Moazzam Begg, Former Guantanamo Bay Prisoner: Talk Review and Interview (podcast)

Moazzam Begg Interview At The ApolloIt’s not every day that you get to write an article about a former Guantanamo Bay inmate coming to the Isle of Wight.

Near the start of May, Moazzam Begg came to the Island, in response to an invite from Rachel Bridgeland to speak to an audience. How many would make up the audience wasn’t clear, even up to the evening of the event.

It turned out there was a capacity crowd, with I understand, people having to be turned away at Newport’s Apollo theatre when Moazzam Begg, now director of Caged Prisoners, came to speak.

He’s an accomplished speaker with an easy delivery, but you can’t help but wonder how he seems to be so calm and unembittered, given what he described of his experiences.

Snatched at gun point in Pakistan
During the talk, he laid out his background, including time in spent in Afghanistan doing what he described as charity work at a school.

When the US & UK went into Afghanistan, he left for Pakistan with his family. It was at his house there in 2002 that he was taken at gun point, forced to leave his wife and three children, by what he described as ‘polite’ local forces.

It was after his handover to American forces that things appeared to have become considerably less polite.

Guantanamo not the worst
Surprisingly he said his worst experiences weren’t in Guantanamo Bay, but were before he arrived there during the eleven months at the Bagram Theater Internment Facility in Afghanistan. It sounded horrific.

He described intense interrogation, including sleep deprivation and extended periods of prisoners being forced to stand at full stretch, with wire attached to the ceiling pulled tight around their wrists. He having to stand on tip toes, as this was the only real method to lessen the pain.

Later, details of the process of waterboarding were given, but fortunately he didn’t undergo this, although hearing him talk about a woman screaming – who he thought was his wife – in the cell next to him, was chilling to the point where the constant solitary confinement at Guantanamo seem desirable.

He also detailed his experience of watching a fellow prisoner being abused so badly that he ended up dying from the injuries that the American soldiers inflicted on him.

Now living in England having been released with no specific charges against him, Moazzam Begg now leads a life as a director of Caged Prisoners.

Stimulating
Although the material was clearly disturbing, it was a thoroughly interesting talk with a stimulating Q&A. If you get a chance to listen to him, I’d definitely recommend it.

I must admit, due to not having the time, I did go along to the evening without reading up about Moazzam Begg, somewhat breaking a normal rule of preparation. Very slack, but unavoidable.

I don’t think that my nothing-but-positive impression of Begg would have been any different if I had read the Wikipedia text about him which contained a list of alleged facts that were compiled for the military tribunal, to decided whether he should be classified as an “enemy combatant”.

Of course, sadly it’s not just wikipedia text that we don’t know if we can trust any more. Alleged facts without a prosecution are no longer facts, just alleged.

The evening with Moazzam Begg was strangely positive. If someone can endure that treatment he described at the hands of what we think of as civilised nations – and remain as a functioning member of society – I think there’s hope for us all.

WightEye take
I had the pleasure of meeting WightEye during the evening, as well as other interesting people. He did the right thing and wrote his views with no delay after the event and it’s well worth reading.

The Apollo
I’d never been to The Apollo before. What a gem that place is. Return visits plans are being hatched.

Interview
VB got the chance to catch up with Moazzam Begg after the talk, where we touched on such important things as the dinosaurs on the Island and a number of other subjects including the perceived speed of the apparent erosions of our civil liberty happening in the UK.

It’s interesting to hear today the section about the lack of accountability of politicians and how it appears all the more relevant, just a month and an half after its recording.

If there’s a demand, we’ve also got a recording of the full talk that we could host. [audio:http://otw-audio.s3.amazonaws.com/moazzam-begg-interview-may-2009.mp3] While we recorded these was some banging in the background as the set builders at the Apollo were working late – living by the moto “the show must go on.”

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No.5
23, May 2009 2:01 pm

The man has supported terrorism by his own admission and has never retracted the fact. He has my utter sympathy for his in-humane and barbaric treatment following his arrest. However, no terrorist supporter should be allowed such a platform, without first excusing his past…after all we now have to accept Gerry Adams as an elected official, so people can change. I have made my opinion clear on… Read more »

wighteye
Reply to  No.5
24, May 2009 12:45 pm

How and where has he supported terrorism? How do you know this? At his talk in Newport he did not put forward this view. What is clear is the use of torture techniques by western states including the USA and UK either directly or through the use of proxy states. In my view the use of violence by any party does not solve the underlying issues.

No.5
Reply to  wighteye
24, May 2009 2:19 pm

“but a police search of his home reportedly found night vision goggles, a bulletproof vest, and extremist Islamic literature. His family insist that he was collecting such items as a hobby” “He had travelled to Afghanistan and Bosnia and attempted to travel to Chechnya, and fully acknowledges giving financial support for Muslim combatants, but insists that he never took a combat role for himself” “Yet in 2000,… Read more »

wighteye
Reply to  No.5
24, May 2009 2:49 pm

Oh well, No.5, he must be guilty then! How come he’s not been charged?

