Floating Bridge

Saver cards to be introduced on the floating bridge as fares rise

The council share this latest news, Ed


A new, flexible ‘saver card’ system for foot passengers of the Cowes floating bridge will start on 1 June.

The cards operate in a similar way to the London transport ‘Oyster cards’. Foot passengers will be able to ‘touch in’ their saver cards as they get on the floating bridge. From 1 June 2016 the cards will be read by the floating bridge staff with handheld readers; but once the new floating bridge is in use from January 2017, static card readers will be positioned at entry points on the bridge.

Buy your card from 18 May
Cards can be purchased from 18 May from the ticket office at Cowes, between 9am and 5pm. The cards cost an initial £2 to buy and can then loaded with credit for foot passenger trips across the River Medina on the floating bridge.

Cards need to be registered online via the new floating bridge Website from 18 May. Cards can then be loaded with credit.

Foot passengers can ‘top up’ their saver cards online via the website or using cash or card payments via the onsite ticket machines. It is suggested that, where possible, credit should be purchased online in advance to avoid queues on site. Pay-as-you-go tickets can also be purchased from the onsite ticket machines.

Increase in fares and cuts to concessions
From 1 June individual foot passenger return fares will be £1, for all foot passengers aged over 18. However, saver card users will receive a 30 per cent discount on each return trip, at 70p once cards are registered online.

Vehicle fares will not change.

Bus pass holders that have previously travelled free of charge will now not receive any concession to travel.

Smart: “A really flexible ticket solution”
Councillor Shirley Smart, Executive member for public transport and tourism, said:

“This is a really flexible ticket solution. It means that people will no longer have to make sure to have loose change ready to purchase a ticket to travel, and means less queuing and less chance of missing the floating bridge, as their tickets will already be charged.

“It’s a very economical solution. Even if you only travel on the floating bridge once a week, you’ll still save over £15 a year by using the ‘saver card’. I’d encourage everyone; not just regular travellers, to purchase a saver card before the changes start; and avoid the queues.”

Longer term, saver card credit will also be available for purchase in local shops.

Saver cards for vehicles will be introduced when the new floating bridge is in service, from early 2017. Once introduced, saver card vehicle fares will reduce from £2.20 (presently) to just £2 per return journey but if paying through the fixed ticket machines the cost will be £2.50; saving 25 per cent.

Image: © Allan Marsh

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davee
10, May 2016 5:14 pm

Floating bridge becomes permanent tourist attraction. Complementing the new chain arch as part of E. Cowes regeneration!

Andrea Buton-Smythe
Reply to  davee
10, May 2016 5:20 pm

I thought that was a monument to slavery, it certainly looks like one.

Island Monkey
10, May 2016 5:26 pm

See, once the principle of charging is established, they ALWAYS put the price up. This is how government works.

eddo
Reply to  Island Monkey
10, May 2016 5:40 pm

And that’s why I now earn more in a hour than I did in a week Once upon a time a long long time ago !!!

CHRIS P LAMB
Reply to  Island Monkey
11, May 2016 7:56 am

they ALWAYS put the price up. Yeah, excellent. I bet the moaning freeloaders are suicidal by now. I recall the groans when it was going from free to 20p. Some talked of using their free bus pass to go all the way round to the Racecourse and down Fairlee Road just to save 20p. Now they have to pay £1. Well welcome to the paying world of… Read more »

Cicero
10, May 2016 6:00 pm

” less chance of missing the floating bridge, as their tickets will already be charged.”

Will “already charged”tickets for journeys missed through no fault of the passenger (e.g. bridge breakdown, postponement caused by weather conditions and tides etc) be refunded automatically? How?

John
10, May 2016 6:48 pm

Who said the Island is behind the times? “similar… to… Oyster Cards” 13 years after their introduction we get a similar scheme, when London transport have already moved onto a successor contactless scheme that avoids needing another card…

Perhaps we should give them some credit, and nod respectfully when they advise it is for the advantage of residents…

East Cowes
10, May 2016 7:18 pm

Why are they doing this? They have lost money this year; when the full budget and figures were given to the East Cowes Town Council, it is clear that they lost money compared to vehicles only.

