Island line carriage

Council leader says questions over transport expert are ‘mischief’ making

Last Wednesday (14th October), the Isle of Wight council issued a press release, announcing the appointment of an independent transport expert to help inform the Island’s collective response to DfT proposals for Island Line trains.

Concerns about the appointment were raised the same evening at the Isle of Wight full council meeting (read our live coverage), when Labour councillor Geoff Lumley asked for an assurance there were no links between Christopher Garnett and either the KILF campaign group or the MP’s transport advisor, Nick Finney.

Questions to the council
Given the concerns raised at the council meeting and following it, OnTheWight posed a number of questions to the council about Mr Garnett’s appointment.

  1. Which member (as mentioned by JB last night) recommended CG as transport advisor?
  2. What was the process for selection?
  3. What due diligence was carried out by the IWC on each of the DfT suggestions?
  4. Are the IWC aware of any professional or personal connections between CG and Nick Finney?
  5. If there is a connection between them, does that alter the IWC’s selection and if not why not?
  6. Who in the DfT put together the list of suggested names?

Council’s response
After chasing several times for a response, we finally were sent the following statement from the council yesterday (Tuesday) afternoon.

Councillor Jonathan Bacon, Isle of Wight Council leader, said:

“Mr Garnett’s experience and professionalism are unparalleled and it would be churlish to reject the offer of his assistance based on prejudice and the desire to make mischief to unclear ends.

“I have every confidence he will be fair and balanced in his approach to helping the Island taking proper account of the views of all stakeholders.

“We must remember that ultimately the Department for Transport is the body that will make the decisions about Island Line and not the Isle of Wight Council.”

Didn’t answer our questions
As can be seen above the (somewhat surprising) statement didn’t answer our questions, so we asked again.

“It’s lovely that you’ve sent us a statement that in effect says “don’t worry” – but when will the answers to our questions, that we sent five days ago, that we were told today that you were “working on”, arrive? Sure the statement isn’t in place of answers to the questions.”

Leader responds
Two hours later, we were grateful that leader of the Isle of Wight council, Jonathan Bacon replied with more fulsome answers.

1. Mr Garnett’s ward member recommended him. He was also recommended by the DfT. (OnTheWight understands Mr Garnett lives in Nettlestone, so his cllr would be Reg Barry. Ed)

2. A number of discussions were held with Mr Garnett to confirm his appetite to help the Island in the short timescales set by the Department for Transport. We also established his expertise and willingness to help pro bono and the fact he has a strong link and interest in the isle of Wight.

3. Not sure what you mean by this in the circumstances. Mr Garnett was suggested by DfT as having significant and relevant experience to assist in this role

4. Mr Garnett has confirmed to the council that he knows Mr Finney; they work in the same niche sector. in the circumstances it woud be bizarre if they did not know each other.

5. See above

6. Mr Garnett’s name was suggested in a meeting with the Director of Rail Franchising for the DfT

It must be remembered that the DfT will be the final decision maker for what will happen with Island Line. There is no decision to be made by the council. The council is merely seeking to find a way of coordinating a response from Island Stakeholders to help inform the expressed intention to deliver the services and put the line on a sustainable footing for the future. We can either engage with the process or allow the government to finalise its plans without any involvement from the IW. Mr Garnett’s assistance allows us to engage with respected expert assistance with the added benefit of the assistance being provided pro bono.

See more on the Garnett Report.

Image: tompagenet under CC BY 2.0

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Vix Lowthion
21, October 2015 7:49 pm

So Andrew Turner is washing his hands of this Island Line affair – and blaming the Council for not setting up the task force. Now the Council are washing their hands of any responsibility, and saying it lies squarely with the Department for Transport.

It’s a pointless triangle.

What about island residents and passengers? Where do we feature in this game of passing the buck?

Steephill Jack
Reply to  Vix Lowthion
21, October 2015 8:18 pm

Cllr. Bacon is right: it would be very strange if these two ‘experts’ did not know each other. Garnett has been appointed by our elected Council but Finney has a relationship with Turner that has never been explained, despite many questions about it. My own inclination is to trust Cllr. Bacon and be highly suspicious of the MP’s camp of advisers who manage to keep him at… Read more »

Thomas the Tank
21, October 2015 8:03 pm

Mischief making? Now who do we know would do that? Clue, he lives in Shanklin.

Tobytram
21, October 2015 8:37 pm

Thomas admit your self serving ‘dealings’ in all of this, clue who lives with the other unelected one and often one other in Carisbrooke ?

A.Pugin
21, October 2015 8:42 pm

I actually think that sometimes the comments on here should sometimes be switched off or edited to stop all of this ridiculous trolling. It does nothing but devalue the debate and otw as a whole

Rod Manley
21, October 2015 9:10 pm

I do not think that Cllr Lumley’s criticism should be dismissed by sleight of hand. There are also real concerns what Taskforce Mark 2 is for.

