Ventnor residents invited to Independent election ‘hustings’

Chris and Steve with Martin Bell:

This release in from Ventnor Independent candidates, Cllrs Chris Welsford (pictured right) and Steve Stubbings (pictured left), in their own words. Ed


Island Independents, Mayor of Ventnor, Steve Stubbings and former Mayor, Chris Welsford, who currently represents Ventnor East on the Isle of Wight Council, are again standing for election with the aim of providing Independent representation on the County Council for the whole of Ventnor.

Vote to see services reinstated
One their opponents is Cllr Susan Scoccia, Chairman of the Isle of Wight Council, leading Conservative Party member and the existing County Councillor standing for re-election in Ventnor West.

Chris and Steve believe that residents will be keen to reinstate services, such as public toilets, lifeguards and the vital Coastal Protection & Management Team based in Ventnor, cut by her Ruling Group that have been in power for the last eight years.

Democracy has been eroded
Steve Stubbings said “I am standing as an Island Independent because one of the main features of an Independent Council would be the ability for all Councillors to speak out on any subject under consideration without fear of being “out of step” with their group. There is no Party whip and a far more inclusive way of agreeing policies and bringing forward initiatives, which is difficult under the current dictatorial regime.

“Democracy is only as good as those with the power allow it to be. On the Isle of Wight the last eight years it has seen it eroded substantially.”

Many examples in Ventnor
Steve says that there are numerous examples of why this is important for Ventnor, “We have seen the IW Council trying to get rid of many public facilities, such as the Winter Gardens, The Botanic Gardens, The Coastal Centre, The Paddling Pool, Toilets all over the town and the beach lifeguards, some of which Ventnor Town Council took on.

Chris as an Independent County Councillor was at least able to represent his residents and voted against these cuts. I want to have the freedom to represent the residents of Ventnor West without any Party Whip telling me what to say and how to vote. The best way I can do that is by being an Independent”

Bell Principles of Independent Politics
An Independent led Isle of Wight Council would be very different from previous councils, including those that had Independent’s in their number, such as Island First.

True Independents would adhere to the Bell Principles of Independent Politics and the local Island Independents Promise to remain independent and put their residents first before all other considerations.

“Framework for Change”
The Island Independents are championing a “Framework for Change” which would lead to the introduction of a system that would banish “behind closed doors” policy making and interventions that have characterised the current administration.

This would allow all councillors’ views and input to be valued and for individual councillors to be able to bring initiatives before the council for serious consideration, without needing to be part of a ruling group. A fairer, more inclusive Council.

Find out more by visiting www.independent-island.co.uk

Image: © Used with permission of Allan Marsh

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mat
15, April 2013 10:27 am

A good start, reversing cuts and reinstating services. It is important to establish funding to finance changes. The island needs to get behind those who are elected to recover money from Europe and the Government. It is also essential to solve the problem of the ferries.Chris and Steve are most likely to speak up for Ventnor. Their record stands for itself against the let down of Sue… Read more »

bayboy
15, April 2013 4:25 pm

So, council tax to rise hugely to bring back ‘servcies’ that nobody has missed? There is lots of hot air being spouted about libraries, TICs, Toilets etc etc but ask yourself, have residents been affected? Has the economy of the Island been affected by the cuts? would residents support huge rises in council tax to bring them back? I would be very suprised if they would say… Read more »

wightywight
Reply to  bayboy
15, April 2013 4:58 pm

..”nobody has missed”….? Do get a grip. The whole management, from start to finish has become a shambles….and an undemocratic one at that. Businesses, residents and tourists alike have, and will be, affected by the cuts… Part of the reason for the cuts is that this administration accepted the central government ‘shekel’ of not putting up Council Taxes by induced funding..that refusal to address inflation alone …at… Read more »

sam salt
15, April 2013 4:34 pm

Yes Bayboy residents have been affected. Why? Because they lost valauable council funded services. How? Because in my area the local precept was raised by 20% to pay to keep the library open and purchase and run toilets by the community for the community and visitors. A double taxation to those that pay council tax in my area. As for cutting waste in County Hall, I can’t… Read more »

