Cllr Pugh: IW Conservatives support Police/DWP Benefit vehicle stops

Council leader says that the Island Conservatives support drivers being stopped and questioned by benefit fraud investigators in the “crackdown to identify potential fraud”.

David Pugh

Following yesterday’s condemnation by Island Labour of the police operation which stopped drivers on the Isle of Wight who were then questioned by benefit fraud investigators and council officers, Cllr David Pugh, with his IW Conservatives hat on, got in touch with a response.

Cllr David Pugh told On The Wight, “The culture of benefit dependency soared under the Labour Government, so it is little surprise that their local representatives are opposed to firm action to tackle benefit fraud.

“The Island Conservatives fully support the crackdown to identify potential fraud cases, and we will continue to support IW Council officers and other agencies in taking such steps.”

25 benefit fraud investigations sparked by the operation
He went on to say, “The fact that 25 benefit fraud investigations were sparked by the operations shows that this has been a worthwhile exercise. These could amount to 25 thefts of taxpayers’ money which may not have been identified if the Island Labour Party had their way. It is clear whose side they are on.

“All hard-working, honest Island taxpayers should have nothing to fear from such operations continuing to take place in order to identify the small minority of people who are abusing the benefits system.”

Tuesday, 4th December, 2012 6:20pm

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52 Comments on "Cllr Pugh: IW Conservatives support Police/DWP Benefit vehicle stops"

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Cynic

“Well- he would say that wouldn’t he!” :-))

hussar

Typical response from a despotic dictator. No qualms with benefit fraudsters being brought to book but to get the police to do it in this way is totally reminscent of the fascist dictatorships of the 1930s.

tryme
DP doesn’t seem to have read the comments on the previous topic regarding this operation! I refer him to them. This is another example of ineffective tit-for-tat from him, instead of a response that addresses concerns. He implies that the Labour Party are all in favour of fraud! By the way, what is “potential” fraud? Unless the DWP had crystal balls with them, presumably fraud that hasn’t… Read more »
tryme

I also think DP is insulting benefit claimants in general by relating “dependency” on benefit with benefit fraud, as he does here.

By the way, I bet there’s a few cabinet members who are “dependent” on their allowances….. Doesn’t sound a polite way of putting it, does it?

Don Smith

Especially Husband and wife Councillors.

Island Monkey
What a ***t this bloke is. Had he stayed on at either of the two universities he attended – he may have found time learned a few lessons from history. He might also get some better legal advice. The operation supported by the Tories was unlawful. You cannot stop people randomly and demand papers. As for the local Tories – which party do you think the bankers… Read more »
Island Monkey

Perhaps the next crackdown could be launched investigating former council officers in receipt of pensions setting up personal service companies to avoid tax and NI?

JamesP

And to hang on to those pensions, entitlement to which depended on their not having other (payroll) jobs! As I recall, Mr Pugh defended those arrangements and still does in the case of Dave Burbage (Ltd).

Mr Magoo

Astonishing. That is the most juvenile and arrogant argument I believe I have ever read by a local council leader.
How on earth did Councillor Pugh come to the conclusion that Isle of Wight Labour Party members are opposed to tackling benefit fraud?
His comments are insulting and I think less of Councillor Pugh for making them and invite him to reconsider his words and apologise.

tryme

Spot on Island Monkey. I suggest they stand outside the doors of County Hall (or outside the lift of the relevant floor), & make that very check for “company employed”, highly paid managers & directors who are not entitled to get out of paying tax & NI, as well as seeking out “potential” expense account frauds.

Matt

This is targeted at the poor!Infringement of Civil Liberties!

tryme
Sorry to be posting so much, but I’ve just registered that according to DP it is only “All hard-working, honest Island taxpayers [who] should have nothing to fear..” Presumably benefit claimants, on the other hand, deserve whatever they get, simply because they are claiming. Claimants(very often)are not in work, nor (very often) taxpayers. It’s as though DP despises benefit claimants in general, not just the tiny number… Read more »
Cynic

Be pleased! The Boy Pugh is digging his political grave on the Island with his mouth! :-))

steephilljack
Sad to say, but I think his statement will find a lot of supporters among the hard-working Island tax payers. I don’t suppose he has to pay tax on his allowances of £35,370, does he ? Perhaps he should say “Tough on claimants and the causes of claimants” and then get the schools improved from bottom place so that our school-leavers have a better chance of finding… Read more »
prewitt parrot
Pugh’s outburst is childish and quite frankly pathetic. He has embarrassed himself and set himself up for ridicule, once again. Is he suggesting that the only way his officers are able to detect potential benefit fraud is to stop random vehicles in the street? He has been the leader of this Council for three and a half years so if his far fetched claims stood up to… Read more »
Rea
Mr Pugh, just a few facts for you to think about. This island has high unemployment and, of those who do manage to find work, most work for minimum/lower than average wages, therefore quite a large proportion of islanders are benefit claimants in one way or another. The island labour party are not on the side of fraudsters, they are on the side of the (financially) poor… Read more »
Rea

…perhaps a solicitor could advise on this point.

mike starke
Cllr David Pugh, who receives nearly double the average Island wage out of taxpayers’ cash for what used to be voluntary community service as a councillor, says: “The fact that 25 benefit investigations were sparked by the operations shows that this has been a worthwhile exercise. These could amount to 25 thefts of taxpayers’ money.” Well, at least we know where he stands on the British legal… Read more »
Mr Magoo

The more often I read Councillor Pugh’s words the more incredulous I become…. “All hard-working, honest Island taxpayers should have nothing to fear….”
Does he include his Conservative ally Andrew Turner MP who is claiming £20,000 a year from those same ‘hard-working honest taxpayers’ for a rented flat in London when he owns one nearby?
It’s not illegal but it’s highly offensive and sticks in my craw.

caulk-ed

Does any of you hear the echoing bells of Pugh/Morgan Hughes???? Do any of you remember the days when Morgan Hughes done his best to demolish everything to make it a car park (more council revenue). Oh and what a bonus he even became a top guy at southern vectis (and made a good package out of that). Wake up Isle of Wight!!!!

