Shanklin Dotto Train

Return of the Shanklin Dotto Train not ruled out, says town’s Mayor

The return of a Dotto train in Shanklin has not been ruled out — although caution has been voiced by a top councillor.

The iconic vehicle has been absent from the town for more than ten years now, but with renewed interest in one for Ryde, Shanklin has been looking at whether it would be a good idea to get one back on its roads.

The matter was raised at last week’s Shanklin Town Council meeting.

Quirk: They are unreliable
However, Shanklin mayor, Cllr Chris Quirk, said the town didn’t want a Dotto train as they were unreliable.

The former train in Sandown, he said, was a Landrover with bodywork to make it look like a land train.

He said,

“The one in Shanklin made a decent profit, the one in Sandown broke even and the one in Ryde, which was a Dotto train, made a thumping great loss every year which is why they got rid of it.

“What was disappointing was that the Isle of Wight council insisted on selling all three as a job lot.”

Quirk: A good private enterprise
Cllr Quirk said it was something the town council could consider, but he was not sure a public authority was the right body to be running a Dotto train.

He said,

“It is a good private enterprise we can encourage and help, rather than committing ratepayers’ money.

“I don’t think this is a good time to put up precepts to buy a Dotto train, but we can think of it.”

Scrapped by Conservatives
Dotto trains were scrapped on the Island in 2010 by the Isle of Wight Conservative council as the ageing vehicles meant increased maintenance costs.

At the time, the authority did look at replacing the trains with either new or refurbished ones, but was looking at a price tag of more than £100,000 per train.

Southern Vectis launched new summer route
It was deemed unviable and the Island’s bus operator, Southern Vectis introduced a new summer route covering as much of the Dotto train routes as possible.

Despite interest in bringing back the trains, including bids from local companies, the council sold the three vehicles to a businessman in Llandudno.

The council said it had accepted the best offer.


This article is from the BBC’s LDRS (Local Democracy Reporter Service) scheme, which News OnTheWight is taking part in. Some alterations and additions may have been made by OnTheWight. Ed

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Stephen
13, March 2012 10:07 am

There is succinct explanation of the financial benefits of and to employees working as service companies in local and national government on Page 32 – last article – of the latest Private Eye.

Has the District Auditor ever voiced any comments about statutory posts in IWC being taken by non-employees?

Thomas C.
13, March 2012 10:25 am

If this is shut down in the public sector, it will open up a much wider discussion about contractors working for private companies, of which there must be many thousands out there.

Income tax evasion is income tax evasion (or ‘efficiency’ if you’d rather) whether it’s public or private sector.

Stephen
Reply to  Thomas C.
13, March 2012 1:35 pm

Is this where HMRC’s IR35 regime kicks in? One tax advisory website for the self-employed suggests that HMRC will consider factors including:· What is the client’s business? Is there a written contract in place, and what is the length? What are the terms of the contract – e.g. does the contractor have a notice period, the hours of work, where and how is the work carried out?… Read more »

allan
13, March 2012 10:50 am

the Chief Executive of the Isle of Wight council, Steve Beynon, said “Dave meets all of his tax obligations.”
well that is probably very true under his present contract ,still not morally right

Asite2c
Reply to  allan
13, March 2012 2:46 pm

In my opinion, Benyon had no option but to make excuses and support the scandal of hiring limited companies. As Chief Executive, he probably gave the “go ahead” to employ them.

This Tory council gives me the impression of running County Hall like a dodgy big business instead as a democratic local council working for the Island people.

Leonard
13, March 2012 2:33 pm

For those interested, please see: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17339374

Tax advisor
13, March 2012 5:48 pm

Doing this saves tax. If not, why bother? This council has colluded in a very dodgy avoidance scheme to allow less tax to be paid than a direct employee would pay. They never answered the how much extra pension does he collect from his old employer question either. It stinks, the government needs to say enough is enough. Pugh and Beynon should both be sacked for allowing… Read more »

witchfinder general
Reply to  Tax advisor
13, March 2012 8:10 pm

It is not about saving taxes, it is a pension scam. You cannot draw a council pension if you work for any local authority. But you can take early retirement then work for a council as a consultant working for your own limited company. Burbage retired early. Benyon will do the same when he retires after the next elections, though it is doubtful that he has many… Read more »

Stephen
Reply to  witchfinder general
14, March 2012 5:08 pm

Not strictly true.

My understanding of the rules, as set out by the London Pensions Fund Authority, is that someone in receipt of a local government pension may return to local government work & keep their pension income plus a new salary as long as the total income does NOT exceed their income at the time of retirement with cost of living increases factored in.

Matthew James Martin
15, December 2012 9:31 am

Within what has come to light of Central Government antics in recent years, this is why I have already told others that if I am successful in gaining the Cowes Medina Ward from the Conservatives, any Island resident can have full access, barring security details, to my financial records. I understand how distressed the public are within hearing how their taxes are being used at times. I… Read more »

BRIAN
15, December 2012 11:34 am

The Inland Revenue have a pithy saying: “Those who pay tax are on PAYE, those who chose not to pay tax (the self-employed) are on PIYL – Pay If You Like. I have never understood why successive governments have tolerated separate rules for the normal employee and the self- employed. An example: I work for an employer, my next door neighbour is a self-employed plumber. His first… Read more »

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