IW Council Tax Increase To Be 1.89%

IW Council Tax Increase To Be 1.89%The Isle of Wight Council has set next years council tax rise at 1.89%, equivalent to an additional 42p per week for a band D property, or £21.80 per year, as reported live from the council chambers.

The package of extra services are given by the Conservative lead council are –

  • Free homecare packages for the over 80s – not depending on savings.
  • Investments in a range of schemes to improve the Island’s public realms.
  • A £3m cash boost for the Island Games.
  • Town Managers working in each of the Island’s major town.
  • Seven rebuilt or refurbished public conveniences.
  • A pledge to introduce 20mph speed limits outside as many IW schools as possible.

It is thought that this might be within the bottom three of councils in the UK – but this has yet to be confirmed.

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West Wight
19, October 2011 3:30 pm

Bonkers

Better Red than Bled
Reply to  West Wight
19, October 2011 3:40 pm

What would you do about the mess we are in then?

No.5
Reply to  West Wight
19, October 2011 3:47 pm

are the 40,000 Americans who have occupied Wall street for a fortnight bonkers as well?

paleo
Reply to  No.5
20, October 2011 10:40 am

Yup – The great unwashed – doleys, trustafarians and meja studies students…

No.5
Reply to  paleo
20, October 2011 1:52 pm

The vast majority are middle classed..a sector who under increasing pressure in the US as they are here

Luisa Hillard
Reply to  paleo
21, October 2011 9:34 pm

I am in support of this event. We must each take personal responsibility for our choices if we wish to see real change. This protest is a way to make people consider their choices, to wake us from our apathy. There’s too much bitching about things being wrong, about our dissatisfaction without the means to bring about real change. What that change should be is up for… Read more »

LowerDeckLawyer
Reply to  Luisa Hillard
21, October 2011 11:27 pm

So the answer is to all meet up and bitch together? All these protests do is just reinforce who are the masters and who are the servants. It’s Stockholm Syndrome, they abuse you and you come back for more. You’re saying to the financial centres and institutions ‘you are powerful’ ‘we are weak’, ‘we have to come to you and beg for you to change’. The best… Read more »

PAUL MULLERY
Reply to  Luisa Hillard
22, October 2011 8:27 am

Luisa, sorry to disappoint you, but LowerDeckLawyer is correct. In my time, I have been on many a protest but have come to realise that they change nothing. The problem is that they never reach critical mass for the powerful to be concerned. They know that they only have to sit it out and the protests eventually dwindle away. The protest about building a Tesco in Ryde:… Read more »

PAUL MULLERY
Reply to  No.5
20, October 2011 5:15 pm

Taking into account what most Americans get up to, I would say the majority are a penny short of a shilling! eg Psychiatrists for their dogs and cats, wooping and yelling in delight at the most pointless event. Yes, they are mostly bonkers.

Don Smith
Reply to  No.5
22, October 2011 9:34 pm

I can not understand how all these protesters afford to protest – Are they the super rich or the ones on social handouts?

As for those camping outside St Paul’s; if they were gypsies they would be moved on. They are just wasting their time; and costing others money, and disruption.

Do your protesting at the ballot box.

Don Smith
Reply to  No.5
3, November 2011 8:17 pm

Yes! Mostly dossers and bumsters. Two new words for you No.5. Most of these protesting in the UK elected the presents government. Change through the ballot box is the democratic way – Get rid of all the ex public school boys who have found a nitch for themselves as MPs and, Yes! some of their family. And please keep children out of this can’t win. useless protest.… Read more »

No.5
Reply to  Don Smith
4, November 2011 1:57 am

nonsense Don…people will only know the truth and how to vote if people demonstrate in the name of the truth.

