Couthy Butts: Planning Now Says It’s OK But Only For Use Half The Year

Consideration of planning permission to retain, restore and inhabit the last two remaining Georgian worker’s cottages on the Island returns to the Isle of Wight council Planning Committee next Tuesday (22nd).

(read the background)

Couthy ButtsRegular readers will remember VB covered the story of the refusal of the Couthy Butts application extensively last year with videos, podcasts and photo galleries, bringing attention to what could have ended up as wanton destruction of a historic building.

The IW council has thankfully shifted considerably since then. They now agree that the building is of historic value and that it fits within the Area of Outstanding Natual Beauty (AONB).

Initially it was encouraging to see the application back on the Planning Committee agenda, but it’s feared that if the Planning Committee agree to the condition of part-time habitation, owners Brian and Sabrie Harvey may be unable to go ahead with the restoration, leading to the building being lost.

The part-habitation condition
The IW council planning department – the Local Planning Authority (LPA) – are now stating that the shepherds only need to be close to the sheep during lambing season (Jan-May) and have added a condition to the permission as follows.

The occupation of the seasonal unit of shepherd’s accommodation shall be limited to the identified lambing period of 01 January to 31 May of any calendar year and to a person solely or mainly working in connection with the management of the holding. During the non-occupancy periods, the building shall not be used for any purpose other than for the storage of items associated with the agricultural holding.

Having the LPA move from a (we paraphrase) ‘this has to be demolished’ stance to ‘we realise these are historical buildings worth saving’ is extremely encouraging, but if the Harveys are to spend a fortune sympathetically restoring the buildings and making them habitable (for some of the coldest months in the year) then surely they should allowed to have them inhabited throughout the year.

When VB spoke to Brian Harvey this afternoon he said, “The restriction isn’t ideal. It would mean we could only have a part time worker. We’ve got 700 sheep and are sick of working 7 days a week, so want to employ someone full time.”

A reasonable compromise
Surely the compromise should be that the cottages can only be used by workers from the farm? This avoids the situation of the property being rented out as holiday accommodation, which would no doubt raise objection.

Suggesting this to Brain, he said, “We’ve happy for it to have an agricultural tie, so it can only be used for farming purposes.”

Many who know the extensive background to this building feel that the habitation condition attached to the permission is unreasonable and hope the members of the Planning Committee agree – passing the permission without that condition.

We hope to be reporting live from the meeting so check back Tuesday afternoon and you can also read the report in full over on the iwight (PDF) Website.

Brief background
The intended use of the cottages, when complete, would be living accommodation for the shepherds working on the farm, allowing them to be close to the stock throughout the year.

Initial work on making the cottages safe came about back in 2000, when the Harveys were informed by the Health and Safety Executive that they needed to make safe the dilapidated buildings which date back over 200 years.

Local farmers, Brian and Sabrie put a great deal of time and effort into making the buildings safe, so it made sense for them to consider further restoration in order that the cottages could be used as living accommodation for their shepherds.

The application was refused by the LPA – despite no-one from the department actually ever visiting the site – and the Harveys were ordered to demolish the cottages.

The Harveys received a huge amount of support from Islanders keen to see the cottages retained and restored, and carried on with their fight against demolition.

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Bystander
25, September 2013 6:22 pm

Perhaps Beynon could do a bit of bricklaying, doubt if he’s qualified but that wouldn’t necessarily be seen as a disadvantage by the Council.

Stephen
25, September 2013 7:34 pm

And the cost of any outstanding ‘snagging’ etc [defect remedying] not fulfilled by the original contractor?

tiki
25, September 2013 8:18 pm

Bob the Builder

JohnR
25, September 2013 8:39 pm

I do not know how true it is but rumour has it that Pihl have already been paid for the demolition / landscaping etc of the old building.

If this is correct presumably the council, sorry, ‘we’ will have to pay again.

jonno45
25, September 2013 10:16 pm

Stuart Love rolls out yet another management speak phrase “mission critical”!!! Sounds like we are heading for Space! Has anyone managed to check out Stuart’s CV and his momentous rise from office boy at Westminster City Council to deputy Chief Exec here! Yet another Duckworth and Beynon… [part of comment removed by moderator]

Jake_Gully
Reply to  jonno45
26, September 2013 9:45 am

Perhaps with Pihl now out of the picture, the IW Council can come clean and not hide behind the convenience of commercial sensitivities. It’s time we were told: 1. Where the original budget of £ 32m stands and how much remains uncommitted and available to complete the project. 2. What is the projected budget for the completion of remaining deficiences within the new building and the demolition/re-instatement… Read more »

mat
Reply to  Jake_Gully
26, September 2013 11:33 am

Its about time, with the budget being considered, that the process of removing these two Tory execs. was looked at. In my view they are still interfering too much, with old projects in particular carried forward, and the council needs to look at officers’ salaries. I would think that any of the departments could elect a decent overall manager on a reasonable salary. Or, one of our… Read more »

Billy Builder
26, September 2013 10:49 am

I don’t think that some officers in the Council would particularly welcome an inquiry into this matter, as any inquiry would find that the building should have, could have and would have been delivered back in November/December last year if they had not interfered in things they did not understand. If the building had have been delivered in November/December last year, then Pihl would have completed the… Read more »

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