Hospice Withdraws From The Gazette

The Earl Mountbatten Hospice has decided to part ways with The Gazette.

The Earl Mountbatten Hospice has decided to part ways with The Gazette.

Gazette logoWhen The Gazette launched about two years back, part of the offering was that when you picked up a free copy, you put a donation in the collection box, which went to the Earl Mountbatten Hospice.

At the end of last week, the Earl Mountbatten Hospice made the decision to withdraw from the arrangement, “in order to allow another charity to benefit from the donations.”

We heard back from the Hospice today, when they sent us the following statement …

The Board of Trustees of Earl Mountbatten Hospice wishes to express its sincere thanks to everyone at the Gazette for their support over the past two years.

Since 2008, when the Hospice became the beneficiary of donations from Islanders for the Gazette, over £25,000 has been raised for the Hospice for the care of our patients.

We now believe that the time is right to withdraw from this arrangement in order to allow another charity to benefit from the donations. As a gesture to the newspaper and whichever charity will benefit in the future, we are happy to donate our newspaper stands and collecting boxes for use by that charity.

Graham Elderfield
Chief Executive

We spoke to Jason, who edits the Gazette, who told us, “We’re gutted to hear it. We’ve raised over £38,000 for the Hospice over the time.”

When we asked about the future, Jay told us, “We’ll be offering our support to another Island charity.”

Tuesday, 23rd March, 2010 12:52pm

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steve s

Are we to conclude from this that beggars can, in fact, be choosers?

Mike

Any one noticed the Gazette is not publishing this week because of “printing problems”

Sandie

Do you think the “Printing problems” are true?

Mr Cashflow

Maybe it’s problems ‘paying’ the printers? Or the curse of Pugh strikes again? The island Mafiosi can reach mainland printers!

Adam

Of course, this has nothing to do with Pughgate and the letters in last week’s IWCP!

keithybaby

Can’t say I’m surprised – when you rock the boat there are going to be casualties, it’s just a pity the Hospice didn’t have the guts to be honest, or am I reading the situation wrongly? Let’s hope it doesn’t stop the Gazette from being the maverick that it is and that it still continues to ask the questions that the CP fails to.

Noraa
Oh My God!! Its finally Offical!! How can a Charity turn their back on people who have raised so much for them, very dissappointed with the puppets (Board of Trustees of Earl Mountbatten Hospice) and the puppet masters pulling their strings. This happens at the same time as IW Gazette is running stories on Council and its so called leader. Hmmmm!! :(. This needs reporting at the… Read more »
mrs james
Its atotal disgrace and everyone should contact the Macmillan Trust as I have theres a very nice man who is responsible for Fundraising Issues that includes the isle of wight just go to the website and complain and he will contact you his name is Paul Morgan http://www.macmillan.org.uk/Fundraising/Fundraising.aspx Its been kept well under the carpet since Vectis Radio Broke the News last Friday when Jayson was a… Read more »
Don Smith
Freedom of speech is essential in a democracy. I would construe that a combination of Pughgate/ IoW Council and the IoW County Press played a major role in this decision. I enjoy reading the Gazette, not just because it is free but because it is so refreshing than reading the the (Tory) County Press. You (not me) pay 70p for 10% of local news and 90% of… Read more »
Shobba

What weasel words from Graham Elderfield, their £80,000 a year Chief Executive. Very obviously someone has been pulling strings. That’s it for me and the hospice. This is a terrible decision they have made. My kids and I will send back our walk numbers and support Sue Ryde instead.

Mrs A

I shall walk the Wight with my children as they will be disappointed if we don’t,but I shall be senting our money to another charity.

Joan Harrison

I’ll never forget the help the people at the hospice gave my mum.

Linda Chester

…and I will never forget the kindness and care that was given by the EMH to two of my dear friends and, as was their wishes, I will continue to support the Hospice, through one or more of the many other fund raising events, so as others may benefit from this wonderful care in the future.

Shobba

Sue Ryder – a national hospice charity

Mike iow

Totally concur with this comment, the Gazette is nothing more than an editorial disaster, very biased in It’s reporting and containing nothing more than dross !, I’m not suprised Mr Elderfield has broken his involvement with this kind of Gutter Press !, who in their right mind would want to be associated with this “Freebe” ?.

Don Smith

I Read the Gazette not because it is free but because it can write more or less what is wants.

Had the Hospice management given the real reason for the break-up I would have not been as offended.
Spineless comes to mind.

The hospice does a good job, but I shall now look at it more has a business than a charity.

Starlite

final nail in the coffin? terrible rag – it’s an embarrassment and visitors to the island must find it astonishingly backwards! Full of posers from nightclubs and very little news content, poorly written at that. Glad the hospice has made a stand as I feel the charity has always had a good reputation.

