Letter: The Isle of Wight could be UK testing area for driverless cars. Good idea?

Driverless cars are coming. With its closed boundary, the Isle of Wight could be a great testing area for this technology, bringing income, jobs and high tech companies to the Island, suggests an OnTheWight reader. Do you agree?

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We always welcome a Letter to the Editor to share with our readers – unsurprisingly they don’t always reflect the views of this publication. If you have something you’d like to share, get in touch and of course, your considered comments are welcome below. This from Chris Innis in Niton. Ed


The Island is looking for new industries, and historically it has always been a place for new industry. The driverless car will be the smart phone of the future, providing similar changes in social behaviour that have occurred from the fixed to the mobile phone.

Why not make the Isle of Wight the site for testing driverless cars in the UK?

Several advantages
We are a well defined area and sea boundaries mean that no driveless car can escape. Our road system is varied lending itself to testing.

We have an older population and an older population will be one of the main beneficiaries of the driverless car.

We are close to one of the main ports for importing cars, Southampton. We have the industrial parks and inherent engineering skills.

New skills and higher paid jobs
The pioneering of driverless cars on the Island will bring new jobs, higher paid jobs, technology and new skills.

The jobs will be local, especially important. It will also bring some of the great names in technology and innovation to the Island.

With any Government keen to kept the automotive industry in the UK post Brexit, isn’t this something our political leaders should get behind, a innovative Wight will be a brighter Wight.

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Saturday, 29th October, 2016 1:58pm

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nico

Come back when you have something to relay after talking to Google!

Geek

Why Google? They’re not the only people developing self-driving cars.

I think this is a great idea.

Bring it on!

possibly
THis is a great idea. However, engineering companies on the Island, of which there are around 100, are more interested in attracting graduates from the mainland than training up home-grown talent. If industry were to contribute more, with work experience and apprenticeships, with time out for University in between work, students could achieve a degree over maybe 4-5 years, and get industry experience at the same time.… Read more »
Rob

In that case we will have to go back to first principle. With a man / woman walking in front with a red flag for safety.

One pedestrian has already has died on a public road in America due to a driver less car accident.
ONE TO MANY. THEY ARE NOT SAFE.

DaveIOW

I wonder if Google can retrofit their driverless tech to an old Enfield 8000..?

nico

Ha ha, nice one! But it may not be the glossy image they’re looking for, shame :/

CHRIS
A whole spectrum of industries are looking at drive less cars, it isn’t just Google, every software company, every automotive manufacturer, groups in tele metrics and you could go further. It is not just about the cars but insurers will be interested to set risk premiums, police in new traffic laws, signage companies in signage. We have a tradition of innovation, lost in recent years, let’s get… Read more »
Island Monkey
Terrible idea, the problem with this is simple, it’s about speed and control. Can you seriously imagine this new Orwellian utopia, where Big Brother restricts all of us by imposing speed limits on our vehicles? They’re already doing it subtly, calling them ‘smart motorways’- which effectively force you to comply with the law, or else face hefty fines and a ban. Much of the M25 has cameras… Read more »
retired hack
I think you mean dystopia, but that apart from that, what on earth is any legal system about, utopian or dystopian, if it’s not to “effectively force you to comply with the law, or else face hefty fines and a ban”. If you want to know what happens when motor traffic is subject to no effective means of legal control, you need look no further than India,… Read more »
nico

What Mr Monkey makes me think about, (“control”), is that one day ‘the system’ will be able to slow down and stop your car by itself, a new kind of ‘stop and search’!

paranoid android

If you dont want a hefty fine and a ban, drive within the speed limit.

Driving “more slowly” prevents people dying.

Driverless cars are a good idea – once they begin working. Realistically, its likely to end up with automated motorways and self drive towns and cities – which is exactly how it should be.

CHRIS P LAMB

“Driverless cars are a good idea” Ask the relatives of the dead American whose driverless car crashed due to a squashed moth on the camera. That’s something they hadn’t thought of.

