ID Cards Needed For Isle of Wight Ferries?

Thanks to VB reader Andrew Nordbruch for sending in this comment on an article he caught sight of this afternoon. New contributions are always welcome at VB. Ed
I was passed a link to a news story on the Daily Mail’s website this afternoon, regarding new …

Thanks to VB reader Andrew Nordbruch for sending in this comment on an article he caught sight of this afternoon. New contributions are always welcome at VB. Ed

ID Cards on IOW Ferries?I was passed a link to a news story on the Daily Mail’s website this afternoon, regarding new anti-terrorism measures and the Isle of Wight.

My initial reaction was that it was an April Fool’s joke (and I still hope it is!). But it’s in today’s Mail on Sunday paper too, and it’s a bit early for an 1st April joke.

The news story states that ferry passengers on most routes in Britain will be required to produce ID when boarding. This includes ferries to the Isle of Wight and Scottish islands.

“Under new Government security rules that will come into force next year, personal data, including name, date of birth and home address, will be typed into a computer record for the police by the booking clerk or travel agent.”

The Mail article continues, “A Home Office spokesman confirmed the measures would ‘require passengers to show photo ID, such as a driving licence or the (proposed) Government ID cards, when booking tickets for domestic air and sea journeys’.”

“He added that ‘ferry journeys to the Isle of Wight or the Isle of Skye’ and ‘private jet passengers’ would be included in the new measures, due to be formally announced later this year.”

Disruption
As a regular commuter to Portsmouth (University), this would be an absolute nightmare if it were true.

The news story states that the required data would need to be keyed in manually to a computer and would impact upon check-in times. In my view, this would take such a long time to do, and I really don’t think the staff at Wightlink and Red Funnel would be able to cope. It would be even worse with coaches full of tourists at the car ferry terminals, all having to get off and go inside for ID checks.

I read a discussion online that suggested that domestic travel journeys such as these would need to be approved by the state 24 hours before traveling, although I have not verified this.

Erosion of civil liberties
Not only would this have a significant impact on journey times, but I feel this would further erode our civil liberties and give the ferry companies a good excuse to bump up the fees because of all the extra admin time involved.

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Auntie P
I regularly commute to Portsmouth (also for Uni) and suspect that the photo ID we already carry, and the fact that our names and addresses already get typed manually into WightLink’s computer each time we purchase a book of tickets would mean we’d be at the front of the queue should such a ridiculous scheme come to light. It’s the irregular passengers who would suffer (and inadvertently… Read more »
jackie hawkins

We all need to stand together and not allow the government to force this on us.

V

looks like a normal Daily Mail scam to generate opinion to me……although I support ID cards, some of this notice is nonsense

“I read a discussion online that suggested that domestic travel journeys such as these would need to be approved by the state 24 hours before traveling, although I have not verified this.”

For instance….typical Daily Mail tactic.

John
This could be a serious deterrent for tourists coming to the island, but if this sort of tracking is not being done on (say) train travellers I would have thought there would be some sort of human rights/discrimination route to challenge it. If this happens then it is a major erosion of freedom, but I find it amazing that most people don’t seem to care. I remember… Read more »
jackie hawkins
I agree with you John. I am don’t think that we should have to produce ID simply to travel on public transport whatever the mode. This is a serious erosion of liberties. I also read 1984 in 1984 and I remenber thinking that this was what was coming. I could see the signs back then. The government do have proposals for domestic travel, we will have to… Read more »
BigEars

This would constitute such a massive infraction of our civil liberties that it is much more likely that someone is having a little fun at our expense. Before civil unrest breaks out perhaps we should take stock of the facts first.

Bes
Yes, it will be another inconvenience to travelers, but at least you’ll have a better chance to get to your destination, if terrorists have other intentions. I sat at a major train station recently – absolute mayhem with luggage, knapsacks, thousands of people all different nationalaties – I wondered what security measures were taken with even their luggage etc. It’s unfortunate but I think in these times,… Read more »
Drone

Come on chaps, listen to V. This is the Daily Mail we’re talking about here.

http://bit.ly/FyBgj

James P

Just because it’s in the Daily Mail doesn’t mean it’s not true…

http://www.no2id.net/dbstate

V

It may be true in theory, but in detail the Daily Mail is renound for applying a little fantasy to suggested policy to ‘judge’ (scare) its readers into a frenzy…we willingly do so.

James P

“we willingly do so”

I’m afraid we do, to judge from Bes’s comment above. I am not blasé or dismissive of terrorism, but paranoia just helps us sleepwalk into a police state.

This lady was injured in the tube bombing, but has been one of the most vocal advocates for less state surveillance/interference. She wrote this three years ago, and it’s more true now than it was then:

http://rachelnorthlondon.blogspot.com/2006/03/give-me-liberty.html

BigEars

What a cogent and astute commentary from Rachel of North london. Worth reading.

Simon Perry

Agreed – this is well worth a read.

Her summary – “Enough. Enough I say, time to stand up to the people in this government; tell them liberty has your vote and the party who delivers it will get it. ”

I’m not sure that either of the two main parties provide any hope for this.

John

Parties, maybe not – but this is pretty much the issue that caused David Davies to resign and seek relection last year. He fought the election on opposition to “the slow strangulation of fundamental British freedoms by this government”. He was re-elected.

INSIDER

Would it be intended to stop terrorist coming to the IOW or to prevent ours from leaving?

James P

This is good for perspective, too. The author used to be an ambassador:

http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2009/03/terrorist_scare.html

Jackie Hawkins

Wow I’ve just read Rachel Norths blogspot. Very powerful and totally meaningful. I agree with what she says. If we don’t defend our liberties now then we will be fighting to get them back at some point in the future. ID cards do nothing to stop determined people planting bombs. Their only function is to monitor and record.

Stuart
I have no problem with carrying ID, but how much will this cost to introduce, and much hassle for passengers? Will it apply to the floating bridge for every schoolchild…? Hodidaymakers on pleasure trips around the needles? Water Taxis? Then Trains? Buses? How effective would it be against a determined threat? Can you imagine an IW radio news report: ‘Terrorists have overpowered floating bridge staff, have cut… Read more »
L PINKERTON

Regarding the two ferry firms: Both already hold my details from previous internet bookings and both advise that I have my licence with me to “Prove that I qualify for the Island Residents’ discounted rate”.

Simon Perry
Mike Barber
This is only the start. I ask that you give consideration to the following; Banker Bailouts These flew in the face of common sense. The wwstern world now owes more than it can ever repay. Rights Erosion Outlawed photographing police or armed forces. Draconian powers to detain without trial. Families subject to 24 hour home survelance. CCTV with AI. Councils allowed to listen phone and email without… Read more »
No.5

What is ‘just the start’?…it has proved to be incorrect…like all the other nonsense fed to the media.