They will haemorrhage money now with paying for the pensioners going around by bus!

John
10, May 2016 7:20 pm

… and car fares are per return?

… and £2.00 instead of £2.50 “saving 25%” is it? Try 20%.

Would I be being harsh to criticise the council for their knowledge, numeracy and literacy?

John
Reply to  John
10, May 2016 10:12 pm

It gets worse… “Councillor Phil Jordan, Executive member for parking, said: “In the past, the council has not had a formal Island-wide parking strategy. This has caused innumerate issues” “The council is asking for your views about parking. A draft parking strategy has been produced, which looks at all aspects of parking across the Island and makes a series of proposals for how to best and better… Read more »

Michael Douse
10, May 2016 7:47 pm

Will the extra income be ring fenced for the floating bridge or will it simply be spent by the IW Council as before? The IW Council should encourage the mental and physical well being of its resident OAPs and allow them to get out and about and use their bus passes on the floating bridge. By all means charge mainland holiday maker pensioners but not island residents… Read more »

Altrinham Jesus
10, May 2016 7:47 pm

” Saver cards for vehicles will be introduced when the new floating bridge is in service, from early 2017. Once introduced, saver card vehicle fares will reduce from £2.20 (presently) to just £2 per return journey but if paying through the fixed ticket machines the cost will be £2.50; saving 25 per cent.” Are car drivers expected to leave their vehicle on a public highway whilst they… Read more »

Island Monkey
10, May 2016 7:53 pm

Another indie council omni-shambles. Nothing is ever thought through is it?

Morris Barton
10, May 2016 8:14 pm

Re loss of pensioner concession and 100% increase for foot passengers generally When was the consultation with either East Cowes, Cowes Town Councils or business associations ? Did our East Cowes and Cowes IW Councillors know or consult or vote for or against or was it an officer delegated decision Whichever it is a betrayal of the Independents promise of transparency and consultation plus being political suicide… Read more »

Luisa Hillard
Reply to  Morris Barton
11, May 2016 2:16 pm

Morris, this increase in fares for pedestrians was part of the Budget in February and I think that the papers were available to view on-line as part of the Budget Consultation. They were certainly available in advance as part of the meeting papers. I shared these with residents through my Facebook page and received only one comment with regards to the Floating Bridge – which did surprise… Read more »

Benefit spunger
Reply to  Luisa Hillard
11, May 2016 2:32 pm

Do you think those on benefits such as income support, carers allowance job seekers allowance should also be made to pay in order to travel from one side of the same village as the other. £10 plus £2 to buy a card is way beyond the reach of many of us on benefits. Will the job centre reimburse costs for those seeking work.

Benefit spunger
Reply to  Benefit spunger
11, May 2016 9:41 pm

In a caring compassionate world I would have thought those reasonable questions. Seems apparent theres little caring or compassion here,

ThomasC
Reply to  Benefit spunger
11, May 2016 10:22 pm

And for that you can thank the Conservative government, not the local council, whose funding they have ruthlessly cut.

Tosh
Reply to  Luisa Hillard
12, May 2016 10:45 am

How many people in East Cowes do you think follow you on Facebook ?

DebbieUptheRoad
Reply to  Morris Barton
11, May 2016 9:57 pm

I remember the consultation (Anyone could give their opinion) couple of years ago… see the background & results here – https://www.iwight.com/documentlibrary/download/floating-bridge-consultation-of-foot-passenger-charges-online-suvery-results

Flum buff
Reply to  DebbieUptheRoad
11, May 2016 11:36 pm

Seems much of that consultation was ignored. Seems bizarre to commission a survey that shows the vast majority would prefer to pay cash and most think 18p per pedestrian reasonable with higher scale for cyclists. What was the point in wasting more money on a survey when people clearly havent been listened to.

Paul Schofield
10, May 2016 11:08 pm

Cllr Shirley Smart says: “It means that people will no longer have to make sure to have loose change ready to purchase a ticket to travel, and means less queuing and less chance of missing the floating bridge” I say that all these aims are more simply achieved by having the floating bridge free to all foot passengers. This has the added advantage of not turning East… Read more »

Rob
10, May 2016 11:15 pm

I notice it was left until after last weeks election to announce another attack on the finances of users of the foot passages ferry.

