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Isle of Wight Conservatives launch ‘the Island conversation’

The mystery of the Isle of Wight group of Conservative councillors press launch has been revealed this morning with the arrival of this press release from Chris Whitehouse. Ed


“We want our Island to be the best place in the country to live and work.” says Cllr Dave Stewart, Leader of the Conservative Councillors on the Isle of Wight Council.

The Conservative Group of Isle of Wight Councillors has today launched a major consultation with the Island community to develop “a shared vision for the future of our Island”.

The explanatory document (embedded below), which will be circulated and communicated to thousands of Island residents, businesses, charities, schools and service providers, asks 12 questions – the responses to which will help shape Conservative Group policies in the run-up to the next local council elections in May 2017.

Conservative Group Leader, Cllr Dave Stewart says:

“We want our Island to be the best place in the country to live and work. To achieve this vision we want to engage with all parts of our community – our residents, our young people, our businesses, everyone who has a stake in our Island to make this vision become a reality. We cannot simply moan about how tight finances are, as challenging as they may be, we need to change the way the Isle of Wight Council thinks and works so it can live within it’s means and still enable the community to create success.

”We need to embed a professional and business-like approach within the council; ensuring we‘re making the best use of all our resources in the most efficient way, working in partnership with the public, private and voluntary sectors, as we support our community and ensure essential services are delivered.”

Five top priorities
The Conservatives identify five top priorities in their paper:

  • protecting our community
  • preserving the environment
  • growing our economy
  • supporting our residents
  • creating opportunity for all

The questionnaire will shortly be published on the Conservatives’ Website and will be followed by consultation meetings involving schools, colleges, businesses, charities, town and parish councils, and those who provide and use local services.

Cllr Stewart says,

“We want this consultation to be genuine, to be deep and to be effective in helping us determine the right policies for the future of our Island.”

Launch event
The launch of the document at the Riverside Centre, Newport, was attended by the Isle of Wight Conservative MP, Andrew Turner, as well as other Conservative Councillors. It highlighted the record of the current Independent administration and provided an alternative approach for the future.

Cllr Stewart argues,

“If the current ‘Independent’ administration were to put half as much energy into innovative thinking about the way in which the Council could operate as they do into blaming others and talking down the Island’s prospects, perhaps they wouldn’t be in the mess they are in now. Blaming everyone else for the economic position is simply not good enough and needs to stop before even more businesses lose confidence and are persuaded not to invest here.”

In concluding the launch, Councillor Stewart said:

“So, let’s move forward with a more positive approach, draw on the experience, knowledge and talent of all those in our communities who see a future for our Island and want to contribute their skills and ideas to help achieve it. We will do our part by working with Government, with our Island MP and with our Island community to address the current challenges and achieve our vision of success.

“That’s what the “Island Conversation” is all about!”


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Looking the other direction
1, February 2016 11:00 am

Ha ha ha. Of course, none of these problems have anything to do with the Conservative government withholding the tax revenue that should be rightfully delivered to the council for its survival! Neither do any of the problems have anything to do with the last Conservative administration at County Hall that destroyed the school system on the Island. Nice attempt at trying to blame everyone but the… Read more »

ThomasC
Reply to  Looking the other direction
1, February 2016 12:30 pm

You’ve missed out the Tories stringing up the IWC to pay £7m a year on the PFI scheme after spending about £1m a year in the lead up to the awarding of this incompetently architectured contract.

CB500
1, February 2016 11:01 am

The Liberals ( sorry independents ) certainly aren’t perfect but how the hell the Tories have the bare faced cheek to publish these claims is beyond me. I’d say more but I’m too outraged to think properly. I’m off to punch an inanimate object now..

Cicero
1, February 2016 11:03 am

“The Conservatives identify five top priorities in their paper:

protecting our community
preserving the environment
growing our economy
supporting our residents”

Does that mean Dave Stewart and the IWC Conservative group will vote against fracking, even more large scale development like Pennyfeathers, Gurnard and Blanchards and the austerity bidget imposed on IWC by the friends in Westminster??

If not, why not?

Man in Black
1, February 2016 11:08 am

If the situation on the Isle of Wight (because of the Conservatives) wasn’t so tragic, this press release would be hilarious.