Look at the amount of posts in response to this one demonstration..

and your use of new names in your bigoted vocabulary says more about you than it does about the people you label

Don Smith
Reply to  Don Smith
4, November 2011 8:27 am

Obviously new words to you – However, most people of average intelligence will dig the gist. Come this time next week what will have changed? I repeat, what will have changed? These protesters do not realize just how lucky they are to be living in the UK – Yes! Things have gone sky high, but we still have running tap water, electricity, a sewerage system an NHS,… Read more »

eye-land
Reply to  Don Smith
4, November 2011 9:17 am

Don you ask, “Come this time next week what will have changed? I repeat, what will have changed?” At the moment, it appears that an awful can change in a week. In fact a day can make a huge difference, as the day pre to post Papandreou “We should ask the people in an referendum” day showed. Only as recently as last week, the ‘establishment’ were dismissing… Read more »

Steephill Jack
Reply to  Don Smith
4, November 2011 9:04 pm

What happens in Athens in the next few days will be a lot more significant than what happens in Newport tomorrow.
The age of revolutions is not yet past,and this could be the first domino to fall.
Last time it was Lehman Bros. who were the first to fall.
Next time a nation, then the Euro, then…
we live in interesting times.

Ian
19, October 2011 3:46 pm

Is it any coincidence they have chosen November 5th?

The date we remember and celebrate Guido Fawkes… arguably the last person to enter Parliament with honest intentions.

LowerDeckLawyer
Reply to  Ian
19, October 2011 4:17 pm

You may have missed the point there: we don’t celebrate the man we celebrate burning him at the stake for plotting a coup to return England to a repressive catholic State.

Don Smith
Reply to  LowerDeckLawyer
22, October 2011 9:44 pm

At least with a bit of luck we just may have got rid of the hereditary monarchy. What a shower of playboys and women we have at this time living the life of Riley.

If Catholicism was bad – Just what did Henry VIII
start – Off with their heads!

When I read about the various religions; I realize that the world has been conned for centuries.

Braveheart
19, October 2011 4:08 pm

Here are a couple of links that will take you to very informative pages:-

http://www.occupytogether.org/

http://www.meetup.com/occupytogether/

LowerDeckLawyer
19, October 2011 4:15 pm

Sounds like the target is the Newport Farmers Market, that’s why 5 November has been picked! At least they’ll be able to eat delicious cheese, produce and organic goods while they rant about capitalists!

LowerDeckLawyer
Reply to  LowerDeckLawyer
19, October 2011 4:20 pm

More evidence that the real target is Newport Farmers Market (From the Facebook site): Occupy ISLE of Wight. given that county hall is shut on a saturday would St Thomas’ square be a better choice? larger space to camp, outside an 85% taxpayer owned bank (lloyds tsb), and the vicar might follow in the canon of st pauls footsteps and be supportive. Can anyone find out how… Read more »

Luisa Hillard
Reply to  LowerDeckLawyer
21, October 2011 9:20 pm

If it’s raining I may see you inside!

Don Smith
Reply to  LowerDeckLawyer
4, November 2011 8:34 am

If they can afford to purchase food from this market (Of sorts) they must be very wealthy.

I can’t afford to pay £2.80 for one chicken breast.

I always thought a farmers market was supposed to cut out the middle man:-)

Mr J
19, October 2011 4:22 pm

Perhaps they want a word with the farmers who enjoy juicy farm subsidies?

LowerDeckLawyer
Reply to  Mr J
19, October 2011 4:52 pm

Turns out the ‘organiser’ is just this one lad: http://twitter.com/#!/josepz7. Looks like his twitter feed that he doesn’t have much time for ‘the people’ he wants to stand up for if they happen to be on the bus with him! Anyway, fairplay, its his right to protest peacefully so good luck to him. I would point out though that you don’t have to be in the majority… Read more »

Margie
Reply to  Sally Perry
19, October 2011 5:27 pm

The Newport farmers market takes place on Fridays in St Thomas’ Square doesn’t it?

LowerDeckLawyer
Reply to  Margie
20, October 2011 1:22 pm

They’re getting there early to occupy the site before the farmers can even get there. Astute tactics!

Asite2c
19, October 2011 4:54 pm

I would like to see County Hall become occupied by protestors although the stink from the place would probably put them off.

