Report of First New Isle of Wight Council Meeting

In lieu of our inability to attend the first full council meeting last night (due to birthday celebrations), Cllr Geoff Lumley has kindly forwarded us his report of the evening.

Rather than us pick out particular items of interest (there are many), we thought it best to reproduce Geoff’s words as posted to his own blog. Ed

Report of First Full Isle of Wight Council MeetingJust back from the first Full meeting of the new IW Council, leaving the rest to have a drink with the ‘new’ Chairman. A Chairman who is the same as before, Arthur Taylor (Con) – who only I voted against as no one satisfactorily explained to me why the one-year only rule was being ignored. Nothing personal !

So time for a quick report…………

Other people elected on the night were Ian Stephens (Ind) as Vice Chair of the Council (with my support); David Pugh as Leader FOR 4 YEARS (!) – with only me against; Overview & Scrutiny Chair – Vanessa Churchman(Ind), with a Tory-controlled committee; Planning Chair – Ivan Bulwer (Con); Audit Chair – Roger Mazillius (Con); 4 x Scrutiny Panel Chairs (all Tory-controlled) – George Cameron (Con), Childrens Services; David Whittaker (Con) – Adult Care, Housing & Health; Ian Ward (Con) – Economy, Environment & Transport; and Margaret Webster (Con) – Fire & Community Safety. The Tories offered the Adult Care one to the opposition, but no one from the independent or Liberal group was interested. I wouldn’t touch these with a bargepole……I’ve learnt my lesson about this leadership

The Leader announced his new Cabinet. Basically the 5 re-elected ones from the last one, with some portfolio changes, and 2 new ones – Peter Bingham (Resources) and Edward Giles (Environment & Transport). And the Leader is going to lead on Schools Reorganisation………..

My motion on this Council adopting a Member’s Allowance scheme that will be recommended by an Independent Remuneration Panel was accepted by the leadership in its entirety, eventually – thanks to Cllr George Brown (Con, Deputy Leader) !!!!!!!! The 5 LibDems were the only ones against, as they prefer to keep allowances as a Member’s decision.

My motion on ending Prayers predictably went down with 33 against and 5 in favour. I won’t name the other 4 as is my usual practice on votes as this is a personal matter, but thanks to them all.

Bolding of words is Geoff’s own. You can read more from him over at his blog

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Cllr Chris Whitehouse
18, September 2014 9:02 am

Thanks for running this. To explain, it had to be moved as an amendment to a Motion that had already been tabled because the announcement of this new position for Cllr Stephens was made so late (intentionally?) that it was not permissible to put down new Motions for debate at Full Council…. but it will be put down for the next Full Council!

Chris Whitehouse

stephen
Reply to  Cllr Chris Whitehouse
18, September 2014 10:26 am

Surely these words from Cllr Stephen’s statement illustrate the benefits to the Island’s economy of his appointment. I look forward to representing the Island’s views to the board, learning more about how these pressures are being addressed in other authorities and in ensuring the voice of these mainly discretionary services is not lost in the noise of the austerity agenda.” Looks like the benefits of decent consultancy… Read more »

Cynic
Reply to  Cllr Chris Whitehouse
18, September 2014 10:59 am

Aaaaaarghhh! I am in danger of agreeing with CW! :-))

Stewart Blackmore
Reply to  Cllr Chris Whitehouse
18, September 2014 2:29 pm

That’s absolute rubbish. Any amendment must be relevant to the body of the Motion and this clearly was not and any Chair worth their salt would have stopped you in mid-sentence.

It was a clearly personal attack on Ian Stephens, carelessly disguised.

