Independent Councillors call for ‘State of the Island’ Debate (updated)

Following last night’s Full Council meeting (read the updates and comments on our Facebook Page), this in from three Independent councillors, in their own words. Ed

Map of the IslandIndependent Councillors have invoked Procedure Rule 15 of the Isle of Wight Council’s Constitution and have written to the Chairman of the Isle of Wight Council to demand a State of the Island Debate.

Councillor Ian Stephens, the Independent Group Coordinator said: ” In light of the recent judicial review and the implication that this has for the Isle of Wight Council, we feel that it is necessary to call members of the Cabinet, the Leader and Senior Officers to account.”

Making those responsible accountable
“A State of the Island Debate will enable us to question these individuals and come to some conclusions as to why we are in the mess we are in and what can be done going forward.

“Independent Councillors intend to put forward a robust Budget proposal in February and we see this as a possible source of information that will help us to better understand the challenges we face as an Island and also to investigate the way in which the Conservative led administration have brought us to this place.

“The way in which this administration has implemented cuts and more importantly the impact of those cuts on residents has been lamentable. For many of us the recent Judicial Review on Adult Social Care eligibility criteria that has shown
the consultation process to have been unlawful was the final straw and we need an opportunity to discuss all aspects of this administration’s policies”

Outcome made public and considered by Cabinet
Procedure Rule 15 states that the outcome of the debate will be:

(a) disseminated as widely as possible within the community and to agencies and organisations in the area; and
(b) considered by the Cabinet in proposing the budget and policy framework to the Council for the coming year.

Additional clarification
Update 18.11.11: Ian Stephens has provided this additional clarification, “Further to the request made by myself for a State of the Island Debate to Councillor David Williams I would like to emphasise the projected outcomes as stated in the Constitution of the Isle of Wight Council are as follows:

Procedure Rule 15 states that the outcome of the debate will be:
(a) disseminated as widely as possible within the community and to agencies and organisations in the area.

(b) considered by the Cabinet in proposing the budget and policy framework to the Council for the coming year.

“The request has been put forward and I await the response from the Isle of Wight Council Chairman.

“However, if granted this will be the first time this has been utilised and the framework and potential attendees will be subject for discussion.

“I feel that the debate could utilise the findings of the Isle of Wight Joint Strategic Needs Assessment (JSNA) 2011. This is a joint assessment from Police, Health and the Isle of Wight Council. This document, as has been previously reported, is also a first for the Isle of Wight and the Debate could provide the ideal forum to utilise the information collated”

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Caconym
5, December 2017 8:29 am

So “project fear” turns out to be “project reality”.

Who’d have thought?

Billy Builder
5, December 2017 8:44 am

Successful is a bit like beauty, it is in the eye of the beholder. For some, the hard BRexiteers, then any divorce from the EU no matter how catastrophic for our economy or how damaging to the integrity of the UK would be regarded as a success. For me, the words success and BRexit can never and will never belong in the same sentence. No matter how… Read more »

steephilljack
5, December 2017 1:19 pm

Vix is absolutely right. The Conservatives are now dependent on the DUP for support in the Commons. How can we allow the lack of Conservative majority to bring Brexit decision-making to this reactionary party from Northern Ireland ? If NI gets a special deal then Scotland wants one too. It may soon be time to take to the streets !

Caconym
Reply to  steephilljack
5, December 2017 2:11 pm

Shocking, isn’t it? May calls a General Election expecting a landslide victory but, instead, ends up losing her majority and having to find the Magical Mythical Money Tree to buy support from the DUP. The DUP who now, having taken the money, are holding the whole of the UK and Ireland to ransom. 10 people, with terrorist supporters and evolution deniers amongst their number, holding 70 million… Read more »

greenhey
5, December 2017 1:30 pm

I live both on the Island and on the mainland. It was apparent to me during the referendum that people on the Island did not realise what help the EU has given over the years. For example, Ventnor Haven and a number of other projects in South Wight. Much of the comment on here shows frustration of how the UK government overlooks Island needs. Yet the Island… Read more »

ianc
5, December 2017 2:24 pm

It is a mess. I understand the DUP’s position. I do not want the United Kingdom allied in any way with the ROI unless southern Ireland decided it is in their best interests to join the UK and come under our sovereignty. Walk away now Mrs May and set our own trade deals on WTO terms. The EU is a bully. Do you really want to us… Read more »

Caconym
Reply to  ianc
5, December 2017 3:03 pm

Because the UK government repeatedly shows it can be trusted more than the EU, doesn’t it?

Billy Builder
Reply to  ianc
5, December 2017 4:18 pm

To my mind it is the BRexiteers that are the bullies, as they are trying to railroad through massive constitutional changes that were never on the referendum ballot, based on the results of a totally discredited campaign by Leave.

Caconym
Reply to  Billy Builder
5, December 2017 4:44 pm

The referendum question was purely whether we should leave the EU, or not. Nothing more, nothing less.

The leave campaign actively promoted the idea that the UK could remain in the Customs Union or Single Market post Brexit. The whole “No deal is better than a bad deal” and “leave means leave” thing came *after* the referendum, largely engineered by Theresa May for her own political advantage.

Caconym
Reply to  ianc
6, December 2017 10:03 am

Speaking of whether the EU or the UK Government has the best interests of UK citizens at heart…..

https://www.theregister.co.uk/AMP/2017/12/05/liberty_ipa/

Scary, isn’t it? Post Brexit the UK Gov will be able to do that sort of thing as much as it likes.

Jake_Gully
5, December 2017 4:59 pm

I can’t see much prospect of our current government surviving through to next spring, let alone April 2019 to see the BRexit process through to completion. The conservative party is deeply split on the issue and struggling to maintain balance and direction. Theresa May has little authority, Damian Green’s position looks increasingly untenable and the Confidence and Supply agreement with the DUP hangs in the balance. Morgan… Read more »

ianc
5, December 2017 5:11 pm

Do you not think Labour is split on the EU too? Who knows what Corbyn’s view is from one day to the next. Labour heartlands voted out. Only one part of England voted to stay and that is London, hardly representative of England or Great Britain for that matter. Even the south-west voted leave despite territories like Gibraltar included in their votes keen on staying in. Why… Read more »

Caconym
Reply to  ianc
6, December 2017 10:00 am

Do you think Farage and UKIP *wouldn’t* be calling for a second referendum if they had lost?

Mark L Francis
6, December 2017 12:34 am

The DUP campaigned for a hard Brexit but their constituents voted Remain. Now they don’t want the inevitable consequences of a hard Brexit – & apparently they were the only people in Northern Ireland not to see it. These people are unbelievably stupid even for bonkers right-wing religious nut jobs. Who would have thought Brexit would have been so complicated? Who knew? (Actually I did – on… Read more »

Billy Builder
Reply to  Mark L Francis
6, December 2017 8:40 am

It isn’t just the DUP who want a hard BRexit, both the Tory hard-right and Labour hard-left have also campaigned for a hard BRexit. Both the Tory and Labour parties under May and Corbyn imposed a 3 line whip to ensure a hard BRexit direction was followed.

What we need is for the moderate centre to unite to overturn this folly.

Caconym
Reply to  Billy Builder
6, December 2017 8:58 am

No, but it is the 10 DUP MP’s who are putting a spanner in the works. 10 people, who don’t even have the support of their own constituents in this, holding the whole of the UK and Ireland to ransom.

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