No.5
Reply to  wighteye
24, May 2009 4:59 pm

how comes Gerry Adams is an MP?

As stated I abhore the way he was treated…I also Abhor people that fuel terrorism..by his own admission, this man does.

No matter what his credentials, without a denial or retraction, this man should not be provided a platform.

wighteye
23, May 2009 6:31 pm

A fascinating interview, Simon, any more?

Rachel Bridgeland
24, May 2009 9:06 pm

It’s good to see such excellent coverage of the talk. The County Press have published a couple of letters, but turned down the opportunity of interviewing Moazzam Begg – because he isn’t from the Isle of Wight! All 131 seats in the theatre were filled and around 8 people had to be turned away. As the population of the Island is 130,000, this means that 1 in… Read more »

robbo
Reply to  Rachel Bridgeland
25, May 2009 11:22 am

Congratulations on the Moazzem Begg interview and boo to County Press for not reporting it. I was one turned awy because there were no places but I went because I understand no charges were brought against Mr. Begg. If someone is not charged, how can they be guilty? Free speech, I say, and no vilification without good reason. Well done the organisers.

Rachel Bridgeland
Reply to  robbo
25, May 2009 11:37 am

Hi Robbo – I’m so sorry you were turned away from the talk. We did our best to collect names so that I could write afterwards and apologise – and also make sure that you would hear of any future events. If you’d like to give me your details, I expect Ventnorblog will pass them on if you’d like them to. Re. future events – we don’t… Read more »

No.5
Reply to  robbo
25, May 2009 3:21 pm

he is guilty by confession..these words are from his own mouth, he has never denied being a terrorist info peddler. is it free speech which allows such material to be published and distributed. This man has never recanted or denied these accusation and it is people such as him doing so, that helps the Muslim community against its minority extremists. By not recanting he is further feeding… Read more »

wighteye
Reply to  No.5
25, May 2009 8:27 pm

Ah…terrorists…are we talking state sponsored terrorism or individual acts?…I hate all violence whether perpetrated by the 9/11 hijackers or state invasions of other nation states without United Nations agreement. I think the Blair/Bush/Rumsfeld/Cheney quartet need to answer a few more questions than Moazzam Begg!

No.5
Reply to  wighteye
25, May 2009 8:45 pm

Why?

Who are you more likely to get an answer from?

Rachel Bridgeland
25, May 2009 4:33 pm

I joined the Comments section a little late to respond directly to No.5. However, he/she has raised some interesting points on the question of free speech. As the theatre was filling up, more than one person alerted me to the fact that there were 3 men in the queue, one with a union jack T-shirt, who they felt might be going to cause a disturbance. Everyone is… Read more »

Su Stephens
Reply to  Rachel Bridgeland
25, May 2009 5:13 pm

Since 1949 (when Jews living in Palestine executed 13,000 Palestinians and formed the state of Israel) the USA has given Israel £100 billion in military and economic aid and – following Israel’s devastation of Gaza in January – President Obama has actually increased the annual amount of military aid that Israel receives. This demonstrates how America rewards one set of terrorists whilst demonising others. It is, of… Read more »

Dennis Sibley
25, May 2009 5:05 pm

Thanks for your thoughtful and knowledgeable response to No.5
I bothered to read Moazzam’s own account of his experiences rather than rely on Wikipedia, before attending his talk. I was much impressed by his dignity and integrity.
No 5’s naive view that if you confess under torture then you must be guilty says’s more about No.5 than it does about Moazzam Begg.

No.5
Reply to  Dennis Sibley
25, May 2009 8:50 pm

an interview in a national paper is hardly confessing under torture. The man ran a book shop that sold terrorist litrature…this is a fact he acknowledges. Not one issue posted by me has anything to do whith what happened whilst he was imprisoned. My worry is what he has done of his own accord and what he has refused to condem. I don’t think it is me… Read more »

No.5
25, May 2009 5:46 pm

nice reply and I thank you for it. Freedom of speach is a requirement of civilised nations….to advocate terrorism is an abuse of freedom of speech as much as gagging someone is. I am fully aware of the actions of western forces in Palastine and in Afganistan and have been actievley opposed against as well as actievely opposing more home grown extremists (BNP). This does not excuse… Read more »

No.5
25, May 2009 5:47 pm

terrible spelling…a good dose of flu

veritas
Reply to  No.5
25, May 2009 9:20 pm

A good dose of prejudice methinks!

No.5
Reply to  veritas
26, May 2009 1:20 pm

just shows how wrong you can be……………….I am prejudice…against fools, bigots and racists

wighteye
Reply to  No.5
26, May 2009 8:13 am

Hey No5, we agree on something…that’s the start of consensus!

No.5
Reply to  wighteye
26, May 2009 1:20 pm

Which part :-)

steve s
26, May 2009 8:24 am

And consensus is a very good thing! ;-)

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