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Andrew Turner: Did he or didn’t he cancel #Twestiontime?

Earlier today the organisers of @TwestionTime announced that Andrew Turner was pulling out of today’s online hustings.

Turner claims he didn’t agree to attend
In advance of publishing, we had contacted his office for a response, a mere four+ hours later they sent us the following, denying that Andrew had ever agreed to take part in the event:-

Just to be clear, Andrew did not drop out of Twestion time, he never accepted the invitation to the event in the first place.

As he is still the Member of Parliament for the Isle of Wight he has Parliamentary business for a further week, which involves being in Westminster this afternoon and for the rest of the week.

He did, in fact, draft an email to the college to explain why he would not be able to attend but unfortunately that email wasn’t sent until this morning when I realised.

College claims he agreed
This is in stark contrast to the press release put out for Isle of Wight College by The Agency on 12th March, which said (Our emphasis):-

Twestion Time will take place at Isle of Wight College on 23rd May between 5pm-6pm.

Invitations have been dispatched to all this year’s candidates; the college has already received responses from Andrew Turner, Vix Lowthion and Iain McKie, and are hopeful that all candidates will choose to be represented.

Although the event will physically take place at the College, as a public forum the Island’s voters will all have the opportunity to get involved. Questions can be sent in advance to @twestiontime using the hashtag #twestiontime.

We checked with The Agency today and they told OnTheWight they understood that Andrew Turner had given the college a verbal acceptance, although they weren’t present at the time.

They also confirmed the College had signed off the wording of the press release before it was released.

Awaiting Chris Harpum
OnTheWight put a call into Head of Sixth Form and Politics Lecturer, Chris Harpum, who is organising the event, to get his understanding of what was/wasn’t agreed. At time of publishing, we haven’t heard back from him – perhaps understandable as the event starts at 5pm today.

We’ve also contacted Andrew Turner’s office asking him if the College’s press release was wrong, where it was said AT was attending.

Watch #Twestiontime from 5pm
Don’t miss out – even if Andrew Turner isn’t there, the event is still going ahead. If you’re not a twitter person, no matter, you can still watch it developing on the dedicated page the College has setup for it.

Image: teamcu29 under CC BY 2.0

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calderjon
23, March 2015 6:02 pm

The plot thickens, sounds about right that somebody somewhere has taken liberties / made a mistake / been economical with the truth and then somebody else gets the blame, in this case Andrew Turner.

People never cease to amaze.

suzannelucas
Reply to  calderjon
24, March 2015 8:52 am

yes, the plot definitely thickens as On The Wight removes the posts that want to know why they are supporting a [part of comment removed by moderator] (Turner) who didn’t even care about the island enough to turn up for a debate, and just uses the place as a piggy bank to empty when he’s run out of money to fund his high life elsewhere. On The… Read more »

Sally Perry
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Reply to  suzannelucas
24, March 2015 9:06 am

Your many comments posted (under the names Suzanne/Johno/Harriet/Ainsley) were removed from this site because they were full of name-calling and vicious bile – those types of comments aren’t welcome here.

calderjon
Reply to  suzannelucas
24, March 2015 9:07 am

Do you have an issue with comprehension?

Quite the opposite appears to be true to me, OTW are certainly not pro AT.

Simon Wolfe
23, March 2015 6:21 pm

Brilliant! They never proposistioned him about it properly. Looks like someone just slipped it in while he was there at an appointment for something else. Now Andrew Turner gets to shoulder the blame. Not that I’m pro conservative, because I’m not. An utter shambles by The Agency and College…. Just admit that you didn’t organise it properly and move on. BBC Question Time needn’t fear….

Johno
Reply to  Simon Wolfe
23, March 2015 9:18 pm

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suzannelucas
Reply to  Simon Wolfe
23, March 2015 10:48 pm

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tiki
23, March 2015 6:31 pm

Don’t we have any other news?

Manc
Reply to  tiki
23, March 2015 7:26 pm

I count 13 other items published today, so they weren’t short of news.