Michaela

An embarrassment that has raised over £30,000 for the hospice???

Noraa

Hey Starlight, if you don’t like it, then don’t pick it up and don’t read it. Simples.

Shobba
Would the hospice take money from The News of the World, Sun, Star or Mirror? All are downmarket rags. This stinks. Elderfield has made a big mistake. You would think he had more important things to worry about. I hear from a volunteer friend that they have spent a fortune on an extension and building project that has been a disaster. They even upset and lost their… Read more »
Shobba

Perhaps someone can report them to the charity commissioners? I can’t believe a properly run charity can refuse donations.

dave the hat

well i for one,would like to suggest “haylands farm” as the new charity,after all,they are in need of support ….

Shobba

Great idea.

mrs james

I would like to suggest Isle of Wight MIND for the donations Im sure Paddy Noctor would not refuse any Funding Donated and a very worthwhile cause too…

peter

Better to give your money to haylands farm, or the riverside centre. From Pete.

Starlite
I would imagine they have thought long and hard about this, but probably saw the recent controversial article and found it distasteful and have separated themselves from it. To suggest they should stick with an association simply because it supplies them with funds is ludicrous. Taken to the extreme, would they take money from the BNP just because it was offered? Doubt it. I don’t think they… Read more »
Noraa

It is very clear Starlight, that you aren’t keen on the IW Gazette. But do you truly believe that the Hospice Board have done this due to an article in a local paper that has been reporting stories on the Council and its so called leader. If so, I rest my case, Elderfield and Pugh hand in hand. Also to compare Gazette to BNP, not clever.

Starlite

it’s you who is not clever – read my comment again and you will see I did not compare the two. I was just explaining why charities cannot just accept money from any source.

Noraa
Have you been clicking your own ‘I like this Comment’ again. tut tut!! Your words: “Taken to the extreme, would they take money from the BNP just because it was offered? Doubt it. I don’t think they had any choice.” I must be thick then, still seems like you are comparing them. Let the readers decide. Click ‘I Like This Comment’ for me, if you think Starlight… Read more »
Clarkee
Wow im shocked! Never again will I give them any of my hard earned money. I struggle through life on a low income but do understand how much money these places need to run I made sure I popped a pound in everytime even though I can’t afford it, but thought they relied on donations to run. Now I see then turning down Gazette money I’m thinking… Read more »
Clarkee

I see my comment made it in the gazette :)

Catfink

Me no understand – can someone tell me what has happened for them to make this decision. Its an awful lot of money to loose!

Noraa

sorry but without proof, this will never make sense. you will have to read the comments and make up your own mind.

Kerri

They should have thought a little bit more about all those that rely on the hospice before turning their backs on thousands of pounds.

Gordon Bennett

I will also stop giving money to the hospice the family collection boxes add up to £200+ per year
plus other donations
Elderfield should be sacked for bending to political pressure at the expence of the patients
If pugh is behind this he should hold his head in shame

Noraa
STOP, before we all withdraw our support for the Hospice, please stop and think, none of this is the fault of the real workers or the patients who really need this money to help them. Its up to yourselves what you do, but I for one, will keep hold of all the money I would normally donate to the Hospice and WHEN Graham Elderfield resigns or is… Read more »
mrs james

@Noraa Well said and I agree 100% with your sentiments lets start a FaceBook Campaign to get this noticed… People Power needs to be put into Action…

Big Chris

Mr Elderfield needs to go right now, along with the whole Board of Trustees. One things for sure, I’ll never give to the Island’s Hospice ever again whilst any of them are still there. This is snobbery, meddling, stinks of Pugh and the Hospice is poorer for it.

Noraa
And guess what, none of this will be reported by the council friendy IW Radio and IW County Press. This story needs to get on TV, everyone who doesn’t listen to Vectis Radio or read Ventnor Blog, needs to know, its the only way to gather the number of people with the power to out Elderfield (& Pugh if it can be proved) and get people wanting… Read more »
Noraa

I take it back, County Press have the story on their website. The last bit made me laugh though, see below:

“The hospice said recent criticism over the way the Gazette covered the behaviour of council leader Cllr David Pugh at a charity ball did not affect its decision.”

Well that clears that up then!!

Just Looking For The Cat

This can quickly be resolved. Let the media have unrestricted access to all of Mr Elderfield’s e mail correspondence since the Pughgate story broke, as well as that of the IWCC Communications Department, dear old Cllr Pugh, Ms Bushby and the Gazette too. Nothing to hide, nothing to fear? Cue tumbleweed and eerie church bell tolling in distance

hazel wyld

“And the band played believe it if you like!”

