Christ the King College secures ‘a complete rebuild’

Funding to rebuild the entire College has been approved

Thanks to Chris Whitehouse for sharing this latest news. Ed


The Principal of Christ the King College, Mrs Pat Goodhead, has today announced in a Newsletter to all parents of students at the College that the College is to receive funding for a complete rebuild as part of the Government’s Priority Schools Building Programme.

Commenting today, Local Campaigner for Newport West Ward in which Christ the King College is located, Chris Whitehouse says, “Christ the King College has been working hard for this result. I also personally met the Minister for Schools recently to discuss the matter.

“Since then I have discussed the need for major rebuilding of both Carisbrooke College and Christ the King College with the Island MP, Andrew Turner, and with the Leader of the Council, David Pugh. This is fantastic news for the College.”

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But the news could be even better for local residents, argues Whitehouse, saying, “There are no less than five schools in the immediate area of Wellington Road, Newport. They are all great schools; staff and students are rightly proud of them, but there are simply too many of them.

“We must now explore whether the opportunity of the rebuilding at the College can enable it to move to a brand new site, reducing impact upon local residents who do currently experience severe problems with traffic congestion at school run time and noise at other times of the day. Such a move would be great for Christ the King and great for local residents. A win win!”

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Cynic

Nice site for development as well……… :-))

downwind resident

Pretty central location for an alternative new asphalt plant. Does this add up ?

Adam

Unless they are looking for a brand new site, I assume they are planning to demolish the lower school and Carisbrooke Primary, rebuild and move Carisbrooke over the road, so CTK is all on one site.

Sally Perry

As CW says in the article, they will explore the idea of moving to a new site, to reduce “impact upon local residents who do currently experience severe problems with traffic congestion at school run time and noise at other times of the day.”

Adam

Have they started to build/completed the sixth form building yet, as I can’t see them moving away if this is built?

If they haven’t started the build, I doubt this will be built at all if they are moving away.

DH

A brand new site? Maybe at the near of Gunville Road end of Forest Road…

T's

I wonder if Janet Newton’s great-great-great-grandchildren will enjoy being the first to move into the new building?

A school for the 22nd century?

Mark L Francis

Although since it only takes god-botherers’ children to ram propaganda down their throats – a school for the 14th century perhaps?

random bloke
the school has a christian ethos. so what? they still cover the national curriculum. if you dont agree with Christianity, thats up to you, and you should perhaps choose another school if you have children. You should also have a bit of respect for those people who do hold religious beliefs and perhaps keep your bordering on bigoted comments to yourself. Whilst its up to Simon and… Read more »
Mark L Francis
I do not have a choice. my son was expelled aged 5 from a Christian School – but guess what? They still expect me to pay taxes to support them! This is only a way to keep out ethnic minorities of which my son – being Anglo-Pakistani is one of. He has learnt a lot about the religion of Love since and regularly came top of his… Read more »
Michael Douse

It is interesting to note that whilst this excellent school is encouraging Catholic and Church of England children to become good 21st Century citizens it is also managing to produce the best academic results on the island.
Could this be due to the Christian ethos?

Cynic

……… or the selection process?

wightywight

@Michael Douse:

It is a matter of opinion only that religious instruction, ethos and teachings equates to creating “good 21st Century citizens”…
Measuring that is intolerably abstract for a start…..
Might we extend that notion also to Ryde School, I wonder?
Where clearly the financial ability to pay hefty fees (appears to) produces achievers and well balanced citizens also…?

WW

No.5

You have to be kidding right….if there is a christian ethos, it is one of torture murder and bigotry

