Daft Old Duffer: Cheating The Taxpayer

So our sparkly new government are planning to bring fire and brimstone down on all those benefit cheats.

Daft Old Duffer: Cheating The TaxpayerJust like all the incoming governments that went before. And with precisely the same result. Nothing but misery.

Here’s why
The front line troops of the benefit army consist almost invariably of young people, many of them recent school leavers who have taken the job until something better comes along. Or until they get promoted under the dead man’s shoes system and get replaced by yet more ex-schoolchildren of no life experience whatever.

There are no doubt some keen and experienced interviewers about. But you’d have to trawl more than a few offices to locate one.

And facing them across the desk they eye two types of claimant.

The two types
First, and in the majority, are those represented by the over-60s man who will never get re-employed and who earns a few illicit pounds by building a porch on his neighbours house; the single mother who takes an undeclared job cleaning other people’s lavatories for a few hours a week; and the youngster who, disillusioned by the string of courses and short term jobs is attempting to build a grass cutting round.

And the second is represented by the hardened and experienced fraudster, knowing far more than the interviewer all the ins and outs of the benefit system and how best to exploit its many loopholes. A man or woman seasoned in lying, ready to employ some verbal aggression if necessary, and probably in contact with others who can teach yet more wily ways to manipulate the system.

When one of our great leaders declares a clamp-down – giving the firm impression they will be taking personal control of the battle – all that happens in practice is that a stern warning is issued to the benefit chiefs – a warning promptly passed on and down – that ‘Something Must Be Done’.

Guess who the Something will be done to?
Certainly not the hard to handle, often aggressive professional fraudster, that’s for sure.

Every now and then we hear great trumpetings in the media about some professional fraudster caught and punished. But the very fuss created demonstrates the rarity of such success. A success almost always set in motion not by some skilled work of detection but by some careless slip-up by the over confident criminal.

Which results in months of investigation by whole teams of ‘detectives’ and ends with the criminal repaying some of his stealings.

And with his fellows, having been alerted by his detection, free to carry on as before, totally contemptuous of those appointed to stop them.

Instead it will be the mild, once in a lifetime transgresser who will be confronted, humiliated, bullied and terrorised by the smug, never been anywhere, never experienced anything investigator. Who will brandish his warrant card and proudly announce his powers of search and interrogation – greater than that of the police, he will emphasise – as well as his power to stop all benefit payments forthwith, without need for proof or reason.

Precisely the people our great leader has vowed to protect.

Image: Paul Kehrer under CC BY 2.0

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zyzer
31, August 2010 4:00 pm

Senile old bigot more like, what an embarrassment

jonnyhotrod
Reply to  zyzer
31, August 2010 5:08 pm

Why senile old bigot?

jonnyhotrod
Reply to  zyzer
1, September 2010 2:43 pm

Still itching to know why you’ve said senile old bigot?

seb
Reply to  zyzer
2, September 2010 7:20 pm

mr duffer is neither senile nor bigoted.

in fact, for a man of advanced years, he’s mentally astute IMHO.

Don Smith
Reply to  zyzer
2, September 2010 7:31 pm

I have no objection to anyone who is struggling on the social making a little bit on the side – Let’s face it our MPs make £1000s on the side, so who are they to preach to others?

Since I heard that Lord Coe was paid over £300.000
to run the Olympic 2012 I have stopped doing the lottery.

Tenspeed
31, August 2010 5:09 pm

The goverment have only ever made changes in one way: Problem – you create a problem. A war (Iraq, for the oil), Illness (Swine flu was way overblown). A terrorist attack (used to justify the shooting on the underground). Promote the this through the media after sending the story through so many PR companies. Leading us on to stage two: Reaction – WHAT WILL YOU DO? SOMETHING… Read more »

zyzer
1, September 2010 4:35 pm

The deluded stereotypical generalisations portrayed as insight.
Perhaps the itching could be connected to your intimate knowledge of cottagers?

intentionally blank
Reply to  zyzer
1, September 2010 4:48 pm

perhaps if your only goal is to make personal comments to try and wind people up you should find something better to do with your time.

zyzer
1, September 2010 5:52 pm

I was pressed twice to explain a comment that was self explanatory and, and I was unfamiliar with the term cottager until Mr Hotrod had used it in a previous article. I consider his article to be offensive, little doubt I will be blocked by this website for saying so but given their reputation for doing just that but I really couldn’t care as its hardly any… Read more »

N0.5
Reply to  zyzer
1, September 2010 11:56 pm

correct..you won’t be any great loss

intentionally blank
Reply to  zyzer
2, September 2010 8:27 am

its all about how you say it. calling someone a senile old bigot could be considered offensive unless you back it up with why you think that. You shouldnt be banned for giving your opinion. If you do get banned it will be because you have made your opinions into personal comments. Try giving your opinion without a personal comment and people might give you the time… Read more »

intentionally blank
Reply to  intentionally blank
2, September 2010 8:29 am

further to that…. i remember reading on a different island news website a while back a comment from someone saying that they come to ventnor blog and use different names to make comments intended to wind people up. I do hope your not that kind of person…

Sally Perry
Admin
Reply to  zyzer
2, September 2010 9:46 am

Commentators don’t get banned for expressing an opinion. The 28,982 approved comments are proof of that.