I WOUNDER WHY????

Mrs Retired Hack
Reply to  Rob
11, May 2016 10:33 am

Rob, there were no council elections on the IOW last week, only for the Police and Crime Commissioner, so the timing of the announcement has nothing to do with that.

eddo
Reply to  Rob
11, May 2016 4:56 pm

you don’t vote then Rob

VentnorLad
11, May 2016 7:13 am

When you read many of the above comments, it becomes apparent that the Conservative government plan to divert blame for austerity measures away from Westminster is working really well. The Floating Bridge is not a statutory service. Therefore government will not take it into account when providing IWC with funding. The flawed austerity programme means that we’ll get money only for statutory services. Discretionary services need to… Read more »

Diogenese's Barrel
Reply to  VentnorLad
11, May 2016 7:24 am

DaveIOW, It is recalled that when the Conservative IW Council placed the PFI highways’ contract they agreed to remove the Floating Bridge’s designation as a specified road, thus removing the associated financial burden from Island Roads.
I vent my ire.
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Old Knobby
11, May 2016 7:41 am

Looks like a business opportunity for someone. According to the council website it’s currently £3 for a minibus. Fill up a minibus with people, charge them 50p return and everyone’s quids in, except the council. DaveIOW, the IWC had no reason to scrap the service, it already made a profit from vehicles whilst it was free for pedestrians. Presumably it no longer does, given the reduced numbers… Read more »

VentnorLad
11, May 2016 8:24 am

There’s a lot of comment on pensioners losing their concession. Please consider this post to be a “thought experiment” rather than a serious suggestion! The latest group pensioners are baby-boomers. They have lived and worked through economically good times. Many are home owners. Most receive the state pension. Many have other pension provision too. Many of the younger pensioners I know talk of being mortgage free and… Read more »

sam salt
Reply to  VentnorLad
11, May 2016 9:15 am

I am sure you are right DaveIOW that the latest group of pensioners known as baby-boomers are better off than their predecessor’s but they are in a group born from 1945 onwards. There are a great many older people on the Island born pre-1945 who are nowhere near as financially secure as the baby-boomers. Try going out and talking to those in their mid to late 70’s… Read more »

Richard
11, May 2016 9:28 am

DaveIow Couldn’t agree more, youngsters are being told to work harder and longer to pay for a growing elderly population , who say they should get it for free as they have worked all their lives, well so will many of the younger generation of now , and they deserve a break, because let’s face it the youngsters of today are not going to have as many… Read more »

sam salt
Reply to  Richard
11, May 2016 9:45 am

“Nothing is free, someone has to pay, and that someone is normally the hard working individual”. Richard a lot of pensioners are paying tax don’t forget if their income falls into the taxation bracket. You have to remember that pensioners did not have the enhanced benefit systems there is now. Yes they family allowance but there was no family tax credit and other benefits that help younger… Read more »

Old Knobby
Reply to  sam salt
11, May 2016 10:05 am

And whether it’ll actually increase revenue. If less people use it, and pensioners choose to travel by bus (free to them) then it could raise less, or even cost the council money. That’s without considering the effect of businesses either side of the river and the subsequent take in business rates and taxes.

Richard
11, May 2016 9:57 am

Zzzz’s Let me give you another example, when all pensioners received free travel, I remember an elderly lady being dropped off at Shanklin station every Friday in a brand new Mercedes ( and which was upgraded every year ) board the train and make sure she was only charged from Ryde Pier as she had her OAP free travel card. As you say not all pensioners are… Read more »

sam salt
Reply to  Richard
11, May 2016 10:10 am

I don’t disagree with you Richard. A pensioner myself I find it disgraceful that those, like the example you give, play and abuse the system. To be honest would means testing work? I fill in my tax return every year and the government know my income. I don’t abuse the system. Yet there are those who do and I could name and shame. However I am sure… Read more »

Richard
11, May 2016 10:24 am

Zzzz’s
Means testing would stop some of the abuse, just as the benefits system has a fraud department to stop some of the abuse.
To get back on topic, I just believe if you have the ability to contribute, you should, it makes life easier for all and not just ones self.

