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Nick Finney responds to snub accusations (updated)

Last week OnTheWight reported on the award-winning rail journalist who was snubbed by Isle of Wight MP Andrew Turner’s advisors.

In response to the article about how Phil Marsh had been treated, Nick Finney, the MP’s transport advisor, emailed him on Sunday copying in OnTheWight, CP, IWR and the MP, Andrew Turner in.

Nick’s email is reproduced in full below. Philip Marsh’s reply, which makes for interesting reading, will also be published. Ed


Dear Philip,

I have just seen a story published by onthewight about our meeting which was arranged for Thursday based on a number of inaccuracies and misrepresentations.

You know your request for a meeting with Andrew and myself arrived whilst I was away, When I returned, Carole (who was still on leave) telephoned you, and it was agreed that we (you and I) would meet on Wednesday or Thursday the following week, because you would be at your Isle of Wight home.You said (I was present) that your local knowledge was excellent because of your links to the Island. Carole told you that Andrew would be in Westminster, but you asked to meet me anyway saying a quote from Andrew could be added later. Carole offered the use of an office in the Riverside Centre. This was for your convenience because you said in your e-mail you would be on your houseboat in Odessa on Wednesday and Thursday, She said she looked forward to meeting you (a courtesy, as she would be in the Riverside building herself), and left her colleague, XXXX to make final arrangements with you. XXXX (responding to an e-mail you sent referring to meeting Carole and myself) assumed that Carole was included in the meeting.

Andrew’s office was then contacted by Simon Perry who said you had asked him to attend as you told him you lack local knowledge. This e-mail was forwarded to Andrew and me. In view of what you had said previously We thought this was strange, and also wondered why you had asked onthewight to attend rather than the County Press or Isle of Wight radio. Carole (at Andrew’s request) asked you why. Simon Perry then withdrew from attending the interview, as you apparently told him Carole was ‘very nervous’ about him attending. At no time did you consult me about the partisan involvement of one local media outlet. That in itself was discourteous at the least and unprofessional .

You did send some highly technical questions in advance, but as we were due to meet on Thursday they had not been answered in writing and probably wouldn’t have been answered. You said they were based on Andrew wanting Island Line to be outside the franchise (something he has never said). They were also premature given the fundamental need for an independent expert to be appointed by the Council and supported by the DfT.

When Jonathan Bacon announced on Wednesday that they had appointed Christopher Garnett to lead the review into the future of Island Line, Andrew and I decided that it would be inappropriate to Pre-empt the discussion and process which would now occur so I e-mailed you to postpone the meeting at 4.52pm, offering the possibility of meeting you at a later date.

You apparently did not pick up the e-mail and turned up for the meeting, When Carole heard this she telephoned you to apologise that you had been inconvenienced. You told her that the evening before your editor was ‘incandescent’ because the interview had been ‘bounced’, when she pointed out that you said you had not received the e-mail postponing the appointment, you became hectoring and rude (you described it as ‘harsh’). You have now apparently given an extremely distorted account of these events to Simon Parry of onthewight.

I am copying this to onthewight so they can correct their story and also to other local media. I will happily copy it to your ‘five editors’ if you give me their contact details.

Finally, as a volunteer adviser, with some experience of freelance journalists, I have to say that your whole approach seems to me to have been designed to denigrate the office of the IOW MP. You changed your approach, first demanding answers to detailed technical questions, many of which were irrelevant at this stage of events. Then you sent in a further demand that we be prepared to answer questions about location and ability to manufacture light rail units on the Island since that was the main point of the story.

Andrew Turner has tried for nearly a year to persuade the IOW Council to face up to the need for a strategy to improve transport connectivity for the Island.He has recognised the urgent need to modernise the Island line in light of the Government’s declared priorities. He has urged solutions to be explored which could improve passenger experience whilst closing the gap between costs and revenue. Christopher Garnett’s appointment is a game changer. Now we have a professional independent expert able to coordinate the wishes of islanders with practical recommendations and solutions.

There are a number of e-mails undermining your claims, two are below, Whether Andrew sees you or not is a matter for him, I will confine my contribution to the many other trade journalists i know whose approach is more believable.

