Who Is Responsible For Clearing Ventnor Haven?

Harbourmaster Contract to Be Scrutinised by VTCAt the Ventnor Town Council meeting last Monday evening, Cllr Robinson raised an issue that has been on many peoples minds (or up their noses) over the past few weeks.

We’re all aware of the problem of the smell coming from the Haven on low tide. For the benefit of those reading this who are concerned with the water quality, rest assured that the Blue Flag would not have been awarded again this year unless the water quality on the beach had passed stringent tests.

Theories we’ve heard before on the smell seem to point in the direction of rotting seaweed that enters the haven, but due to the design of the area, is not able to escape.

According to Operations Harbourmaster, Damieon Phillips, a trench has formed under the fishery and that is where the rotting seaweed is now collecting.

Confusion: Cheetah Marine no longer responsible?
Cllr Lucas, who sits on the Beach Environment Forum, stated that this was an issue that he had raised regularly at the Forum, but had been informed that the obligation to clean out the Haven had somehow now fallen outside Cheetah Marine’s Harbourmaster contract.

He went on to say that although Cheetah Marine don’t have an obligation to remove the seaweed anymore, they have continued to do so and just a few weeks ago, removed over 100 tons of seaweed from the Haven.

However, Cllr Lucas told the meeting that subsequently, IWC Coastal Manager, Peter Marsden, had informed Cllr Lucas that Cheetah Marine should be clearing the seaweed. Cllr Lucas since contacted Mr Strevens from Cheetah Marine who told him that ‘they were working on it.’

Cllr Lucas continued by stating that it was clear that designers of the Haven hadn’t provided for the danger of seaweed collecting and not being able to escape. Hence the problem we are experiencing once again.

No to composting
As readers may remember a previous clear out operation last year resulted in around 30 tons of seaweed being removed for the purpose of composting.

Cllr Mew told the TC that he’d recently spoken to the local farmer who took the bulk of the seaweed, Mr Cory, who stated that he was not interested in receiving any more seaweed because it was contaminated with sand and too long and arduous to clean before use.

Contract to be scrutinised
As the Harbourmaster’s contract is between IWC (rather than TC) and Cheetah Marine, Cllr Welsford agreed to take matter forward at County level.

Cllr Robinson suggested it would be a good idea to invite Mr Phillips to the next Town Council meeting to discuss the issue.

In order to clarify what responsibilities fall within the Harbourmaster’s contract, a copy of the contract has been requested to be presented to the next Town Council meeting on 13th July.

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Christopher Bonney
22, June 2009 8:19 pm

It is a little worrying to find the speed at which Cheetah Marine’s contractual obligations have apparently already been allowed to be eroded. There would seem to be an ongoing requirement for VTC to monitor the active implementation of this contract to ensure that CM continues to act within both the letter and the spirit of the contract.

Debby Robinson
Reply to  Christopher Bonney
23, June 2009 9:14 am

Rest assured Christopher – there are multiple sets of hawk eyes trained on the Eastern Esplanade 24/7.
As I said in my election flyer ‘Vigilance is needed to ensure that Cheetah Marine fulfil their promises to the town’.

Linda Blowers
22, June 2009 10:53 pm

It makes little difference who clears the haven: the obnoxious aroma to which we all refer has nothing to do with seaweed at low tide: it has everything to do with sewage smells coming from the band stand. Please will someone on the Town Council approach Southern Water regarding this ‘problem’. There are odour counteractants available commercially from Johnson & Johnson (like industrial Oust) specifically to neutralise… Read more »

Christopher Bonney
Reply to  Linda Blowers
23, June 2009 11:09 am

Linda, I am not at all convinced that the smell is from the pumping station and believe you are wrong in this assertion. The simple way to check is by setting up a group to monitor the pong levels during and following the next seaweed clearance. Perhaps something the VTC could set in motion? The notion that the smell is from untreated sewage is potentially damaging to… Read more »

Linda Blowers
Reply to  Christopher Bonney
23, June 2009 4:49 pm

Chris – I have no intention of posting potentially damaging comments. On the contrary, I do all I can to encourage tourism (hence my website). However, I am dismayed that this problem persists and I want to see it resolved as soon as possible. I agree: there is sometimes a smell from rotting seaweed around the haven. But there is also sometimes a smell of sewage –… Read more »

Debby Robinson
Reply to  Linda Blowers
23, June 2009 5:09 pm

I am on record as having said this before. There is no way that the smell is anything other than rotting seaweed. Unfortunately it impersonates the smell of s**te so accurately that the sewage argument gets resusitated on a regular basis. If you are in any doubt about the origins of the stench just get up close next time the seaweed is being removed from the haven… Read more »

Linda Blowers
Reply to  Debby Robinson
23, June 2009 10:11 pm

I disagree with Debbie Robinson, but will not argue further.