Whitewasher
Reply to  Cllr Chris Whitehouse
18, September 2014 7:15 pm

Cllr Whitehouse, You must be jumping for joy. You knew full well that this amendment would be rejected – but that doesnt matter to you, does it. All you wanted was to get it reported. All you wanted was to get it mentioned and cause a ruckus in full council. And you got exactly what you wanted, because you are actually a fairly good politician. Do not… Read more »

Peter Daws
18, September 2014 9:27 am

All IW Councillors, Indy, Tory or otherwise, please be aware that some of this picking holes and pickering is starting to look very amateurish for those of us on the outside. Please try and rain yourselves in and stop it now before it decends in to farse. You’re doing a pretty good job, given task before you, but if you’re not careful this good work will become… Read more »

DH
Reply to  Peter Daws
18, September 2014 10:47 am

And some councillors are only there because they applied and represented parishes that were a certain win for them because of previously discredited councillors. Allegedly.

davidwalter
18, September 2014 10:55 am

Peter Daws — You don’t think that a paid directorship for the Leader of the Council, a leader who reminds us constantly that he works for us 7 days a week until late at night, is legitimate public interest? Or does he do no work for his £15,000? I don’t understand why Cllr Stephens didn’t declare it himself. Why did it take Cllr Whitehouse to use such… Read more »

Peter Daws
Reply to  davidwalter
18, September 2014 11:06 am

It’s all in the public domain, no news just point scoring. Childish.

Stewart Blackmore
Reply to  davidwalter
18, September 2014 2:33 pm

David, you were sat beside me and I heard Ian Stephens report in which he referred to his LGA post himself.

Please don’t try to defend Cllr. Whitehouse’s shameless behaviour.

davidwalter
Reply to  Stewart Blackmore
18, September 2014 3:37 pm

Stewart — I’m not defending Cllr Whitehouse. I’m thanking him. Before his disclosure I wasn’t aware that Cllr Stephens had taken a paid job with the LGA, had you? The report you refer to is presumably http://www.iwight.com/Meetings/committees/mod-council/17-9-14/Executive%20Reports/01%20-%20Cllr%20Stephens.pdf and no mention is made of payment. I have a FOI request in with the LGA waiting to be told how much the LGA were paid by the Isle of… Read more »

Food for Thought
Reply to  davidwalter
18, September 2014 3:51 pm

David, if you care to read the Bob Blezzard Resigns article the last two comments refer to the Leader and the LGA. Those of us who have been Councillors in the past put 2 and 2 together and they added up to 4. Can I offer one further comment? You seem to like FOI requests, Do you realise the amount of officer time taken in these requests… Read more »

Cynic
Reply to  Food for Thought
18, September 2014 3:54 pm

Stick with the FoIs David if you want verifiable facts protected by legislation rather than political opinion.

Food for Thought
Reply to  Food for Thought
18, September 2014 4:04 pm

@Cicero, yes FOI’s will give you the official version but talking to those at the “coal face” is more likely to give the true version. FOI’s should only be used as a last resort.

Cynic
Reply to  Food for Thought
18, September 2014 4:14 pm

Interesting question, pensioner-should one trust what professional civil servants say in response to a statutory that can be challenged or what politicians say?

[I know from experience that asking a Parliamentary Question makes civil servants squirm to find the facts that the questioner will verify and politicians look for escape routes.]

davidwalter
Reply to  Food for Thought
18, September 2014 6:22 pm

Pensioner – {David, if you care to read the Bob Blezzard Resigns article the last two comments refer to the Leader and the LGA.} What’s that got to do with Cllr Stephens taking a paid position with the LGA? No remuneration is mentioned or even hinted at. {Those of us who have been Councillors in the past put 2 and 2 together and they added up to… Read more »

Food for Thought
Reply to  Food for Thought
19, September 2014 10:44 am

@David. 1. The inference from the article mentioned to you was enough information from those with experience to know this LGA post was going to receive remuneration. 2. Transparency, (what a lovely word that covers a multitude of things), does not come into it. Soon you will be asking, in the spirit of transparency of course, what the Leader ate for breakfast and how long he took… Read more »

Stewart Blackmore
Reply to  davidwalter
18, September 2014 4:17 pm

I have absolutely no argument with Cllr. Stephens being paid by the LGA; at least the sourcing of its funding is transparent, unlike the outfit that David Pugh now works for selling his ‘expertise’ (sic) in education.

martin william wareham
Reply to  Stewart Blackmore
18, September 2014 5:57 pm

Excellent comments from Stewart Blackmore of the declared candidates for the the Island seat Stewart is head and shoulders above the rest.