Steephill Jack
19, October 2011 6:56 pm

It would be better to protest outside the Conservative Party Offices in Newport. More than half their donations last year came from investment banks and hedge-fund managers.
He who pays the piper……

mark francis
20, October 2011 10:08 am

Had Guy Fawkes succeeded the Roman Catholics would have been wiped out.

Val Acara
20, October 2011 9:11 pm

Wake up people. Take 7 minutes to watch this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RGRXCgMdz9A

adrian nicholas
20, October 2011 9:56 pm

Good luck to this protest!

Pretty obvious in rest of globe that ordinary common people rather than selected middle class stooges favoured by vested interest- are protesting at a self-serving system that preserves interest of the few at expense and consequence of the many.

LowerDeckLawyer
Reply to  adrian nicholas
20, October 2011 11:25 pm

Why all the negativity about the so called ‘middle classes’, a population that exists only in the minds of politicians and politically activists. Just about everybody in the UK is ‘middle class’! They do most of the work, pay most of the taxes, give the most to charity and do most of the voluntary work. It seems perfectly reasonable to me that if they don’t like something,… Read more »

No.5
Reply to  LowerDeckLawyer
21, October 2011 1:48 am

it is , on the whole, the middle classes who are protesting…it is they who have backed governments for the last 40 years, it is they that bought the capitalist ticket and it is they who are suffering the most now…look at the protestor In Wall Street, suits and twin sets, not a hippy in site. The very people that made it possible for governments to invent… Read more »

LowerDeckLawyer
Reply to  No.5
21, October 2011 10:12 am

By using ‘they’ are you implying you’re not a member of this group? Don’t want to criticise you too far because I think we are saying the same thing, i.e. everyone has the right to protest. By the way, what is a ‘twin set’?

Tanja Rebel
21, October 2011 8:43 am

Middle class or not – whatever your background, creed or greed (for that’s what it has been all about and not one of us in the West is exempt), lets be there on the the 5th of November and make a stand! The current system is not working and it is up to us all to create something better together. Of course, for that to really happen… Read more »

EinsteinsGhost
Reply to  Tanja Rebel
21, October 2011 9:25 am

Without wanting to let the bankers or our ‘leaders’ of the hook one iota, I totally agree. Real change can only happen from the bottom up and that in part means every individual taking responsibility and practising what they preach. It’s way to simplistic to blame all of this 1% and pretend the other 99% (you, me, us) are the poor lilly-white and innocent victims of all… Read more »

Asite2c
21, October 2011 9:18 am

Terms such as upper, middle and lower class are totally meaningless and should have no place in today’s society.

Whether rich or poor, we are all human beings and in my opinion comparing and putting people into class structures is similar to a tribal way of thinking.

LowerDeckLawyer
Reply to  Asite2c
21, October 2011 10:16 am

Absolutely. Incidentally these artificial class dividing lines are pretty much limited to the UK. The rest of the world moved on from this at the turn of the last century. So should we.

PAUL MULLERY
21, October 2011 11:03 am

Tanja and Einstein are correct. Everyone is culpable in this mess due to personal greed. It has been forgotten that we are producers as well as consumers. I use farmers as an example but not having a go at farmers specifically. Farmers complain that we do not buy British, preferring New Zealand lamb, Australian beef, Danish bacon and butter or Dutch bacon as examples. They organise a… Read more »

playingthenumbers
Reply to  PAUL MULLERY
21, October 2011 12:42 pm

Tanja, Einstein & Paul are correct. All the talk is about banks, GDP, the EU & trade etc, but how much talk is about the human capital or democracy? If a fraction of the energy spent on arranging the apparatus to facilitate trade was spent on thinking how it will affect ordinary people, we might not be in this mess. I think many people are realizing that… Read more »

Tanja Rebel
21, October 2011 4:08 pm

Dr Who hits the nail on the head: Greed is part of human nature and as long as we don’t deal with it in ourselves we will keep the shallow politicians, greedy bankers and general global havoc that we see before us now. This does NOT mean that we shouldn’t make a stand on the 5th of November – inner change and outer action can go hand… Read more »

