Wightlink: Yar-Lym timetable changes bring improved train links

Changes were made after discussions with Yarmouth Ferry Users Group say Wightlink – bringing advantages of better connection with trains at Lymington Pier.

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This in from Wightlink, about the changes to the Yarmouth – Lymington timetable. It’s in their words – Ed


Wightlink are encouraging increased dialogue with Ferry user groups on the Island to understand how the service can be improved for the majority of their customers.

Consequently, they have listened to feedback from the Yarmouth Ferry Users Group as well as general customer feedback about the train connections at Lymington Pier and have revised the Autumn timetable on the Lymington-Yarmouth route in response.

Re-times for train connections
From 16 September 2013 until the end of the year, sailings have been re-timed throughout the day to allow better connections with trains from Lymington Pier. In addition, the first ferry from Yarmouth has been re-timed to 0625 (from 0635) to allow Islanders to catch the 0714 train from Lymington.

Wightlink’s priority is to provide a timetable which meets the needs of the overwhelming majority of islanders and is sustainable for the future.

Wightlink: A small number of sailings will no longer operate
Crossings that consistently run over 90% empty are therefore seriously reviewed to maintain the sustainability of the entire operation. As a result, a small number of sailings will no longer operate from 16 September 2013 (round trips from Lymington at 2005 Monday to Thursday, 1800 and 2005 Saturdays and 0640 and 0845 Sundays).

Even after these changes come in to effect, Wightlink will continue to operate up to 32 sailings a day between Lymington and Yarmouth.

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11 Comments

  1. mat's comment is rated +2 Vote +1 Vote -1

    13.Aug.2013 11:43am

    Big deal!!!

    CUTS,CUTS,CUTS…..When is it going to STOP?

    Maquarie/Wightlink don’t know the meaning of the word “sustainable”.

    This monopoly is simply not capable of running a service, never mind an essential one.We need to kick them out!

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    • woodworker's comment is rated +5 Vote +1 Vote -1

      13.Aug.2013 4:16pm

      okay… how do you intend to do that?

      I think its a very good idea for Wightlink to listen to the majority of their customers and alter timetables accordingly. Ferries that meet the trains are useful services. Ferries that run 90% empty, or put another way, only 10% full, are not a useful service.

      It does strike me that with cutting some of the empty crossings, maybe Wightlink can run additional crossings at busy times instead.

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  2. retiredhack's comment is rated +6 Vote +1 Vote -1

    13.Aug.2013 4:32pm

    I seem to remember being promised that bigger ferries on this route wouldn’t mean fewer crossings. If the ferries hadn’t been made bigger, they wouldn’t now be 90 per cent empty. They might be 60 or 70 per cent empty but not 90. That’s simple arithmetic. Therefore a decision to cut services because huge ferries are 90 per cent empty isn’t compatible with the promise not to cut crossings because the ferries are bigger.

    As to the better connections with trains, I’ll believe it when I see it. When the size of the ferries was increased, Wightlink lost the ability to pass two of them seamlessly in the Lymington River in the way in which that always used to happen. Even when only two boats are running (as they were when I crossed last week), one has to wait in the open channel for the other to exit the river. You can’t keep to any timetable in that way, and they don’t. For the Brockenhurst train it’s simple. It chugs up and down the line every half hour, regular as clockwork. That’s how the ferries used to work. Wightlink’s dash for cash has put paid to that.

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    • woodworker's comment not rated yet. Add your vote Vote +1 Vote -1

      14.Aug.2013 1:07am

      60 or 70% empty makes it better does it? If the ferries are only 40% full at most, it is still pointless making the sailing.
      Wightlink have come a long way from cutting sailings at the last minute due to “operational reasons”. They need to cut some sailings that sail virtually empty, and are finally being straight about that fact.

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  3. robsuk's comment not rated yet. Add your vote Vote +1 Vote -1

    27.Aug.2013 10:15am

    Am I missing the PLOT. IS wightlink a ferries company OR a train company? By making crossing time match the time of the trains is that going to improve crossings for majority of passageages? SO HOW MANY USE THE TRAIN TO / FROM LYMINGTON LESS THAN 1% ? Common wightlink cut out the bull s**t, a cut is a cut. What service provider stops its service at 20.05 for its customers benefit. THATS why they are running 90% empty, and lets not get me on how much it COSTS……

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    • Cicero's comment is rated +1 Vote +1 Vote -1

      27.Aug.2013 11:19am

      Wightlink is a piggy-bank for MacQuarie masquarading as a public service ferry company.

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      • The Accountant's comment is rated +1 Vote +1 Vote -1

        27.Aug.2013 12:14pm

        A piggy-bank? More like a money pit given the massive interest payments they have to make on the multi-million pound loans required to buy the company.

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        • ALLAN's comment not rated yet. Add your vote Vote +1 Vote -1

          27.Aug.2013 12:37pm

          doh which they borrowed from themselves

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          • The Accountant's comment is rated +1 Vote +1 Vote -1

            27.Aug.2013 12:39pm

            It doesn’t matter where they borrowed it from, the interest payments are still being charged to Wightlink.

          • Cicero's comment is rated +1 Vote +1 Vote -1

            27.Aug.2013 12:59pm

            One would expect that somebody labelling himself as “The Accountant” would recognise this is the usual scam that also happens with the buying and selling of football clubs.

            1. The buyer borrows the money (often from another pocket that he owns in an offshore tax haven).

            2. The debt himself on the books of the company bought with the liability that of the company. So interest payments to the buyer- and set by the buyer- are borne by the company. bought.

            3. These payments substantially reduce the corporate tax that company is liable for.

            4.Reduced tax liability increases profits that are transferred to the buyer’s tax haven.

            For the buyer, it is a no-risk win-win bet.

            Even if the company goes into liquidation at some time, the buyer would have already ensured that the outstanding debt to himself was preferential and could be recovered from sale of assets and brand name. (Only HRMC would have a prior claim, however good tax planning has reduced the tax liability as far as possible.)

            “Lubbly-jubbly” as that other wheeler-dealer, Del Boy, would say!

  4. ALLAN's comment is rated +1 Vote +1 Vote -1

    27.Aug.2013 12:50pm

    i agree it matter not 1 jot where the money comes from, but it means doing it there way they can make sure any profit stays within the group and there will no tax payable as well

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