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The 138 responses on parking from the public the council decided weren’t ‘valid objections’

On Friday afternoon last week, OnTheWight published the scale of public objection to the Isle of Wight council’s proposed changes to parking.

The council made a decision to only accept 543 of the responses they received as ‘valid objections’.

Below is the list of the responses that members of the public sent in to the council that officers chose to treat as ‘Comments’ and therefore, to their minds, fell outside the ‘valid objections’ category.

Shanklin Extending charges to 8pm.

Effect on evening trade – restaurants, theatre, tourism

Shanklin United Reform Church – will rip heart out of Shanklin community

Why is Sandown High Street one hour free and Regent Street only 30 minutes? (Regent Cards)
The Heights Extending time to 8pm.

Paying for hour’s parking when attending GP surgery

Carry out Health Impact Assessment

IW Marlins extending time will hit their members

IW Heart Care Club on behalf of their members
Medina Campus Why should staff have to pay to park at place of work

Stress for parents who will have to pay

Affect on after-school clubs and parents evenings

Don’t use this revenue to cover costs of Cowes Enterprise College

Only 61 spaces for staff

Added financial burden on governors

Carry out Health Impact Assessment

To charge people working at a school to park during their working day is unacceptable and will not be accepted by anyone in the education sector

Medina College has had a hard time in recent years and is working to improve. How can you possibly justify these charges while the school is trying to work on these improvements?

Seaclose swimming club member – will cost extra £250 pa if I have to pay to park

IW Marlins extending time will hit their members
Newport Extending charges to 8pm

Two hour limit on Quay Street

Tourist permit very complicated – let hotels have paper permits again

Evening charges will turn Newport into ghost town

Counter-productive to remove free Wednesday afternoon parking

Unreasonable to expect people to pay outside their own homes between 6 and 8pm

Will drive existing business away

Extended time will affect Apollo Theatre
Carisbrooke Why aren’t residents entitled to £50 permit like other areas

Village will die and businesses will close

Car park given free to local community due to lack of parking spaces

No on-road parking for residents and workers

Put meters in Union Street (Ryde)

Make first four hours free and allow those who work in the village to park free

Will lead to unauthorised use of Eight Bells and GP surgery car parks and encourage on-street on Spring Lane and Castle Hill.

Brighstone car park is free – this village is similar so make our car park free

It will affect the church congregation, Brownies, WI

Lack of alternative parking places

Why charge worshippers to park on what was once their church land?

Why should Niton have two free car parks and charge for the only one in Carisbrooke. Will turn Castle Street into rat run with people looking for parking spaces

Detailed concerns from Cllr Hobart

Carisbrooke PCC against charges. Land given for community not envisaged that those wishing to attend events/support local business would have to pay for parking.

Carisbrooke WI

Rev Bagg, Vicar of Carisbrooke. Wedding and funeral services regularly last more than an hour. Number of vehicles regularly outstay limited time or park illegally in disabled bays – send CEOs to ticket more often

Could free period be extended to two hours at least on Sundays when people go to church by car

Sunbeam Pre-School. Difficulties for [low paid] staff. Could the three parking spaces between the back of the hall and the ladies topilets be allocated to the church and church hall when these venues are being used. Allow my staff to purchase residents permits for £150
Ryde Extending charges to 8pm will mean I have to pay when going to ice hockey

Keep parking free from 6pm

Waterside Pool trustee : Bring Ryde North Walk and esplanade into line with other areas – not all year round but March to October only. Charges after 6pm will affect their customers. Above inflation rise encourages people to park in nearby residential streets

Many members of the IW Underwater Hockey club objecting to extending time to 8pm

IW junior ice hockey club. Dispensation for club members during training?
Appley and Puckpool Do not charge all year round.

Keep free parking at existing free car parks

No transport links near (Dell Café)

Puckpool Park given to people of Ryde for recreation and leisure

Will affect volunteers at Ryde Rowing Club. Make two free spaces available for their bar staff – as done for Appley Café. Bring in subsidised permit for RRC members for Appley car park only. (See example for Southampton rowing clubs.)