JohnC
21, October 2011 4:18 pm

In a democracy,it is a right to protest at what is wrong.However,on the Island I do not think this will make any difference. It does not hinder those in charge of the purse strings and they have no intent to change the status quo. Really,it is the national and international Governments who should be pressurised. Much more beneficial to the health would be to go for a… Read more »

Esther Cowsley
22, October 2011 6:58 pm

YOU are all the 99%! The 1% are a small oligarchical group of families that own the central banks, the corporations and pull the strings of the puppets in government who they funded into power, the class divide of the masses is irrelevant to this movement. We live in the illusion of democracy and the illusion is starting to crumble. In true democracy we would all have… Read more »

Steephill Jack
Reply to  Esther Cowsley
22, October 2011 8:24 pm

There was a book I read by a guy who stayed in Ventnor back in the 1880’s: ‘Das Capital’.
It seemed to me that he had identified the cause of these problems but I’m not sure that he came up witrh the right solution.
Any ideas out there ?

no.5
Reply to  Esther Cowsley
22, October 2011 8:44 pm

snore………………its this kind of fantasy that desuades people from taking part in protests for fear of being lumped in with eccentricts, fantasists and conspiracy theorists. There doesn’t need to be a propaganda campaign against…you do a great job.

The simple reality, without the fantasy, is that government and capitalism are failing

Esther Cowsley
Reply to  no.5
22, October 2011 8:57 pm

Yes no.5 the government and capitalism ARE failing.

eh?
Reply to  Esther Cowsley
22, October 2011 9:09 pm

oh please. The government are not failing and neither are capitalisim. Even in 1929 there was recovery after the great depression. No system which promotes doing what is best for yourself will ever fail. Greed is human nature, and the reason capitalism works is because we all dream that one day we will be the one capitalism works for, and we will make our millions. Communisim was… Read more »

Bob
Reply to  eh?
22, October 2011 9:24 pm

If you think that communism has failed take a look at China and you should then have a huge rethink. Who has the bulk of the world wealth and is looking to bail out the EU and the states…oh yes that would be China……

Esther Cowsley
Reply to  eh?
22, October 2011 9:25 pm

OK, apparently my views are a bit too out there for some, and that’s fine, everyone is entitled to an opinion. I certainly don’t condone communism as the answer. The swiss use direct democracy, which makes more sense to me than our system in which so many people feel disenfranchised that they can’t see the point in voting. Lets face it, if the Councillors such as Edward… Read more »

No.5
Reply to  eh?
23, October 2011 3:04 am

a system that promotes doing what is best for the self will always fail….I have no problems with capitalism….just the demented perverse route ours has taken…thanks to government and banks

PAUL MULLERY
23, October 2011 8:27 am

There is basically nothing wrong with communism. The big problem is that greed came first and you can’t run a state on communism where the population is greedy: each wants more than the other. The classic example is gambling and the National Lottery which is basically a “something for nothing” mentality. With respect to Russia, communism didn’t work there, not because of the system but because the… Read more »

witchfinder general
23, October 2011 8:44 am

I’ve had it with this government, They started out with the idea of the ‘Big Society’ we’re all in it together, you can have your say, basically power to the people. But hang on, whoa there, just a minute son. Not the EEC, not the fuel prices, not the wayward bankers or anything else that will affect our money grabbing ways. In fact if you really want… Read more »

daft old duffer
Reply to  witchfinder general
23, October 2011 9:38 am

Anyone who thinks China is a communist state is living on the wrong planet. The fact is that the leaders of China realised that wholesale communism was not working and being among the most common sense folk in the world began to loosen the strings,fist by forming a ‘free city that could and did trade with Hong Kong,then by rapidly expanding into what is now an openly… Read more »

