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How did councillors get a rise if the Panel that recommends them wasn’t asked? (update 4)

Imagine giving up your time, unpaid, to sit on an the Isle of Wight council Panel for several years, and then hear through the press that you have recommended a rise for councillors’ allowances – despite not having met for two years – and then you’re told by a senior council officer that all members of the Panel have resigned, when they haven’t.

This is exactly what members of the Isle of Wight council Independent Remuneration Panel (IRP) say they have experienced in the last few months.

Shocked to read it in the press
Members of the Panel have told News OnTheWight how shocked they were to read a report in September 2020 that a majority of councillors had voted through a 2.75 percent rise to their allowance “following the advice of an independent remuneration panel”.

Members of the panel have not met since 2018 and say they were were not asked to meet last year – which they say, in light of the lockdown, could have easily been carried out via a Zoom call.

As part of our investigation, News OnTheWight spoke to two members of the IRP, the Chairman and Max Morrison (former Governor of HMP Isle of Wight).

Morrison: Never our intention that we wouldn’t be consulted about it
Mr Morrison explained how they had not been asked to meet last year to discuss any recommendations about the allowance. Instead, he said, the then-interim monitoring officer, Geoff Wild, had based the recommended increase on a report from 2018.

The 2018 report from the IRP that the council officer was referring to stated:

26. Over the past few years, the panel have reported on a regular basis as a result of various changes to the council’s governance structure in order to ensure that the allowances reflect the changes. However, in the event that there are no changes there may be no need for a report every year. With that in mind, and reflecting upon comments received from members previously and our commitment to consider this in this review the panel are of the view that a form of indexation that allows an inflationary increase annually in the event that there is no separate report from the IRP is appropriate. It is recommended that the scheme be amended to include provision for an annual increase.

Mr Morrison challenged this, telling News OnTheWight,

“What they are relying on is a comment we made in 2018 which was that we were minded in future to make the councillors’ allowance increase on the basis of the staff pay increase. To give a sort of structure to it.

“But it was never our intention that we wouldn’t be consulted about it. the Chairman didn’t know anything about it.”

He went on to say,

“Courtesy would have suggested they would call and ‘say this is what we’re going to do are you content with that?’.”

Chairman: Councillors commenting on incorrect information
News OnTheWight have also spoken to the the Chairman of the Panel who explained the normal process would be for an officer of the council to approach the Chairman to see whether they need to meet.

He says no approach was made last year to call the Panel to a meeting to agree a recommended allowance rise.

“The first we knew was an article saying that the allowances for the members had been put up and it implied that we had agreed that and we had recommended that.

“We did not meet and as such, at the council meeting where that was debated, some councillors actually argued against a rise and others made comment, but they were commenting on information that was incorrect.”

Chairman: The process failed and then we were mis-represented
The Chairman of the Panel says it got worse when his members challenged it,

“In my view, a huge exercise of backfilling went on, where the Monitoring Officer said, ‘No, we looked at your report and you said this, that and other’.

“We were very clear we had said in that report we would look to align the pay rise of the staff and the allowances of the members, but that didn’t mean that was automatic. We were expecting that we would be included in the process.

“The process didn’t happen, the process failed and then we were mis-represented in the press and from then on we were told that we had resigned.”

Morrison: “A rank discourtesy”
Mr Morrison said he suspected it had been a ‘cockup’ by the interim officer, who has now been replaced by full-time monitoring officer, Christopher Potter.

“It was a rank discourtesy and when we challenged him [Mr Wild] about it, he was dismissive to such an extent that I have decided that I shall not be a member in future.”

The Chairman of the Panel said that, in his view, he thought the “monitoring officer had been lazy”, not wanting to hold a meeting. He said there was no excuse to not have the meeting.

Morrison: “Discourteous” and “disrespectful”
The Chairman also told News OnTheWight that in their last meeting they had discussed refreshing the Panel, as many had served long terms, but he said, “That didn’t mean to say we had resigned in the meeting”. He said it was quite the opposite and some of them had agreed to continue working on the Panel.

Mr Morrison also told News OnTheWight that the council were struggling to find new members for the panel.

