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Live coverage of DfT Island Line information session

Sally Perry·

OnTheWight will be reporting live from the Department for Transport (DfT) information session from midday today (Tuesday).

The meeting takes place at Yelf’s Hotel between midday-2pm, starting with a 40 minute presentation. A member of the consultation team will be on hand to answer any questions on the future of Island Line trains.

The DfT consultation was launched last month and Islanders have until 9th February to respond.

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Cicero
15, December 2015 11:59 am

Good on yer Sally! Thank goodness for professional journalists!

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Vix Lowthion
15, December 2015 12:21 pm

Thank you OTW for this. It means I can follow this meeting at my desk in my lunch hour, because I cannot attend as I am at work.

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craig williams
15, December 2015 1:03 pm

Whats the chances of having a line into newport ?

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Frank James
Reply to  craig williams
15, December 2015 2:00 pm

Nowhere near as high as having a very pricey and controversial HS2 line elsewhere, and probably nowhere near as high as losing Island Line thanks to Tigger and his friends.

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Chris
Reply to  craig williams
16, December 2015 12:42 am

Realistically, nil.

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Rod Manley
15, December 2015 2:03 pm

Stewart Blackmore is absolutely right it will ultimately be a political decision made by Claire Perry.

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stephen
15, December 2015 4:10 pm

20 minute service would be good but would there be requirements for extra rolling stock and crew to maintain a resilient diagram of train movements.

Presumably clever timetabling to get passing points at St Johns, Sandown & possibly Brading – in case of late running – would be necessary.

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Chris
Reply to  stephen
16, December 2015 12:45 am

I understand an unadvertised 20min service has been run occasionally in recent years, but there’s not much opportunity to make up delays and its rarely justified – rationalisation, with just a loop at Brading, would cut costs and allow a half hourly service.

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Richard
16, December 2015 7:51 am

Chris
Are you saying we should just have the one loop at Brading and remove all the lines?
This would not allow any flexiability in the event of disruption.

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Chris
Reply to  Richard
16, December 2015 6:23 pm

Yes, apparently this is what Network Rail were proposing just a few years ago when they were looking to resignal during the Olympics and realistically a single loop would be perfectly sufficient. Removing the second track between Esplanade and Smallbrook would cut maintenance and renewal costs, allow the Steam Railway to operate into Ryde St Johns, and perhaps see some speed restrictions raised by removing points and… Read more »

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Richard
16, December 2015 9:59 pm

Chris How would we maintain flexiability if we have an operational incident? At the moment because we have the infrastructure in place to play trains we can still maintain a service of sorts. Also how does it allow for growth if we give up this infrastructure? How nice would it be to run a service to Newport, but it’s not going to happen because all the infrastructure… Read more »

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Chris
Reply to  Richard
17, December 2015 1:12 am

It would make little difference having one passing place instead of alternating between two, especially if the loop at Brading was ‘dynamic’ – long enough that trains can pass at speed rather than stopping to wait. I’m not suggesting selling land off for housing but the current infrastructure was for a 20/20/20 minute service that almost never ran – a single loop will cut renewal and maintenance… Read more »

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phil008
19, December 2015 8:41 pm

the biggest mistake here is the length of the franchise, 7-9 years doesnt bode well for any company to invest, why wasnt a longer franchise considered? Chiltern Railways have a 22 year franchise, that enables the company to invest knowing it will re coup its money over the years. Light rail has been suggested and whilst this would reduce costs, the cost to install would be very… Read more »

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phil008
21, December 2015 2:38 pm

Heres some rough working out of figures based on information from the franchise consultations on DfT website. Station footfall for Lymington Pier is 123,918. Assuming they travel the length of the branch line at 4.00 for a day return generates 495,672.00. With the half hourly service starting at 06:14 and finishing around 23:00 that would require 3 drivers and 3 guards, plus the need for 2 more… Read more »

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