Drive traffic to out of town shopping centres (Tesco, Gunwharf)

Make first two hours free and retain 8pm extension

Allocate spaces in middle of Appley Lane to Ryde RC

Develop grassed area behind rowing club and pumping station into private car park for RRC

Private land donated to the council and must be kept free for the public in perpetuity

Customers won’t be able to afford to pay to park and also use cafes on seafront

Beach hut owners already pay high fee for their huts

In-depth email from concessionaire of Puckpool Tea Gardens

Bring in permit for specific car parks such as Appley and Puckpool payable in instalments

Puckpool isn’t a town park people can walk to. Will affect social side of meeting regular users and time with grandchildren.
Moa Place Don’t persecute the sick, frail and elderly who aren’t able to walk to the surgery

Will deter tourists from doing their shopping locally

Half hour free used by patients

Why should I pay to see my doctor?

My child swims regularly at WWSC and it’s disgraceful to charge to park on top of costs of driving from Cowes. Plus several other parents on same lines

Freshwater PC: Difficult to accept increased charges will generate predicted income. Removal of free half hour will have detrimental affect on local business and people using Brookside health centre. Lower part of car park given to local authority for the benefit of inhabitants of Freshwater. Proposed charges too high.
Blackgang Chine Put a sign at ferry terminals – Tourist (sic) go home

Why pay for a car park which has no services, surface markings or lighting

Just been awarded the concession to operate mobile food outlet there

Already costs a large amount to bring your car here as a holidaymaker, I object to paying for parking as well

Inappropriate for this tourist area and viewpoint car park

When this was considered for sale to Vectis Ventures it was stipulated this car park must remain free

Chale PC. IWC property disposal sub committed 10.12.13, included a copndtiion that the car park must remain free and question how the importance of this condition can be overturned in five months
Seaview Wight Locations and other Seaview businesses – Charges will hasten demise of Seaview as a commercial centre

Nettlestone and Seaview PC. Two hours (with ticket) for both Pier Road and Puckpool. Parish council would also like to see arrangements at Duver Road car park brought into line with the arrangements for the other two car parks within the parish
Totland Totland PC: PC asks for Broadway to remain free car park to aid local businesses. Change to no overnight parking. Would like details of justification for this and forecast of income
Wootton New medical centre being built next to community centre – 3,000+ patients all of whom will have to pay as first hour free won’t be sufficient

Brannons tea rooms. Impact on vulnerable elderly people. Many tourist use car park – advised to do so by Wightlink when waiting for ferry!

Wootton Bridge PC. Lead to more parking in local streets (Mary Rose). Also hardship for people going to new GP surgery who may spend more than an hour there. Also may not get their Px from the local pharmacy in future.
Cowes Cowes Business Association plus petition

Several members of Trinity Theatre and Cowes AODS objecting to extension of charges on the Parade

Extension will also affect RNLI crew ability to attend training or respond to callouts

Cowes TC against extending hours and removal of free afternoon
Sandown Town council object to 8pm extension of charges

Sandown Forum – don’t extend charges to 8pm and don’t revoke free afternoon parking
Ventnor Town council object to 8pm extension of charges

Removal of free afternoon parking will have adverse affect on trade
General Remove free parking for blue badge holders

Complete survey of all parking so charges applied consistently

In towns, on- and off-street have free 30 minutes

Leisure areas, such as seafronts, parks, council attractions, etc say £1 for first two hours, £2 all day

Charges applicable 10am to 6pm.

Changes fundamentally flawed with dubious legality

Don’t extend charges to 8pm (majority mention this)

Scrap them all at weekends

Health visitors and district nurses should be able to buy £50 permit for when making Dvs

Don’t revoke four hour short stay to be replaced with three hours only

On-street parking should be included in residents permit plus six hours is too short for this all-island permit

Charging at Appley and Puckpool is way of taxing family leisure time

Visitors will be driven away to out of town shopping areas

Don’t remove two hours free from leisure centres

Don’t make motorcycles pay at Blackgang viewpoint

Quay Arts Centre – objecting to charges extended to 8pm

High parking charges = less money to spend in local businesses

Are you completely mad? Another rip-off

Deterrent to tourism

Why is Ventnor Industrial Estate car park for permit holders only?