Colin
1, February 2016 11:16 am

Reads like a load of political spin.

The last desperate act of a doomed relationship, “we need to talk, I’m listening”

Mason Watch
1, February 2016 11:26 am

Any chance of reality seeping into the Conservative party world. The MP is a figure of fun except in the world of big cats and Central Government is screwing the Island into the ground. What exactly is this bunch of no hopers going to do with the information? What a shambles……

Cicero
1, February 2016 11:37 am

Given the performance of the Conservative IWC Is the following blame game not the height of hypocrisy? • bottom of national league tables for adult care • bottom of South East Region school league tables • failing to secure grant funding from the Solent Local Enterprise Partnership • slashing services • closing more toilets • abolishing free parking periods • making front line and backroom sta redundant… Read more »

Cicero
Reply to  Cicero
1, February 2016 3:03 pm

It looks like IWCA and the Papal Knight have shot themselves in the foot with is one?

Cicero
Reply to  Cicero
1, February 2016 3:04 pm

(Th)is one?

Dave
1, February 2016 11:40 am

Outrageous spin and overlooking the fact that is the Westminster Tories that have plunged the council into its current crisis. It is shameful the way that it slopey shoulders off the Tories part in this crisis.

I am sure they will get the answers they are looking for as this is a by Tories for Tories propaganda exercise.

Vix Lowthion
1, February 2016 11:40 am

Is this leaflet going through every door?

Cicero
Reply to  Vix Lowthion
1, February 2016 11:43 am

Hopefully it is not printed on shiny paper Vix or it might replace the Daily Heil in some WCs! :-))

tiki
1, February 2016 12:35 pm

If they don’t know by now they don’t deserve to be in power.

ThomasC
1, February 2016 12:35 pm

It’s OK – there are some ready suggestions to help the Tory Councillors achieve their aims: protecting our community – all stand down and make way for people who actually care about the community preserving the environment – all stand down and make way for people who actually care about the environment growing our economy – all stand down and make way for people who actually care… Read more »

Mrs Retired Hack
Reply to  ThomasC
1, February 2016 1:05 pm

Very witty, Thomas C. It would be interesting to see the amount of spin necessary to turn, say, 500 replies along those lines into something Tory-positive – but I’m sure it would be done.?

Old Knobby
Reply to  Mrs Retired Hack
2, February 2016 7:25 am

Even majority of the posters on the IWCP story are posting similar comments. If they’re looking for things we’d like to see less of then tory MPs and councillors would be a good start.

Cicero
1, February 2016 12:42 pm

One wonders who is advising IWCA on its flawed political strategy?

Karen
1, February 2016 12:51 pm

This document is a joke, I can not take it seriously in anyway.

Chris
1, February 2016 1:11 pm

Hahahaha do they take us for idiots?

ThomasC
Reply to  Chris
1, February 2016 3:14 pm

Yes and with many people, disappointingly, they’re right.

This is how we have a Conservative majority government and A. Turnip as our MP.

Rod Manley
1, February 2016 1:12 pm

It’s unfortunate that the Conservative Party is attempting to consolidate on the basis of mobilising the middle ground, an area that has been relatively untouched by Austerity.This is the start of their election campaign for 18 months time! The aim has been to to the petty bourgeois tax payer and homeowner when they talk about all parts of the community including small business and “stakeholders”. This why… Read more »

Luisa Hillard
1, February 2016 2:07 pm

I am rather concerned that up to 25% of voters might actually believe this worthless piece of fantasy and propaganda.

Empty promises undeliverable without either money or staff.

Government cuts conveniently forgotten and the Independents blamed, as expected.

I’d like to say more but can’t without seriously breaching my principles of being respectful.

Frank James
1, February 2016 2:07 pm

I can see why this unconvincing exercise is much less welcome than, say, the more useful island conversation the cons. didn’t like four years ago (the ‘state of the island debate’ in Jan.2012).

Or all the other helpful conversations here OTW, and in Private Eye, and so on.