Oldie
23, March 2015 6:32 pm

Who is the careless person who wrote Twestion Time will take place ……. On 23rd May …….. ! Seems to me as an unbiased observer that someone in the College is to blame for the confusion not our Member of Parliament.

suzannelucas
Reply to  Oldie
23, March 2015 10:12 pm

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Sally Perry
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Reply to  Oldie
24, March 2015 8:21 am

The date error was only in one part of the press release, the correct date was made very clear in other parts of the release.

Robert Jones
23, March 2015 6:51 pm

Well … Oldie asks what I would have asked. If they can’t even get the month right, the chances of their having issued the invitations and gathered in the replies competently are looking a bit thin. I hope this is a muck-up rather than a dirty trick, but then there have been so many of those just lately that suspicion is justified. At the very least, people… Read more »

Johno
23, March 2015 7:57 pm

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Stewart Blackmore
23, March 2015 8:28 pm

I was at the event and I have to say that the organization was excellent. It was well run and well moderated by the 6th Form Head and staff. Ian Stephens cancelled at very short notice although he did tweet during the session. If Messrs Stephens & Turner think that they can get through this campaign by not facing the public (not to mention the other candidates)… Read more »

Harry Taylor
Reply to  Stewart Blackmore
23, March 2015 8:51 pm

Maybe it’s that they went ahead with saying that he’d be attending the event, without actually having anything more solid than a passing yes on a visit which was probably do to something else in place. It is just a thought though. Also, not that I’m a big fan. But calling him a [part of commenter removed by moderator] says more about you than it does him.

Johno
Reply to  Harry Taylor
23, March 2015 8:58 pm

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Anon Again
Reply to  Stewart Blackmore
23, March 2015 11:20 pm

Glad you had the time to go the event and contribute Stewart – along with the other candidates hoping we will choose you on May 7th. It’s the least we can ask I know (that a candidate turns up for a public event they have agreed to do) but it seems that it a bit too much for other candidates! What on earth was Ian Stephens excuse?… Read more »

Robert Jones
Reply to  Stewart Blackmore
24, March 2015 7:42 am

You have a suspicious mind, Stewart….. I confess that my first reaction to anything involving Twitter is to avoid it; I do have a Twitter account, but have never yet been able to say anything in so few characters; or at least, nothing that should see the light of day. I doubt that your suspicions are entirely well-founded, although the alternative is no more flattering to the… Read more »

Stewart Blackmore
Reply to  Robert Jones
24, March 2015 8:28 am

When it comes to having a suspicious mind Robert, I bow very low to you! Let’s not forget that this was a 6th form event and was well attended by those students who will, hopefully, be voting for the first time – and that is surely the point here. We MUST get young people involved and this was a sure way of doing that. In a close… Read more »

Billy Builder
Reply to  Stewart Blackmore
24, March 2015 8:40 am

Stewart: what planet do you live on? With the Tories on the island almost guaranteed to get 40% of the vote, and the centre/centre left vote being split between LibDem, Independent, Green and Labour, there is no chance of anything other than a Tory victory. If really want a left of centre government after May 5th you need to maximise the chance of a non-Tory IOW win.… Read more »

Vix Lowthion
Reply to  Billy Builder
24, March 2015 9:01 am

Billy. I’m being polite here – but you really are misinformed. Politics has moved on. No one votes Lib Dem anymore!

Billy Builder
Reply to  Billy Builder
24, March 2015 9:13 am

The pollster are predicting the LibDem’s with 26 seats after May 7th and the Green’s with 1. So who is really misinformed whom

Vix Lowthion
Reply to  Billy Builder
24, March 2015 9:15 am

And the IW is one of the Lib Dem’s 26 seats?

If Lib Dems get 26 seats they’ll have lost 60% of them in 5 years.

That is not a party on the Up. That is a party heading to complete disaster.

calderjon
Reply to  Billy Builder
24, March 2015 9:18 am

What percentage of the vote did the Greens get in the last election Vix and what percentage are you predicting for this year?

On The Island that is?

