Cost of Council Chamber Refurbishment Revealed

During last week’s full council meeting, we tweeted about the fact that the council chamber had undergone a refurbishment.

MoneyAs we entered the chamber for the meeting, we were met with the smell of paint and new carpet, resulting in lots of “ooos” and “ahhhs” from the media table.

Gone was the quality bespoke furniture and in had come the cheap-looking office furniture.

VB‘s done some digging to find out the cost of the works.

‘Them and Us’
Instead of the desks positioned in a crescent facing towards the front where the chairman, etc sit, the desks are now facing in towards the centre, creating a clear ‘them and us’ stance.

The Tory majority on one side – Independents, Lib Dem and Labour on the other.

New audio equipment welcomed
It wasn’t just the walls, carpet and furniture that’d had a re-vamp. Gone was the previous audio equipment, used (when it worked) to help project the voices of speakers in the chamber, in came the up-to-date swanky new wireless equipment (and not before time).

Readers of our tweets may remember the start of the full council meeting being delayed due to the councillors being trained on how to use the new system.

From where we were sitting (audio equipment was available on the press table – but without a microphone, we hasten to add) it looked fairly simple to use. As with the old system, just press the big button on the box when you want to speak, if the red light comes on, away you go (perhaps it was more complex than it looked).

Why the change?
Naturally, we got to wondering what the cost of this refurb was.

We can understand the need to update the audio equipment, but we’re living in times of austerity and cuts are being made across the council, so why would they decide to spend what looked like thousands of pounds on replacing perfectly good furniture?

Part of the wide remodelling
The council told us that the work was part of the wider remodelling of County Hall (at a cost of up to £4 million) and that removing the custom furniture and replacing it with desks on wheels would mean the space could become multi-purpose.

This, we’re told, would lead to the council not having to hire out external spaces for large meetings or indeed they could hire out the chamber to others.

A spokesperson told VB, “Had there not been sound financial reasons for undertaking the work then it would not have been done.”

The costs
So we expect you’re all wondering what the cost of this refurb was.

The council told VB that the total cost came to £120,939.

This breaks down to

  • 30 desks and 60 chairs £21,570
  • New Audio Visual equipment £63,709
  • Carpet £4,140
  • Electrical work, stripping out, redecoration and servicing of the heating system £31,519.08

If you attend the next full council meeting (Wednesday 19th October), you’ll get to see the refurb in person.

Image: Kevin Dooley under CC BY 2.0

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Christian Beasley
28, September 2011 10:34 am

A sound investment? I wonder how many times the council has had to pay for hiring external sites of a similar size to the new multi-purpose chamber.
Also has the council any idea of the likely demand by external organisations for the use of the chamber?

Pete
Reply to  Christian Beasley
29, September 2011 7:49 pm

I would like to know how the tendering for the AV installation was dealt with. There are 3 possible Island Companies that could have been asked to quote, including mine. However although we are on the books of the IWC, we were not asked to tender. I am assuming this installation went to a Mainland Company so will be very disappointed if it did, maybe someone knows?… Read more »

Lora Norder
Reply to  Pete
29, September 2011 11:00 pm

Why would they bother Island companies when they had arrangements with mainland firms?

Pete
Reply to  Lora Norder
30, September 2011 7:40 am

Because they should look after Island Jobs and Companies first? They should be obligated to ask Islanders, (the tax payer and electroate), first?

Lora Norder
Reply to  Pete
30, September 2011 9:40 am

I agree, but the senior people who came to work here, from Westminster Council seemed to naturally favour companies they had dealings with up there?

Victor Meldrew
28, September 2011 10:41 am

……..and it’s not wheelchair accesible and is probably in breach of DDA so useless to hire out plus what happens if a wheelchair user is elected to serve?

Victoria Meldrew
Reply to  Victor Meldrew
28, September 2011 11:56 am

Victor are we related lol . The IWC has an appalling track records as far as disabled access goes. The Social Services building in Cowes has steps, if you are in a wheelchair and require a blue badge someone has to go in to the building for you or they come out to the car park ! Very dignified. Then we have the IWC owned Record Office… Read more »

Stephen Hawkings
Reply to  Victoria Meldrew
29, September 2011 7:30 am

err.. are not these the buildings that have been identified for disposal?

Stephen Hawkings
Reply to  Victor Meldrew
28, September 2011 6:47 pm

Oh yes it is!, many of us wheelchair users have been in the Council Chamber, as have the many disabled staff, over the years.

And if you ever elected a chair-bound councillor would they be able to visit you in your home?

Victor Meldrew
Reply to  Stephen Hawkings
28, September 2011 9:34 pm

Yes

Barney McGrew
Reply to  Stephen Hawkings
28, September 2011 9:39 pm

Amazed – public Gallery as well? When an award winner was attending a resentation in Committee Room 2 it took 2 lifts and a trip through the car park – not really what I call accesible.

But then this bunch of disingenuous twisters will do anything to suit their ends not excluding riding rough shod over any regulations.

concerned of iw
Reply to  Barney McGrew
29, September 2011 6:55 am

Must have got lost then, Committee Room 2 is on Floor 4 along the corridor from the lift that is accessible from the main entrance of County Hall.

Stephen Hawkings
Reply to  Barney McGrew
29, September 2011 7:15 am

You could sit at he back of the public gallery but that would not be necessary as any disabled customer would be let into the Council Chamber.

