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Cowes Enterprise College meeting report: Audience unenlightened by the meandering debate

OnTheWight asked Dave Miller, a parent, CEC parent council member, and former education scrutiny panel member if he’d be prepared to share this personal recollection of last night’s Cowes Enterprise College meeting. Happily he agreed (Thanks Dave!) – His caveat was to point out that it was produced on the night of the meeting from brief personal notes, and memory, as our request had not been seen until after the meeting. In his own words – Ed.


Independently chaired by Alan Marriott from the County Press, the long-called-for meeting attracted approximately 150 people, including several IW Council Executive members, councillors and a few governors in addition to parents.

The venue had been prepared with seating for several hundred attendees, with some friendly stewards (some of which were recognised as council sports centre staff) and strategically placed partitions to guide attendees into the main inspiration area (main hall) where printed ‘Ground Rules’ were placed on seats. Media coverage included a camera crew from BBC South Today, who compiled a prompt report, aired on Monday night.

Those speaking
Joining Alan on the stage were Richard Priest (IWC Executive member), Ian Stephens (IWC leader), Rachael Fidler (Chair of Governors), John Coughlan (Hampshire & IW Director of Children’s Services), and two further officers, Steve Cottrell (School Improvement) and Steve Clow (Property Services). School leadership members were observed in the back row of the audience in the top row of the tiered seating (Rebecca Pearce, James Stewart and Nigel Mason).

Following a brief introduction by Alan, Richard Priest gave an extensive introduction, majoring on wanting to improve the students’ experience in the education system, and attainment outcomes. (A predicted IW attainment figure for 2014 was stated to be up 8% to 58% – understood to relate to the benchmark 5 GCSEs A* to C inc. English & maths). He stated that he was committed to making the right decisions, and address the inherited building deficiencies. The remainder of the ‘top table’ then introduced themselves and their roles, with the most useful contributions provided by the two Hampshire officers.

Those not there
Alan advised that others had been invited, David Pugh (who had earlier made a statement to the County Press), Steve Beynon (work commitments), Stuart Love (work commitments), and Dave Burbage (could offer little – disclosure constrained).

A statement was made by Geoff Lumley that David Pugh had offered to attend if the LA agreed the release of certain evidence, and Mark Chiverton subsequently advised that Janet Newton would attend a professionally chaired meeting, again subject to certain documents being made available. Later reference was also made to Davina Fiore (IWC Monitoring Officer) with respect to her role in activities, particularly the investigation of the then-suspended officers.

Meandering debate
An ordered structure to the open forum subject areas was initially suggested by the meeting chair, but the forum drifted between numerous subject areas.

Only about 20 questions were posed in the available time and, pertinently, some questions were preceded by statements that if the responses were less political and verbose, then we could make greater progress, and that parental questions were valued more than political gesturing.

What went wrong?
Unsurprisingly, the audience were not particularly enlightened during the evening, although numerous opinions were articulated, frustrations with confidentiality agreements were expressed, and possibly a few preconceptions dispelled.

Mark Chiverton also identified that the IWC employed Project Manager for the building project was made redundant by the IWC at an early stage.

It would appear that without full disclosure of large amounts of information, a valid consensus of informed opinions is unlikely. The achievability, and indeed merits, of this will undoubtedly be debated further on other future occasions.

Audience members also made statements about current roles being undertaken by the former Chief Executive, and the two suspended officers.

Question from the chair
In response to a question posed by Alan Marriott (apparently being a pre-submitted question) regarding the role of Keith Simmonds (former IWC Assistant Director Children and Young People, and later contracted consultant) Rachael Fidler believed he strongly contributed to the rectification negotiations, and was contracted following a rigorous selection process by the governing body.

What needs to be done?
The details were in the paper released, and reported upon, on Friday.

It was apparent that there was a lack of documentation and plans for the building, and intrusive investigations were required in a number of areas. Health & Safety aspects, poor ventilation, and awful acoustics were cited.

There was one suggestion to concentrate on the main building works and sell off the old school site for development. It was noted that the sports pitches, synthetic pitch (MUGA), and other works were part of the external funding agreement, and the former sports hall and other building were urgently needed, including the undertaking of exams in the sports hall, given the open-plan design of the main building.

The need to mitigate the potential disruption to teaching and learning during the works was highlighted. Timescales were not yet clear, although the paper cited a 15 month figure.