davidwalter
Reply to  Stewart Blackmore
18, September 2014 6:38 pm

Stewart – I have just had my reply to my FOI to the LGA. You’ll find it at https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/228146/response/563173 The interesting (to me) point is that Members involved in these Corporate Peer Challenges are paid a day rate fee. The system will probably let you see my follow-up – I have asked a number of questions in particular the amount of day rate fees. Depending on the… Read more »

davidwalter
Reply to  Stewart Blackmore
18, September 2014 7:02 pm

pensioner — “@Cicero, yes FOI’s will give you the official version but talking to those at the “coal face” is more likely to give the true version. FOI’s should only be used as a last resort.” No, no, no. That is what I thought at first but I asked at the “coal face” as you put it and was told that FOIs are easier. Incidentally, on a… Read more »

tryme
Reply to  Stewart Blackmore
18, September 2014 8:58 pm

Glad he doesn’t lose any sleep from having bumped us into the Iraqui war, then pensioner. But darn those FOIs!

Food for Thought
Reply to  Stewart Blackmore
18, September 2014 9:16 pm

Do grow up Tryme, David Walter made comment about Tony Blair not me. His comment was an aside. You really should think before you press the comment button. You do let your views and opinions run wild sometimes. Did your teachers ever manage to shut you up at school?

tryme
Reply to  Stewart Blackmore
18, September 2014 9:25 pm

Even grown-ups make mistakes, pensioner, (I redirect my comment to David).

Otherwise – keep your hair on!

Food for Thought
Reply to  Stewart Blackmore
18, September 2014 9:31 pm

I don’t have much hair to keep on!

tryme
Reply to  Stewart Blackmore
19, September 2014 7:16 am

My point entirely!

Robert Jones
Reply to  davidwalter
18, September 2014 9:58 pm

There is no conflict of interest at all in this case: if you doubt that, ask the council’s legal officer. It simply doesn’t apply.

Stewart Blackmore
Reply to  Robert Jones
18, September 2014 10:58 pm

Thankfully I’m going to the relative sanity of the Labour Party conference tomorrow Robert – no headcases there!!

Can ye no hear the pipes…………

Cynic
Reply to  Robert Jones
19, September 2014 9:33 am

Do the country a favour Stewart: please vote in a new Leader for your party and dump the quasi-Tory Blairiter policies.

Robert Jones
Reply to  davidwalter
18, September 2014 10:00 pm

It was declared.

The Sciolist
18, September 2014 10:59 am

What it with these people?

They seem to get get a feint sniff of power and change. The LGA appointment is wrong for the Island. They keep telling us that we are in a budget crisis, so having the leader off on several jolly’s is unhelpful.

The extra £15,000 a year in his wage packet must be very helpful?

Cynic
Reply to  The Sciolist
18, September 2014 11:08 am

As I suggested elsewhere in OTW recently “Politics and ambition go hand in hand”- but somebody did not like me mentioning it! :-))

Cynic
Reply to  Cynic
18, September 2014 12:37 pm

Looks like some others don’t either! :-)

Cynic
Reply to  Cynic
18, September 2014 2:05 pm

“Men rise from one ambition to another. first they seek to secure themselves from attack and then they attack others”
(Niccolo Machiavelli)

tryme
Reply to  Cynic
18, September 2014 9:18 pm

Don’t be so self-absorbed as to keep telling us about your down-arrows, Cicero .. please …

Cynic
Reply to  Cynic
19, September 2014 9:28 am

You balance it Tryme in schoolmarm fashion by your Pavlovian school-marmish telling me off rach time I do! :-)

However,I like the Barney McGew’s comment ” that the higher the red minus score comments receive the closer the truth.” so I won’t point out the down-arrows in future.

Cynic
Reply to  Cynic
19, September 2014 9:29 am

Ooops! one schoolmarm to many in the above. :-)

tryme
Reply to  Cynic
19, September 2014 8:59 pm

By calling me a “schoolmarm”, Cicero, always an insulting stereotype of a woman, and saying I am “Pavlovian”, thus denying there is any thought in what I say, you give a hostile response which no amount of smiley faces disguises.

