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Live coverage of November Executive meeting

Sally Perry·

OnTheWight are reporting live from County Hall for tonight’s Isle of Wight council Executive meeting.

The live updates that appear below from inside the chamber at County Hall will automatically refresh in the page. However, to see latest comments added to the article, you’ll need to refresh the page. Items in double brackets (()) indicate comment from the author.

Follow the link above for the set of papers being discussed.

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Victor Meldrew
11, November 2014 7:33 pm

So IW Council will graciously allow Freshwater Parish Council to apply to run a car park that the Parish already owns and the ill-informed Cllr Hillard has the temerity to tell her fellows that the concerns of residents have been considered. Considered, yes! Then discounted and ignored? You couldn’t make this up, could you?

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tryme
11, November 2014 8:10 pm

18.12 Disappointing David didn’t mention the Shewee. 18.27 I like the positive tone of Cllr Stephens. 18.49 “30 mins is always adequate for me” – can I join Sally’s surgery please? 19.16 “the media have grabbed the idea that toilets will be closed”. Yes, today wasn’t to vote on closing them, but to vote on consulting. 19.18 “It could be a form of advertising for the retailer”… Read more »

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davidwalter
12, November 2014 12:29 am

tryme — We had an evening of nudge-nudge wink-wink jokes Tony Blackburn would reject … “this is muddying the water”, “the motion was carried…” it relieved the tension ;-) No prizes for guessing which councillor from Brading addressed the Executive about their experience of defunct public lavatories. Yup! And a very good presentation, I might add, Cllr …… :-)

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tryme
Reply to  davidwalter
12, November 2014 5:36 pm

I was afraid of that, David. No doubt one had to be there! Possibly there were also ‘income streams’ that sent a few men rushing out of the chamber, vying for the cloakrooms. We would all have appreciated the atmosphere if only a simple live-streaming (oops) system was set up. I’m dying to hear if this is being considered, though I appreciate that without assurances to focus… Read more »

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island guerrilla
12, November 2014 8:00 am

Thanks to on the wight for all your efforts.

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Michael G
12, November 2014 8:41 am

Thanks for the coverage last night. I saw your tweet about the fire alarm going off, any idea what the problem was?

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tryme
Reply to  Michael G
12, November 2014 11:45 pm

Apparently Cllr Stephens was having a quick fag …

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derek
12, November 2014 11:08 am

This SmileGov is about Sustainable Energy Action Plans.So Is this going to be enough to help th Isle Of Wight Economy.The problem is the way the Isle Of Wight Council/MP go about trying to secure funds for Economic Funding they do not put forward strong enough cases and easily get fobbed off,while other areas get it.Like AAS it took others to get it,start it and see it… Read more »

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derek
Reply to  derek
12, November 2014 2:12 pm

This SmileGov is a change of direction by the IWC, because they are weak on the Solent LEP,and with Government/EU.SmileGov is about Sustainable Energy Action Plans and will do little for the Island Economy it is a diversion.The Island can not rely on Tourism alone, investment in manufacturing and Social House Building for Islanders. Also Training in skills and real apprenticeships funded by Government/EU.This is what the… Read more »

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tryme
13, November 2014 10:58 pm

I randomly chose this April 2014 link about Cambridgeshire’s starting to stream their Council meetings. Amusingly, a local (authorised) blogger filmed a blissfully unaware councillor saying in the chamber how obtrusive an influence filming would be on their meetings, uploading the film onto Youtube without the cllr even noticing he’d been filmed in the first place. It proved a point. Cambridgeshire said that “A member of the… Read more »

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tryme
Reply to  tryme
14, November 2014 12:51 pm

Live streaming of Council meetings – Just drawing attention to the above post, as links get caught in moderation and then can be several pages back in WRS when they emerge.

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tryme
Reply to  tryme
14, November 2014 1:50 pm

Under The Openness of Local Government Regulations “The right of journalists and the public to tweet, live-blog and film any local authority meeting in England has become enshrined in law…….. The UK local government secretary Eric Pickles has signed a parliamentary order which aims to bring councils “into the 21st century” and put a stop to what he called “active resistance among some councils to greater openness”….”… Read more »

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davidwalter
14, November 2014 1:50 pm

tryme — I recorded my local parish (Shalfleet) council meeting on Wednesday evening. It caused a rumpus from the councillors who presumably don’t know the rules and know that impeding anyone from recording the meeting is a criminal offence with a max £250 fine. They DO NOT like being recorded. I’ll post the link below, the discussion about it is in the first few minutes. If you… Read more »

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tryme
Reply to  davidwalter
14, November 2014 2:18 pm

Yours seems to be sound recording only, David, and I think we need the filmed full monty and properly see what’s going on in County Hall public meetings.(It’s not often Eric Pickles and I agree!) The Shalfleet experience points to *who* is doing the recording being a potential issue – I believe there’s been a bit of controversy recently about matters concerning your last parish election. That’s… Read more »