Clarkee
But its clear that a handshake did take place. ”We now believe that the time is right to withdraw from this arrangement in order to allow another charity to benefit from the donations.” So 38k raised by Gazette in 2 years and then dropped. and on the same day a press release goes out… Isle of Wight chip shop Corrie’s Cabin, is launching their sixth annual fundraising… Read more »
Mr T

Wonder if Mr Elderfield will be making up the £30000+ this (rumoured political? lodge made?) decision will cost the hospice in charitable funding over the next few years out of his very generous salary?

I doubt it.

Kerri

Guys, please don’t withdraw your support for the Hospice. Forget about the people at the top – the patients will need donations more now than ever and it would be terrible to boycott a charity that does such important work.

Clarkee

To late I’m afraid. Just hope Pugh gets his wallet out after the damage he has done…. or just hope his family don’t need the great services provided by the hospice.

suzy

Well if the hospice only accept donations from people who consider the council should be able to censor the press that rules me out in future I’m afraid.

The people making this decision are not fit to administer the donations in the first instance, which are made to the patients of the hospice not to them with their political agenda to satisfy.

Shobba

Hard not to believe dark forces are at work on the island. Cross certain people at your peril.

Gruntled of Bembridge
I must admit it seems a shame that EMH should suffer just because it has got caught up in something not of its making (EMH that is NOT personalities invoved.) Whatever their resoning it is appalingly bad timing and inept handling and does, I’m afraid, cast serious doubts upon the leadership of EMH. Would’ve been far better to have waited and then quietly parted with the Gazette… Read more »
mrs james

Totally agree with what you say here but I have found that out the hard way and have reached an age now where I just dont care anymore I say what I think and campaign for all good causes…
I have instructions in place should I depart this world or have a bad accident…

mrs james

my reply was to Shobba post by the way…

suzy

And ironically the local authority should, by rights, be funding the hospice in the first place.

Pughs disgraceful behaviour is having far reaching ramifications due to the way this Island is run.

A voice with no name
Let’s face it, this is another example of a Potter project going down the drain. The Gazette is a mixture between the Weekly Ad, displaying mostly ads, and Facebook, with all the nightclub photos. It is very controversial, and many a times I have picked it up, seen the front cover and thought ‘surely they can’t do that’ – i.e. ‘Pughnocchio’ Mr. Potter doesn’t know how to… Read more »
Adam

Ummm….Martin Potter has not been involved with the Gazette for a good 6 months or perhaps more now

A voice with no name

I thought he still owned it?

Jason came to the Island in July last year, did some photos of the Vestas situation and then started work for the Gazette…

Adam

Nope. He sold his share back to William Smith last year and took back Island Life to his own personal ownership. There was an article in IWCP on it, but it isn’t on the site as far as I can see.

James Arrow

There’s nothing wrong with a good rant as long as it is passionate. There is nothing wrong with the Gazette though and it’s a substitute for the CP monopoly that has faced a number of challenges lately.

Mr T
I think that pretty much sums up how I feel about the Gazette. It’s very much finding its feet, and I cringed at the appalling number of typos in the Pughnocchio edition, but the fact it’s actually challenging the CPs ‘ask no questions, get no answers” malaise can only be a good thing. It’s probably already run more articles challenging the status quo on the island than… Read more »
Shobba
The Pughnoccio idea was similar to a cartoon that I believe first appeared in the CP? If it was good enough for one paper then it’s good enough for another. Most people are snobs when it comes to tabloid red tops. I find them entertaining and let’s face it, they do often seem to get big stories. Compared with the lame and tame CP the Gazette is… Read more »
Victor Meldrew
It seems to have passed some people by that the Gazette is a “red top” and pretends to be nothing else. With the Gazette, CP and Ventnor Blog we have, at last, a vibrant and disparate fourth estate, this is a sign of a healthy democracy. To return to a one paper society would be a sign of a one party state. We’ve known that in the… Read more »
Mr T

Very nicely put. It’s easy to snobbishly dismiss The Gazette, but those who don’t like it don’t have to read it.

You’re right about it adding to a more vibrant democracy, and I’d struggle to think why anyone would want rid of that. Most worrying of all, is that it appears certain councillors and some of the funny handshake brigade do…

Zoiner

Are you comparing IWCP with “Pravda” a bit inappropriate since “Pravda” means truth.

{Mind you the common joke in the USSR was that “Pravda” contained no truth and “Izvestia” (means news) contained no news.}

Victor Meldrew

Spot on Zoiner! Правда зависит, где Вы сидите

Zoiner

Боже мой…

Gruntled of Bembridge

Какой Бог является этим

Now we are really causing apoplectic fits in the High St. Reichstag. Look out Sal the thought police will be knocking down your door. Bunch of Commies ‘aint we

Tory Leek

I have it on very good authority that at a very recent meeting of conservative councillor’s it was said that the hospice should refuse to take any further donations from the Gazette. I hope that someone asks each councillor in turn if this is indeed true? If it is true then I think it is shocking and sensational news. Dark forces indeed.