Vix Lowthion
Reply to  Billy Builder
24, March 2015 9:32 am

In 2010 the vote was small – but we didn’t run a full and proper campaign or have any sort of budget. In 2014 the Green Party got almost 4000 votes on the island in the euro elections and came third – ahead of Labour and the Lib Dems. Again with a small group of activists (around a dozen) and no local candidate. In 2015 we have… Read more »

Billy Builder
Reply to  Billy Builder
24, March 2015 9:33 am

I would put money on the LibDem’s getting substantially more votes IOW than the Green’s. If all centre/centre left candidates other than the green’s withdrew, then the green’s might get say 10% of the IOW vote, whereas is all but the LibDem’s withdrew then there would be a real chance of a centre/centre left win. If we had a properly democratic voting system where seats were allocated… Read more »

Vix Lowthion
Reply to  Billy Builder
24, March 2015 9:35 am

You do realise that many many people would choose not to vote rather than be forced to vote Lib Dem?

Voting ‘tactically’ has failed and failed and failed.

Candidates withdrawing would merely disenfranchise whole sections of the electorate.

Billy builder
Reply to  Billy Builder
24, March 2015 9:45 am

With the current voting system splitting the centre/centre left vote guarantees AT victory. So on may 8th we’ll be able to thank Vix for 5 years of unfettered Tory rule.

calderjon
Reply to  Billy Builder
24, March 2015 11:02 am

Vix this really isn’t a loaded question and I suspect you feel you’ve answered it but specifically, what are the percentages?

Vix Lowthion
Reply to  Billy Builder
24, March 2015 12:04 pm

We got Tory rule by voting Lib Dem in 2010. Voting Lib Dem won’t guarantee no Tory rule at all.

CJ – Not sure off top of head, but both Green and UKIP were way down in 2010. And yet UKIP are all championed as contenders and Greens are underestimated. Both parties lost deposits in 2010.

Billy builder
Reply to  Billy Builder
24, March 2015 12:23 pm

Vix: no, you got Tory rule tempered (slightly) by libdem’. This time you risk full on Tory rule. The only party standing any chance on the island other than the Tories are the libdem’s By splitting the centre/centre left vote on the island you are guaranteeing AT’s return. I would suggest that if the Tories are the largest party then you want the biggest possible libdem vote… Read more »

Albert Street
Reply to  Stewart Blackmore
24, March 2015 9:19 am

So Mr Stephens was a no show. Was he on thd Island or away doing the LGA job?

Arrogant, Foolish or just not capable of keeping appointments? The voters will decide in May if he can be trusted with the responsibility of representing the Island

Stewart Blackmore
Reply to  Albert Street
25, March 2015 12:43 am

Ian Stephens was in London at a meeting which was organized a long time ago; he knew that he would not be on the Island

Ariadne
23, March 2015 8:53 pm

If Turner had “drafted” the e-mail why did he not just send it? Or has he not worked out how to do e-mail?

Oldie
23, March 2015 9:04 pm

So not only did the College put 23rd May as the date, they can’t take it when I pointed it out. How childish! How many of them are old enough to vote out of interest.?

Vix Lowthion
Reply to  Oldie
23, March 2015 9:06 pm

Most the students I saw who attended evening were 18 yrs old. Staff also attended.

It was a really good event. Time passed very quickly. Well done to all the organisers.

suzannelucas
Reply to  Vix Lowthion
23, March 2015 10:20 pm

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Anon Again
Reply to  suzannelucas
23, March 2015 11:44 pm

And Ian Stephens? Who somehow found he had another engagement but could tweet from his front room/other crucially important event. Are we in a situation where Ian’s ego is SO huge that if Turner doesn’t turn up neither does he? Like when they send the deputies in for PMQs if the PM isn’t available. Except not same as Ian Stephens isn’t anything other than a local Councillor… Read more »

Johno
Reply to  Oldie
23, March 2015 9:10 pm

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harry Taylor
Reply to  Johno
23, March 2015 9:14 pm

All of the other candidates, except for Ian Stephens.