Cynic
Reply to  Cynic
20, September 2014 8:30 am

And “self-absorbed” and other words you have used to describe my motivations are inot hostile, tryme?

[However, I withdraw and apologise for “schoolmarm” and “Pavlovian” and would like to replace those words. with “An apparent automatic need to police and castigate Cicero whenever he/she refers to down-arrows.” ]

Better? I await a similar apology from you.

tryme
Reply to  Cynic
20, September 2014 10:32 am

I don’t think, Cicero, that I have dressed up hostile remarks with smiley faces and happy exclamation marks, have I? That was my main beef. Be straightforward about your hostility. And have I called you a ‘name’, moreover one that is an unpleasant stereotype? Describing how one comes across in a particular post (eg. ‘self absorbed’) is a different matter, and is something we all do here.… Read more »

tryme
Reply to  Cynic
20, September 2014 10:37 am

I note you don’t like me mentioning how you react to down-arrows, but no, it is not a “need” of mine, (again, an unwarrantedly personal way of putting it): it is my view, after a lot of experience of what you do.

Cynic
Reply to  Cynic
20, September 2014 10:42 am

OK Pax!

Barney McGrew
Reply to  Cynic
18, September 2014 6:34 pm

Cicero, I always believe that the higher the red minus score comments receive the closer the truth. There are those that find openness, transparency and clarity difficult concepts to cope with.

Robert Jones
Reply to  The Sciolist
18, September 2014 9:48 pm

I daresay it is; I’d quite like something similar. But he’s not going to get it for nothing, is he? WHY is this appointment “wrong for the island”? We’re not paying him to be here every day of his working life; I really doubt that it would make the slightest difference if he were. I gave a great deal of my time to the chairmanship of Medina… Read more »

tryme
Reply to  Robert Jones
18, September 2014 10:15 pm

Very well said. It is good news that although we are often told (by Islanders) that Council staff are sub-standard, here is evidence that Cllr Stephens is held in esteem off-Island. I’m sure he will make the most of the opportunity to bring advantage to the Island. Presumably CW can’t imagine how Cllr Stephens will possibly cope as Leader without plotting 7 days a week on the… Read more »

davidwalter
18, September 2014 11:12 am

Peter Daws — Was it in the public domain? Where?

davidwalter
Reply to  Peter Daws
18, September 2014 7:35 pm

Peter Daws — We were talking about the specific payment for the LGA, the one Cllr Whitehouse brought to light last night, £15,000. I can’t see it on there. Can you drill down that link and show me where it is, if it is? Thanks.

mike starke
18, September 2014 11:17 am

In order to try to save Cllr Chris Whitehouse further embarrassment and to try to forestall yet another council meeting enduring more politically opportunistic hot air than cold facts, I offer the following: “Profound concern” of the kind expressed by Cllr Whitehouse over a council leader having paid part-time employment outside council duties should not be new, if this concern is genuine and consistent. Although I cannot… Read more »

Colin
Reply to  mike starke
18, September 2014 12:11 pm

@mike starke

It’s worth anybody’s time to have a look at the Cratus website and a read up at what they are about.

quote from their website “We leave nothing to chance. Every project involves research, ongoing monitoring and discreet advice, to whatever extent is required to help secure the right outcome.” unquote

Scary.

Steephill Jack
Reply to  mike starke
18, September 2014 5:14 pm

If Cllr. Whitehouse became Leader of the Council [!!!] would he give up running a business as a PR consultant ?