“The new democratic services manager has said ‘We’ll have a fresh start and we hope you’ll make an application’. I said, ‘no I shall not’.

“Having been on the panel since 2012/13, I’ve done long enough but I felt the way we were treated was totally discourteous.

“We are an independent panel, if that means anything, and it’s required by law that they have an independent panel, it’s not a choice, just to ignore us and treat us in such a cavalier way I thought was disrespectful.”

The Chairman also added that the Chief Executive of the council, John Metcalfe was fully aware of everything that was going on, as he was copied into all the emails.

The IWC have recently been seeking to recruit new members to the IRP, but the application period was twice extended.

‘Told we had all resigned – when we hadn’t’
News OnTheWight has seen an email from a council officer which stated that all members had resigned from the Panel, which Mr Morrison states is not true – only one of the four members had resigned.

When asked whether he thought what had happened was legal, he replied,

“I’m not sure, when the Chairman first raised it we were told there weren’t any members of the IRP, that they had all resigned, which wasn’t true at all.”

He added,

“The problem is that they have struggled to fill vacancies or retain people for some time which is why my contract was renewed twice, and the Chairman similarly.”

Morrison: I wanted to give something back
Mr Morrison – who had previously sat as Chairman of the panel for two terms – explained why he had been willing to take on this unpaid role for so long.

“I just wanted to give something back to the Isle of Wight.

“I had the skills and that’s why I thought I could do it.”

Allowances quite low
The level of councillors’ allowances are benchmarked against other councils of a similar size in the region and based on what the council can afford. Mr Morrison told News OnTheWight,

“The Isle of Wight is by no means extravagant in its payment of allowances, it is quite low compared to some other councils.”

Adding,

“If you are after a broader representation you’ve got to provide financial support for people who are giving up their time from business, or people needing childcare. 

“It’s a compensation, it’s not a wage, it’s an allowance for the amount of time they give.”

Interviews are taking place this month for new members of the Panel.

IWC response
An Isle of Wight Council spokesperson as usual.

“In this case, the council accepted the Independent Remuneration Panel’s own recommendation to permit basic allowance to increase automatically each year in line with increases agreed for council officers under national arrangements.

“The exact wording of the indexation provision in paragraph 6 of the scheme agreed on 19 September 2018 is: “The Basic Allowance will be uplifted each year in line with the annual percentage increase agreed for the majority of Isle of Wight Council employees to whom the NJC terms and conditions apply and this will be applied once the pay settlement rate is known and will apply from April each year unless a further review of the IRP determines otherwise.”

“It is true, however, that not all members of the Independent Remuneration Panel had resigned. It has, though, no bearing on the right of the council to apply its indexation provision (recommended by the panel) in its adopted Scheme of Members’ Allowances.

“The panel did make that indexation recommendation at the time and, therefore, the correct process has been followed.”

Article edit
8.30am 2nd Feb 2021 – Link to 2018 IRP report and insertion of paragraph added. Corrected ‘raise’ to ‘rise’ in headline
9.15am 3rd Feb 2021 – ‘Set’ changed to ‘recommended’ in the headline and excerpt
2.45pm 12th Feb 2021 – Statement received 3 Feb from IWC added. Publishing delayed awaiting clarification from Monitoring Officer to News OnTheWight question. No reply after nine days, we can wait no more
4.30pm 15th Feb – Name of new MO added

Image: Robert Katzki under CC BY 2.0

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Kayt
30, May 2011 12:00 pm

Go Mick! Good Luck!

Asite2c
30, May 2011 12:32 pm

Unlike the incompetant Tory lot in County Hall, It’s pleasing to hear a potential councillor talk some forward thinking common sense.

Best of luck Mick!

daniel clarke
30, May 2011 5:15 pm

He won’t win.

Tanja Rebel
Reply to  daniel clarke
30, May 2011 5:27 pm

Won’t win? That’s a bit defeatist… Lets start creating a new future for the island which puts it on an upward spiral! It can be done – where there is a will there’s a way…

daniel clarke
Reply to  Tanja Rebel
30, May 2011 6:02 pm

Of course I’m going to say he isn’t going to win. I am a Conservative and always will be!

