Le Veness: Still Time to Comment on Appeal

We’ve reported many times on the saga of the Le (La) Veness development on Ventnor seafront.

Le Veness: Still Time to Comment on AppealThe last news we had was that the estate of the late owner of the site had appealed to the Planning Inspectorate against a decision by the Local Planning Authority (LPA) declaring expiration of the consent.

At the time we didn’t know whether the Isle of Wight council (IWC) would fight the appeal.

The LPA have now confirmed to VB that they do intend to contest the appeal lodged with the Planning Inspectorate and members of the public have until 23rd June (next Wednesday) to submit their comments to the Planning Inspectorate.

Background
Back in 2004, planning permission was granted back for a six-storey building on the sit which has been derelict for many years.

This was before the conservation area was instigated and against much public objection.

Last year, just weeks before the permission lapsed, work started on the site.

However, work was not supposed to start until a satisfactory geo-technical method statement (condition 2 of the planning consent) had been signed off by the LPA.

Survey submitted one day before consent lapsed
Despite having the planning permission for nearly five years, the developer only presented their geo-technical survey one day before the consent lapsed.

In what some might consider to be an arrogant move, the developer expected the LPA to consider the survey immediately (something that usually takes between 8-13 weeks).

Obviously this didn’t happen straight away, but after consulting engineers, building control, planners and their legal department, the LPA (on 16 October 2009) decided that the geo-technical statement was inadequate, didn’t meet the requirements of condition 2 of the planning permission and therefore the planning consent had lapsed.

The developer contests this and has take it to appeal.

Public Inquiry
We understand that there is an inquiry taking place at County Hall from 10am on 4th August, which is expected to take two days.

We hope to cover the discussions and outcome, so make sure you keep an eye on VB if you want updates.

If you want to learn more about the complexities of the case, there’s a great posting on the VB discussion forum by the Campaign for Protection of Rural England.

Image: freddyfromutah under CC BY 2.0

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CPRE-IW
19, June 2010 5:23 pm

There is a new twist to this saga, just advertised yesterday (18 June 2010), with consultation period to run until 9 July. In a breathtaking and cynical abuse of due process, the Agent Cumberland Ellis has just put in a new application to the IW Council for a Lawful Development Certificate in which they want the Local Planning Authority to declare that whatever was done on site… Read more »

holidaymaker
19, June 2010 7:52 pm

losing planning consent should mean just that
They also put a compulsory purchase order on this land and this should be a lesson to other wreckless developers trying to get their own way at the cost of the appearance of the town

CPRE-IW
20, June 2010 12:52 pm

I like your sentiments, HM, but it isn’t as easy as that. It needs a cool head and emotion-free arguments if the community is to win against the carpet-baggers. For a start, the cash-strapped IW Council is more interested at the moment in disposing of liabilities and flogging off assets than in buying in new ones. Then Compulsory Purchase Orders are serious matters that have to have… Read more »

designstein
Reply to  CPRE-IW
21, June 2010 7:03 pm

I just love the immoderate language relating to the potential developers of Le Veness. Someone has purchased a derelict eyesore on Ventor’s esplanade and they are instantly branded “carpet-baggers” because they want to get a modest return on their investment. Older folk should be very relieved to know that their pensions are being funded in part by such investors. If the CPRE are so keen to criticise… Read more »

CPRE-IW
Reply to  designstein
21, June 2010 10:31 pm

designstein: I think you misunderstand the nature of this forthcoming Public Inquiry. It has nothing whatever to do with the design of the building – it concerns the questions of whether the geotechnical method statement was sufficient to fulfil the requirements placed on it by the Local Planning Authority, whether it was filed in time, whether the LPA took too long to reject it, and whether the… Read more »

CPRE-IW
Reply to  designstein
22, June 2010 1:05 am

P.S. “Carpet-baggers” was no immoderate term. It didn’t refer to “investors seeking a modest return”. It refers to Executors of a Deceased Estate looking to maximise their windfall profits.

designstein
22, June 2010 8:33 am

CPRE-IW, If you find it necessary to use such extreme language about the architecture and highly personal attacks on the Executors of the Estate then you are diluting your argument. In spite of your totally unsubstantiated assertion that the Executors are “looking to maximise their profits”, well sorry but they are not a charity and Ventnor has done absolutely nothing to earn special consideration. After all, the… Read more »

No.5
Reply to  designstein
22, June 2010 9:39 am

You seem to beleive that holiday flats are only built to fill existing voids in locations of no interest to anybody else…clearly this is wrong Holiday lets drive out local populations and destroy communities…you only have to look around this Island to see the destruction they cause. Now I know they provide a small income locally, but there should be a limit of (say ) 10% of… Read more »

Michael G
Reply to  designstein
22, June 2010 9:51 am

Your comments are making you sound more and more like you have a personal involvement in the development. Given your comments on the architecture, an architect perhaps?

designstein
22, June 2010 5:21 pm

No, Michael G., I am not an architect and I have no personal involvement with the Le Veness proposal. But I do support the architectural style and I don’t agree with CPRE-IW that it looks like an ocean-liner crashed into the esplanade (although it would be next to the sea, so not that inappropriate!)I think Ventnor needs to move on: it cannot justify more pseudo-victorian buildings and… Read more »

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