I am certainly no champion of the Council but please don’t bang on about no access for the disabled especially as many have worked in County Hall for years some with electric wheelchairs so therefore travelling around the corridors alone.

playingthenumbers
28, September 2011 12:59 pm

How much for whitewash?

daveq
Reply to  playingthenumbers
28, September 2011 7:49 pm

50pence per 500 litres!

Stewart Blackmore
28, September 2011 2:14 pm

I was at that meeting and the sound system was unreliable in the public gallery as the speakers kept failing, as John Wortham wasted no time in telling the Chairman!

L Pinkerton
28, September 2011 2:26 pm

I wonder if the new PA system still records 24/7?

Pete
Reply to  L Pinkerton
29, September 2011 10:01 am

The old one didn’t so why would the new one? Our company has worked on the old one, and we saw no recording equipment.

L Pinkerton
Reply to  Pete
29, September 2011 2:14 pm

The old one did. There was a spur to a cabinet in the lobby. Staff were warned not to be outspoken in meetings held in the Council Chamber.

spy-kid
Reply to  L Pinkerton
29, September 2011 4:51 pm

The recording of meetings is still done the way it has always been; a portable recorder placed on a desk with 2 mics. It is removed at the end of the meeting.

The old old PA system never had a recording function and neither does the new one.

Pete
Reply to  spy-kid
29, September 2011 7:39 pm

Agreed Spy Kid, thats exactly how its done, a portable digital recorder. As far as I remember the only cabinet is the equipment is in a Large Glass fronted 19″ Rack in the entrance area,(typical of this type of install), and that is where we worked a couple of years ago, but I do not recall any recorder, would have been easy to see.

Sandown Sally
28, September 2011 2:41 pm

OMG! How much? You could get a new building for that sum. These people are fools using our money.

john
Reply to  Sandown Sally
28, September 2011 9:07 pm

Clearly, some people have no idea how much things really cost. ‘You could get a new building for this money’. Sadly, other people agree! Please come into the real world.

Wink wink
Reply to  Sandown Sally
28, September 2011 10:20 pm

…or 120,000 Winter Gardens!!

Meursault
28, September 2011 4:56 pm

When you are facing hard times usually you would focus on keeping a roof over your head and food on the table – everything else can wait until the outlook is a little more favourable. The last on the list is the house makeover or new car – you get buy with what you have. So electorate what would you prefer? a. 4x frontline staff or one… Read more »

Wight Knight
Reply to  Meursault
30, September 2011 11:44 pm

Its really quite simple.
a) is funded primarily locally by you taxpayers
b) is funded by Central Government.

At present a) funding is being reduced by pressure from Central Government. b) funding is not being reduced.

Simples!

mick
28, September 2011 7:11 pm

just remember we all lose services so they can have all these luxuries,

Lump-in-the-carpet
28, September 2011 7:12 pm

This may be the best evidence yet that the people running our council are truly incompetent. Ask yourself, who on earth would spend the price of a small house on new chairs, desks and a sound system, at a time of savage cuts? Given that not one of them said ‘hold on, is this a good idea, how will it look?’ tells us all we need to… Read more »

mick
Reply to  Lump-in-the-carpet
28, September 2011 8:51 pm

our councelors have not got one good idea between them.

Wight Knight
Reply to  Lump-in-the-carpet
30, September 2011 11:46 pm

Simple – this is funded from a different pot of money. Don’t criticise what you don’t fully understand

Debby Robinson
28, September 2011 7:59 pm

I’ve attended meetings at the IOW Council chamber for some years and, (being professionally picky & observant about my surroundings), I have observed that the ONLY thing which needed replacing was the original single-glazed, metal-framed, windows. In midwinter (excuse caps) THE CURTAINS WERE NEVER PULLED TO KEEP HEAT IN. Other, smaller, meeting rooms that I have attended were always kept at ‘old peoples home’ sweatbox temperatures with… Read more »

Solar panel user
Reply to  Debby Robinson
14, October 2011 8:30 pm

Debby, did you find out what happened to the old oak furnishings? I noticed Charlotte Hofton picks up on the cost of the chamber refurb in the CP today, arguing that Ikea desks and chairs would have been a lot cheaper, and looked much the same, but she doesn’t say anything about the old fittings. I’ve been wondering what happened to them, too.

witchfinder general
Reply to  Solar panel user
14, October 2011 9:18 pm

I think the old stuff was from the original town Hall at Newtown so was only on loan. Might be wrong but that was the story a few years ago.

Another lump-in-the-carpet
28, September 2011 10:14 pm

Most of it goes to their furniture dump at Somerton, Cowes.

Wight Essence
29, September 2011 12:24 am

“Removing the custom furniture and replacing it with desks on wheels would mean the space could become multi-purpose”. What a pathetic and lame excuse this really is. This arrogant Council seem to be taking Island people for a lot of fools by trying to make out spending council tax payers money on new furniture etc is good value. I find it difficult to believe we are being… Read more »

Mr Justice
Reply to  Wight Essence
29, September 2011 6:49 pm

Should’ve gone to Hursts. I bet they sell castors for a couple of quid per item. Hey presto, portable furniture, simples.

Superman
29, September 2011 12:58 pm

OK, so the PA system probably needed replacing, but everything else? do they not think that there are other spaces that can be hired out for conferences? I think that this is bordering on the criminal in respect of wasting taxpayers money when people are losing their jobs, toilets are closed and tourists are losing faith in the island. I would like to know who authorised this… Read more »

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