Nicholas Finney

Article edit
The name of the secretary working in Andrew Turner’s office has been redacted from the article and comments. On reflection, it is not fair for her to be pulled into the discussion. Ed

See more on the Garnett Report.

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Richard
19, October 2015 9:50 pm

Sorry Mr Finney, with all your other underhand and inaccurate contributions I know who I believe more.

” the wishes of Islanders “… You have absouloutly no idea what this means!!

Colin
Reply to  Richard
20, October 2015 1:17 pm

Mr. Finney states that the MP has never said he wants the Island line to be outside the franchise. Who exactly was it then who gave the statement puporting to be from the MP some time ago to the County Press part of which I have cut and pasted from the article. “The MP wants the taskforce to consider removing Island Line from the South West Trains… Read more »

Skippy
19, October 2015 9:52 pm

Hmmmn!

castlewez
19, October 2015 9:56 pm

Why does Finney consider that Garnett’s appointment is a “game changer”? What does he know that we don’t? Seriously though, it does seem that the appointment of the MP’s ex-girlfriend’s adviser’s old business associate Garnett (do keep up) is a move which the adviser (Finney) thinks is a major step forward. Why could this be? Could it be because Finney has had a quiet word with his… Read more »

castlewez
Reply to  castlewez
19, October 2015 9:58 pm

Sorry when I said “ex-girlfriend’s adviser” I actually meant “ex-girlfriend’s new boyfriend”, but hopefully readers will understand what I meant.

It all gets so confusing! It may be easier if I just refer to Finney as the man that cuckolded Turner!

Mambo
19, October 2015 10:02 pm

Does seem to be crossed wires to an extent, but I don’t understand Nick’s aversion to only one island media outlet being invited… individual journalists don’t have to put their publications (or friends) out to tender… do they?

Tobytram
19, October 2015 10:33 pm

Spin, spin, spin by Spinney. This vituperative attack on Phil Marsh is as unprofessional as you can get from this full time ! Unpaid ! ‘volunteer transport advisor’. It would appear that Tigger is unaware or certainly incapable of comprehending what is being done in his and the IOW constituents name by two unelected persons. There appears to be no redress for their shameful behaviour, it is… Read more »

I.Reader
19, October 2015 10:45 pm

“…. based on Andrew wanting Island Line to be outside the franchise (something he has never said).” But we know what he wrote, don’t we? “It’s come to light, thanks to a Freedom of Information request, that in March 2015, MP Andrew Turner requested the support of the government to “establish the task force to transfer the Island Line to an Island-owned community enterprise partnership”.” “I have… Read more »

How Strange
20, October 2015 7:14 am

“He [Turner] has recognised the urgent need to modernise the Island line in light of the Government’s declared priorities.” Thats odd… I thought Turner was asking the government about this in his March letter – long before the government declared their ‘priorities’. Then again, didnt the government tell the council that they had no intention of removing the line from franchise? And then change their minds rapidly… Read more »

Old Knobby
20, October 2015 7:30 am

Shouldn’t Andrew Turner be the one responding to this? I don’t remember seeing Mr Finney’s name on the ballot paper back in May.

Thomas the Tank
20, October 2015 8:14 am

Ya Ya Ya, the usual unpleasantness from the usual suspects to a reasonable explanation of events.

Richard
20, October 2015 9:01 am

Thomas With all due respect, we know how he works, the evidence is there for all to see, from the underhanded way he and our MP have tried to sneak under the radar they’re plans for Islandline to the DfT with the impression that this is what the majority of Islanders want, to the total inaccuracies of comments on Islandline in regards to operational details and subsidies… Read more »

Tobytram
20, October 2015 9:02 am

Is that the response of a parrot/parrots ?? Ya, Ya, Ya or merely how you, and Lady M communicate your intentions to Tigger ? Time for you all to stop playing with people’s lives for your ‘allegedly Libertine’ views and realise that the IOW constituents want something important to all of us, and not for you to ‘milk’ something for your own reasons, whatever they may be… Read more »

lookout
20, October 2015 11:10 am

It is a disgrace that our Member of Parliament’s office is being brought into disrepute by this unsavoury mess. Carole Dennett has history in this regard, and here it is repeating itself. Falling out with the Conservative-led Council, the local Isle of Wight Association Chairmen and officers, and its local office, whilst dragging Andrew Turner helplessly along in her wake over one issue after another was the… Read more »

