Undercliff Drive - new key padlock on barriers

Access for Undercliff Drive residents reduced even further, without notice

Residents still living in the landlocked properties on Undercliff Drive were livid this morning when they discovered that Island Roads had replaced combination padlocks on barriers, denying them access to their properties from the Ventnor end of the landslip.

According to residents, no notice of this change was given by Island Roads and they’ve not been given access to keys that would enable them to enter and leave via the barriers.

Resident: “It’s disgusting”
Owner of Undercliff Caravan Park, Gary Smedmore, got in touch to explain the issue.

He said the residents had always had access to the padlock’s combination to ensure they could escape the area in an emergency. They’ve had this pedestrian access for the last year, so the unannounced change came as a shock.

He told OnTheWight, “It’s disgusting”.

Video
Here’s a short video to try and give you a bit of a better idea of where the locked hoarding is.

Short walk Vs 8.8 mile round trip
One resident who lives in the landlocked area has close friends just a few hundred yards away on the other side of the barriers.

However, without pedestrian access through the closed area (which she’s had for over a year), she now has to walk to her car on the west side of the road closure, then drive via Niton to the Ventnor end of the landslip.

That’s an 8.8 mile round trip.

Cut off from car
Another resident who lives within the landlocked area usually parks her car at the Ventnor end and walks through the closed area to access her property, because she works in Shanklin.

With no explanation, or access, this morning she left her home unable to get to her car parked on the eastern side of the closure.

Working towards and acceptable solution
Cllr Phil Jordan, Executive member for the PFI, told OnTheWight,

“I’ve been having some senior-level discussions with Island Roads today about this after OnTheWight brought it to my attention and those discussions are continuing.

“I’m concerned that residents don’t have access like they once did and am continuing to work towards a solution acceptable to the residents.”

Silence is … not golden
OnTheWight got in touch with the Isle of Wight council press office this morning and Island Roads this afternoon, but both have failed to respond by time of publishing.

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Richard
24, February 2015 5:24 pm

Unbelievable! maybe this is punishment for appearing on the BBC South programme last week!

screaming_outrage
24, February 2015 6:49 pm

Oh how I love our Council!

I am glad we have this group of fast acting and efficient people, who work hard for us, whilst communicating clearly and honestly, etc, etc.

Oh how I love our Council!

Philip Hawkins
24, February 2015 7:21 pm

Forgive me if I’m wrong, but I was led to believe that Island Roads remit ended at the railway sleepers and ‘Road closed’ sign – everything after that was under the control of the council?

So who authorised these new padlocks? Who actually fitted them?

The Sciolist
24, February 2015 7:44 pm

Very impressive quality chain and padlock. Far more impressive than anything the council or Island Roads usually does.

Vindictive idiots?

The Sciolist
24, February 2015 7:46 pm

Mind you, a saw would cut through that wood in minutes. They may not be as clever as they think they are?

block8
24, February 2015 7:49 pm

The three great lies;

1. The cheque is in the post;

2. I`ll respect you in the morning;

3. I`m from the council and I`m here to help you.

Linda Chester
24, February 2015 7:51 pm

So if residents used to have combination in case of emergency… what are they supposed to do now if there is one?

mat
24, February 2015 8:28 pm

Island Roads, puffed with arrogance have engaged in provocative and punitive actions. Why have they done this arbitrary thing? Because they can. Puffed up with their puffed up “property rights” believing that they have “ownership” rights due to the contract they believe that they immovable. They shouldn’t be allowed to get away with it and they should definitely be restricted. The “partnership” in PFI has overstepped its… Read more »

mat
24, February 2015 8:30 pm

Puffed up with their “property rights”, believing that they have “ownership” rights, due to the contract, they now believe that they immovable.

The Sciolist
24, February 2015 8:36 pm

Mat seems to be right. Island Roads, the Luxembourg owned business is but a mere CONTRACTOR to IOW Council. They can be told what to do, they can be told what not to do – but only if someone, anyone at the council has the guts to do so. Come on Councillor’s, where are you, where are you?

milly
24, February 2015 8:52 pm

Annual Customer Survey Island Roads is inviting residents to give their feedback through its annual customer survey as the company ends its second year of a seven year programme of road improvements on the Island. The survey, conducted throughout February, enables residents to rate and comment on the range of services provided by the company such as road surfacing and maintenance, pavement improvements, street lighting, geotechnical schemes,… Read more »

Oldie
24, February 2015 9:02 pm

What are the door made of? (They look like plywood).

dennisthegrockle
24, February 2015 9:33 pm

Just what have these poor residents done to deserve such bad treatment? Surely they are suffering enough. We met a gentleman resident last week who kindly showed us around the slipped area after pointing out walkers climbing round the barriers and a couple of cyclists who got their bikes round the barriers at both ends. It was sad to see the lovely houses and the completely cut… Read more »

Stewart Blackmore
25, February 2015 10:07 am

This new action just boggles the mind and shows how not to treat residents who have surely suffered more than enough.