mat
15, April 2013 6:15 pm

Its amazing when you look back to the year 2000 that the situation demanded looking at funding then.Any council is going to have difficulty. IOW Area Assisted Status and the Ferries: Haven’t we Been Here Before? Posted on April 15, 2013 by rtuc Economic Development (Isle of Wight) http://rtuc.wordpress.com/ The thing is we now have a worse situation, pay is lower, unemployment is higher, The proportion of… Read more »

bigj
16, April 2013 12:08 pm

Island Independants? Independent of what? Decision making. “Many examples in Ventnor” Steve says that there are numerous examples of why this is important for Ventnor, “We have seen the IW Council trying to get rid of many public facilities, such as the Winter Gardens, The Botanic Gardens, The Coastal Centre, The Paddling Pool, Toilets all over the town and the beach lifeguards, some of which Ventnor Town… Read more »

phil jordan
Reply to  bigj
16, April 2013 5:33 pm

@BigJ: So if I have correctly understood your position, you want to apportion the blame for these woeful decisions on the minority of Councillors who, during the past 4 years at least, have been totally out voted on every motion by this administration who carry a 24 Councillor majority and have used it without fail on each and every occasion to push through the decisions and budgets… Read more »

bigj
18, April 2013 11:52 am

Thank you for your reply Phil, I’m sorry if I didn’t make my position clear and will try to clarify my issues. You are totally correct in declaring that, over the past 4 years your colleagues have been out voted on numerous occasions, and yes the undemocratic process can be partially held to blame. But that divide exists and Ventnor is paying the price. The blame lies… Read more »

steve s
Reply to  bigj
18, April 2013 12:01 pm

bigj. I’m not sure you’ve understood anything that’s been said. The big idea that is represented in the Independent ‘manifesto,’ is a return to a democratic process that will put an end to the block voting decisions which have decimated our town. If you are a Ventnor West voter please feel free to contact me. I’d be happy to pay you a visit. I’m sure Chris Welsford… Read more »

Chris Welsford
19, April 2013 11:15 pm

An Independent majority would ensure that no vote is wasted. Every councillor would be free to speak on any subject and vote according to their views and what they believe to be in the best interests of their residents. This is what I have been able to do for the last four years. And introduce motions and vote against my colleagues if that is the right thing… Read more »

bigj
21, April 2013 12:48 pm

Thanks Steve, No heavy handed doorstep visits required. Page 46 of the County Press is more helpful Chris All sounds very idyllic, but the evidence of the last term of office clearly shows that it doesn’t work. And as I’ve said previously, the examples that have been raised on numerous occasions prove this. Historically “nero played the fiddle while rome burned” I want better for the Island… Read more »

Stewart Blackmore
25, April 2013 10:51 pm

How went the ‘hustings’ in Ventnor?

I couldn’t attend due to knocking on doors canvassing.

Sally Perry
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Reply to  Stewart Blackmore
25, April 2013 10:52 pm

Report from the hustings due out in the morning.

phil jordan
25, April 2013 11:10 pm

They went very well…you were missed! …in fact there were some conspicuous absences. It’s clear the electorate want and support the opportunity to meet the candidates like this…those not attending will be seen as avoiding the issues. The letter read out at the Shanklin hustings from David Pugh in his defence of not attending was received with much derision and deep suspicion, I think. In the fullness… Read more »

tryme
Reply to  phil jordan
25, April 2013 11:28 pm

Seeing how candidates perform in relation to each other and in response to a variety of questions from the audience, has got to be a highly illuminating process for voters assessing their qualities, (perhaps that’s what DP was afraid of!) It’s the kind of situation the successful candidate will have deal with all the time. More useful in many ways, to feeling cornered one to one on… Read more »

Stewart Blackmore
Reply to  tryme
25, April 2013 11:33 pm

I’m confused Tryme.