DaveIOW
That story is apocryphal. A car being tested handed back control to the human driver when a moth got on one of the sensors. The driver stopped the car safely. That problem has now been addressed. Where well designed computer driven cars are better than human operators is that they don’t: Get tired Drink Take drugs Sing along to soft rock classics and do air grabs Get… Read more »
Suruk the Slightly Miffed
The Autopilot on a Tesla Model S was, indeed, disabled by a moth in the sensor and, as you say, the car safely handed control back to the driver. There has been one fatality involving Tesla Autopilot, where a Tesla Model S collided with an large 18 wheel articulated lorry. The investigation has determined that the accident was caused by the Autopilot’s failure to differentiate between the… Read more »
DaveIOW
I’m not sure if IM is: a. Trolling b. Dangerously paranoid about the control an oppressive state wants over every element of his life c. Incredibly selfish to the extent that his desire to drive quickly is more important than everyone else’s expectation of sensible safety precautions Perhaps he can enlighten me? For my view, anything that moves the balance towards a safer society without undue limitation… Read more »
Island Monkey

If Big Brother is able to convince the majority that these control measures are for the common good, then we’re all doomed to live in an increasingly controlled world. Where’s David Icke when you need him?

You don’t have to think for yourself here, it’s all laid on.

DaveIOW

So it was “B”.

Thanks.

nico
A bit strong in response to IM, Daveiow. Not the way to change minds, imho, apart from anything else, and putting yourself more in the position of what you attribute to him. I think the issue of a generally more controlled society is an interesting one to discuss. I see there was a report in July this year of a death in a driverless car – from… Read more »
paranoid android
Island Monkey will never change his mind. He enjoys taking the worst possible view of everything and values argument over everything else – not that he participates after a while, but he seems to like starting arguments for others to pursue. The answer was, in fact, A. “The company claimed that both the unnamed driver and its technology had failed to notice the imminent danger just before… Read more »
nico
I think the term ‘troll’ needs to be strictly reserved for something at an extreme – and then there’s no doubting it. You don’t ask yourself whether someone’s trolling or not, it’s blindingly and nastily obvious! And how many of us change our minds? :s Or like to be argumentative? :s There wouldn’t be much going on here if people didn’t argue. You need people to ‘prime’… Read more »
paranoid android

look up the definition of a troll.

there is no need to be argumentative in a discussion. People can have opposing viewpoints without starting arguments.

nico

And I think IM was presenting a pov that others may not like, but it’s fair enough he says it.

The issue of increasing surveillance in our lives, and the balance of benefit and loss of autonomy, is up for grabs.

paranoid android
and others gave their point of view – one of which was that IM was possibly a troll, which happens to tie in with my point of view. Im not sure why others giving their point of view seems to be a problem for you? I could perhaps understand it if someone called you a troll and you defended yourself. IM is quite capable of defending himself… Read more »
nico

Well, if you’re averse to disagreements on a forum, p.a, (what you call having “a problem”), similarly, to having a view on someone else’s post and how it is treated by others, then there’s really nowhere left to go.

In any case this has become tiresome, (at least to me), as well as off topic, so I’m leaving it here.

paranoid android
Stop putting words in my mouth. I am not adverse to disagreements. You seem to have a problem with DaveIOW and myself saying that IM is possibly a troll. You COULD have simply said you disagreed and moved on. Instead, you decided to tell us that the term Troll should be reserved for extremes. Thats your point of view, and thats fine if you just tell us… Read more »
Suruk the Slightly Miffed

Ummmm, we already have speed limits imposed.

It’s just some idiots choose to ignore them.

John Gutheil

What happens to the Drink Driving Law if your ‘re not driving the car???

paranoid android

The drink drive laws will still apply – the occupants of a car must be capable of taking over if technology fails.

SaferRoadsPlease
Driverless cars potentially offer a great solution to a major problem on the island. In rural locations, with poor public transport, everyone is dependent on the car. However, the demographics of the island mean that there are a lot of old people on the roads. The majority are excellent, experienced and highly competent drivers. Unfortunately, though, there is a significant minority that really should no longer be… Read more »
doughnut

All for new technology coming to the island, but can you imagine trying to programme a driverless car getting round Coppins Bridge? Ohhh I don’t know though….could be better than the way some tackle it!

nico

And what about the necessity for mind reading at mini roundabouts? Although sometimes it seems from the general stasis as though cars there are already driverless :s

Kerry yeomans

It might improve the driving standards ????