Question for Phil Jordan and Ian Stephens – what, exactly, is the provision in the Roads PFI contract which addresses the Undercliff?

phil jordan
Reply to  Stewart Blackmore
26, February 2015 8:57 am

stewart blackmore: Why Ian Stephens…..? The question is very wide, stewart. The undercliff was one of 17 geo-technical schemes specifically listed as works to be carried out under the contract. The fact that the land slipped (as it has been moving for a thousand years or more) is not specifically covered within the contract. We do not currently have the funding to consider a suitable (if one… Read more »

Stewart Blackmore
Reply to  phil jordan
26, February 2015 9:06 am

Morning Phil, I mentioned Ian Stephens because he is responsible for resources. Perhaps I should have been more clear. Reg Barry stated in Council last night that the Roads PFI SPECIFICALLY made provisions for the Undercliff to the tune of (as I recall) £13,000,000 and the money was never spent as we all know. Is this true and, if it is, why is the commitment not being… Read more »

phil jordan
Reply to  Stewart Blackmore
26, February 2015 9:21 am

stewart blackmore:

The figure will be closer to £1.3M than £13M…!!

The scheme was listed as things stood at the time. Since then a major landslip has occurred and that is not accounted for anywhere in the contract.
About £800,000 (ish) remains for the project… whatever that may be.

buckle
25, February 2015 1:17 pm

Of course this isn’t the first time that Island Roads and/or the Council have behaved in such a manner. Onthewight previously reported on 09 June 14 when the combination codes were changed without warning all the residents. Whilst public liability considerations may have driven this move, the failure to communicate the changes AGAIN to those affected is simply breathtaking. It clearly demonstrates a complete lack of courtesy… Read more »

phil jordan
Reply to  buckle
26, February 2015 8:58 am

buckle:

I have expressed that sentiment very forcefully…. one way or another I WILL get the correct approach to these matters, I promise you.

Bones
25, February 2015 4:06 pm

No one from the Council willing to comment?

Bones
Reply to  Bones
25, February 2015 4:08 pm

….or no one on the Council knows what the hell is going on ?

Cynic
Reply to  Bones
25, February 2015 4:40 pm

… or gagged by the Confidentiality Clause in the IR contract (para 89 page 387)?

Linda Chester
Reply to  Cynic
25, February 2015 6:36 pm

…be nice to hear from them either way!

Sally Perry
Reply to  Linda Chester
25, February 2015 9:36 pm

Apart from Cllr Jordan, who was happy to speak to us directly, no response from the council or Island Roads still.

phil jordan
Reply to  Linda Chester
26, February 2015 8:41 am

Sally Perry: Thanks Sally. I havn’t replied sooner because I waited until I met with CE yesterday afternoon at 2.30pm and was then in meetings right through until the end of Full Council last night at about 8.30pm. I am getting conflicting information, it seems. The CE told me that nothing had changed whatsoever in terms of access to/for residents and that there was ongoing problems with… Read more »

sam salt
26, February 2015 8:48 am

Can I thank Cllr Jordan for his work on behalf of the Island Community. His commitment is unquestionable. One of the best IW Councillors of my time. Many could learn from him. Ever thought of standing for Parliament Phil?

phil jordan
26, February 2015 9:00 am

Tess:

You’re very kind…… but there’s a better man than me already standing… ;0))

phil jordan
26, February 2015 9:54 am

Tess: I also meant to say, but omitted, my friend and colleague Cllr Steve Stubbings is ever present and involved in my discussions over the Undercliff….as one might expect their local Councillor to be. Indeed, he was at the meeting yesterday with the CE…. I publically thank steve for all of his help over the time period in all sorts of ways in trying to get a… Read more »

sam salt
26, February 2015 9:58 am

Phil, I agree with your sentiments about Steve. He also did a great job as Mayor of Ventnor when there.

buckle
26, February 2015 10:23 am

A £600,000 improvement scheme for a path running between Seaclose Park and Island Harbour, which is for cyclists and walkers, has been funded through the government’s Local Sustainable Transport Fund. By contrast, the A3055 is severed at the two points where Island Roads were working and just £500,000 is allocated to provide a temporary cul de sac and footpath instead of reinstating an important tourist route? Different… Read more »

phil jordan
26, February 2015 10:35 am

buckle:

“never happened in the first place..” !

Do you mean the landslip….?

What evidence have you that it is (technically) possible to re-instate this road without fear that it could move again at any moment….?

Where should we start asking for the £20M plus if the answer to the above is yes…?

buckle
Reply to  phil jordan
26, February 2015 11:08 am

What was Penny Mordaunt’s response to the request for extra funding for the repair of the Undercliff? I believe that extensive geotechnical surveys were available prior to IR’s intervention which hightlighted the issues. I believe that the timing of the works over winter was at best ill-advised, at worst reckless given that the water levels as measured by the monitoring equipment showed amber levels prior to the… Read more »

Bones
Reply to  buckle
26, February 2015 3:21 pm

I don’t think there is any argument that the work done by IR last winter precipitated the landslip……in particular the way it was done. But in spite of many reports supporting this neither IR or the Council have been held responsible.

Bones
Reply to  phil jordan
26, February 2015 3:26 pm

Perhaps a good start would be the contractors.

CB500
26, February 2015 10:49 am

Phil. The majority of Islanders believe that the work by Island Roads caused the damage. Is there definitive evidence to the contrary? If not, why aren’t Island Roads picking up the bill and reinstating the road?

Philip Hawkins
Reply to  CB500
26, February 2015 11:33 am

There is definitive evidence to show that the works were the cause, or at least a major contributory factor.

The lack of site investigation in the area of greatest risk, where the ground anchors were supposed to be installed, was unforgivable.
Then add in all the factors mentioned by Buckle!

Bones
Reply to  Philip Hawkins
26, February 2015 5:00 pm

Come on ! Stand up the padlocks and keys monitor on the council. Tell us all about it.