Johno
Reply to  harry Taylor
23, March 2015 9:19 pm

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Harriet
Reply to  Oldie
23, March 2015 10:03 pm

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ainsley
Reply to  Oldie
23, March 2015 10:09 pm

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suzannelucas
Reply to  Oldie
23, March 2015 10:25 pm

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Mason Watch
23, March 2015 9:53 pm

He may be many things but Andrew Turner is not a [part of comment removed by moderator] and if that’s the level of your contribution to a political debate then it speaks volumes about you. This is just a personal attack and with the backstabbing ex Tories of recent months should be regarded as suspect to say the least. Come on moderators…..you should be setting a level… Read more »

Johno
Reply to  Mason Watch
23, March 2015 10:00 pm

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Sally Perry
Admin
Reply to  Mason Watch
24, March 2015 8:18 am

Mason Watch, we don’t read all the comments and rely on our very active commenting community to alert us to name calling or potentially libellous comments. If you spot something that falls into those categories, please use the ‘Offensive comment’ facility to bring it our attention and we will deal with it. As those who have been with us for the nearly 10 years of running know,… Read more »

Peter Gladdis
23, March 2015 10:08 pm

If you dislike him so very much and hate having him as your MP, you could move. I mean the majority of voters around you did vote for and elect him, three times and the betting mans chances are, they will again and he’ll remain the MP for another five years. so why stay in an area where 1/3 of the Island’s population voted to put him… Read more »

Johno
Reply to  Peter Gladdis
23, March 2015 10:10 pm

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calderjon
Reply to  Johno
23, March 2015 10:14 pm

Yes that’s it Johno! Quite right, Peter should shut his mouth while you voice your opinion…..after all that’s how democracy works – not.

LOL

You couldn’t make it up…..

Johno
Reply to  calderjon
23, March 2015 10:27 pm

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Calder
Reply to  Johno
24, March 2015 12:44 am

Johno you seriously need to get a grip – and a clue. I am on nobody’s payroll – quite where you conjured that idea up from is beyond me! It’s morons like you who have sucked the life out of all that was great in this country. You must either be on something that’s messing with your head or just plain thick. You’ve not only imagined something… Read more »

suzannelucas
Reply to  Calder
24, March 2015 8:27 am

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Calder
Reply to  Johno
24, March 2015 12:45 am

iPhone typos there sorry – should have been “you’ve then gone on to abuse somebody on the back of your fantasies”

suzannelucas
Reply to  calderjon
23, March 2015 10:30 pm

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Anon Again
Reply to  suzannelucas
23, March 2015 11:31 pm

@suzannelucas – your comments are a bit strange anyway but Andrew Turner is 62 ish? “Old” is hardly an insult to throw at anyone if you are over 21 (debatable even then). Silly fool I’d accept – [part of comment removed]? Just rude and undermines your points. I’d much rather have my 80 year old mother in law in charge of the country than most other people!

Robert Jones
Reply to  suzannelucas
24, March 2015 7:54 am

If you’re looking for a libel writ, I should carry on saying things like that. If you’re anxious to drag this campaign down to the level of personal abuse, you might also want to go on in this vein. Of course it’s just possible you don’t want either of those things, in which case I should try not to be so bl**dy rude – it rebounds on… Read more »

suzannelucas
Reply to  suzannelucas
24, March 2015 8:03 am

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suzannelucas
Reply to  Peter Gladdis
23, March 2015 10:16 pm

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suzannelucas
Reply to  Peter Gladdis
23, March 2015 10:57 pm

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Don Smith
Reply to  Peter Gladdis
24, March 2015 12:34 am

Peter Gladdis’s,

You are right, but please remember, I would estimate that Mr Turner’s majority is propped up by at least ten thousand OAP. Myself not included.

suzannelucas
Reply to  Peter Gladdis
24, March 2015 8:13 am

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Peter Gladdis
23, March 2015 10:22 pm

Not at all. But if you dislike someone as passionately as Johno obviously does, calling them names, questioning their ability to do a job, querying their motives and generally descending into behaviour I’d hope for better from my kids. Especially when the majority of the voters obviously think he has done and continues to do a reasonable or good job, why put yourself through the upset of… Read more »

Oldie
23, March 2015 10:30 pm

So are you the one who wrote 23rd May Johno? You don’t seem to know the difference between attending an event in person and sending a tweet. You also have a limited knowledge of adjectives so I suspect you don’t use the library very often. As well as being inarticulate you seem to be full of aggression towards those older than yourself and those in authority. I… Read more »

suzannelucas
Reply to  Oldie
23, March 2015 10:35 pm

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Robert Jones
Reply to  suzannelucas
24, March 2015 8:06 am

