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Colin
20, November 2020 11:23 am

Unfortunately many MPs hadn’t got a clue what they were talking about (surely not!) in some of the debates and the time saving aspect on journeys was of course a load of old tosh. The important bit was the capacity of the existing lines which is the main hold up. However with HS2 new lines then there would be more capacity for more trains which is the… Read more »

Tamara
Reply to  Colin
20, November 2020 3:37 pm

Colin, how can you dismiss the HS2 project’s huge-scale destruction of wildlife habitats that David Moorse lists in his letter as being ‘disturbed’? The impact is not temporary, but permanent. Habitats are being DESTROYED by this project. Ancient woodlands cannot be replaced by planting some more trees, England already has far less native woodland than any other European country, and much of our ancient woodland was destroyed… Read more »

Colin
Reply to  Tamara
20, November 2020 4:17 pm

Hi Tamara. Habitats have been disturbed/destroyed since year dot. Otherwise we wouldn’t have civilizations, towns and cities. My point was that nature and wildlife adapt and also fill in the spaces created after changes to the land. As iowchris points out in a later post, Kent wasn’t destroyed by HS1. Motorways which tore up the countryside when first built now provide verges and larger areas where flora… Read more »

Tamara
Reply to  Colin
20, November 2020 7:44 pm

I am not advocating preserving “anything and everything”, Colin. Is this how you view ancient woodland and sites of international importance for wildlife? And motorway verges do not replace ancient woodland or scarce wetland habitat.

kennydoit
20, November 2020 12:51 pm

The total reason behind HS2 is to increase capacity. The maximum capacity of a rail route is governed by the slowest trains using the line which, in the case of the West Coast Mainline (WCML) are freight and slow, stopping passenger trains. In order to increase the number of trains on the WCML there are three choices; reduce freight and slow, stopping passenger trains; increase the capacity… Read more »

steephilljack
20, November 2020 1:32 pm

This should not happen ! We used to live in Herts and this will devastate local wildlife !

Steve Goodman
Reply to  steephilljack
26, January 2021 12:27 pm

A lot of harm has already been done, and much more is intended. Links to follow for the Wildlife Trusts ‘What’s the Damage’ report, and the Parliamentary petition to pause for a vote. The costs to taxpayers, potential passengers, and our environment are far too high, and the claimed benefit is highly questionable. As Private Eye and others were pointing out for years, this is the wrong… Read more »

iowchris
20, November 2020 2:21 pm

We heard the same emotive and exaggerated language about HS1, how many people have gone and seen how it turned out? Guess what, it didn’t destroy Kent! It didn’t steamroll through the Garden of England! Wildlife sites weren’t destroyed forever. Any infrastructure project will have a short term impact, but nature quickly recovers and the environmental mitigation works have delivered a net improvement. HS2 will be no… Read more »

neilpalmer400
20, November 2020 11:24 pm

The implication given by the author that these hundreds of wildlife sites, woodlands, SSSIs, etc. will be destroyed in their entirety is simply nonsense, as is the implication this is all so “a few people will take 20 mins less to get from London to somewhere on the outskirts of Birmingham”. When you start out like that the rest of your argument loses any possible credibility. As… Read more »

melting
21, November 2020 3:54 pm

I am with David Moorse.People are saying HS1 did not destroy Kent-O.K.-but how many counties will HS2 affect. It really is TOO much. Never mind China-would you like to live there?

YJC
22, November 2020 1:01 pm

Something similar: DESPITE the Planning Inspectorate in their 560 page long report, objecting strongly the Government has recently sanctioned a £2 billion plus road development scheme around Stonehenge. The PI report states: “introduce a greater physical change to the Stonehenge landscape than has occurred in its 6,000 years” and continues to say “to ignore this warning is to threaten the gravest act of desecration knowingly perpetrated by… Read more »

Steve Goodman
3, February 2021 11:47 pm

One of the first page features in he latest Private Eye (1540) reports again on the enormously costly serious stupidity of the government’s position on HS2, and the regular Signal Failures rail section (p.17) reports more of the usual examples of the same sort of poor choices and wasted opportunities.

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