EinsteinsGhost
Reply to  daft old duffer
23, October 2011 9:51 am

Quite true – The Tiannamen Square protests and subsequent massacre they may have survived but it still put the fear of god up them. The opening of markets and embracing capatalism – on their terms – was the trade-off to keep people quiet. And its worked. A still oppressed populace but largely kept docile by greater access to greed and ‘stuff’. A bloke once said ‘Religion is… Read more »

playingthenumbers
Reply to  daft old duffer
24, October 2011 1:42 pm

Another red herring, China doesn’t do communism any more, its mercantilism. The rights and wrongs of which are irrelevant here, except that the Chinese gov. (elected or not) is pursuing policies that it considers to be in its own national interest. NOT allowing or exposing it citizenry to too much of the harsh winds of market forces. Of course market forces allow the usual parasites to feed… Read more »

Steve Goodman
Reply to  playingthenumbers
24, October 2011 3:40 pm

P.- Good points as usual. I’d like to add the reminder that the Chinese are also very aware of the urgent issue of unsupportable population growth. There are already too many of us; it is not only impossible for us all to live the lives enjoyed by the most fortunate now, but also way past the time we should have adjusted to the impossibility of unlimited growth… Read more »

playingthenumbers
Reply to  Steve Goodman
24, October 2011 6:40 pm

Absolutely – I too personally hope that ‘occupy’ expose the fundamental, structural issues of our time to a wider audience. One such issue, the falling birth rate across Europe although welcome in terms of using finite resources is not being replicated globally. (The European rate is 1.2 children per couple – a rate of 2.1 children is needed to replace the existing population). This pressurizes other things… Read more »

Tanja Rebel
24, October 2011 8:26 am

“Nike, Apple and McDonalds”, yes, we have created a new God – It’s called The Market. Politicians, bankers, ordinary people, we all venerate it and it has become our main focus in life – voluntarily or involuntarily. No new “ism” can turn this around as long as we don’t look at the (potential for) greed that is in each one of us. Take China for example: This… Read more »

Mimir
25, October 2011 10:23 am

I certainly will be there if I’m not working that day. I presume there setting up camp like the other occupies so even if I cant make it 5th nov I’ll be there after. The problem isn’t that capitalism isn’t working but that corporatism isn’t working. We stopped being capitalist a long while back. The system is collapsing under the weight of its own corruption and it… Read more »

witchfinder general
28, October 2011 1:08 pm

Well you’ve all heard the news today, the fatcats are still lining their pockets, living on the backs of the workers. Wage rises are kept down so companies make more money, not kept down to be competative but to make bigger profits. The managers then get a bonus for making a bigger profit. No thankyou to the workers who make the profits, they can go and take… Read more »

Asite2c
Reply to  witchfinder general
28, October 2011 1:20 pm

It should be “They’re in it together”. A pigssty of greedy big businessmen, bankers and politicians with their snouts in the trough.

PAUL MULLERY
28, October 2011 2:22 pm

Anyone who falls for the “all in this together” scenario must be short on grey matter. During the first world war we had the “your country needs you” Working class lads up and down Britain joined the army in response to the call. What were the sons of the rich doing? Sent off to Canada or USA out of harm’s way If they were unfortunate enough to… Read more »

Mr Justice
28, October 2011 4:00 pm

Be fair, it’s not just businessmen and politicians is it? People working at the top in local government don’t seem to be suffering either. Our own PFI crew are making small fortunes. Man at the top, Steve Beynon is trousering £150,000 a year, his sidekick in accounts, Dave Burbage Ltd gets almost as much, PLUS he pays tax at the corporation tax rate, PLUS his big pension… Read more »

Occupyiow
28, October 2011 8:53 pm

The support here is wonderful and exactly the dialogue that is at heart of the movement.We are all taking part in perhaps the greatest and most noble movement in the history of modern man, never before have so many people stood up over the globe for a common cause. Please remember this is YOUR movement, it is not being organised by any one group, your voice matters!… Read more »

Bob Blake
2, November 2011 6:45 pm

The ministrations of County Hall are a drop in the ocean compared to the real people and problems that have got us in this mess. Capitalism has become perverted with commodity and currency trading. Furthermore, commodity trading is immoral, artificially increasing the price of life’s essentials to line the pockets of middle men. It’s these people and the merchant bankers who need to be protested to.

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