There should be no religous schools and no religion in schools until kids are old enough to understand and reject it

wightywight
@Jon: I’ll tell you “what” Jon. If people decide they want to be christian…that’s up to them. In my view, it’s irrational but there we are. If people decide that they want a christian education…so be it. If schools set up as *academies* or *private ventures* ..so be it. What is NOT correct is that government funding is given to faith schools. It indefensible, it’s wrong and… Read more »
random bloke
well I didnt say that they should be state funded. I simply pointed out that Marks comment is offensive, almost bigoted, and that perhaps he should have more respect for people who hold different beliefs to his own. I have no idea what his beliefs are, but from his comment it seems he is not a christian. For the record, I think faith schools should be partially… Read more »
wightywight
@Jon: QUOTE:…..”and suggesting that propaganda is being taught is just factually incorrect. ” Jon, that’s so incorrect as to almost not warrant a reply….. but I will! Part of the (huge?) problem with Faith schools – alongside the state funding – is that there IS a religious agenda, there is religious teaching and there is an utter bias towards the belief that (their) god exists. As I… Read more »
random bloke
the school has a christian ethos. it does not reach religious propaganda, indoctrination, or engage in any sort of brainwashing as seems to be insinuated by some people. How do I know? Because Ive worked there and seen for myself. I cant speak for all faith schools, but Christ the King is an excellent school staffed by excellent people from the head right down to the cleaners.… Read more »
No.5

What is this ‘christian ethos’ you are wittering on about?

Mark L Francis
Bigotted? Was it me that burnt thousands at the stake to maintain a thousand years of superstitious ignorance? More Christians were persecuted by bigots from their own religion than by anyone else. When the Crusaders captured Jerusalem in 1099 they killed 25000 people and actually ATE another 25000 ! Why should I respect do religious beliefs have an especially quality that one should not question which other… Read more »
random bloke
question beleif by all means. However, suggesting a school only takes “god botherers children to ram propaganda down their throats” makes you as bigoted as those who perpetrated historical atrocities attributed to christianity. Your attitude is like saying that Muslin religious schools are breeding grounds for terrorists simply because Bin Laden was a terrorist. You are assuming that all people of faith everywhere are the same when… Read more »
Mark L Francis
My wife is a Muslim -although originally taught in a convent school in Pakistan, but she does not want to teach in a Muslim school either because she does not cover her head and Islamic fanatics tried to assassinate her. To say its ok because there are a handful of Islamic schools does not balance the third whose entry controlled by Christians and is step towards more… Read more »
random bloke
Christians are not behaving like crazed jihadists? what a ridiculous comment. Northern Ireland is an example of christian fundamentalism. So is the ku klux klan. more recently, we have radical preachers in america. Is your wife a terrorist because shes a muslim? no, of course not. Is CTK teaching religious propaganda? No, of course not. Yet you persist on insisting that religious schools promote religious propaganda, seem… Read more »
Cynic

The operational funds of “academies” (pseudo-trusts run by crypto-capitalists, religious denominations and ideology-orientated institutions)are provided by the taxpayer. This is addition to the free gift of valuable land and buildings previously owned by the taxpayers having been handed over when the “academies” were being established.

Mark L Francis
Thanks for the back handed compliment Jon, but can we keep the personal name-calling down? My point is that the reason that not all Christians are terrorists – like the examples you so helpfully gave – & I think the KKK merely use religious bigotry to promote their racism, but that’s another story…or maybe not – is that they have been exposed to secular humanism. It is… Read more »
random bloke
so you dont like personal name calling, yet you are willing to suggest the teachers at CTK are promoting propaganda? You are willing to refer to students parents as God Botherers? What a shame I had to call you a paranoid idiot to finally get that point through to you. I also find it hypocritical that your objections seem to be based on the fact that your… Read more »
wightywight
@Jon: CTK has more than a christian ethos…..it has a christian curriculum. Go figure. I’d say that money – witness Ryde School – also improves “significantly” the “quality of education”…. wouldn’t you? …but don’t even try to start suggesting that “students” ( I prefer the word children and the notion of pre age of reason …)who are indoctrinated – for that is what they are however you… Read more »
Mark L Francis
Jon, Jon. Jon… it is not that I don’t like personal name calling – it is because the rules of VB/OTW forbid it. I am not calling staff at CTK or yourself “paranoid idiots” – I have no reason to believe they are, nor really yourself, but I think you should take a breather right now. The Taliban are generally illiterate and cannot read the Qu’ran, but… Read more »
random bloke
nope, your not calling anyone a paranoid idiot. you are referring to people as “god botherers” and suggesting that the school “rams propaganda down their [students] throats”. I find both of those things just as offensive as you find the words paranoid idiot. WHy can you not see that? Why do you think its ok for you to make personal comments about a whole group of people,… Read more »
JohnR

If they have enough funds for a new school could they not also afford to pay for their own school travel?