Bring in 20/30 minutes free on-street parking. Allow unexpired period on a ticket to be used in other parking zone with equal or lower charge

Install ticket machines which issue tickets with a time to the value of the coins deposited

Work with new tourism organisation not against it

Work in the evenings and low paid couldn’t afford to park so would have to give up work and claim benefit

Introduce meters at all supermarket/out of town shopping areas

Get rid of the parking department completely

Allow free parking for two hours in all council car parks with time clock (advertising on reverse)

Long-stay permit should be ten hours maximum

Charge blue badge holders to park

Don’t remove half-day free parking in Cowes, Sandown, Shanklin and Ventnor

Season permits too restrictive

Ryde Business Association – referred to Barnet

Pay and display parking is a great nuisance. Would rather see small rise in council tax and bring back reasonably price residents parking permit

Allow free parking in council car parks for up to two hours controlled by disk clock and only pay after two hours

Need islandwide review of parking. (FSB)

Newport seen as ‘cash cow’ for parking revenue

It would be better to put up council tax than upset motorists

The order is to do with spoiling the lives of residents, destroying local tradesmen’s livelihoods and raising money for a corporation

Look at example of Chichester

Free Saturday parking between October and April

Withdraw all intentions to charge in car parkling places which are currently free and withdraw introduction of charges until 8pm. Request this parking order goes to full council so every elected member may have opportunity to vote and named vote can be published (Cllr Matthew Price)

IW Sports and Recreation Council on behalf of 75+ member clubs

Northwood PC. When the report came before members itincludes financial consequences of the proposals together with econolmic assessment on town centre businesses

Introduce one hour free for all high streets
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Anon
18, October 2012 4:02 pm

I’m far from this guy’s biggest fan, but you’ve got to admit he’s got a point here. You need to look at the bigger picture and see that the current upheaval in the school structure on the Island is a long term investment which will only be realised over the next 5-10 years as the new schools are allowed to find their feet and develop.

Nancy Black
Reply to  Anon
18, October 2012 4:13 pm

Let’s face it, the council screwed up the reorganisation, they demotivated and demoralised the teachers at all levels leading to the really good inspirational ones leaving the Island to work across the water (see GCSE results for proof of this).

Anon
Reply to  Nancy Black
18, October 2012 5:08 pm

I’m sure there are cases of that happening. However, anything that upsets the status quo is always going to have a negative impact on some individuals. However, looking at the bigger picture it is because of the 3 tier system that the Island has been starved of teaching talent over the preceding decades.

Island Monkey
Reply to  Anon
18, October 2012 10:11 pm

Rubbish! In other words, long after he’s ‘retired’ and (probably) moved on to another job as Steve Beynon Ltd?

What about NOW? Children have already been failed, are still being failed.

Education on this Island IS THE WORST IN THE COUNTRY. FACT. This man should resign.

random bloke
Reply to  Island Monkey
18, October 2012 10:33 pm

what about now? what can be done to fix it right now? nothing at all. solutions take time. and given the level of improvement that has been shown this year, its likely that next year will show an improvement, bringing us up the league tables. Or, we could all rant on here about how reasonable points of view are rubbish, how something should be done NOW, and… Read more »

Anon
Reply to  Island Monkey
18, October 2012 11:15 pm

NOW is the whole of the 2000’s when nothing was done to raise standards. The Island has been failing in terms of education for years. This change is what the powers that be have decided is required to fix the problem and raise standards. You can’t fix a county wide education problem overnight, you need a strategy and a plan. The 2 tier system is this. Judge… Read more »

wightywight
Reply to  Anon
18, October 2012 11:36 pm

@Anon:

Tell you what….let’s not wait that long.

