“Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics”: SNT Press Release

Press Release from Standards Not Tiers. Ed

Standards Not Tiers have reacted with disbelief at the School Organisation Cabinet Paper to be presented to the Cabinet of the Isle of Wight Council on the 24th November 2008 by Keith Woods, Director for Children and Young People.

Chairman of SNT Chris Welsford said: “There are so many things that we believe are either misleading or untrue that it is hard to know where to begin. I have spent much of the weekend and today discussing the paper and its many appendices with our members and supporters.

“Everyone is stunned by the arrogance of the Council.

“It is as if they want this to go to court.

“The only concessions that they appear to make are to Yarmouth and St Helen’s, both of whom are financially strong and legally well prepared and equipped. The weak are offered nothing meaningful.”

SNT believe that the so called independent panel is a meaningless ploy designed to drag out the process and make a referral to either the Local Government Ombudsman or the High Court in the case of Yarmouth and St Helen’s virtually impossible, until a final decision is made in February next year.

Two examples of misleading information in the paper are the claim that “”¦all meetings reminded respondents that they could still make representation in respect of the policy move from a primary, middle and high system to that of a primary and secondary system”¦” and “Appropriate recordings and/or notes were taken of the process and audience comments”.

Chris Welsford said “In both cases we have evidence to the contrary. This calls into considerable doubt the efficacy of the process and opens the Authority up to serious challenge. Their paper is littered with statements that we know to be incorrect.”

SNT are now working on a full response to the paper that will be forwarded to the Council before their cabinet meeting. The SNT Executive is meeting on Wednesday to discuss their response and a further statement will be made later in the week.

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Mr Magoo
19, November 2012 7:15 pm

Good point, Don. As Abraham Lincoln said so succinctly: “You can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.”

random bloke
19, November 2012 7:37 pm

are you certain the taxpayer has paid for all those properties? what are the figures? what has Turner actually claimed in expenses for those properties mortgages?

Theres absolutely no reason he shouldnt make a profit if he has paid for the properties from his salary. However, if he has paid for the properties from expenses, he should sell the properties and repay the lot.

steephilljack
19, November 2012 7:54 pm

When people work and earn a salary they may be able to get a mortgage and buy somewhere to live. If they stay in work, have kids and keep working hard, they may be able to retire without a mortgage to pay off. Andrew Turner gets a good salary, and I would allow him a home on the Island plus somewhere near Westminster which he can claim… Read more »

Don Smith
19, November 2012 10:39 pm

Andrew has always informed us that everything he does is ‘Within the Rules’. Their rules, they are all in it together. Those who allow and interpret the rules and those who use these rules to their full potential, bordering on fraud. Four homes and milking the tax payer is morally wrong, whether it is within the rules are not. Time for change before MPs and Peers own… Read more »

watchdog
20, November 2012 4:50 pm

I’ve never voted Conservative, but you have to be fair when making comments. First of all, an MP’s salary is rather modest for what they have to do. There are several civil servants in County Hall and Seaclose whose salaries far exceed that of Andrew Turner – his basic salary is about a third of what we pay Steve Beynon. Secondly, steephilljack’s comment that “his income from… Read more »

steephilljack
Reply to  watchdog
20, November 2012 6:03 pm

Watchdog, if you read County Press 16/11/12 p.7 you will see that our MP rents out properties that he owns in Cowes and in Kennington. He claims expenses for renting a flat in Victoria and owns another home in Newport. I would think that rent income from two properties would be substantial. Most people pay their rent or their mortgage from their salary with no chance of… Read more »

watchdog
Reply to  steephilljack
20, November 2012 10:15 pm

Some 40 years ago, when I was heading up a department, I appointed a person whom I knew to be homosexual. At the time, this sort of thing was frowned upon, though not illegal. Some time afterwards, my immediate superior called me up and said did I know that my recent appointment was homosexual. I said, Yes Jack, I know, but that is a private matter and… Read more »

Don Smith
Reply to  watchdog
21, November 2012 12:05 am

He can have dozen properties just as long as the tax payer is not paying for them – Which is the case in this instance.

Search out your CP and read the article, them you might just know what you’re talking about.

Denigrate? He’s done this himself.

Colin
Reply to  Don Smith
21, November 2012 8:29 am

oh dear, oh dear.

Have you seen who our MP is renting his London flat from?

Mr Magoo
21, November 2012 3:33 pm

Does the title Honourable Member of Parliament sit comfortably with Andrew Turner? I ask as he is one of a handful of the 650 members in the House, who owns somewhere to live in London and yet chooses to be a tenant in another flat paid for by taxpayers, which is a shameful breach of the spirit of the rules. The fact that he (or his partner,… Read more »

Don Smith
21, November 2012 7:16 pm

“I rent a flat in London which is owned by Lady Hill who is the wife of a Minister in the House of Lords.” Minister of the House of Parliament or the House of Lords – Not a great deal of difference mi thinks! It is time that these rules were changed, because those implementing these rules and those using these rules to their benefit, are [all]… Read more »

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