Robert Jones
18, September 2014 12:19 pm

Island councillors, and councillors from all local authorities, have always sat on national boards and committees: it widens and enhances their experience. The leader’s presence 24 hours a day on the Isle of Wight is not possible, feasible, or desirable. A complication is introduced perhaps by the fact that this is a paid position, which the majority of outside appointments in the past were not; however, I… Read more »

Stewart Blackmore
Reply to  Robert Jones
18, September 2014 2:36 pm

Nail on the head, Robert!

tryme
Reply to  Robert Jones
18, September 2014 9:04 pm

You got it!

retired Hack
18, September 2014 1:32 pm

It would be perfectly possible to have a debate about whether it’s a good idea for Cllr Stephens to take this position without degenerating into the kind of half-truths and nastiness in which Cllr Whitehouse specialises. Apart from Sally’s well-placed “fact check” regarding Stephens’s IWC allowance, there is also an entirely unsubstantiated suggestion that the Leader somehow timed his announcement to frustrate public scrutiny. For heaven’s sake,… Read more »

Cllr Chris Whitehouse (Newport West Ward)
Reply to  retired Hack
18, September 2014 5:49 pm

It was indeed in his Report, which is published after the deadline has passed for putting down Motions, when he’d known about it for some time. So much for openness & transparency!

Robert Jones
Reply to  Cllr Chris Whitehouse (Newport West Ward)
18, September 2014 9:26 pm

Hang on, Chris: I mean, REALLY, hang on – what point are you making here? That he didn’t tell you soon enough, or that his appointment was inherently undesirable? I don’t for a moment suppose that he thought his appointment would be contentious – and why, exactly, is it? Do you not want to learn from other authorities, or share expertise? Is the Isle of Wight to… Read more »

tryme
Reply to  Robert Jones
18, September 2014 9:30 pm

A tour de force, Robert!

Cynic
Reply to  Cllr Chris Whitehouse (Newport West Ward)
19, September 2014 11:06 am

Robert asks CW “WHAT is the real, genuine, logical, moral, practical basis of your objection? …. And if you haven’t one – what on earth was the point of this?”

Some might think it was is self-promotion via regular name-checks (another is in his CP letter today)- a classic long-term PR tactic! :-.

martin william wareham
18, September 2014 6:48 pm

Councillor Whitehouse you really are a piece of work Ive seen you in action talk about not in front of the chidren.

tryme
Reply to  martin william wareham
18, September 2014 9:13 pm

He apparently swore in the Chamber.I don’t know whether he is trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator, or whether he IS the lowest common denominator. Yes, great to see Sally’s timely Fact Check, stating that Cllr Stephens cut his own pay, and only a Renumeration Panel recommended a small increase on that. People often wish we had broader horizons on the Island. This LGA appointment… Read more »

tryme
Reply to  tryme
18, September 2014 9:35 pm

Nothing seems to help people recall the merits of the Indies so much as a reminder of the Tories …

Cynic
Reply to  tryme
19, September 2014 11:07 am

Good comment tryme!

Robert Jones
18, September 2014 9:52 pm

I see Conservative central office ‘mark-’em-down department has come out of hiding – without wishing to make any reasoned comment, of course.

What a contemptible bunch they are…..

Cynic
Reply to  Robert Jones
19, September 2014 11:09 am

Careful Robert- tryme might slap your wrist! :-))

Grangebeg
Reply to  Robert Jones
19, September 2014 7:11 pm

Robert, you’re right! As I pointed out on another thread I always believe that the higher the red minus score the closer the truth that someone doesn’t want aired.

Openness, honesty, clarity and truth frighten some people!

davidwalter
18, September 2014 11:30 pm

Just summarising briefly from my perspective: a) Cllr Stephens (due to his seniority) is entitled to aspire to a salary vastly greater than his allowances; his allowances paid by the taxpayer don’t buy anything like 100% of his time b) I’m puzzled why he is so often telling us how many hours he works for the Council. Mr Burbage should give 100% but if it’s well-run Cllr… Read more »

tryme
Reply to  davidwalter
19, September 2014 6:41 am

I expect the leader “keeps labouring” the transparency point because certain people keep trying to use this as a stick to beat the Indies with, so he naturally responds on the subject. It has been shown here that he has been open on the LGA, whether or not you noticed. Given that Pugh had private and non-local government financial committments while Leader, I am only glad that… Read more »

tryme
Reply to  davidwalter
19, September 2014 9:32 pm

Your phrase “…to a salary vastly greater than his allowances” I at first thought was an unfortunate but accidentally misleading turn of phrase to put in the first line of one of your posts, David; but your manner since then seems to indicate you do indeed intend to hound Cllr Stephens. I’m not surprised that you don’t wish us to compare with Pugh, who was Stephen’s immediate… Read more »