WW

Cynic
18, October 2012 4:05 pm

Usual Council waffle! “Of course we are not complacent”.”We will look”, “more realistic approach” “not as a relative judgement at but as a baseline”, ” tremendous achievement during a period of transition is remarkable”, “operated in a joined up manner”, “fully joined up learning environment “, “in three years’ time”, “it is the challenge and support through our School Improvement Partners which is being put in place”,… Read more »

retiredhack
18, October 2012 4:44 pm

The guy could give the Serbian FA a run for their money in terms of the flat denial of the incontrtoverible. Or there was Comical Ali, remember him, Saddam’s Information Minister, last seen scuttling around Baghdad against a backdrop of patrolling American tanks, while at the same time coming out with such gems as: “They’re not even within 100 miles of Baghdad. They are not in any… Read more »

Anon
Reply to  retiredhack
18, October 2012 5:20 pm

I think people are missing the point here. The key stats are that KS2 performance, in terms of absolute results are UP MASSIVELY year on year. i.e 2012: First KS2 results from enlarged primary’s = Very Good 2011: Last KS2 results from old middles = Not Very Good Now, Overall progress between KS1 and KS2 is bad, but KS2 results Very Good. Go figure? Its the old… Read more »

RS
Reply to  Anon
18, October 2012 6:11 pm

Well said! It was always astounding that island primaries were in the top ten percent of the country at ks1 but then fell dramatically in ks2 tables! Glad to see that a more realistic and honest view of how things are going is now evident. Will be interesting to see how the yr6/ks2 children who did so well last year, achieve at high schools now, as the… Read more »

random bloke
18, October 2012 5:22 pm

Again, where are the last 5 or 10 years results for comparison? Several media outlets seem to be good at pointing out “shocking” results, but clearly the results have improved this year compared to last year. Ok, we’re bottom and theres a hell of a long way to go, but things are getting better. The question should be when did they get worse? was there a major… Read more »

Cynic
Reply to  random bloke
18, October 2012 5:38 pm

Google http://media.education.gov.uk/assets/files/xls/l/sfr19-2012la.xls for the actual tables in Excel format so you can play with them.

random bloke
Reply to  Cynic
18, October 2012 7:41 pm

how does that help? its this years results only. my point is the media should not be talking about shocking results without actually proving that they are shocking by comparing them to previous years

wightywight
Reply to  random bloke
18, October 2012 8:15 pm

They’re shocking compared to other schools… They might be more, or less, shocking relative to themselves… who cares. Last place is last place in *league* tables. Compared to other mainland schools teaching the same material to a roughly approx. same group of children. Last! Let it sink in a bit. Instead of working out if it’s marginally better – or worse – than it once was…celebrate the… Read more »

Cynic
Reply to  random bloke
18, October 2012 8:27 pm

See Table 18 that gives results 2007-2012

sfr19-2012la-5.xls

random bloke
Reply to  random bloke
18, October 2012 8:57 pm

so it does… this is the first year in the last 5 years that the results have climbed above 70%, which suggests that this has less to do with the school reorganization and more to do with the fact that middle schools are now gone and primaries are now able to complete KS2 rather than handing it over to middle schools half way through. Wightywight… how short… Read more »

wightywight
Reply to  random bloke
18, October 2012 11:33 pm

@Jon: That’s right Jon. Fantastic achievements…60% gains, year on year improvements…….and we’re still last!! Fudge all you want…. Last is Last… by the best comparison of all. That of comparing like with like, with other schools and their achievements teaching the same children the same lessons…. See, when you’re at the bottom…the only way is up! Of course everything will look like an improvement. You can’t get… Read more »

Anon
Reply to  random bloke
18, October 2012 11:54 pm

@WW Just to clarify, I believe Jon (feel free to correct me) is talking about the KS2 results which are the first results from the first co-hort to go through the new system, the IOW is NOT last in terms of KS2 results. THESE ARE THE BEST OVERALL KS2 RESULTS ON THE IOW FOR OVER 5 YEARS. The Island IS last in KS1 to KS2 improvement, but… Read more »

random bloke
Reply to  random bloke
19, October 2012 7:05 am

WW… have you looked at the data? have you even bothered to read my comment? the improvement is 13%, not 60%. You also seem to be misinformed. This is comparison against other schools, but those schools are not teaching the same children the same lessons. At most they are teaching similar content, but every school, indeed every classroom and every teacher will teach the content differently in… Read more »

steve s
18, October 2012 5:33 pm

Lies, damn lies and statistics!
Wait until they release the league tables for performance at GCSE…

Oops!