Turner was not absent because he got the date wrong, or because anyone else got the date wrong. That wasn’t what was said all that way up above before this discussion got hi-jacked by a few people who have trouble controlling their tempers. You’re having a fight with someone on entirely the wrong ground. The criticism of Andrew Turner has nothing to do with this non-issue –… Read more »

suzannelucas
Reply to  Robert Jones
24, March 2015 8:16 am

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Retired Hack
Reply to  Robert Jones
24, March 2015 11:00 am

His agent is one David Walter, late of this parish. He’s the failed Shalfleet parish councillor from Wellow, not to be confused with David Walters, a former mayor of Cowes and also a Tory.

Johno
Reply to  Oldie
23, March 2015 10:48 pm

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Robert Jones
Reply to  Johno
24, March 2015 8:08 am

He might think that because you’re rude and offensive. And you’re at it again – “the mindset of a sociopath”? Get over yourself!

Oldie
23, March 2015 11:09 pm

Two candidates don’t turn up for a debate. Their agents wait for the day itself before informing the organiser. One clumsy College person writes a date wrongly. No one seems to have been allocated the job of proof reader. The situation is aired online for we followers of Onthewight. Instead of getting annoyed about it Johno and Suzanne, how about you getting together maybe with one or… Read more »

Johno
Reply to  Oldie
23, March 2015 11:21 pm

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suzannelucas
Reply to  Oldie
23, March 2015 11:27 pm

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Cynic
Reply to  suzannelucas
24, March 2015 7:59 am

AT’s libel lawyers are probably rubbing their hands with glee at the above comments and planning their future vacations. :-))

Sally Perry
Admin
Reply to  Oldie
24, March 2015 8:25 am

All comments by Johno, Suzanne, Harriet and Ainsley have been removed from this site.

As our regular commenters know, OnTheWight does not tolerate the type of nasty name-calling, potentially libellous commenting ‘they’ undertook last night.

commonsense
23, March 2015 11:38 pm

So Mr Turner says that he could not attend whereas Stewart Blackmore says “I know that Mr Turner was never going to be there as he had invited a group of Island Tories, led by Ian Ward, to the Commons today”. So was he on Parliamentary business or was he having a gay old time with the boys in London (at our expense!). Mr Turner says he… Read more »

Cynic
Reply to  commonsense
24, March 2015 9:31 am

Hansard reports that AT voted with the government in the debate of Budget Resolutions and Economic Situation at 21:59,22:15 and 22;29. The debate started at 17:14 and ended about 22:30.

Oldie
Reply to  Cynic
24, March 2015 1:51 pm

What would we do without our very own Island sleuth, Cicero!

Cynic
Reply to  Oldie
24, March 2015 2:07 pm

Continue to believe in myths and rumours, Oldie? :-))

Don Smith
24, March 2015 1:27 am

Conducting Hustings by email, Facebook or Twitter make it so easy for the candidate, (Whilst siting in his/her home) to get another more knowledgeable person to send the candidates replies for him. One candidate I know would love this, not computer literate.

‘Let’s have it all Face to Face’.

Vix Lowthion
Reply to  Don Smith
24, March 2015 6:06 am

We weren’t at home. We were face to face, in front of a live audience and the candidates met each other and debated.

It was quite clear we each were responsible for our answers.

suzannelucas
Reply to  Vix Lowthion
24, March 2015 8:22 am

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hopelessromantic
24, March 2015 6:53 am

v disappointed in this so called mag for reporting this and obv defending turner! disgraceful behaviour from him! bad journalism from you.

Michael G
Reply to  hopelessromantic
24, March 2015 7:21 am

On The Wight defending Andrew Turner? Have you even read the article? Or the one from earlier in the day?

Reading your comment, it appears not.

Harriet
24, March 2015 9:45 am

I notice all the comments against Turner are being removed by moderators. Clear to see who bankrolls this rag!