davidwalter
Reply to  tryme
19, September 2014 9:59 pm

tryme — “David; but your manner since then seems to indicate you do indeed intend to hound Cllr Stephens. ” I am struggling a bit with the threaded format on such a long thread – it would be easier for me if it was all in timeline order! You’re reading stuff into my post that was never intended. It is always a danger with this medium especially… Read more »

tryme
Reply to  davidwalter
19, September 2014 10:28 pm

I haven’t heard or read Cllr Stephens ‘going on’ about how transparent, hardworking etc. he is. But if he is subject to smears, naturally he will defend himself, as he should when he is a public figure. I’m sorry you seem to have taken CW’s flashy bait. I would rather you looked in private for any grounds to traduce Cllr Stephens, and emerged publicly only if you… Read more »

tryme
Reply to  davidwalter
20, September 2014 3:25 pm

There are limits on the inferences one can make in public about people, (“..if I think our public servants and representatives are behaving in an unacceptable manner I’ll say so”, – davidwalter). A comment would be moderated by Simon and Sally beyond a certain level of unevidenced slur to someone’s reputation, both to maintain OTW’s standards and to avoid threats of legal action. But even before that… Read more »

davidwalter
Reply to  tryme
20, September 2014 3:33 pm

tryme — “There are limits on the inferences one can make in public about people,…”

I suppose so. I hadn’t really thought about it. Tricky territory. What would you suggest?

tryme
Reply to  tryme
20, September 2014 3:37 pm

Looks like ‘thinking about it’ would be a good start!

davidwalter
19, September 2014 8:21 am

tryme — ” It has been shown here that he has been open on the LGA, whether or not you noticed. ” Can you quote me exactly where the role AND the payment was disclosed to the PUBLIC prior to Cllr Whitehouse’s disclosure at the Full Council on Wednesday? I don’t believe it was but am happy to make a correction if I am wrong. As for… Read more »

MamaLu
19, September 2014 9:26 am

I have two issues with Clouncillor Whitehouse’s statement: 1. What business is it of anyone how much someone earns from a paid job outside of the council? Is CW going to declare his many earnings from directorships that enable him to drive a Bentley? 2. The claim that Councillor Stephens ‘personally’ gave himself a raise is a blatant lie and should be investigated. From what I’ve read… Read more »

bazaldog
19, September 2014 11:56 am

I couldn’t care less what the guy does to make money-I certainly wouldn’t want to put the hours in for such a small remuneration. As long as he keeps the regeneration of our important services foremost in his mind, then all is good. If, however, petty squabbles, power hunger or simple unprofessionalism takes control then we are straight back to the bad old days of the Pugh… Read more »

bazaldog
19, September 2014 12:46 pm

Sorry….me again! I forgot to add that I find Cllr Whitehouse’s constant stirring a little akin to an annoying child constantly telling tales on classmates. It’s very lazy publicity and I sometimes wonder how he actually survives as a professional spin doctor?! I very rarely hear him on this blog talking about his constituents and their needs, unless of course they relate to a school that he… Read more »

davidwalter
19, September 2014 2:19 pm

pensioner, I rather suspect you’re getting a story from someone with a personal angle on the matter concerning Shalfleet Parish Council. This isn’t the right thread or subject but to avoid appearing to be ducking the question I will say that there is far more to it than you might be aware. Things which, if I discussed them here, would be wholly inappropriate. Let me take one… Read more »

Food for Thought
Reply to  davidwalter
19, September 2014 3:17 pm

David you are completely wrong in your assumption above but we will leave it there.

davidwalter
19, September 2014 3:48 pm

pensioner — “David you are completely wrong in your assumption above but we will leave it there.”

