Local Concern Over Six Storey Building On Ventnor Esplanade

We realise it’s a long time back now, but it’s just possible that some of you might remember the planning application for a six storey building on Ventnor Esplanade being passed by the Isle of Wight Council five years ago.

Six Storey Building For Ventnor EsplanadeThis was before the days of Conservation Area protection (which now aims protect large parts of Ventnor) and it was also at a time when former planning officer Andrew Pegram (who left IWC last year to work in Nottingham) declared that a six storey building on the fragile Ventnor seafront of one, two and three story buildings was “… a minor application…”

A minor application? A six storey seafront building, blocking views of the terraces could be considered a minor application? Thank goodness Andrew Pegram doesn’t work for IWC anymore.

The site in question is that of Le Veness, which sits in between Riveria and Tides Cafe on the seafront.

Details of the development
The latest planning permission was a re-application (increased by two floors) following permission granted in 1984 for a four storey building on the same footprint.

The development proposes two commercial units at the bottom and nine flats up top.

The re-application was discussed at the DCC meeting (as the planning committee used to be named) on 1 June 2004, but as the minutes are sparse to say the least, it’s not clear how the discussions went.

Decision on the application was deferred pending a site inspection by the DCC and the application was discussed again on 13 July 2004 when approval was given.

Five storeys rejected, but six approved?
What is clear from the minutes of that meeting is that the DCC were offered the option of the building being just five storeys high rather than six, but for reasons unclear from the notes, they felt that avoiding a dog tooth effect was more important than retaining views of the terraces from the beach.

The Ventnor Town Council, although approving the original four storey building, objected to the six storey building but it appears their concerns fell on deaf ears at county level.

Work started
As anyone who has frequented the seafront over the past few years will know, the site has remained derelict for some time.

Planning permission was due to run out on 16th July 2009, but last week workmen were seen on site with a digger.

The alarm was raised on the VB forum and Cllr Lucas (Head of Ventnor TC Plans Committee) has been in contact with the planning department. He confirmed this morning that

The Planning officer tells me that no “formal” start has been made. The activity you saw was sufficient ground clearance to enable trial holes to be dug to give information to submit Clause 2 details These will be assessed by the Council engineer “when” they are submitted. To date, no such info has been received by the IOWC – Approval of the external materials has been given.

So it could be quite a while before a formal and proper start is made. If the ground conditions are not what is expected it would effect the technical drawings which Building Control would then need to approve

We understand that a meeting is being held today amongst local residents to discuss the matter further which we hope to report from.

It’s not surprising that many resident of Ventnor and its visitors are horrified that there’s a chance that this development might go ahead.

Other documentation
Full details of the case and the officer’s recommendations can be found in item 6 of Paper B1.

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Colin
9, June 2022 7:28 pm

What do you mean “will engage in transactional politics”?

It’s been going on for years surely? Support in exchange for funding? Isn’t that how politics normally works? Or in this particular case doesn’t.

Boris is such an untrustwothy character that he even shafts his supporters.

thedocker18
9, June 2022 7:30 pm

I’d given up the ‘Island Deal’ as a lost cause. If our MP is the only portal we have to Westminster, he has to be voted out.

Justin Case
9, June 2022 8:03 pm

Richard, I am, by instinct, wanting to side with you, but I’m disturbed by your lack of political acumen. Your projection of how this weeks events will effect a future outcome at the so-called ‘Island deal’ is wilful. It actually won’t make a jot of difference because the decision about what will happen was made a long time ago. It just remains for someone to announce what… Read more »

Fenders
9, June 2022 9:30 pm

Bob Seely must be getting increasingly desperate, particularly after saying at the last general election, ‘judge me by my results’. Clearly the reason many islanders voted for Bob was his promise about delivering the island deal, but after 3 years it is nowhere to be seen. So he talks instead about the Islandline, which delivered a few secondhand trains, and the £48 million for our hospital, that… Read more »

henry
9, June 2022 9:36 pm

The Tories will be wiped out at the next general election.

VentnorLad
Reply to  henry
9, June 2022 9:53 pm

I’d love to be able to share your confidence! The Tories are appalling. Dishonest, self-serving, incompetent, corrupt… But when will the opposition give us their alternative vision? What radically different strategy do they have to reform our crumbling society? How will they repair the damage inflicted upon our national reputation overseas? We need answers and I just don’t see the opposition providing them. There seems to be… Read more »

melting
Reply to  VentnorLad
11, June 2022 4:53 pm

I am with you there V.L.

greenhey
13, June 2022 1:25 pm

Sadly no they won’t I have become tuned to the phenomenal levels of gullibility in our voters, and it seems the best we can hope for is a hung Parliament with a Labour/Lib compact of some sort. As for the Island, remember he had a 23,000 majority. In my view that was undeserved, but it was the case. He may see that reduced substantially but he won’t… Read more »

Stuart George
Reply to  greenhey
13, June 2022 1:56 pm

I thought the Island was supposed to return 2 MP’s at the next election.

greenhey
13, June 2022 1:30 pm

BTW because we also live elsewhere ( and I have mentioned this before) the funds in the “Island deal” were also offered to other locations. That is, there was only one lump of money but many competing for it not knowing there was a competition. The desperation to kick the (immensely patronising) “levelling up” into life suggests to me that the Island will have fallen further down… Read more »

peter1
15, June 2022 9:08 pm

Conservatism is there to make money. Years gone by there was a world demand for our Engineering Products and consequently at home for Coal and Steel. In those days we had the markets. Everything was produced on the cheap; lack of proper equipment and workforce exploited; living hand to mouth; ring any bells! Eventually the world caught up technically and properly invested in equipment speeding up production… Read more »

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