“The lady doth protest too much, me thinks”

But no matter who is right, for the benefit of visitors and locals alike, I am simply suggesting an effective means of eliminating our nasty niffs, be they seaweed or not.

Jules
Reply to  Linda Blowers
24, June 2009 9:43 am

It sounds like Linda knows what she is talking about. I for one wouldn’t believe the fairy tales from the Council/Southern Water. Why would they admit this when they can blame the seaweed. Why not give these products a try and see if the really horrid smell goes away and leaves us with the smell of seaweed? And I don’t work for anyone who sells the products… Read more »

Oldie
23, June 2009 9:25 am

Does all this mean that the stink is going to carry on until after the next council meeting on 13th July? It’s going to put off the tourists because a number of them have commented it smells like sewage. And it can’t be healthy inhaling it.

Christopher Bonney
23, June 2009 11:23 am

The seaweed in the haven would seem to be giving off a large amount of gas presumably due to spontaneous fermentation. I wonder if this has been investigated as a potential source of biofuel. If any readers are involved in biofuel r&d it would be interesting to hear your comments.

Oldie
Reply to  Christopher Bonney
23, June 2009 12:02 pm

Both Linda and Chris make good comments. Although the smell does seem to get bad at low tide and the trapped rotting seaweed in the harbour is a serious problem and is not going to go away by itself, does anyone know how often Southern Water test their equipment and check their isn’t a break in any of their piping? Does anyone know if Southern Water have… Read more »

seb
24, June 2009 11:05 am

it may be time to seek advice from THE SEAWEED LADY

she’s on youtube too.

Lizzy
28, June 2009 12:39 pm

Another pongy day in paradise!
Great to hear that Cllr Debbie Robinson is pursuing the seaweed issue and Cllr Graham Perks has met with Southern Water. Lets hope they can quickly track the source of the problem and whatever/whoever is responsible AND get it sorted once and for all.

Neil Barnden
4, August 2009 1:42 am

The smell is NOT purely rotting seaweed. Anyone who asserts that it is is either: 1) simply misguided, 2) not long-time ‘local’, 3) allied to some sort of ‘political’ agenda’, or 4) somewhat addled, due to the effects of sewage fumes. We recently returned to Ventnor, after a 3 year sojourn to Cornwall. Previously we’d lived for 3 years at Wheelers Bay, and 15 years at Riviera,… Read more »

Oldie
4, August 2009 1:45 pm

May I humbly suggest the way forward could be along these lines when we had another serious problem which was solved satisfactorily. But someone younger needs to take charge as I’m now too old: Until 1973 Ventnor used to have big a problem with water supply in the summer. Different areas would have their water supply cut off in turn. but the Longdown area more than most.… Read more »

Marie Cousins
26, March 2010 11:15 am

We had a lovely week’s holiday in Ventnor in July 2009, apart from the Pong! We would like to holiday on the island again this summer but I’m not sure about returning to Ventnor, purely because of the smell. I have two children who enjoyed the beach but common sense tells me they should not be breathing in the awful stink, let alone playing in the sea… Read more »

rob
Reply to  Marie Cousins
23, July 2010 8:06 pm

speaking as a holidaymaker, I fell in love with Ventnor the first time I visited last year. When I returned again this year in July 2010, it was a different story. Yes the SMELL – it was so terible and overpowering, I just wanted to give the area a wide birth. I was staying in an apartment just above the Winter Gardens, and the smell was so… Read more »

steve s
23, July 2010 8:57 pm

Then you’ll, no doubt, be delighted to know that the problem has now been resolved, Rob.
We look forward to welcoming you, and Marie, back to our lovely town sometime soon.

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