Oldie

Who is supposed to be buying these driverless cars for all these Island drivers, many of whom currently drive old bangers over a decade old? They aren’t exactly cheap.

trainofthought

Driverless cars? We need less cars of any sort on the roads, anything else is greenwash.

There is no quick fix: Our Government needs to invest in a decent Public Transport system – not more runways or “smart” motorways or high status speed rail projects, but good, local, affordable non-privatised Public Transport.

Time to bring back the trains to the Island!

paranoid android

yeah… bring the trains back.

And watch them run empty whilst everyone drives their cars because its more convenient, cheaper, and not subject to cancellations because of the wrong kind of coffee and a lack of hot chocolate.

Trainofthought
Oil is running out and will soon get more expensive. Cars are not the future: Even electric cars cost a lot of resources to produce and contribute to small particulate emissions as the weight of the battery makes breaks and tires wear more quickly. Electric trains – preferably powered by renewables – are more efficient as they take more people in one go. If they are affordable,… Read more »
paranoid android
The weight of the engine in a car wears the brakes and tyres just as much if not more than batteries do. Engines also produce a hell of a lot more small particle emissions in their exhaust. Trains require massive amounts of power – running them off renewables is not feasible at this time. Privatising trains is the only way to run them properly. British Rail was… Read more »
Suruk the Slightly Miffed
Some interesting figures. Various forms of transport converted to equivalent mpg: Family electric car : 110 mpg Modern small 900cc turbo car (Daihatsu Charade) : 100mpg Small Turbo Diesel : 70 mpg Petrol Hybrid (Toyota Prius) : 66 mpg Modern airliner : 109 passenger miles per gallon Cruise ship : 20 passenger miles per gallon Train (US) : 562 passenger miles per gallon Modern Bus (full) :… Read more »
DaveIOW
I think we’ve all known for many years that the most efficient form of transport is the bicycle. But laziness and a lack of infrastructure prevents us from taking up cycling as a regular mode of transport. I’m sure if many of us had secure bicycle storage and a shower facility at work, we’d soon start cycling to work. Cycle paths that are physically separated from motorised… Read more »
Fazza

What a ridiculous idea. I find the comment “older population will be one of the main beneficiaries of the driverless car” an insult to mature drivers. As a very experienced driver in all licence categories and in the past was a driving accessor, the worst drivers on the island seem to be the Yummy Mummy’s who have tunnel vision and no idea of road law etc.

DaveIOW

The available evidence suggests that both views are wrong.

The drivers most likely to be involved in an accident are young men.

nico

Was with you all the way, Fazza, till your casually offensive remark about mothers, who presumably will have as much knowledge of road law as anyone else who’s passed their driving test.

And we’re all prone to tunnel vison for a multitude of reasons, such as the way we pick on a group and blame them.

Fazza
I can only comment on my experience whilst driving on the island. It is not offensive to mention a certain group of people whom in majority I have seen driving in an arrogant way without giving way when possible in narrow lanes etc. We all learn the Highway Code and unfortunately our driving standards drop after passing the driving test. I find your comment offensive that I… Read more »
DaveIOW

I’m really looking forward to Nico’s explanation of how “Yummy Mummy” is a demeaning and pejorative term.

That Fazza doesn’t immediately see that is a terrifying betrayal of his underlying values.

nico

In 2 posts, no mention at all of children to suggest ‘Mummy’.
Sounds as though being female may be sufficient to condemn a driver!

I’m not sure how a forum is supposed to work if we can’t bounce off each others’ comments and agree or disagree.

Daveiow :)

Peter Geach

Weve got mindless driving! Why not go the next stage and have driverless cars!

Common Sense

Because driverless cars ARE mindless driving. Also, it costs millions to instal the scheme, money that would be much better spent on good, decent Public Transport and Cycleways….

the auditor

After careful assessment of the abysmal standard of driving on the Isle of Wight during my last visit, driverless cars will probably be a significant improvement to road safety…

powerunseen

We won’t have anyone to shake our fist at.

sootywight

Perhaps we should also test out driving on the right.

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