Will the resultant building be fit for purpose?
The building was claimed to be of ‘unusual’ design, with, small classrooms, vast open spaces, and a designed capacity (~1400 students) far greater than is currently utilised (nearer 1000 students).

The words ‘vanity’ and ‘dream’ were used in the context of the original design brief.

Impact to other projects
Richard Priest recognised the potential impact to other capital projects on the Island, including other school capital projects.

John Coughlan clarified the difference between capital and revenue (DSG) funding. Negotiations were continuing with the EFA/government regarding financial support.

School Improvement, Restructuring, and Parental Engagement
Although there was an attempt to discuss only building related aspects, a good number of parents validly pointed out that there was not a provided meeting for other aspects of parental concern such as the recent student protest, the vote of no confidence in the principal (which Mark Chiverton said has “not been taken lightly”), proposed staff restructure and SEN provision. (A parental meeting scheduled for 24/04/14 was cancelled on 04/04/14, the day of the student protest, and has not yet been rearranged).

Steve Cottrell offered to support such a meeting, however Rachael Fidler initially alluded to parental engagement only at the time of academy sponsor consultation, although this position appeared to change.

One parent robustly pointed out the consultation was due to end this Friday, before a meeting was anticipated, and it was separately pointed out that the statement of considering parental input as part of the consultation appeared contradictory to a statement made at a recent Parent Council meeting which advised that parents were not consultees in the staff restructure process.

Dave Miller (happy to be contacted at wightPGR@live.co.uk) As an individual, not speaking on behalf of the CEC Parent Council

CEC Parent Council information and minutes available online (Draft minutes from the most recent meeting last week should be uploaded shortly)

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greengagebc
5, May 2020 9:41 am

Data Privacy and security are not Paramount, Trump backer Peter Thiel’s CIA backed ‘Palantir’ have been drafted in and will have access to all the data. 175 academics have signed an open letter criticising this app and the centralised store of data. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/04/29/academics_open_letter_nhs_coronavirus_app/ Privacy groups have demanded answers about Palantir’s involvement. Apple and google have create a decentralised solution that has none of these issues, it seems… Read more »

wightaway
5, May 2020 10:14 am

Hancock’s use of figures: On R4 Today programme this morning he quoted, Isle of Wight Radio’s survey which found that 80% was for the app. Quick ‘back of fag packet’ calculation: the survey had 1200 respondents x 80% = 960 which is .08% of the IOW population. Doesn’t sound as good as 80% does it Matt?

Spartacus
Reply to  wightaway
5, May 2020 10:52 am

Typical Tory propaganda as other countries have not had the take up so globally the majority of people refuse to get involved (FACT). You watch it will be IMPOSED next just like austerity.

jon101
Reply to  wightaway
5, May 2020 11:03 am

or put another way less than one tenth of one percent would CONSENT to the app.

jon101
Reply to  wightaway
5, May 2020 11:38 am

It seems Handcock has been reading the same book as Bill Gates ‘How to lie with statistics’ pointed out by a sharp eyed viewer of an interview Gates did.

greenfiremouse
Reply to  wightaway
6, May 2020 9:22 am

As I pointed out elsewhere, I wonder who was contacted for this survey. I was certainly not aware of it despite the fact that I read local news online on a daily basis. How selective were they with the (sparse) participants?

Spartacus
5, May 2020 10:46 am

Lockdown is the only proven method that prevents the virus spreading. This App has not been technically proved and has issues. As there is no vaccine and nothing else on offer we have wobbly inaccurate technology which needs 60-89% take up and can’t ensure your safety. This is being used as an excuse to kick start the economy and get you back to work pure and simple.… Read more »

Karma
Reply to  Spartacus
5, May 2020 10:18 pm

Spot on, wait for the Apple/Google App as this will be more secure and decentralised so no ‘big brother’ Government watching over you.

jon101
5, May 2020 10:58 am

The incremental step to a ‘Certificate Of Vaccination ID’ (C.O.V.ID.).

“Data will only ever be used for NHS care, management, evaluation and research and the NHS will comply fully with the law around its use,”

Meaning ‘when they change the law the council will be able to track you.’