Cynic
Reply to  steve s
18, October 2012 5:44 pm

I like Andrew Lang’s quote ” He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lampposts – for support rather than for illumination. :-))

lincoln
18, October 2012 10:06 pm

I’ve an idea how to improve literacy – close the libraries!

No.5
Reply to  lincoln
19, October 2012 1:57 am

How very sad that fools try to justify this calamity by justifying overall climb in figures over 5 years and other such statistical bullsh=t and forget completely that real children have been totally failed by a council unable to organise a p~ss up in a brewrey…if they were not prepared for such tragic results then they should never had gotten on this path. I’m in favour of… Read more »

random bloke
Reply to  No.5
19, October 2012 7:13 am

No-one is trying to justify anything. Everyone recognizes that more improvement must be made. However, had we stayed with a 3 tier system, it seems likely that this years results would be even worse than they are. Whats that you say? we’re last and things cant get worse? Of course they can. The percentage passrate has risen locally, even if it is not yet close to the… Read more »

DP
Reply to  random bloke
19, October 2012 7:40 am

if I employed a builder who c…. up like Pugh, Benynon and cohorts, I would not pay them but would probably get another builder who,se up to the job. leaving idiots in charge is not going to help our children either. So yes, the best thing we could all do for our children is sack Benyon, vote out Pugh – if I failed in my job I… Read more »

wightywight
Reply to  random bloke
19, October 2012 12:48 pm

… or laud the current system and results as acceptable, good and worthwhile…? Step outside of this measuring the Island against itself….. Look at the Island as a comparison (in education) to elsewhere on the mainland. It’s poor. Sh*t poor. We all know it, we knew it from a long time ago and the cost cutting this administration has embarked upon as a ‘streamlining’ and/or ‘rationalisation’ is… Read more »

random bloke
Reply to  wightywight
19, October 2012 4:48 pm

The shafts of light show you the way out – but it will still take time to walk to the end of the tunnel. Improving the education system on the island cannot happen overnight, but the process has begun, and results are now higher than the 3 tier system at KS2. Blame whoever you like. I would rather look at the positives and how they can be… Read more »

Cynic
Reply to  wightywight
19, October 2012 4:56 pm

@jon “The shafts of light show you the way out – but it will still take time to walk to the end of the tunnel.”

…. or run frantically if the light is on a train coming towards you! So… IoW Council- oncoming train wreck or way out of the gloom? -))

random bloke
Reply to  wightywight
19, October 2012 5:58 pm

thats my point… the train is not speeding towards anyone. We cannot get rid of Pugh until next year, and its unlikely to happen then. Benyon will not resign, and will not be sacked unless Pugh loses, and maybe not even then. The focus needs to be on sorting things out and maintaining and improving the progress made this year on the island. That is the only… Read more »

HTH
18, October 2012 11:57 pm

For those wanting past education statistics in a readable format this may help: http://www.iwight.com/council/facts_and_figures/images/3Education00-resultsupdate04LS.pdf It does not however give rankings, and unfortunately KS2 results do not include the usual Level 4+ E&M (an average point score is used). I believe much of the well founded criticism of the council is due to setting an expectation that was probably unachievable. Adamantly claiming that our primary schools were genuinely… Read more »

playingthenumbers
19, October 2012 11:54 am

Will somebody point out to the education tzar that it was standards, not systems that failed & are worsening. Hiding behind selective & pedantic language doesn’t disguise the fact that the millions poured into the reorganisation has resulted in worsening performance, and if other stories are to be believed, worsening morale amongst the schools. There is a singular lack of acknowledgement amongst this response, or rather dissemble,… Read more »

steve s
Reply to  playingthenumbers
19, October 2012 12:58 pm

As usual, Numbers, you are right on the money!

Cynic
Reply to  steve s
19, October 2012 1:07 pm

Since Thatcher’s time, the long-term strategy of Conservative and New Labour (aka Tory-Lite) governments appears to have been directed at ensuring the UK population is less-educated in the future as it will be easier to control. The tools used were/are devaluing secondary level exam results by making them relatively easier, reducing educational budgets, constant change of national curricula to disrupt teaching programmes, increasing university fees to put… Read more »

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