If you attempt to impersonate someone else (an illegal act) or write something highly offensive or inappropriate you will be added to a moderation list. Less than a handful of people have consistently abused the rules and been banned for life.

zyzer
2, September 2010 10:22 am

This website is also gaining the reputation for being a malicious attack site, and Im not just referring to the provocation displayed by the present company of old trouser stains who feel threatened by anyone who interrupts the monotony of their constant flirting with one and other

No.5
Reply to  zyzer
2, September 2010 10:39 am

now your trying your hardest to get banned so you can join that pathetic little gang of back stabbers.

Quite funny really..is it like an initiation test ;)

ForumFan
Reply to  No.5
2, September 2010 11:24 am

Zyzer’s bitter comments are all too familiar – not hard to work out who he is then. Remember the golden rule – never feed a troll.

zyzer
2, September 2010 10:45 am

Any website that has two sets of moderation rules is going to attract troublemakers, fortunately Im not one of those so will leave you to your flirting, best of luck I hope he doesn’t just use you and then discard you

No.5
Reply to  zyzer
2, September 2010 11:06 am

Only two….The ones I moderate have more than that. There s the flexible rules for those that post sensibly, but occassionaly cross the line, the strict rule, for those that don’t understand blogs and forums and constantly use them for personal attacks, and the dictatorial rule for those that purposely set out to disrupt. You will find that the other less succesful (but equally welcome) blogs and… Read more »

zyzer
2, September 2010 11:17 am

“correct..you won’t be any great loss” You a moderator? Dont make me laugh! The above was a direct attempt to provoke an adverse reaction in your knowledge that you are permitted to do just that, and wasn’t even a response to a comment made to you. Your comments on blogs and forums are only taking a very narrow view of the islands websites. The web is an… Read more »

No.5
Reply to  zyzer
2, September 2010 11:35 am

There you go, making unfounded assumptions again..you really should check what you claim otherwise people will call you a liar, which I’m sure you’re not.

I’m not a moderator on here..wouldn’t dream of it, I’m far to strict on idiots and trolls (and would have to moderate myself ;) )

zyzer
2, September 2010 11:52 am

And if you had read my comment I never stated you were a moderator on here, I just questioned your suitability to be a moderator anywhere. Your failing to read the comment before reacting backs that up further

N0.5
Reply to  zyzer
2, September 2010 6:33 pm

which again re-iterates just how little you know :)

Nobby
2, September 2010 6:43 pm

What a load of old tosh. If you knew anything about the benefits system you would know that “investigators” dont go anywhere near the “front line”. The problems these days are that the Human Rights Act gets in the way of watching suspects, “investigators” are too few and far between and penalties imposed on fraudulent claimants are a joke. Change the benefit system now ! Do what… Read more »

daft old duffer
Reply to  Nobby
2, September 2010 7:52 pm

Sorry Nobby,you are entirely wrong.The special investigators are hovering everywhere,instantly ready to jump in ‘at the front line’ as you term it.
Either you are deliberately mis-informing or you are the one who doesn’t know what he is talking about. Talking tosh as you put it.

Nobby
Reply to  daft old duffer
3, September 2010 11:58 am

You dont know what you are talking about. Special investigators dont see the public until there is evidence of fraud. If they worked on the front line and saw every Tom Dick and Harry then everyone would know what they looked like and they wouldnt be “special” anymore.

N0.5
Reply to  Nobby
3, September 2010 12:03 pm

You are both right and both wrong, there are different types of investigators and administrators who investigate claims. When a fraud is suspected (discovered by investigators) then it is passed to ‘special’ investigators who do trail suspects..so are ‘front line’

This government is currently rolling out using credit agencies and tracing agencies to tender for this business, so another level of investigation is being added

seb
2, September 2010 7:18 pm

don’t let the criticism get you down – Daft Old Duffer.

i think your post makes a lot of sense.

daft old duffer
Reply to  seb
2, September 2010 7:46 pm

Thanks Seb
In fact it will take a lot more than the immature gibberings of zyzer types to get me down.
Interesting that to date no-one has attempted to refute my piece.Could it be that what I assert is spot-on?

Ultimate Drunk
2, September 2010 7:52 pm

Looks like the moaner has come back to VB and the G since he has been unwanted on other sites.

Do some people ever get bored?

zyzer
2, September 2010 9:12 pm

I appear to have you intrigued as to my identity but Im sorry to disappoint as I dont even live on the island. The moaner I assume is the one person who is willing to take the island Council on, and win. Yet ironically the rest of you just moan over and over about them but never do any more than moan, which is why they are… Read more »

intentionally blank
Reply to  zyzer
2, September 2010 9:40 pm

your identity is no ones buisness but your own. what has people a little bit riled is your personal comments. your comments seem calculated to get a rise. if you want to give your opinion fine, if you want to slag people off then dont bother. think of it this way, would you say what you have said to peoples faces? would you call DOD a senile… Read more »

zyzer
2, September 2010 9:57 pm

Im from Pompey, quite a lot of us observe the island websites as we find it fascinating that you get treated like dirt yet just vote them back in again.
It would appear you enjoy it which really is quite bizarre although entertaining

N0.5
Reply to  zyzer
2, September 2010 11:19 pm

It says quite a lot that you come from Pompey but still make that effort to come on an Island blog and denegrate an old man voicing his opinion.

Methinks Portsmouth is being robbed of your important input

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