Geoff Lumley
Reply to  Rod Manley
22, October 2015 8:35 am

My question did not criticise or seek to make mischief. It merely sought clarification. The Council leadership clearly did not know of this gentleman’s link to the MP’s transport adviser when they appointed him; now they do.

retired Hack
21, October 2015 9:30 pm

I note that Cllr Bacon does not claim to have known about Mr Garnett’s past association with Mr Finney when he announced Mr Garnett’s appointment. The due dilligence, sadly, seems to have been left to others in the hours which followed the announcement. I don’t regard this as making mischief, and nor do I regard a desire to make a strong pro-franchise case to the Government as… Read more »

Richard
21, October 2015 10:18 pm

Thomas “Mischief making” Are you being serious? You are the one who has been mischief making, starting all this nonsense n the first place by telling the DfT all your community rail partnerships rubbish. Why did you not advise our MP that the best way any investment will be made in Islandline would be to stay in a franchise, especially one as profitable as SWT, just like… Read more »

I.Reader
21, October 2015 10:38 pm

As all this seems to be happening as a result of team Tigger suggesting that IL be removed from the franchise to be (realistically not) run by islanders without the means to do so, that may more reasonably be “described as a desire to make mischief”.

Fleecing taxpayers for unjustified accommodation costs might also be similarly described.

Terry Carpenter
21, October 2015 10:54 pm

It is time for solutions and progress. This is our public service Railway not a political football! Network Rail have been called in to resolve decades of neglect and under investment. The Railway Pier is still a substantial structure and is in need of repair and renovation. Ryde Tunnel is The Key to the loading gauge of the entire line. If rolling stock is too high long… Read more »

newagetrainspotter
Reply to  Terry Carpenter
21, October 2015 11:32 pm

If the modified D78 stock with diesel engines, a conversion by Vivarail was adopted, you’d need no expensive upgrade of line side electrical equipment. I’d put money on the fact MP Turner doesn’t even know these trains exist. But let’s not forget that the MP (and his ‘advisor’ are still evading questions. The longer time passes by with no definitive answers, the more the public will become… Read more »

Chris
Reply to  Terry Carpenter
21, October 2015 11:36 pm

There’s no need, and realistically no prospect, of a 20min service – reinstating a loop around Brading is by far the likeliest solution, and I believe this was planned by Network Rail for the (deferred) resignalling a couple of years ago. A single loop at Brading would allow a significant rationalisation of the infrastructure while allowing the Steam Railway dedicated use of a track into Ryde St… Read more »

yjciow
21, October 2015 10:55 pm

I agree with A Pugin’s comment. I have always felt the voting on comments detracts from taking the article and comments seriously. This is where the Isle of Wight County Press differs from On the Wight and is in my mind got the edge.

Mrs Retired Hack
Reply to  yjciow
22, October 2015 11:03 am

That’s very interesting. I, on the other hand, quite like seeing up and down arrows on comments. Would a lot of arrows going one way make me change my mind? No, of course not, but many people might hesitate to write a comment while they would click an arrow. I can’t say, as you have, yjciow, that arrow-clicking would “detract from taking the article and comments seriously”,… Read more »

Richard
21, October 2015 11:06 pm

Where the IOWCP does do better is remove comments made under pseudonyms!!

Richard
21, October 2015 11:12 pm

Terry

As an ex signalman in Ryde St John’s box before becoming a guard, You don’t have to re-introduce the double track between Sandown and Brading for a 20 minute service, but you would need 3 trains running, something I feel is not viable.
All your other comments are spot on.

davimel
22, October 2015 10:47 am

I find it strange that Clr Bacons’ comment about all this ‘mischief making’ smacks of certain Trolls snide comments thrown in when anyone dares question anything AT related.. must be contagious eh?.. Whatever the reason, thank goodness for we ‘mischief makers’ bringing very relevant and important issues to the Councils attention, showing once again that Due Diligence was an afterthought!

tiki
22, October 2015 7:19 pm

Who knows what to believe any more!

S Osmund
22, October 2015 8:38 pm

Unfortunately some of Councillor Bacon’s pronouncements have been less than reassuring. He accused a correspondent of the County Press of inaccuracy in respect of a partnership with a company in debt, only to have his accusations rebound. He has boasted of the strong leadership of the Isle of Wight Council in respect of this years GCSE’s results which actually placed the Island’s Year 11s in the bottom… Read more »

Terry Carpenter
25, October 2015 3:02 pm

To all Island Freemasons, When you next meet on the square, please treat Island Line as one of your own widows. She needs to stay within franchise for her own protection. Thank You.
P.S The windows of Shanklin Lodge look dirty. Is there any truth that your last window cleaner disappeared after getting his foot stuck in his own bucket at one of your ceromonies?

Terry Carpenter
Reply to  Terry Carpenter
25, October 2015 6:44 pm

Oops! Reaction provoked, Potential case made. Connectivity issues?
Apologies for any offence to the genuine brotherhood of Worldwide Freemasons, The Society wih Secrets, who do so much charitable work and noble deeds. Like all large Societies a minority of members work outside the rules.

The Sciolist
25, October 2015 9:32 pm

As a member of this wonderful fraternal brotherhood, I was offended by your stereotypical post.

Now do I get the 24 UP arrows to counteract your 24 down?

Tobytram
26, October 2015 9:03 am

We don’t for one moment think you would be invited to become a member of that distinguished and august brotherhood. In any event you aren’t allowed to join are you? It’s on the grapevine, Lady M dares to go to the PATRON’S outing this Thursday to the esteemed heart of the Tory Party, the CARLTON CLUB ! ! Will she stop at nothing with trying to join… Read more »

Observer
Reply to  Tobytram
26, October 2015 10:01 am

Quite right Tobytram. If His Holiness knew that The Sciolist was pretending he was a freemason he would lose his KSG! In any event I can’t imagine that any of the masons I know would want him as a member!

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