Needless to say , I will not be downloading any such app.

jon101
5, May 2020 11:55 am

So if you work in any place of work where your phone is required to be in your locker how does this app know who has infected you.

jon101
5, May 2020 12:02 pm

I remember the NHS Summary Care Records database where there was a tick box for patients to opt out of their data being shared…. Unfortunatly the tick did not get through to certain doctors surgeries and so your “do not share” data got shared anyway,, Apparently it was a bug in the system which is now fixed…. but the patient data is now out there. Uninspiring isn’t… Read more »

fedupbritain
5, May 2020 12:38 pm

The next step will be mandatory ID cards. There are many people who will welcome this, but I would not. Government creep has been astonishing over the last few decades as IT advances have made it possible. Legal empowerment has also filtered down to most Government agencies who have the power to issue financial and other penalties without the need for referral to the criminal justice system.… Read more »

Rowan
5, May 2020 12:52 pm

Good clear article. But I am still concerned that this is not ‘the NHS app’ but the NHSX app, and that could make a big difference to its effectiveness and safety, and to people’s trust in it.

Karma
Reply to  Rowan
5, May 2020 10:08 pm

Trust it at your peril!

Rowan
5, May 2020 1:05 pm

Another concern: ‘The ambition of test and trace is to enable the UK to start to come out of some elements of lockdown.’ But the ‘ambition’ of test and trace ought to be to prevent more infections and deaths. Yes we need to come out of ‘lockdown’ when we can, but only when it’s safe to do so. And unless we massively reduce the number of people… Read more »

Rowan
5, May 2020 1:08 pm

Another query:
‘As the test, track and trace programme rolls out nationally, expected in mid-May, Public Health England will oversee the deployment of 18,000 additional contact tracers to support the programme.’

It’s 5 May today. Mid-May is next week. So where are these 18,000 jobs being advertised? Why can’t we apply for them?!

jon101
Reply to  Rowan
7, May 2020 10:59 am

It may be that the ‘jobs’ have already been allocated to the 77th Brigade

peterj
5, May 2020 1:13 pm

It’s understandable and laudable that people want to help and do the right think, but honestly some people are losing their minds and abandoning all reason over this. From being called ‘infantile conspiracy theorists’ to accusations of treason just because some of us dare to point out how flawed our approach to this is, is madness. To those blinded by some notion of patriotism, consider why so… Read more »

peterj
Reply to  peterj
5, May 2020 1:15 pm

A link to the government document which explicitly gives GCHQ content to access the system – no tinfoil hat required, it’s in black and white:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/879049/Security_of_NHS_and_Public_Health_Services_Digital_Systems__Coronavirus__Directions_2020.pdf

Clearly it’s important that the intelligence services have access…. because REASONS…

peterj
Reply to  peterj
5, May 2020 1:43 pm

Apologies – it doesn’t just grant access to this system but gives GCHQ access to *all* systems held by the NHS or a public health body relating to the Coronavirus. It’s currently only to the end of the year, but there’s no way that will be extended is there??

johnr
5, May 2020 1:30 pm

Interesting article re Apple & Google on Reuters.

YJC
5, May 2020 1:36 pm

My first crazy thought on hearing about this was with the sophiscated hackers we have these days – with this app they will soon know you are not at home and you could find your home or business broken in to or burgled. As I said a crazy thought. Which probably shows the times we sadly live in.

fedupbritain
5, May 2020 5:09 pm

I note that people are wanting to be ‘led by science’ on this issue, yet continue to smoke, drink and eat fatty foods

Karma
Reply to  fedupbritain
5, May 2020 11:01 pm

They’ll be pleased McDonald’s is looking to open then, better not stay in the queue too long if they’ve downloaded the NHSX App!

Spartacus
5, May 2020 8:17 pm

The Tory propaganda machine is working well today. How insulting Matt Hancock, Secretary of State for Health and Social Care stated today he thanked the Isle of Wight for their enthusiasm in their support of the App which clearly is a downright lie. This is being driven by Dave Stewart and Bob Seely we have never been consulted over this and not received any notification to take… Read more »

horace
Reply to  Spartacus
5, May 2020 8:29 pm

You’re not taking part.
Don’t worry about it.
Stay home. Stay safe.

Spartacus
Reply to  horace
5, May 2020 8:50 pm

You seem to be more worried about my health than your own Horace. Oh please don’t report me to Sally again.

horace
Reply to  Spartacus
5, May 2020 8:55 pm

I didn’t.
What are you talking about?
Stay home.
I don’t have that luxury.