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davidwalter
Reply to  tryme
14, November 2014 4:39 pm

You really *do* say some very silly things, sometimes, tryme. You can’t have a biassed or non-neutral microphone! The law states that anyone and everyone can record the entire proceedings. As for certain people wanting a right not to be recorded it’s as daft as demanding that the town CCTV doesn’t film them, or the supermarket photo numberplate recognition system. Anyone who carries a smartphone (aren’t they… Read more »

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tryme
Reply to  davidwalter
14, November 2014 5:09 pm

You misunderstood that point about neutrality, David. It was that if someone involved in a local controversy, (I didn’t mean to refer to it, but I gather that as an unsuccessful parish candidate you criticised aspects of a successful one), individual parish councillors might have their personal reactions to *your* recording in front of them; whereas an official system of recording is likely to be accepted as… Read more »

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davidwalter
Reply to  tryme
14, November 2014 5:39 pm

tryme — I have to put the record straight on this. The Parish Councillors criticised the new councillor. I recorded and published that. The councillors’ words, not my words. On the Wight ran the story so you should know that. If I had not recorded the proceedings then nobody would ever have known about it since there would have been no hard evidence for On the Wight… Read more »

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tryme
Reply to  tryme
14, November 2014 6:20 pm

I think you are demonstrating my point, David. Forgive me for waiting for broader evidence of cost, (would you give the source of your own figure please?), which of course is a factor and hasn’t stopped very many LAs furthering democracy by making public council meetings accessible to a hugely wide band of their public in this way; many of whom will sometimes tune in when there… Read more »

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tryme
14, November 2014 3:30 pm

“Cornwall Council live webcasts its Full Council, Cabinet and Strategic Planning meetings and also those meetings deemed to be of particular public interest”.

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davidwalter
Reply to  tryme
14, November 2014 7:05 pm

tryme — I did a lot of googling which threw up Council debates from around the country in which the costs were set out by Officers for the Members to consider. Those are presumably the kind of figures that would be submitted by our Officers to the Council, if they were asked to do an investigation. At the moment our Officers are stretched to the limit doing… Read more »

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tryme
Reply to  davidwalter
14, November 2014 8:08 pm

As a member of the public I put my case about this, David, and if it is taken any notice of at all, it is councillors who will decide whether it gets as far as costings. (Can’t you give me the specific source of yours then?) As webcasting is happening already in LAs all over the country, I expect an officer’s half hour’s phone calls or simply… Read more »

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tryme
14, November 2014 3:40 pm

Meetings of Hampshire County Council are broadcast on the County Council’s website via live webcasts.

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davidwalter
Reply to  tryme
14, November 2014 4:56 pm

Only very few meetings are webcast. Just the Cabinet meetings which we don’t have any longer.

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tryme
Reply to  davidwalter
14, November 2014 9:23 pm

I hope you weren’t offended by my use of the word ‘geek’, David. I wasn’t thinking of you, but mainly that word has come to mean anyone who’s particularly interested in something, (anything), and I was thinking of people generally. I presume ‘Cabinet’ is similar to ‘Executive’. —————————————— Hampshire County Council: “Upcoming webcasts Cabinet on 27 October 2014 County Council on 27 November 2014 Cabinet on 15… Read more »

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davidwalter
14, November 2014 8:58 pm

tryme — That’s fine, it’s your wish and you’re entitled to it. As for costs I didn’t make notes. Try googling HCC and webcasts in the minutes of past meetings. Or just an email to the council and ask if someone could point you to it? The costs will vary according to what is being asked for. I don’t think I can add any more about costs.… Read more »

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tryme
Reply to  davidwalter
14, November 2014 10:28 pm

Btw I don’t think we can afford to wait til “Maybe when we are past talking about …..”. It’s precisely *because* we always have on the go lots of hot issues that affect us all, that enabling far more of us to get engaged is so important. And webcasting will need to be down in the Chamber because you can’t see quite a few of the councillors… Read more »

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tryme
20, November 2014 10:55 pm

Phil, are there any discussions going on about webcasting public council meetings?

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phil jordan
Reply to  tryme
20, November 2014 11:04 pm

Tryme:

No…we havn’t discussed that at all…

My thoughts would be that there is no objection in our administration whatsoever to this kind of openness and transparency. We could bring a Full Council motion to enable it (at least vote upon it) … I have no idea what the cost *might* be…

I have no problem with this personally…

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tryme
Reply to  phil jordan
20, November 2014 11:12 pm

That would be really good news, Phil, I hope that can happen soon. In my posts under this article there is some indication of the use of webcasting by other Councils, including Hants, so there should be some advice about equipment and costs etc easily available. The Island ‘knows’ its representatives mainly via the media and I think it would benefit us all to see what goes… Read more »

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