Sally Perry
Admin
Reply to  Harriet
24, March 2015 9:51 am

Your comments were removed because they contained name-calling, potentially libelous comments and were full of vicious bile.

Sally Perry
Admin
Reply to  Sally Perry
24, March 2015 11:24 am

The dozen or so delusional rants that have attempted to added to this site since we stated that type of commenting is not welcome are reminiscent of a certain former [part of comment removed by moderator] who hypocritically took any opportunity to attack those who wished to comment anonymously.

Island Detective
Reply to  Sally Perry
24, March 2015 3:53 pm

Now I wonder who that could be?

RJC
24, March 2015 9:55 am

Once again there is a reference to the pensioner votes supporting the Tories. Lets just remember we are not the grey vote of old. We were the flower power and liberated youth who could make up their own minds and still can. We suffered at Thatchers hand. Fell on hard times in the three day week. Voted the liberals in on the island in a moment of… Read more »

Cynic
24, March 2015 11:28 am

Bloggers might find the following useful Isle Of Wight Constituency South East UK Electorate and turnout Electorate (persons) 109,922 n/a n/a Votes cast (votes) 70,264 n/a n/a Turnout (percent) 63.9% 68.2% 65.1% Majority (votes) 10,527 n/a n/a Majority as percentage of votes (percent) 15.0% n/a n/a Share of the vote by party Conservative Party share of the vote (percent) 46.7% Labour Party share of the vote (percent)… Read more »

Geoff Lumley
Reply to  Cynic
24, March 2015 9:23 pm

Cicero. Some intruding figures in there. We really shouldn’t trust government websites ! In 2010 Labour were massively squeezed by the then trusted LibDems down to 11.6% (from 17.2% in 2005), not 16.2%. Others were 10% not 8.3% – of which Ukip 3.5% *** BNP 2.1% English Democrats 1.8% Greens 1.3% *** Middle England(?) 0.9% others (3) 1.4% between them. The Island stopped voting LibDem after the… Read more »

Billy Builder
Reply to  Geoff Lumley
25, March 2015 6:49 am

Geoff: when you come off cloud cuckoo think about what is really best for Labour. The Labour party have contested the IOW seat for 110 years or so, but have never got anywhere near winning. Why should this election be any different. The Labour Party will not get an overall majority in this election, due in part to their inhalation in Scotland. A Labour SNP coalition (which… Read more »

Geoff Lumley
Reply to  Billy Builder
25, March 2015 8:35 am

BB. Cloud cuckoo land is more your abode than mine if you think the LibDems are a serious challenger on the Island at this election. For historical accuracy look at 1945. A long time ago I know, but it refutes your point about Labour. Labour voters in the North and South Wales won’t be massively fed up by a Labour/SNP ‘arrangement’. Just the largely Tory south. And… Read more »

Billy builder
Reply to  Geoff Lumley
25, March 2015 9:56 am

Geoff: In 1945 labour lost the election on IOW by 6%. And that is the best you have ever done. A labour / SNP coupling would be seen by the vast majority of English and Welsh voters as a gross betrayal, which would blight labour for years The only way to stand any chance of a centre / centre left win on the island is to ensure… Read more »

Cynic
Reply to  Cynic
25, March 2015 10:30 am

Geoff- what is the source of your alternative figures?

Geoff Lumley
Reply to  Cynic
26, March 2015 8:50 am

Personal records as the Labour Agent at the last three elections. Also just Google ‘Isle off Wight parliamentary election results’.

Or try http://www.iwight.com/azservices/documents/1174-Parliamentary%20-%20May%202010.pdf
and work out the percentages. Its not rocket science !

calderjon
24, March 2015 11:57 am

I think that’s the point Cicero, the one candidate who actually has the job they are all after was doing his best to do that job.

And he gets lambasted.

Disgusting really, people need to think this through before moaning.