Morris Barton
11, May 2016 11:26 am

The main point which is too often ignored is why should the residents of East Cowes, workers young and old and travellers needing to get the Red Jet be surcharged for a public connection between two towns Why not charge for crossing the Yar Bridge at Yarmouth?

billy builder
Reply to  Morris Barton
11, May 2016 11:32 am

Because its a ferry service requiring a team of operators to run and very expensive hardware to maintain, not a bridge. Its like asking why should passengers be charged for using the ferry crossings between portsmouth and ryde.

Luisa Hillard
Reply to  Morris Barton
11, May 2016 2:28 pm

This is a valid point. The Yar Bridge does not generate income but it does have running costs, in the form of maintenance. A toll could be introduced. However, this bridge is part of the highway network and is therefore paid for through Road Tax and the PFI. The Floating Bridge is a ferry, not a road. We can compare it to the Hythe Ferry, which may… Read more »

Highway to Hell
11, May 2016 12:15 pm

Here is a random thought: As the IWC have invested in Oyster Card-type equipment, did they think to consult, say, Island line or Southern Vectis prior to buying the stuff? Imagine, if you will, a situation where a person wishes to use various forms of public transport – lets call these: Bus / Train / Floating Bridge – wouldn’t it be rather handy if all you needed… Read more »

VentnorLad
Reply to  Highway to Hell
11, May 2016 12:30 pm

A card that controls low value financial transactions simply by placing it near an appropriate device?

That sounds like something from the dreams of Arthur C Clarke or Gene Roddenberry!

But more seriously… my bank card already does this. Why would I want another for the bus/train/floating bridge?

Luisa Hillard
Reply to  Highway to Hell
11, May 2016 2:30 pm

Highway to Hell – actually there has been work done to try and get a shared system for all transport providers not only on the Island but Hampshire too. I don’t know the progress of this but I know that it was being worked towards at one point.

edward
11, May 2016 12:57 pm

perhaps the council should make up there mind on how much the tickets are going to be. the price stated in this article being £1 return. however if the isle of wight website is to believed it is £1 per single journey. (ticket machines have been installed at the Floating Bridge these are adjacent to the slipways at both Cowes and East Cowes. You will be able… Read more »

Luisa Hillard
Reply to  edward
11, May 2016 2:34 pm

I checked this and I could only find £1 returns being stated, not singles.

edward
Reply to  Luisa Hillard
11, May 2016 10:27 pm

the following is on the isle of wight website:- Foot Passenger charges from June 2016 From midday on the 1 June 2016 new charges and a new way of purchasing tickets will be introduced for foot passengers (with the exception of under 19’s) using the floating bridge. Fixed ticket machines have been installed at the Floating Bridge these are adjacent to the slipways at both Cowes and… Read more »

Paul Schofield
11, May 2016 1:24 pm

DaveIOW makes the valid point that the predicament we and our Council are are currently in is a direct result of this Conservative government’s austerity programme, (more like a pogrom perhaps as I believe people will die as a result of it.) This austerity programme which is being applied for reasons of Tory ideology rather than practical necessity uses the excuse of the financial collapse of 2008,… Read more »

Island Monkey
Reply to  Paul Schofield
11, May 2016 6:03 pm

What utter nonsense, a real diatribe. If everything is as you claim, what about the almost two decades of Labour rule?

Paul Schofield
Reply to  Island Monkey
11, May 2016 7:05 pm

The task we have is to identify who, or which party, will lead the country to the benefit of the most people and who will also be caring towards the most vulnerable. Tony Blair, to my mind, was really a Conservative at heart, indeed,I never voted for him or his so called “New Labour” , in fact I opposed quite a few of his policies. As voters… Read more »

Island Maths
Reply to  Island Monkey
11, May 2016 11:15 pm

“almost two decades of Labour rule” Since when did 13 years (1997-2010) become almost 2 decades?