Are you saying that Pugh’s excuse was read out at the Ventnor ‘hustings’?

tryme
Reply to  Stewart Blackmore
25, April 2013 11:44 pm

Phil says the letter was read out at the Shanklin hustings, Stewart, so I should have put that I don’t know why ‘it was’ read out (etc), Phil presumably not being involved there.

peaceful_life
Reply to  phil jordan
26, April 2013 12:18 am

Decorum.

Stewart Blackmore
25, April 2013 11:26 pm

Far from avoiding the issues, Phil, I have been out every day on the doorstep confronting the issues. I am not interested in David Pugh’s excuses in Shanklin, I am too busy listening to the voters in Ventnor. I don’t know how many attended the so-called Independent hustings in Ventnor, but I do know how what Ventnor people think because I have been knocking on their doors… Read more »

phil jordan
Reply to  Stewart Blackmore
26, April 2013 8:26 am

@Stewart Blackmore: Just to clarify some points, if I may. I did say “….One runs their campaign as they wish” and so any decision you/one takes for that process is entirely your/their own. You seem to be confusing some things here also… I attended both Shanklin and Ventnor hustings…out of interest and support for colleagues. I was not involved in either. The letter read out at Shanklin… Read more »

Stewart Blackmore
Reply to  phil jordan
26, April 2013 8:50 am

Well, Phil, you already know that I do not believe that these were hustings in the true meaning. I have attended dozens of real hustings and this is what happens: ALL of the candidates are formally invited and then given time to address the audience, take questions and take part in the debate. This was, as I’ve said elsewhere, a meeting organised for and for, the benefit… Read more »

phil jordan
Reply to  Stewart Blackmore
26, April 2013 9:26 am

@Stewart Blackmore: You are missing my point once again stewart. I am not accusing you of anything. You made your choice and I am perfectly happy to accept that position. Absolutely no problem whatsoever. However, the Public were not quite so forgiving I think. Whichever way you want to explain yourself, the public appeared to express their thoughts in a negative way towards to those candidates who… Read more »

Stewart Blackmore
25, April 2013 11:28 pm

For ‘Ventnor’, I of course mean Ventnor West. Apologies.

steve s
26, April 2013 6:24 am

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Stewart Blackmore
Reply to  steve s
26, April 2013 8:24 am

Steve, During my time canvassing in Lowtherville, the subject of wind turbines came up precisely twice – one for and one strongly against. Let’s set the record straight; if I am lucky enough to be elected I will NEVER promote the golf club whilst a member of the Council. Apart from the very strict rules governing Councillors’ bahaviour, I would personally believe it to be unethical to… Read more »

steve s
Reply to  Stewart Blackmore
26, April 2013 8:40 am

But you’re not too ‘ethical’ to deliberately misquote an opponent on this blog are you?
See you on the street, Stewart.

Stewart Blackmore
26, April 2013 9:01 am

I am at ease with my conscience Steve.

BTW – love the painted ‘billboard’ giving the impression of a very Angelic candidate. Looks like it could have been a Saatchi creation, it couldn’t have been cheap!

fatrob
Reply to  Stewart Blackmore
26, April 2013 10:22 am

Stewart, I do believe that the angel was already there from a previous painting. You not knowing this makes me think that you’re not out on the streets as much as you’d like us to believe.

Joseph Moore
Reply to  fatrob
26, April 2013 10:27 am

Indeed. It was the Christmas mural, and a very lovely piece of artwork at that. I do enjoy seeing the new ones each time they are created :)

Stewart Blackmore
Reply to  fatrob
26, April 2013 10:51 am

Fatrob, I had noticed the excellent Xmas artwork. Canvassing or not, I drive on Newport Road most days. I just wonder why the Angel was left there. Subliminal?

tryme
26, April 2013 9:56 am

Island Indies are so far doing a very good job at demonstrating, simply by the way they are going about their business, that they will be different. The only thing they have to be wary of at this stage is being goaded by those who, if successful in getting the hoped-for reaction from them, would then triumphantly say the Indies are no different from anyone else –… Read more »

steve s
26, April 2013 10:20 am

Thank you, tryme. I appreciate and accept your sound advice.
Now I’m off to knock on some doors. ;-)

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