Cynic
Reply to  calderjon
24, March 2015 12:36 pm

I calculate 4 years Oldie…. :-))

Oldie
24, March 2015 12:20 pm

I reckon we are going to need a new thread on the election every few days before long. For instance your statement Vix on tactical voting and RJC’s points are worth a thread of their own. Personally Vix I have been a tactical voter many times. Many of my acquaintances and not just on the Island have in the past voted Liberal as a protest not because… Read more »

Cynic
Reply to  Oldie
24, March 2015 12:38 pm

Ooops wrong place ! I calculate 4 years Oldie…. :-))

Vix Lowthion
Reply to  Oldie
24, March 2015 12:45 pm

Oldie. Me too. I voted ‘tactically’ in 2010 for the Lib Dems. Not only did it fail to achieve a Lib Dem MP – by a considerable 10k margin of defeat – but if I had succeeded my vote would have propped up a Conservative government. Each candidate/party needs to be thinking for the future. On the Isle of Wight we *must* move away from this 2… Read more »

Cynic
Reply to  Vix Lowthion
24, March 2015 1:12 pm

There is an argument that a minority government has to fight harder to get its ideological policies approved.

I am not in favour of coalition governments because I think they are weak with coalition partners having too much sway in return for their support (although it did not prove to be so in the current coalition.

Charlie Hill
Reply to  Vix Lowthion
24, March 2015 1:15 pm

@vixlowthion. What do you have to say to the fact that we are a two party Island? It’s not me saying this, but the past election results. The demographics of the Isle of Wight are mostly conservative or liberal democrat. The island is mostly middle class. This is like many areas in the UK, it’s not a conspiracy or ploy against any other candidate or party. Just… Read more »

Ian Young
Reply to  Charlie Hill
24, March 2015 2:26 pm

Until the mid seventies the two parties were in fact Tories and Labour. The Lib Dems are relative newcomers to the modern Island Political scene.

The rise of Island Liberals had little to do with demographics and more to do with Labour’s self destruction tendency that was operating at the time.

To be fair a dodgy Tory MP, and a rather good Liberal candidate did also help.

Charlie Hill
Reply to  Ian Young
24, March 2015 2:49 pm

You say that. But labour have never come close to winning an election here. Second, a few times. But even then, I think their strongest ever result was around 30%, against a Tory 50% and that was with really high turnouts. The Island for this election is most likely one of the strongest Tory seats and the Lib Dem vote won’t be decimated here, like predicted. Damaged,… Read more »

Ian Young
Reply to  Ian Young
24, March 2015 3:15 pm

Labour did in fact come second at all elections from 1931 (the earliest result I can find) until 1974.

Labour peaked at 40.74% but that was in 1945.

All this is History and of no relevance to this year’s election, I was simply pointing your two party theory did for a long period of time involve Labour.

Vix Lowthion
Reply to  Charlie Hill
24, March 2015 7:25 pm

We must stop looking to the past when deciding how to vote – or we are never going to change things. We live in the present and we must vote accordingly.

Ian Young
Reply to  Vix Lowthion
24, March 2015 9:14 pm

Yes we do live in the present Vix I agree.

So please rest assured I am following your utterances on an almost daily basis, and that when the time comes I will indeed be voting accordingly.

Billy Builder
Reply to  Vix Lowthion
24, March 2015 1:25 pm

The voting system is designed to work with two parties. With plurality the system does not work. If you do not support one of the two main parties in a given constituency then effectively you have no vote. The best you can hope to achieve is favouring the candidate who is most likely to help your case. Lets consider the coming election. IOW is by nature Tory/Libdem.… Read more »

Oldie
24, March 2015 12:26 pm

Totally superfluous but I know about all my spelling and grammatical mistakes- wretched predictive texting and wretched sensitive iPhone keyboards!

roger mazillius
24, March 2015 2:49 pm

Sally, I am very sorry to read your post at 11.24am today which could be taken to suggest I am the “former Councillor” posting “a dozen or so delusional rants attempted to be added to this site”. I can assure you that I have no connection whatsoever with these posts and as a result your implication that they could have been posted by me is clearly defamatory… Read more »

Geoff Corby
Reply to  roger mazillius
24, March 2015 3:01 pm

I’m pretty sure that from the original post, most people didn’t have had a clue what Sally was on about or who she might have ben talking about. I certainly certainly didn’t make the any connection to you. In fact, I’m no expert but had you not posted that, I’d never had known. Surely by coming forward like that and identifying yourself as the person that she… Read more »

Billy Builder
Reply to  roger mazillius
24, March 2015 3:05 pm

Roger: pot kettle and black I sayeth unto you !