Frank James
1, February 2016 2:20 pm

“We want our Island to be the best place in the country to live and work.” We don’t want the rest of our country to also be a good place to live and work? We don’t want the rest of our world to be a good place to live and work? We just want your votes and taxes and we want you to put up with all… Read more »

sam salt
1, February 2016 2:36 pm

Just out of interest I went to the IW Conservative website to see if the BIG consultation document was there. Needless to say it wasn’t. All this hype you would have thought that the consultation would have been ready at the launch. However the visit raised other concerns about the capabilities of the group. Firstly they are still showing Miss Julie Jones-Evans as a Conservative Councillor. She… Read more »

Vix Lowthion
1, February 2016 2:39 pm

Disappointed with this predictable partisan approach to a ‘consultation’. This isn’t a launch of a conversation. The pamphlet is an out and out attack on the Council, blaming it for everything that has gone wrong in the last few years, and completely ignoring the role that a Conservative led government has had in creating problems since 2010. Even their listed priorities are almost identical to the Independent… Read more »

Frank James
1, February 2016 2:46 pm

‘Our friends – greedy gambling failed bankers, filthy frackers, Trident salesmen, HS2 wreckers, and so on – simply cannot moan about how tight finances are, because we have changed the way Councils and government work so that our friends needn’t worry about living within their means.’ ‘We will enable the community to create success by transferring their money and power to our greedy friends, leaving them no… Read more »

Golightly
1, February 2016 3:17 pm

Not satisfied with stealing the family silver, and selling off the UK to the highest bidder the Tories want everyone else to take the blame for their incompetence.
What apiece of utter nonsense this is ,have you no shame at all ?
Or are you living on another planet altogether,
The Tories the party that made Britain ..GRATE ….

I.Reader
Reply to  Golightly
1, February 2016 9:21 pm

…and who put the n in cuts, as pointed out some time ago by Sandi Toksvig on Radio 4.

Terry Carpenter
1, February 2016 3:24 pm

The Conservative Councillors have proved that it’s no longer necessarry to go to the butcher to get tripe. They will even do home delivery, by shoving their tripe through your letter box!

Fred Karno
1, February 2016 3:49 pm

Unbelievable. You couldn’t make this up if you tried. Talk about “When in a hole stop digging”. It will be interesting to see which of the IW Councillors get axed. No I haven’t gone mad. It should be apparent by now that the only future involves being taken over and incorporated into Hampshire County Council, as used to be the way the Island was run years ago.… Read more »

Cicero
Reply to  Fred Karno
1, February 2016 3:59 pm

Be careful what you wish for.

Hampshire County Council
Conservatives 45 / 78
Liberal Democrats 17 / 78
UKIP 10 / 78
Labour 4 / 78

Jonathan Bacon
Reply to  Fred Karno
1, February 2016 8:32 pm

Hampshire cannot be so closely compared with the Isle of Wight. The Isle of Wight is a Unitary Authority whereas Hampshire is two tier as it also contains 11 District Councils which in total means there are about 500 Councillors across the area if you exclude the other two Unitary Authorities (Portsmouth and Southampton).

block8
1, February 2016 3:52 pm

Stewart is the only person I know who makes Pugh look talented.

Ali Hayden.
1, February 2016 4:50 pm

What a joke. The very same Conservative Councillors that take every opportunity to disrupt Full Council meetings by playing party politics rather than facing the challenges + lack of funding to the Island? Protect local communities? What by having funding cut by central government to the Isle Of Wight Council so that local Town + Parish Councils are forced to take them on otherwise the local community… Read more »

Robert Jones
1, February 2016 6:27 pm

Well, that’s gone down like a lead balloon, hasn’t it …..? I don’t think I’ve ever read a document from any political party, including the Tories, that was so full of vacuous cliché and slogan, and so bereft of anything substantial. We’d like to make the island the best place to live and work, would we? Is that before or after the achievement of world peace and… Read more »

tiki
1, February 2016 7:26 pm

I just hope Pugh isn’t part of the great master plan.

I.Reader
Reply to  tiki
1, February 2016 8:29 pm

Although Islanders understandably seem to prefer his conversations, rather than those from the Conservative MP and government, on the subject of ending the Island Line rail service.

Phil Marsh
Reply to  I.Reader
2, February 2016 6:32 pm

This conversation. How can we believe any of it when he absolutely refuses to be interviewed by a railway journalist on his views about Island Line?