Karma
Reply to  horace
5, May 2020 10:58 pm

We are ALL at risk; have we wiped down all the packaged food brought into the home, disinfected the door handles, letterbox & doorbell, wiped that letter or parcel, antibacterial wiped the bins, handbag, debit card, purse it goes on and on! Did we remember not to touch anything in between, wash our hands enough; it’s a different world for us all. You’re by no means the… Read more »

horace
Reply to  Karma
6, May 2020 6:20 am

Indeed.
I have pointed out the risk from all of these things in a previous post

Sally Perry
Admin
Reply to  Spartacus
5, May 2020 8:56 pm

It wasn’t Horace who reported you Spartacus

Spartacus
Reply to  Sally Perry
5, May 2020 10:27 pm

I don’t think there is a need to say this

Sally Perry
Admin
Reply to  Spartacus
6, May 2020 9:24 am

Spartacus – You said above “Oh please don’t report me to Sally again”. Horace has not reported your comments to me ever, so it is important that I correct you. What you’ve implied is untrue.

Spartacus
Reply to  Sally Perry
6, May 2020 10:53 am

This is not acceptable and becoming vey childish, there’s is no need to publicly correct me on anything, when people agree to disagree that creates debate, it’s constructive. This is not the platform to undermine someone.

Sally Perry
Admin
Reply to  Spartacus
6, May 2020 11:09 am

Spartacus – you’re in breach of the house rules. Would you please comply with them so this doesn’t have to go further.

Spartacus
Reply to  Sally Perry
6, May 2020 11:18 am

Are you threatening me publicly ?

Sally Perry
Admin
Reply to  Spartacus
6, May 2020 11:33 am

It’s really simple – You are very welcome to comment, within the House Rules.

These comments by you are neither informative or positive (See house rules).

You’ve had two notices that you are in breach of House Rules.

Another breach will lead to blacklisting.

Karma
Reply to  horace
5, May 2020 10:38 pm

Anyone who’s got any sense will wait and download the App being created by Apple/Google because it will provide greater protection to the individual. Your comments above are totally disrespectful & inappropriate; how blasé to say “don’t worry” this is a huge worry to us all. We all know life will NEVER return to any sense of normality until a vaccine is produced. Think on!

Karma
Reply to  Karma
5, May 2020 11:13 pm

For clarity my comments are for Horace.

horace
Reply to  Karma
6, May 2020 8:31 am

For clarity, my comments relate to the app.
Don’t worry about it if you’re not going to use it.
We all worry about COVID

Spartacus
Reply to  horace
6, May 2020 11:01 am

Follow the lockdown restrictions and wear your home made PPE if your worried. If you do this you will minimise the risk of getting the disease because that’s the only proven way to protect you and others. This App will do nothing it’s a hidden agenda to remove lockdown, other sensible countries are not taking it up.

greenfiremouse
Reply to  Spartacus
6, May 2020 9:10 am

I have also noticed that the polls about support for the app, predictably carried out by the CP and Isle of Wight Radio, totally bypassed me. As I am a fairly avid daily online reader, I am not certain how this could have happened. A specially set up Facebook group for likely supporters, maybe? No one I have spoken to during the past few days had anything… Read more »

Mark L Francis
5, May 2020 9:27 pm

Anyway I get this email from Sainsbury’s saying I can have priority for deliveries because “The Government” told them. I really don’t mind, but all this apparatus about Data Protection & Confidentiality & EC Data thing & Information Commission etc. employing armies of staff and the Government shares my medical information with a supermarket.

wellsm
5, May 2020 10:59 pm

Oh dear, the antis are out in force today proclaiming their “rights” etc etc. I will certainly be downloading the app when it becomes available to me. I don’t really care who knows where I am or where I have been as I have nothing to hide. Oh and anyway, probably Google has all that data on me anyway. In my opinion, if this app goes anyway… Read more »

Spartacus
Reply to  wellsm
5, May 2020 11:18 pm

I don’t care either, but I do care about the health and well being of others and the rights people worked hard to get. In other countries they shoot people and you end up in a ditch if you stand up for your rights. It’s called democracy and Socialism, not autocracy and Neo Liberalist Conservatism.

traveller
6, May 2020 12:11 pm

What an interesting and mysterious life some of you lead. How about dropping the paranoia and self importance and try helping others for a change.

Spartacus
7, May 2020 6:49 pm

Apparently it seems more people are out and about since the app has been launched perhaps as many commentators have said is offering a false sense of security, which is a real concern as lockdown restrictions are still in place. This controversial app as the Guardian states is “not a get out of jail free card” There is a need to adhere to lockdowns restrictions until informed… Read more »

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