Steve Goodman
Reply to  lookout
20, October 2015 12:08 pm

A few points, in response: It’s not just this particular unsavoury mess which influences our judgement of MPs; we note expenses and other scandals, and we note the harm they do when they alone have the power to improve things for the common good. In fairness to Carole Dennett, in my limited experience she has also been helpful to us and to our MP (whose health, as… Read more »

Tobytram
20, October 2015 12:31 pm

In all fairness to Carol Dennett, she is a mere part time employee, not the MP. If as it appears, Mr Turner is not well enought to act as the MP and has to have her and a full time ‘volunteer’ transport advisor making policy decisions together with a few others, often ‘ on the hoof’, then it is more than past the time to go. This… Read more »

Tobytram
20, October 2015 12:33 pm

By the way interesting to know how Miss Dennett’s application to become a Conservative Party member is going ! Mass exodus if she is ‘allowed’ to join

The Sciolist
20, October 2015 12:44 pm

Desperate wishful thinking. Repeated personal attacks, now who do we know who would do that?

Tobytram
20, October 2015 12:48 pm

?? About redactions something Mr Finney himself put out there not only to you but to IWCP and IWR and it has been out there since last night ( must have forgotten to check with HQ! ) It is important that all contributors and constituents know what is the make up of the office staff at Riverside, and in Parliament, just as we are entitled to know… Read more »

davimel
20, October 2015 12:51 pm

As I posted in the last article about this horrendous foul up by ATs’ ‘advisors’, How and WHY are unelected, unpopular and obviously biased members of staff discussing matters of Island wide importance with a Journalist? What answers could these two give with regards to ISLAND matters unless of course THEY are the ones making up the answers and taking advantage of ATs’ obvious health issues. Neither… Read more »

Richard
20, October 2015 1:31 pm

Sciolist

” Repeated personal attacks, now who would do that?”..you have been known to do so.

Why don’t you try and make a comment that will defend this shambles then if you can?

newagetrainspotter
20, October 2015 1:32 pm

Mr Finney’s tirade against freelance journalist Mr Marsh is simply appalling. As I understand it, specific questions were asked of the MP which have been deliberately side-stepped several times. Why wont he answer? If he cant, please say so Mr Turner. A meeting was requested then cancelled at that minute, which is very unprofessional. Now we get the unpleasant character attack from someone who claims to be… Read more »

neilpalmer400
20, October 2015 2:48 pm

To correct a few things mentioned above.

davimel – Christopher Garnett is donating his time, there is no cost.

newagetrainspotter – GNER was (and still is to this day) considered one of the better rail franchises. GNER collapsed because its parent company, Sea Containers, failed. It was nothing to do with Garnett and not a reflection on his capabilities.

Manners maketh man
20, October 2015 2:51 pm

I have just read this email and I am shocked that someone who is representing an elected official, the MP, thinks it is all right to write to anyone like this. It’s just so rude! It shouldn’t matter if he agreed with the person or not, it is no excuse to write in such a horrible way. Where is the common decency? Does Andrew Turner know that… Read more »

Tobytram
20, October 2015 3:00 pm

As stated previously this vituperative attack by persons without any moral terpitude. Welcome to the Kafkaesque regime running the IW MP’s office

Cloak & Dagger
20, October 2015 4:20 pm

The wishful thinking is writ large on here daily for the few still interested. Hate filled individuals and never were political opponents of Andrew Turner, who failed to get him de-selected, failed to beat him in a fair fight general election,live in hope that he just gives-up because they write nasty things about him and his ex partner OTW. Now I ask, why on earth would he… Read more »

Manners maketh man
Reply to  Cloak & Dagger
20, October 2015 5:22 pm

I am most certainly not in any of those categories that you have mentioned.

From the people that I speak to, it is also not just the few that are still interested. They are all concerned with what’s going on with this train line.

Richard
20, October 2015 5:09 pm

Cloak and dagger

So instead of having a go at us all for expressing our opinion on our MP and sidekicks appalling behaviour..why not give a comment to defend them?

Certa Cito
20, October 2015 5:56 pm

Spotted ! Andrew Turner actually doing some work without his strings being pulled by the Brady Bunch…………….. No hang on my mistake!

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