Skippy
1, February 2016 8:13 pm

The simple answer is not pedal the austerity myth and lobby your goverment. Most of all say no to any cuts!

Luisa Hillard
1, February 2016 9:36 pm

Anyone read the Council’s corporate priorities recently?

Ecclesiastes 1:9
What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun

Vix Lowthion
1, February 2016 9:49 pm

Why have no conservative supporters posted comments here to support this huge initiative on their part?

In Denial
Reply to  Vix Lowthion
1, February 2016 10:19 pm

Very few genuine conservatives could support the Island Conservatives. The behaviour of the last council (e.g. The PFI) was simply atrocious. Very few genuine conservatives believe the current MP is of any value to the Island! So why did genuine conservatives still vote Tory at the last general election? Because they were terrified of UKIP, Labour and the SNP. It’s that simple!!! In recent weeks this forum,… Read more »

Frank James
Reply to  In Denial
1, February 2016 11:07 pm

So, things are getting worse because of terrified tory voters? And the massive (and still rising) debts have nothing to do with con. spending and borrowing? And no money for services is being used instead for Trident, HS2, privatisation profits, bailing out reckless bankers, corporate welfare, helping filthy frackers, and so on? Even ‘genuine’ con. voters are getting fed up with being conned; not paying any less,… Read more »

In Denial
Reply to  Frank James
2, February 2016 12:40 am

That’s right! A lot of sensible voters are terrified of the return to “loony left” policies! The other reason many choose not to engage in debate maybe that they can’t stand the hypocracy. Remind me again who was in power when the defecit was created? Remind me again who was in power when the bankers were bailed out? Remind me again how much tax large corporations were… Read more »

Hermit
Reply to  In Denial
2, February 2016 7:40 am

George Osborne, inherits £811bn of debt, reduces it to £1505bn, anyone else would be fired! Who’s in denial now!

In Denial
Reply to  In Denial
2, February 2016 8:33 am

Maybe it’s because he also inherited spending commitments that exceeded income by £125 billion per annum. In other words he inherited a debt that was increasing at £125 billion every year and included interest payments of £60 billion and growing. From the comments posted on this forum most of the readers object to cuts in those spending commitments yet not one person has articulated how they would… Read more »

Cicero
Reply to  In Denial
2, February 2016 9:30 am

In 2010 the Tories inherited National Debt at 40% GDP: in December 2015 has more than doubled to 81% GDP. 2008-2015 – public sector debt has increased sharply because of: 2008-13 recession (lower tax receipts, higher spending on unemployment benefits) The recession particularly hit stamp duty (falling house prices) income tax and lower corporation tax. These cyclical factors have also exposed an underlying structural deficit. (deficit caused… Read more »

Frank James
Reply to  In Denial
2, February 2016 9:36 am

Pay attention ID. Helpful suggestions are regularly mentioned here and elsewhere. This item is generated by the local cons. saying they want to talk about the Island, so straying too far into the familiar national ‘both parties on the government see-saw are blameworthy’ dead end is not helping. For the help you seek, start by looking at what was posted above at 2:46pm yesterday. To help you… Read more »

In Denial
Reply to  In Denial
2, February 2016 10:34 am

Cicero Interesting that you quote the period 2008-2015. 2008 was of course a labour Government. 2010-2015 was of a course a coalition Government. I clearly do understand the difference between debt and deficit – that’s exactly the point I was making to Frank James. At the time of the 2010 election the deficit was increasing by £125 billion every year! Is it a surprise therefore that the… Read more »

In Denial
Reply to  In Denial
2, February 2016 10:41 am

Frank James – you may wish to abandon Trident but many others (including most of the Labour front bench) don’t. Even if you cancel Trident, any saving will be distributed over 30 years so you reduce the current deficit by less than £1 billion. As for HS2, I don’t have the statistics but again I suspect that the savings there today are very small compared to the… Read more »

Cicero
Reply to  In Denial
2, February 2016 11:44 am

ID I agree that deregulation of the finance market in the US and the UK was a mistake. However it was (according to the FT) a legacy of the Thatcher years. However I do not recall the Conservative Party in opposition voting against the deregulation and the setting up of the FSA (now emasculated by Osborne. In fact Cameron in 2007 said: “We need to make it… Read more »