Ian Young
Reply to  Paul Schofield
11, May 2016 8:07 pm

Tony Blair and New Labour are now history and have been for years, time to get over them. Using my intellect, my intuition and my conscience, I can sadly see nothing but Tory Governments until at least the 2030’s. In all honestly I do not believe that it is incumbent on the electorate to vote for any particular party. But I would suggest it is incumbent on… Read more »

VentnorLad
Reply to  Ian Young
11, May 2016 8:53 pm

On 6th July, when the Iraq Inquiry reports, Tony Bliar will stop being history for a while and be front and centre of world news. I’ve been looking forward to seeing him in handcuffs being carted off to a war crimes tribunal. Although that’s an unlikely scenario, I can still hope that the revelations about his deceit of the British people leads to his withdrawal from public… Read more »

Ian Young
Reply to  VentnorLad
11, May 2016 9:04 pm

Hope you feel better for than rant but what the hell has it got to do with politics in 2016

VentnorLad
Reply to  Ian Young
11, May 2016 9:19 pm

In 2016, we find out about the lies told by our ex-PM to take us in to an unlawful, unnecessary, unwinnable war. A war that killed 179 British Service personnel. And countless thousands of innocent Iraqis. A war that created an entirely predictable power vacuum. A power vacuum that directly contributed to the rise of “Islamic State” in Iraq. A rise that has led to refugees fleeing… Read more »

Ian Young
Reply to  VentnorLad
11, May 2016 9:57 pm

Sorry DaveIOW but you are addressing issues I have never raised and on which quite frankly you have no idea what I think.

But as you say this is not the time or place.

Luisa Hillard
Reply to  Ian Young
11, May 2016 9:02 pm

I have never voted Labour in my life as I could never support Tony Blair. However, I very much like what I’ve seen of Jeremy Corbyn so far. He appears to practice the kind of politics that I believe in. In my view he’s the UK version of Bernie Sanders.

Steve Goodman
Reply to  Luisa Hillard
11, May 2016 10:21 pm

Those liking the Corbyn/Sanders views might also be interested in Bernie’s brother Larry (Oxford Green parliamentary candidate and health spokesman, with useful advice about things like the insanity of paying to ‘Americanise’ our NHS; link to follow). And yes, Bliar seems to be a war criminal and a greedy git, and Corbyn seems to be a welcome political breath of fresh air after decades of putrid parliamentarians.… Read more »

Steve Goodman
Reply to  Steve Goodman
11, May 2016 10:22 pm
Ian Young
Reply to  Luisa Hillard
11, May 2016 10:58 pm

I agree Sanders, and Corbyn have a lot in common, much of which is honourable and decent.

Sadly they both have a weakness, they are both electoral losers.

Sanders will at least lose to a fellow democrat, Corbyn will lose to a Tory and that is not good news.

VentnorLad
Reply to  Ian Young
11, May 2016 11:03 pm

Don’t underestimate Corbyn.

He appeals to many who abandoned Labour in the “New Labour” (Tory Lite) years.

Ian Young
Reply to  Ian Young
11, May 2016 11:37 pm

Have known Corbyn for over 20 years, first heard him speak at a Union fringe meeting in Blackpool years ago. He tried to tell us that IRA bombers were not terrorists but misunderstood freedom fighters. Went down like a lead balloon, especially as the event had been organised by the Birmingham branches of my Union. Have disliked the man ever since. Sorry DaveIOW, Luisa and Steve but… Read more »

Cicero
Reply to  Ian Young
12, May 2016 7:51 am

Tony Blair and New Labour are now history and have been for years, time to get over them.” …… *but* Blair’s bagman and acolyte- David Miliband-is trying to sneak back into UK politics after sojourning in the US for a couple of years. …. if Corbyn gets dumped, will the New Labour “John The Baptist” be the one saying “I am the voice of one shouting in… Read more »

Ian Young
Reply to  Cicero
12, May 2016 8:24 am

Will debate this point at another time and in another place cicero, you old
Populists

But I must say I am sure Mr MIlliband would be in favor of a free floating bridge.