Sally Perry
Reply to  roger mazillius
24, March 2015 6:21 pm

Roger, You seem to have jumped forward to claim a crown that had no obvious connection to you.

For the avoidance of doubt, I’ve removed part of my comment.

Island Eye reader
Reply to  roger mazillius
24, March 2015 7:03 pm

If the cap (crown) fits?

The threat of litigation is a familiar tactic employed, even if there was no hint of the miscreants identity whatsoever.

Cynic
Reply to  Island Eye reader
24, March 2015 7:59 pm

You forget that OTW could also be held liable.

Oldie
24, March 2015 3:11 pm

In the 2010 UK Polling Report the Island is described as a semi marginal Conservative seat. Back then UKIP only polled 2,435 and the Greens 931. It stands to reason it must be even more semi marginal now. In 2014 I remember in the European Election on the Island UKIP went up to over 16,000. Where did these votes come from? Only about 40% turned out to… Read more »

Billy builder
Reply to  Oldie
24, March 2015 3:22 pm

So the Tory vote is split 2 ways say 80:20 in favour of the Tories. The centre left vote is split 4 ways say 40:30:20:10 (LD:IND:LAB:GR). A clear win for the Tories unless the centre/centre left vote for a single candidate.

Cynic
Reply to  Billy builder
24, March 2015 3:27 pm

Good analysis

Cynic
Reply to  Oldie
24, March 2015 3:25 pm

See OTW report 25 May 2014 (Turnout was 31.7%)

UKIP 14533
Conservative 9335
Green Party 3854
Labour Party 3708
Liberal Democrats 1969
An Independence From Europe 841
English Democrats 341
British National Party 294
Christian Peoples Alliance 237
The Peace Party 139
Socialist Party of Great Britain 77
The Roman Party 54
YOURvoice 49
Liberty GB 42
The Harmony Party 35

milly
24, March 2015 5:06 pm

No decent politics here then. No decent questions on issues facing islanders, and obviously no decent answers.

Cynic
Reply to  milly
24, March 2015 6:19 pm

Looks like a load of generic political “Wouldn’t be nice” bullshoot from all candidates- not impressive, i’m sorry to say AT still looks like the Least Worst choice to me. :-((

Vix Lowthion
Reply to  milly
24, March 2015 7:23 pm

What are you reading?

Cynic
Reply to  Vix Lowthion
24, March 2015 8:00 pm

Twestion Time tweets

Vix Lowthion
Reply to  Cynic
24, March 2015 8:05 pm

There were lots of questions about island issues though. The questions submitted were the ones asked.

Cynic
Reply to  Vix Lowthion
24, March 2015 8:10 pm

Yes- the often vacuous answers to those questions were what disappointed me.

Vix Lowthion
Reply to  Vix Lowthion
24, March 2015 8:38 pm

The tweeters – a bank of computers at the side – were limited to 140 characters. Lends a tendency towards sounding vacuous.

Cynic
Reply to  Vix Lowthion
25, March 2015 10:34 am

True Vix- perhaps that is why a more experienced politician decided that the limit of 140 words was not a good platform to explain a political stance as the explanations would inevitably become vacuous.?

milly
25, March 2015 12:39 am

Well, if there are any ‘young conservatives’ on the island, I would imagine that Turner and his agents have just shot themselves in the foot. He’s just lost his youth vote (if he had any).

Oldie
25, March 2015 7:43 am

So this was all a storm in a teacup. It does prove how candidates are dependent on good agents who need to be able to respond to the media quickly before a Pandora’s box is opened. Time to move on and get back to talking about the main issues like the economy, housing, NHS, employment.

Albert Street
25, March 2015 8:18 am

In my opinion the biggest single political issue of this election is the threat of Alex Salmond and the SNP. He is reported to have said: “The former Scottish First Minister said the Scottish National Party would vote down a Tory Queen’s Speech if it holds the balance of power after the general election.” Source Daily Mail online This makes it even more important to ensure we… Read more »

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