Cynic
@jon “…suggesting that propaganda is being taught is just factually incorrect.” Change the word to “indoctrination” any better? Factually correct? The role of Religious schools is to intermingle their specific religious doctrines (that word again!)with normal educational curricula This is done when the students are an impressionable age. In my schooling I was similarly indoctrinated for ten years by being educated from pre-primary to secondary by a… Read more »
steve s

Lot of bigotry from you ‘enlightened’ folk on this thread. Isn’t that what you usually accuse the ‘god-botherers’ of?
Did you see their GSCE results? ;-)

steve s

*GCSE.

random bloke

Its completely unfair that I can only like your comment once.

Cynic

I believe you said you worked there?

random bloke
i used to work there. I dont any more. I fail to see what that has to do with liking an excellent comment. I am so far from being religious in any way that the term agnostic barely does it justice. However, the christian ethos at the school contributes greatly to discipline and generates a desire to learn. If some bloke being nailed to a cross 2000… Read more »
Cynic

You use the emotive word “propaganda” whereas the proper word should be “indoctrination” i.e. the teaching of doctrine.

Do you believe that the College does not teach Christian doctrine?

steve s

Isn’t all education ‘indoctrination’, though, cynic… at least in the early years? Your problem. surely, is that you happen not to approve of this particular flavour?

random bloke
First of all, I didnt use the word propaganda. Mark Francis did. Second, no, the school does not go out of its way to teach christian doctrine. Christianity is an underlying ethos within the school, but in all lessons a balanced curriculum is taught which includes views on Islam, Buddhism, Judaism and all manner of other religions – which is exactly as it should be. About the… Read more »
Cynic
@jon “However, the christian ethos at the school contributes greatly to discipline and generates a desire to learn” ………………………. Probably true. ……………………….. @jon “Christianity is an underlying ethos within the school, but in all lessons a balanced curriculum is taught which includes views on Islam, Buddhism, Judaism and all manner of other religions – which is exactly as it should be.” ………………………… Presumably those views on other… Read more »
Mark L Francis
Well terrific to know that other people’s kids are getting good GCSE results. There’s always people wanting to step forward claiming to be Christians when there is something in it for them. If you got fined for being a Roman Catholic for instance – as in the 17th century – then it would be a lot less popular (1.5% & most of them rich people). Oh and… Read more »
wightywight
@steve s: ALL education is indoctrination…? Hardly….. Unless, of course you wish to extend the understanding of that word outside of the confines of which it has been used in this ‘thread’ Religion (as opposed to belief and faith)depends upon *indoctrination* to impart ‘its’ tenets and beliefs. Just about all, if not all, religious movements undertake the same pattern by indoctrinating children. Usually those before the age… Read more »
steve s

@WW
A fair point, well made. I was, indeed, working with a broader understanding of the word.

Cynic
@Mark “There’s always people wanting to step forward claiming to be Christians when there is something in it for them. If you got fined for being a Roman Catholic for instance – as in the 17th century – then it would be a lot less popular (1.5% & most of them rich people). Oh and that was not atheists but Protestants that did that.” It works the… Read more »
Cynic
Christ the King College appears to promote a message and attitude similar to that of my college (mumbledy-mumble) years ago that indoctrinated me. Thus, I find it difficult to believe that given the following mission, ethos and aims statements from the College’s website claims that it does not set out to provide a solid grounding in Christian doctrine as part of the education, i.e. “indoctrination”. Again, nothing… Read more »
Mark L Francis

Damn right cynic.
The entire concept of “propaganda” is from the Church of Rome or the “Sacred Congregation de Propagande Fide” which is charged with spreading “Catholicism” to non- catholic countries.