jack
11, May 2016 1:29 pm

sounds like a typical council operation tell us it’s easier and convenient. then stiff us on the price. it’s only east cowes and we have to get to work anyway . also before they mention tourists most of them use cars anyway and very few will stop in east cowes to sample of one of the most expensive ferry journeys in the UK

John
11, May 2016 1:39 pm

T’s & C’s now online. Few differences to oyster… No card refund, No credit refund, Minimum £10 top up, Credit lost after 3 years, … and a perverse mix of some credit being held on the card, and some on server. One positive (although it may only be that they have not thought it through) is that the card can be used by others, and use on… Read more »

Cicero
Reply to  John
11, May 2016 3:38 pm

I asked “Will ‘already charged”tickets for journeys missed through no fault of the passenger (e.g. bridge breakdown, postponement caused by weather conditions and tides etc) be refunded automatically? How?”

Apparently *not* if the Ts & Cs state:

No card refund,
No credit refund,
Minimum £10 top up,

Any truth in the rumour that the Floating Bridge is to be renamed ‘The Con Craft”?

John
Reply to  Cicero
11, May 2016 3:43 pm

Looks like card actually charged as 35p singles, or 50p if card not registered online.

Luisa Hillard
Reply to  Cicero
11, May 2016 3:44 pm

Return tickets are valid for 7 days from purchase, so as long as you retain your receipt it should not be a problem. Should there be a breakdown the Jenny Boat may be brought into service and I expect that there will be a charge for pedestrians to use that – the unused ticket.

Cicero
Reply to  Luisa Hillard
11, May 2016 4:07 pm

Does that mean a potential passenger has to use his/her card to produce a paper receipt that then has to be collected/validated by a member of the crew and then binned?

If so, is it really “Smart” technology?

Luisa Hillard
Reply to  Cicero
11, May 2016 4:35 pm

I am waiting for a briefing on how this is going to work but I can’t imagine that a return ticket can work without a paper token/receipt to prove purchase on the return journey. I have previously expressed my view to officers that using an electronic smart card to then buy a paper ticket may not be ideal. I do not recall different ticketing options being offered… Read more »

Cicero
Reply to  Cicero
11, May 2016 4:38 pm

Try reading the website Luisa and you will find the answer to my question is “Yes” i.e. Machine issues paper receipt which is then scanned by a crew member.

” You will be able to purchase ‘passenger & cyclists’ tickets ONLY from these machines, and then show them onboard where they will be scanned by a crew member.”

Pretty primitive!

happycloud
11, May 2016 3:58 pm

Using the card system to pay, will it deduct 35p per trip or automatically assume you are returning and charge 70p. Is the return open ended – very valid questions that are not answered on the new website.

Luisa Hillard
Reply to  happycloud
11, May 2016 4:17 pm

There are only return tickets which are valid for 7 days. Your questions are in the FAQ section.

John
Reply to  Luisa Hillard
11, May 2016 5:19 pm

New Website states:
“Only once Saver Cards are registered online will the credit be taken at the discounted rate (35p instead of 50p for a pedestrian single).”

Which site (or councillor) should we believe?

John
Reply to  John
11, May 2016 5:21 pm
John
Reply to  John
11, May 2016 5:24 pm

Full T’s & C’s at hyperlink at bottom of page
https://www.iwfloatingbridge.co.uk/register/

Flum buff
11, May 2016 5:32 pm

No mention of concessions for carers.

Sally Perry
Admin
12, May 2016 8:01 am

Just a reminder to those commenting that the subject of this article is the rise in fares on the floating bridge and introduction of saver cards.

For the sake of those readers who wish to follow discussions about the subject please can we keep the comments on topic.

Thanks.

Cicero
Reply to  Sally Perry
12, May 2016 8:15 am

Also about the operation of Saver Cards?

Sally Perry
Admin
Reply to  Cicero
12, May 2016 10:39 am

Yes, and the operation of saver cards, but I think you already knew what I meant.

Cicero
Reply to  Sally Perry
12, May 2016 11:12 am

Just checking Sal, as you frequently scold me for going off-topic (guilty I’m afraid!) :-))

VentnorLad
Reply to  Sally Perry
12, May 2016 9:46 am

Guilty as charged! Sorry.

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