Simon Haytack
Reply to  daniel clarke
30, May 2011 6:18 pm

I hope the Labour candidate does win, he certainly talks a lot of sense here. Although anything but another Tory victory will be a step in the right direction. They don’t deserve a single vote after what they collectivly have done to the island.

Robbo
Reply to  Simon Haytack
31, May 2011 4:15 pm

“Anything but another Tory victory will be a step in the right direction”? I don’t think so Simon. A win for the Lib Dem, or UKIP, or the Independent will effectively offer a level of support to the Tories – especially a win for the hated Lib Dems, who under Clegg are enthusiastically supporting savage Tory cuts to local services and jobs.

No.5
Reply to  Tanja Rebel
30, May 2011 11:08 pm

it not defeatist..Danial is a Tory whip who can’t see beyond the colour blue

out of touch theconmag
Reply to  daniel clarke
30, May 2011 7:17 pm

Daniel I don’t think the Conservative candidate will win their record in power has been abysmal plenty of rhetoric very little action.They certainly wont win on merit but apathy usually rules.

Paul Miller
30, May 2011 5:44 pm

FYI
Results of all IW wards from 2009

http://www.islandconservatives.com/index.php/elections

(with apologies for the source!)

Binstead & Fishbourne
Ivan Bulwer – Conservative – 519
Ivor Warlow – Independent – 515
Tony Zeid – Lib Dem – 181

Steephill Jack
30, May 2011 6:49 pm

Best thing is to be an Independent candidate so voters don’t know exactly where you stand, but they will still vote for you because they don’t like what they’ve got now. Political parties are not democratic in local government and result in the kind of block voting we now have from the Tory councillors which ignores the results of ‘consultations’. But then, political parties are not democratic… Read more »

Patrick Joyce
30, May 2011 7:38 pm

Mike get your facts right the Independents do not support the Conservatives. For someone who hopes to reduce the Conservative majority in the Council, by standing, you will probably take votes away from the Independent and hand the ward over to the Conservatives. It seems to me Labour and the Lib Dems who have no hope of winning are trying to ensure the Independent does not get… Read more »

Don Smith
Reply to  Patrick Joyce
30, May 2011 7:53 pm

Good luck Mick – When will the electorate forget about Westminster – You are voting for local representation.

daveq
Reply to  Don Smith
31, May 2011 5:46 am

In view of the current lot at County Hall, don’t you mean misreprentation?

Don Smith
Reply to  Patrick Joyce
30, May 2011 8:00 pm

I agree with what you write Patrick.
IoW people always think Labour,Tory and the others.

It is about local issues and the sooner we forget about these Westminster tags the better.

Westminster politicians do not care a t*ss about local issues. Having said that all the best Mike.
However, Patrick has hit the nail on the head.

nick of time
Reply to  Don Smith
30, May 2011 8:32 pm

I agree with Don and Patrick. Politics should not occur down at local level but they do I’m afraid and the majority of the electorate will vote along their national thinking.

I would rather have Mick as a councillor first and a politican second.

No.5
Reply to  nick of time
30, May 2011 11:11 pm

I think this is a good ward for a local man, in opposition to our abysmal council, to stand in, which he can win..whatever colour tie he wears.

He has my support even more for his standing as a Labour candidate

Don Smith
Reply to  No.5
31, May 2011 12:32 am

No.5. Labour has a worse reputation than the Lib/Dems. at this time, and most people can only relate to labour for leaving us in such a terrible economical state, this, after being in government for so long. People forget the good things that Labour did; they [Blair] even saved the monarchy. Ninety-eight percent of ALL Westminster politician are professional politicians, they are all tarred with the same… Read more »

No.5
Reply to  No.5
31, May 2011 12:53 am

Don you are a complex poster full of negativity…on one hand you condem our council, on the other you condem the opposition..on another you call for local representation and then when it arrives condem it for its chosen party. Labour may never be a force on the Island as a whole but it can win councillors in certain well selected places on the Island and thus diminish… Read more »

Robbo
Reply to  No.5
31, May 2011 4:20 pm

Don, Don……we are only in an “economic state” because Labour bailed out the disgraceful Banks. If they hadn’t many pensioners would have lost savings and personal pensions. And what have the Tories and Lb Dems done to stop it happening again? Nothing.