Sciolist

Mike Starke is being a tad harsh. I believe David did once have a proper job – in a stationers.

On that basis I think perhaps he should confine his comments on his area of true expertise. Pencils, envelopes and reams of A4.

Don Smith

What does our leader think about our MPs property portfolio?

Oh! I forgot, it’s within the rules’. We are all in it together.

BRIAN

Looks like we need some assistance. Anyone seen Watt Tyler lately? In his day, certain councillors would have their heads on poles.

adrian nicholas

I’d note that today the term ‘fraudster’ and ‘criminal’ is relativist- and seems allowed a certain ‘legality’ to tory non-dom cronies and the this coalitions socially criminal policies.
Indeed, David Pugh’s Tory party electoral local police commissioner, Michael Mates, certainly makes a fine upstanding example!

BRIAN
This is typical of tories. Public servants out on the streets coming the heavy on benefit claimants while the likes of the Carlton Club clique quietly shuffle their millions around Europe or some tropical paradise to save a fortune in tax. Edmund Coke summed it up brilliantly: The law doth punish man or woman, who steals a goose from off the common. But lets the greater felon… Read more »
sam salt

Is David Pugh planning on standing as the next Police and Crime Commissioner? Looks like it to me. Perhaps someone should remind him that he has a job to do here on the Island as Council Leader rather than acting as some self appointed Policeman Plod. This once again shows his inexperience and lack of judgement.

tryme

If I don’t ever see again that photo of DP at the top of this topic, it will be much, much too soon ……….! Nothing against OTW, it’s about the look on his face……

Janet Scott

tryme, if only I could give you 50
‘arrows up’ I would. That’s how strongly
I agree with you.

prewitt parrot

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sam salt

Prewitt Parrot you have a couple of green arrows but I actually find your comment about his looks quite insulting. Perhaps it’s the generation I come from but it’s not particularly pleasant.

tryme

I’m usually hot on nasty personal remarks,sam salt, & would agree with you they should be avoided, but in this case I myself don’t feel that threshold was crossed.

sam salt

Fair comment tryme, suppose we are all different that’s why you get a good balanced view on here. TO be fair I have never heard David Pugh attack people on their looks which can’t be helped although some of his comments can be more than nasty at times.

prewitt parrot
His cheeks are wider than his fore head, its an observation which you took as an insult sam The Humpty Dumpty comparison was a metaphor as Pugh isn’t fat, but the attitude example I feel was accurate. Pugh is a power hungry little no account, he is trying to imitate the rhetoric of the nasty party hierarchy as his sole intention is to climb that ladder, although… Read more »
Colin

Ah, yes, the pantomime season is now well under way.

We already have Dick Turpin running the Highways department and I think this is a late bid to be the chorus leader, as in
“labour supports the scroungers”

“oh no we don’t” (or maybe we do)

but then that wasn’t the question was it?

Let’s not let a slagging off opportunity get in the way of civil liberties.

Black Dog
Once again we hear from a man who takes every opportunity to attack people who are unable to defend themselves. Let me put you straight Mr Pugh, had it not been for your meddling based on unqualified facts drawn up by unqualified colleagues and officers on closures of a number of public services and your continued, unfathomable, support for Wightlink Ferries the Island would without doubt have… Read more »
tryme
Perhaps Pugh will resign at the very last moment he can before the elections, (along with those in his band who haven’t already declared themselves out). This could lull people into voting Tory again, with a crop of new faces to look at. What is the simple message that we can all spread round as regards voting? Will ‘Vote for anyone as long as they’re not Tory’… Read more »
tulsevent

Re picture: The sun always shines on the richeous and Davy Pugh.

JamesP

“Perhaps Pugh will resign at the very last moment”

Along with Beynon? They could tour as a double-act; there must be a few few end-of-the-pier shows left that need an injection of comedy, and it would give the audience a great opportunity to throw stuff…

retiredhack
I would like to know exactly how the police became involved in this political stunt, and how they justify it. The official line in that the police “invited” the Council and DWP to join them, but that doesn’t, of course, tell us whose idea it was. Certainly the conversation could have been along the lines of: “Why don’t you (police) invite us to join you…?” The police… Read more »
Stewart Blackmore
What an absolutely disgraceful set of remarks from Pugh. The Labour party has NEVER condoned benefit fraud. How would he have reacted if the police had stopped drivers and asked them to produce evidence of their income tax payments? This is a blatant example of just how hypocritical any Tory is when it comes to so-called benefit fraud. Mind you, if the police had charged him with… Read more »
prewitt parrot

Also behaving in a manner likely to cause alarm, harassment or distress to others. Which not only caused distress to his victims but due to the police inaction it also had a detrimental effect on the local community as a whole.

steephilljack

David Pugh brings our Council and our Island into disrepute. He must be abandoned and the Conservative Party should be the first to do it, in their own interest, before the election in May.

Robert Jones
This is a completely shameful statement in so many ways, and frankly Cllr Pugh might consider getting a real job himself before criticizing people on benefits. On a single matter of fact, he is wrong; “benefit dependency”, whatever he means by that, did not “soar”, or even increase, under the last Labour government. A government by the way for which I have little sympathy, but I’d still… Read more »