Gas pipeline being installed across countryside and through woodland
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Exxon CO2 Pipeline: Shock as 31 simple questions asked – 18 answered ‘Don’t know’ (updated)

Just over a couple of weeks ago, the team behind the Exxon Solent CO2 Pipeline Project held their first in a series of public meetings on the Isle of Wight.

One OnTheWight reader who attended said they were shocked that out of 31 legitimate questions put to the project team, 18 were answered with ‘don’t know’.

Cutting across the Island
Exxon are seeking permission to install an underground pipeline to transport CO2 for a carbon capture programme, and the Isle of Wight features in two of the three possible routes that are being considered.

As shown below, both of these routes would cut through the Island, one going from North to West and the other from North to South, affecting homes, road infrastructure, farmland, biodiversity and more.

Why so many “Don’t knows”?
The purpose of the public meetings is billed by them as providing information for residents about the plans. Thomas Cowley, as a representative of Shalfleet Parish Council and Yarmouth Town Council and as a member of the National Landscape Steering Committee, attended the first public meeting and shares his report below of the questions raised and the answers given by the project team.

Many will be concerned to see that out of 31 questions, more than half (18) were answered with ‘don’t know’.

Offer to challenge any of the report
OnTheWight approached the Solent CO2 Pipeline Project team and asked whether they challenged any of the Q&A report from Thomas Cowley.

They initially responded, but didn’t answer our questions. We chased again on Monday this week, but still, as of the point of publishing (Friday 23 Aug 2024), there’s been no response.

Below is Thomas’s Q&A report, which, as a reminder, the Solent CO2 Pipeline Project team have not challenged.

What’s the cost of the pipeline?
Don’t know

Who’s paying for it?
Exxon are paying for it

Why did the project get turned down for government funding previously?
They were one of the last projects to arrive at the funding round

Do you expect to get government funding this time?
Don’t know, because they don’t know the approach of this government

There are many other sites your presentation highlights, in the North Sea.  Why this project, here?
There are allegedly other projects that are progressing in the North Sea.  This is the only suitable site in the South of England area

What’s the estimated timescale from now to commencement of works on the pipeline, to completion of the pipeline project and then how long to commission it in to work?
5-7 years of planning
2032-35 for completion of the pipeline and immediate commissioning

How many other CO2 pipelines like this are there in the UK and across the globe?
Don’t know

What issues have occurred with these other pipelines?
Don’t know

How is the CO2 injected on-site?
Using ‘standard and well-proven techniques’ for injection of gas into oil wells

What equipment is needed on-site at the point of injection?
There is no rig, all equipment is sub-sea

How many tonnes of CO2 will it be capturing per year?
5 million cars per year.  He said they know the actual tonnes, but that’s commercially sensitive

What’s the total capacity of the site for carbon capture?
Don’t know until the well is drilled

How many years is it expected to be in operation?
Don’t know until the well is drilled

What are the geological conditions needed to capture the carbon on this site?
Don’t know, apparently the government is the body that has defined the site as suitable.

How long do you expect the CO2 to be held in the ground?
Indefinitely

What stops it leaking out?
“It stays in the ground” (don’t know)

How many other sites are there, globally where this process is in use?
Don’t know

How many of them are successful?
Don’t know

How long have they successfully captured CO2 so far?
Also, don’t know

How many sites have not been successful in capturing CO2?
Don’t know

How have they failed?
Don’t know

What is the probability of failure of the storage site?
Don’t know

Where is the CO2 being generated?
Fawley and the surrounding complex, although some might be shipped in from further afield

If not at Fawley, how and why is it being transported to Fawley?
Don’t know

If at Fawley, who owns the process that is generating the CO2?
Exxon

What are the processes that generate the CO2?
Generation of hydrogen fuel (not ‘green’ hydrogen)

How are you expecting those processes to grow, or shrink in volume and over what time period?
Don’t know

What work are you doing to develop new processes to create replacement projects that generate less CO2?
Generation of hydrogen fuel and synthetic aviation fuel were the only examples given

How much is being invested to develop those alternative processes?
Don’t know

Why isn’t it being proposed to tanker it to the injection site?
Don’t know – at first he thought I was suggesting they might road tanker it across the Island

What are the cost comparisons for tankering to the site vs this project, for the life of the injection site?
Don’t know, because didn’t think tankering (by boat) had been considered as an alternative to digging up a National Park and AONB.

Contradiction?
Thomas Cowley also added that the responses at the meeting directly contradicts, what the company’s lead told openDemocracy, specifically,

“The company’s UK lead, Paul Greenwood, told openDemocracy a carbon capture project at its Fawley oil refinery in Hampshire would only meet its target to be operational by 2030 if it receives taxpayer subsidies.”

UPDATE: Delayed response from project team
After 15 days of silence, and following publication of the above article, a spokesperson for the Solent CO2 Pipeline project finally replied to our requests.

Despite being given several opportunities to challenge the Q&A report, he now stated that,

“Having spoken to the team, I’m not sure this is an accurate portrayal of the conversation and some of the questions asked are outside the scope of the consultation for the pipeline.”