Mick Lyons
Reply to  Patrick Joyce
1, June 2011 12:39 pm

Patrick, perhaps you can tell us what the Independents’ policy is on the Council cuts – however I suspect that you are probably unable to do this since there are probably 10 different policies and your own policy is stated as “I vote only in the interest of my constituents and the Town and Parish councils” – hardly an effective opposition to the Conservatives. Fortunately, we still… Read more »

Steephill Jack
Reply to  Mick Lyons
1, June 2011 9:21 pm

You just lost my vote Mick by showing, with such a silly question, that you can’t think independently yourself. Do you remember the alternative budget that the independents suggested ?

Robbo
Reply to  Steephill Jack
1, June 2011 9:28 pm

A budget that accepted most of the Tory cuts, as I recall.

And of course Steephill Jack probably hasn’t got a vote at this by-election.

Simon Haytack
Reply to  Steephill Jack
2, June 2011 12:32 am

The problem with the independents budget was that it only saved the services that made headlines, the services that you could actually see disappearing like public toilets and libraries. Vulnerable people’s services, youth services, Wightbus and other cuts were still being made. There was one budget put forward that would have really worked for the Island, and those on the Island that really need services most. That… Read more »

No.5
Reply to  Simon Haytack
2, June 2011 1:44 am

no…the problem was that it didn’t cover up for the current councils massive mis-spending and mis-management of the Island resulting in a £9million pound deficit it tried to hide behind central government cuts.

Of course these cowboys have already botched it all up, so any future budget has to take into account the catastrophe that is this Tory council

Patrick Joyce
Reply to  Mick Lyons
2, June 2011 3:10 pm

Mick the Independent budget agreed by the group and accepted by the Officers at county hall can be viwed on IOWCC website. Who voted for what budget is on the Ventnor Blog site. The Independent budget was in the interest of my constituents so I voted for it. Geoff put forward a proposal that the reserves be spent to maintain services, however he voted for the Independent… Read more »

Mick Lyons
Reply to  Patrick Joyce
3, June 2011 11:25 am

Yes, I was there, that would be the budget vote in which at least three Indepenent Councillors did not vote against the Conservative cuts, including one who previously wrote to me assuring me that “I have already stated, and indeed pledged, that I will vote against cuts to which residents of my ward are opposed”. Anyway, let me finish by saying thanks to everyone who has written… Read more »

maggoo
31, May 2011 3:44 pm

I have a dream,I have a dream!
One day local government meetings will be televised.As near as mathematically possible councillors will be elected by a majority of voters.Religion,royalty,and other ingrained divisiveness will have no part to play in the democratic decision making process.
Conviction politicians will replace todays self servers.

David Stott
31, May 2011 4:50 pm

Good luck Mick!

adrian nicholas
2, June 2011 10:56 am

Good Luck Mick? an intelligent, considered and fiercely passionate candidate committed to making local peoples concerns personally represented & championed in related community issues – such as Pell Lane, the representation of IOW people and services local as per the Fire Control centre issue and care community and local services consequences of tory iwc overzealous cuts issues in both Binstead & Ryde area. Lansleys Health ‘reforms’ must… Read more »

Patrick Joyce
Reply to  adrian nicholas
2, June 2011 2:23 pm

For the record Adrian I am an Independent hsving walked out of the Tory group because I was not prepared to be told how to vote Independents are not tory lackeys as you seem to think Ivan is equaly passionate and committed to the people of Binstead Rest assured Mike will follow party lines even if its only a party of two YOU KNOW IT MAKES SENSE… Read more »

Patrick Joyce
Reply to  Patrick Joyce
2, June 2011 2:52 pm

correction to above, Ivan Im still thinking tory
ahould be IVOR

John Power
11, September 2016 9:59 pm

Hi Mick

Are you still there?

John

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