Mark L Francis

Anyway – what’s this with Christ The King asking politicians round to give pupils a diverse range of alternative ideas. Michael Mates and Ann Widdecombe? (?)

local
Who say local residents want the school moved though? Has anyone asked them all? I would imagine most would be in favour of such a good school as Christ the King being on that site. Traffic problems are one thing, but many local residents will have children at the school, bought there homes happy in the knowledge the schools were nearby and would not want it to… Read more »
local
One quick way to solve the traffic problems would be for the schools to club together and buy the derelict petrol station site at the bottom of Wellington Rd, with it’s easy in and out access to both roads, and turn it into a bus / coach / dropping off site for all the schools to use. Any traffic congestion issues, which aren’t exactly a massive issue… Read more »
18
Why not ask the students of Christ the King how they feel about this so-called “propaganda” being shoved down their throats? Speaking as a former ABK student, I never felt like religious views were forced upon me and I know that my siblings (who currently attend Christ the King) would agree with me. Although the Christan ethos may help bring a sense of family and community to… Read more »
random bloke

well said. Unfortunately some people on here simply enjoy disagreeing. I have worked at CTK and know what it is like. You have been a student, so also know. However, Ive now reached the conclusion that it is pointless trying to change the minds of some of the people on here. They have their views, some of which are incredibly narrow minded, and thats that.

No.5

still no clearer on what a ‘christian ethos’ is?

random bloke

if you really dont know what a christian ethos is, go and educate yourself.

Mark L Francis

It is not just a question of whether those of you allowed to go there have a nice school but why others are excluded.

Mike

Are non Christians excluded? What proof have you?

Cynic

No, they are not excluded.

However only 20 places out of a 216 intake are for Category C children who have another faith or no faith.
(see CTK Admission policy)

oldgirl
@cynic There are 98 places for Catholic pupils, 98 for Christian pupils and 20 for others. My children went to Catholic schools from 3 till 18, we are not Catholic. They do not practice any religion and the Catholic faith was not pushed at them at all. Now they have children of their own they are desperate to get a Christian school education for their children because… Read more »
Cynic
@oldgirl Is that not what I said? :-)) 196 for Christian applicants 20 for non-Christian applicants? I too was schooled at an RC college but one where the faith was pushed down my throat. But the education was good so I understand the desire for your grandchildren to be educated at a faith school. However, given the faith background you stated held by their parents, they would… Read more »
Mark L Francis
Sounds to me that are in effect excluded. You can come in but you are at the back of the queue so if there are any places the Roman Catholics do not want you can come in. Or as the school my son told my wife “Why doesn’t your husband come to Church and pretend to be a Christian?” -well that’s good because he’s white. So St… Read more »
oldgirl
@Cynic, what you said was that there are only 20 places for children who have another faith or no faith making it sound that 196 places were solely for Catholic children when it is actually 98 places. My children’s desire for a good education for their children is what all parents aspire to. Unfortunately it does seem that Christian schools offer a higher standard of education. If… Read more »
Cynic
@oldgirl Try reading again what I actually said, which was “However only 20 places out of a 216 intake are for Category C children who have another faith or no faith. (see CTK Admission policy)” I do not see the word “Catholics” in that sentence. However you are right about the difference in quality measured by exam results. It has been argued here that the difference is… Read more »
oldgirl

@cynic and there we agree!

BRIAN
Very interesting discussions going on here. With respet to religion and schools, I find it perverse that a place of learning which is supposed to educate people in proven knowledge, also teaches as fact those things which are merely “belief” They should be taught not to believe anything, they either know or don’t know. For example, at morning assembly in Christian faith schools, the proceedings might commence… Read more »
playingthenumbers
The points which nobody have made are that successful schools are at the heart of a communities and vice versa. Why is a successful school looking to relocate away from the families it serves? Most of the estate that CTK serves was been built after the school; people moved there knowing the school was a feature of the community. I’d wager that many families moved there because… Read more »
Cynic
“The worst primary schools in the UK are to be turned into academies in an attempt to drive up standards. Prime Minister David Cameron wants 400 primaries paired with sponsors or to be in the process of becoming an academy by the end of the year.” More transfer of taxpayers’ money, buildings and land into private pockets! Given the general lack of success of the Island’s academies… Read more »