Cicero
Reply to  In Denial
2, February 2016 11:47 am

ratio(n)

In Denial
Reply to  In Denial
2, February 2016 12:13 pm

Cicero – I fully agree that the de-regulation of the financial industry is a more complex issue than any headline would suggest. Similarly, I believe the whole financial crisis is far more complex than many like to accept. I did not come here to be an apologist for either the Tories or the Bankers. I simply responded to the massive over simplification of complex issues. My response… Read more »

Frank James
Reply to  In Denial
3, February 2016 9:21 am

I see that ID can still use a little help. To pay for Trident would apparently cost us about £100 billion, money that could be saved or spent on something better than weapons that would, if used, very probably make life not worth living for any survivors anywhere on the planet, and which failed to deter the invasion of the Falklands, U.K. terrorist attacks, and our underfunded… Read more »

Mcduff
1, February 2016 10:07 pm

“they’re asking Islanders what they’d like to see more or less of on the Isle of Wight.”

Tories. Less of.

Ali Hayden.
1, February 2016 10:22 pm

All I would like to see is EVERY ELECTED COUNCILLOR doing the best they possibly can for the residents that elected them. To engage with each other to benefit the Island. To always attend Full Council meetings.To also attend any meetings + briefings which give information relevant to Full Council meetings. To realise just how much the Island + its residents are going to suffer when these… Read more »

Vix Lowthion
Reply to  Ali Hayden.
1, February 2016 10:29 pm

You cannot leave the politics out of the Council. Because decisions about where to prioritise funding are politics. Some believe in higher taxation for those who can afford it. Others believe in lower taxation for everyone. Some think we will protect the environment by banning fracking. Others believe that fracking is the economic solution to our energy needs. But yes – there’s a basic standard for how… Read more »

Ali Hayden.
Reply to  Vix Lowthion
1, February 2016 10:50 pm

I meant thier party politics! They have no place at Local Council level.

Vix Lowthion
Reply to  Vix Lowthion
1, February 2016 10:54 pm

Completely agree that playing games like this and previous weeks is a total waste of time and energy. But parties can provide useful shorthand for people, to understand what they stand for eg austerity? Oil companies? Workers’ rights? Stay in Europe? Public services? All of those can be justified to be good for the island as well as bad for the island. To elect someone to best… Read more »

steve stubbings
1, February 2016 10:42 pm

Interestingly, Cllr Whitehouse was at the Riverside this morning, overseeing the secret launch of his shiny new lead balloon ‘initiative’ but (as usual!) failed to attend the really important all-member budget briefing at County Hall this afternoon. Hmmmm

Nitonia
2, February 2016 8:20 am

Myself and other members of the Niton community would prefer it if our democratically elected Councillor could pay attention to some of the worrying developments in our village at present. Instead he is engaging on a PR stunt that is so spectacularly inane and vacuous (thank you Robert Jones!) that one must question what his motives are. Trying to blame the present administration for the cuts to… Read more »

Mark Francis
2, February 2016 8:22 am

Might I be of assistance in designing the Tory’s questionnaire?

(picture of Eric Gumby on cover)

Tell us wot ter fink!
Tell us wot ter fink!
Tell us wot ter fink!
(etc.)

(printed on absorbent & perforated paper to be instantly recyclable)

I think I should have pursued a career in graphic design.

Cicero
Reply to  Mark Francis
2, February 2016 9:49 am

Maybe IWCA have been watching past episodes of Spike Milligan’s Q8.

His sketches often had no finish or punch-line, ending with the cast heading towards the camera intoning, “What are we going to do now?” or simply merging into another completely unrelated skit.

Sounds like IWCA’s recent tactic! :-))

76offset
2, February 2016 11:14 am

Concerning this fatuous statement that looks like it’s been cooked up in the blue skies section of Tory central office, It appears the bonfires of discontent are stoked up at last. I have tried on this blog, to support Vix Lowthian’s comments but found the opinion counter unresponsive. I would wish this was due to it being unable to cope with the number of endorsements, but experience… Read more »