OK but only to mention that you said you are nearly-bald? No nearly-bald person has asked me what actually happened so obviously you don’t have the story from my perspective. With respect, it it you who are completely wrong, it seems to me :-)

Food for Thought
Reply to  davidwalter
19, September 2014 5:17 pm

Oh dear, did I say bald, prescriptive text and all that, I meant to say bored.
David old boy, stop assuming. Now it really is time to stop playing this game. I may call you next week for a friendly chat.

davidwalter
19, September 2014 6:19 pm

pensioner — LOL! :-) I’ll be delighted to hear from you whenever you like. If you’re local to Shalfleet Parish, maybe you’d be able to make our ‘Meet the Candidates’ hour at the Wellow Institute next Friday, 26th September? We start at 7.30 pm, tea and coffee, and we hope all the candidates will be there. What remains of Shalfleet Parish Council and our new Clerk have… Read more »

fallon1
19, September 2014 6:46 pm

All people do is moan! Their are far more sinister things to moan about in life than this! I think the Leader does a fantastic job! He has turned this Island around since Mr Pugh left! How fantastic that he was offered this extra role! …I would love to see someone else work as hard as he does…infact i dont know anyone that does!! Well done Mr… Read more »

Stewart Blackmore
19, September 2014 9:46 pm

So quiet man Chapman jumps ship.
No doubt he’ll do the right thing and resign his ward seat.
Whitehouse already brown nosing him.

Robert Jones
Reply to  Stewart Blackmore
19, September 2014 11:24 pm

Resign his seat? I wouldn’t hold your breath, Stewart. All the courage and honour that Chris Whitehouse ascribes to Charles have their limits – I should be surprised if they extend to the noble principle of self-sacrifice.

Lady at the Back
Reply to  Robert Jones
19, September 2014 11:33 pm

I tried to give you an up-arrow for that comment, Mr Jones, but my laptop wouldn’t register it.

Robert Jones
Reply to  Lady at the Back
19, September 2014 11:36 pm

Never mind: I shall bask comfortably in the warmth of your intention.

tryme
Reply to  Robert Jones
19, September 2014 11:42 pm

Robert, may I suggest you apply to the CP editor for the (sadly) vacant penthouse flat in Weekender? You have so many interesting and intriguing Island stories and people to recount, and how they apply to modern times, I think you would be a big hit. Slightly left wing views notwithstanding!

Alison Hayden.
19, September 2014 10:07 pm

Councillor Whitehouse, you sum up in your comments, stirring, actions at Council meetings and general attitude just why the British public unanimously voted UKIP in the European elections! The people of the Isle of Wight are absolutely sick and tired of you and yours not actually doing what you were elected to do. You are more interested in scoring cheap points than working for the good of… Read more »

Cllr Chris Whitehouse
Reply to  Alison Hayden.
19, September 2014 10:39 pm

OK so what relation are you to Ian Stephens again…. remind us???

Cllr Chris Whitehouse (Newport West Ward)

tryme
Reply to  Cllr Chris Whitehouse
19, September 2014 11:13 pm

No, YOU remind us.
Don’t you think you should have the courage to say exactly how anyone here is, in your view, related to Cllr Stephens, Mr Whitehouse? Not doing so lays you open to the charge of issuing a smear.

Cllr Chris Whitehouse
Reply to  Alison Hayden.
19, September 2014 10:41 pm

my comment was aimed at Fallon1 in particular but has appeared not where it should!

Cllr Chris Whitehouse (Newport West Ward)

Robert Jones
20, September 2014 3:55 pm

A) Try-me – the CP Editor would know that I’d be unable to keep politics out of any column he might give me, so I don’t think my replacing the sadly-missed Keith Newbery is really on the cards (and anyway, Brian Greening is doing a grand job); B) Alison – the British public did NOT unanimously vote UKIP at the last Euro elections. While it’s not in… Read more »

tryme
Reply to  Robert Jones
20, September 2014 4:05 pm

Well, he doesn’t keep it out of the rest of the paper either, Robert, so he might welcome the redress!

Brian is fine, (I’ve not seen this week’s yet), but I feel he is a stop gap till someone of your maverick yet perceptive qualities comes forward! I hope the CP read this and get in touch with you.

davidwalter
20, September 2014 3:57 pm

tryme — “Looks like ‘thinking about it’ would be a good start!”

I might try that. Any more tips?

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