They also gave a stock quote from Michael Foley, UK Low Carbon Solutions Executive at ExxonMobil, one that had already been provided to other media earlier in the week, which said,

“We are here to listen and to understand views on how the proposed consultation corridors would perform, and encourage everyone to take part.

“CCS is proven technology, which the UK Climate Change Committee, and the UK Government, consider key to achieving a significant reduction in industrial CO2 emissions – the industries that produce essential products that we rely on every day. 

“Our proposed pipeline will be able to transport millions of tonnes per year of captured CO2, with a capacity equivalent to removing over five million cars off the road each year.

“It’s easy to take part in the consultation at www.solentco2pipeline.co.uk.”

Article edit
5.40pm 23rd Aug 2024 – Comment from project team added


Image: Gas pipeline being installed by NPCA Online under CC BY 2.0 – for illustrative purposes only

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Benny C
23, August 2024 7:28 pm

A few don’t knows are shocking but many are pretty irrelevant so I’m bypassing the headline. The real messages here concern expectation of govt support ( ie this is pretty much a done deal surrounded by window dressing (ie ‘alternative routes’ which look frankly insulting). Moreover, there can be virtually no doubt that IOWC must have known for some time). So first let’s hear from them –… Read more »

ThomasC
Reply to  Benny C
24, August 2024 11:13 am

There is huge doubt that IWC had any visibility of this project prior to the consultation being announced. They’re not the authority who will be engaged for the development consent order. Exxon would only disadvantage itself by giving them an early heads up and allowing them more time to assemble a case against the project. Also, there is zero incentive for anyone in IWC to have concealed… Read more »

Benny C
Reply to  ThomasC
24, August 2024 12:31 pm

Fair points but why are they silent?

neilpalmer400
23, August 2024 7:35 pm

I love the “a capacity equivalent to removing over five million cars off the road each year” statement. 5 million cars driven 5 miles per day? 50 miles? 100 miles?
5 million brand new cars with modern exhaust systems? 5 years old? 10 years old?
You could make that whatever you want.

VentnorLad
Reply to  neilpalmer400
23, August 2024 7:40 pm

Figures from the RAC suggest that there are 33.7 million cars in the UK.

Wouldn’t a more worthwhile endeavour be to actually rather than figuratively remove 5 million from that number?

Benny C
Reply to  neilpalmer400
24, August 2024 12:51 pm

It’ll be robust and based on verified averages. They’re not so dumb as to put out an easily challenged stat. It’s badly presented, I accept.

karen
23, August 2024 8:37 pm

Aside from all the don’t knows (oh dear Exxon, did somebody have the temerity to ask specific questions?), two things pertinent jump out. 1. ‘…the government has defined the site as suitable’….Given that these plans are well under way, I guess that would be the ex Tory government then. 2.’… a carbon capture project at its Fawley oil refinery in Hampshire would only meet its target to be… Read more »

Benny C
Reply to  karen
23, August 2024 10:12 pm

Eh? It’s a plan. Unless the labour administration call a halt it’s a govt initiative, not a political one. They won’t. So it’s not unsafe to suggest either party would have started it. plus Fawley has a lifespan and an economic input to balance against this. Jobs, tax, cost of alternatives, plant maintenance contracts. It’s not a simple equation and sure a lot of maths has been… Read more »

wightwalker
24, August 2024 8:57 am

It would seem to me that the only way to oppose this National Infrastructure Project would be to take out injunctions against Exxon and The Secretary of State at the time of approval, in effect the Government, in the same way oil companies target environmental protestors. This would have to take into account lost tourism revenue as well as damages to image of the Island, Biosphere project… Read more »

Benny C
Reply to  wightwalker
24, August 2024 12:48 pm

Smart advice.

ThomasC
24, August 2024 11:08 am

Denying people the ability to record discussions with Exxon subcontractors and a couple of actual employees is designed to allow Exxon to claim any comments don’t represent the actual discussion. The notes in the article were taken standing in the hall, in discussion with ‘Tim S’ who is claimed to be the Exxon Development Consent Lead. The notes are an accurate representation, but don’t reflect the narrow… Read more »

Benny C
Reply to  ThomasC
24, August 2024 12:46 pm

Absolutely right. Minimising the inconvenience and cost of annoying expectations to show that ‘ onsultstion’ has taken place must be irritating for the Exxon. Issues who are so aware this is not palatable that they won’t say who they are or where they live. That tells a story in itself. I would not be surprised if the Council find themselves with an angry gang of voters on… Read more »

Benny C
Reply to  Benny C
24, August 2024 12:46 pm

Execs, not issues

johnr
25, August 2024 5:27 pm

So are they going to drill the well before laying any pipes? as it may well be that there is very limited capacity and therefore a very limited lifespan, so may not be worthwhile doing. If you lay the pipes first then that is a massive expense before finding the drill site may be not suitable. I went to one of the consultations and likewise couldn’t get… Read more »

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