Mr T

I’ve heard the same rumour.

Absolutely disgusting if true.

It’d be nice to have the question asked, although I’m pretty sure there’d be a lack of straight answer.

N0.5

I have it on very good authority that the moon is made of cheese..

Rumour gossip and tittle tattle does not do anybody credit.

You should name your source,risk prosecution or just shut up

Mr T
To be fair, the rumours about Pugh throwing his toys out of his pram in a car park recently turned out to be pretty solid. You know as well as I do that leaks aren’t going to be named, because as soon as they are they’ll be tightened up by the powers that be pretty quickly (and then we wouldn’t have any chance of finding out what… Read more »
Clarkee

Well said Mr T, Took the words right out of my mouth.

Gordon Bennett

No 5 you really are in cookoo land
You should name yourself or shut up
Mr t is correct amyone who leaks anything will get the wrath of Pugh, unless it is of course him

N0.5

well continue your rumour and fantasy posts at will then.

Cuckoo land is where all of these second guesses, supposed rumours and lies are coming from.

I suppose this kind of gossip gives some peoples lives meaning…so good luck to you

N0.5

The wrath of Pugh….I almost fell of my seat laughing.

The wrath of pugh amounts to one swear word in a car park when drunk

The rest is just fantasy

islebeseeingyou

I see an old Chief Exec of the IWC is a trustee of the Hospice.

mrs james

@no.5.
OMG so Pugh was drunk too I hope he wasnt driving that car then or was it the official IWC car he was using maybe…

hungry eyes, hungry ears

Actually, the wrath of Pugh amounts to a bit more than this, as anyone who has known him for a while will be aware. But it usually takes rather more circumspect form than overt bad language. And it can’t be recounted here without prejuducing others.

hazel wyld

I am a little confused here, do I understand that the hospice does not need our help as it can afford to turn away this sort of money?

Shobba

This would have made a good question on todays radio quiz! Shame they ran out of time.

Norman
The present Island Tories like to control and anybody that crosses them are crushed – these are not true tories but the backlash will be felt at the general election. Hidden/dark forces you do not know the half of it, strings have been pulled to stop the hospice having any finacial donations from the gazette. Pugh has a strong team behind him who will stop at nothing,… Read more »
N0.5

I’d say they were pretty typical Tories..who are just typical politicians.

Never had a good name since Walpole

hazel wyld

In his dreams!!!!!

mrs james

@Norman
Andrew Turner doesnt have a hope this time all because of Pugh but then Pugh is just a puppet anyway also even if he stands for MP in 4 yrs time who would vote for him now…
We need a clean sweep now…

Shobba

With so many Tory councillors, (not all of them happy to keep quiet) things are bound to get out. Quite right too. If anyone at the council put pressure on EMH management over the Gazette then it would be disgraceful.
No5 you know things don’t really work like that.

N0.5

Everything comes out in the wash.

But this endless speculation is turning this into a circus and is doing the course of justice no good at all

Noraa

so what do you suggest, we wait for a statement from hospice or council telling the truth. or just wait for it to go quiet and get brushed under the carpet.

Shobba
Expect to hear far more of this story in days ahead. The paranoia inside county hall will grow. Without VB and the Gazette how much would be known about any recent events? The council shut down their own message board long ago because they could no longer control it. If I remember correctly this was about the same time as the schools bombshell exploded. Proof if proof… Read more »
N0.5

must be nearly matched by the paranoia on here.

Pete
Clearly dissent and challenging view points are to be suppressed using whatever contacts and resources are at hand. I read in the CP what appears to be an interview with a Local Government Officer called Rachael, saying David has not bullied me. Strange!!!!!!!!, LGO`s are NOT allowed to speak to the press on Council related issues unless authorised by their Director or Senior Manager. If authorised, this… Read more »
WightOne

Pete,

Indeed. Even if the car park events were not council business, the LGO’s comment were in relation to a council standards allegation which has ben refered.

How much deeper can they did the hole.

Simon/Sal – I’d hold out for a seven figure sum before selling the site to a mystery buyer’s agent.

N0.5

its all the work of the Illuminati and part of a world wide conspiracy..Pugh is the next overlord

Military Road RIP

This decision looks to be seriously mistimed given Walk the Wight is just around the corner. Hopefully the majority of trustees will recognise the damage that this has done, and will continue to do, and promptly remove the instigating individuals for the benefit of the hospice.

ohnonotmore

IW council chairman’s chosen charity? Earl Mountbatten Hospice. Probably just a coincidence then.

Gruntled of Bembridge

No – to be fair (Why I should I can’t think) the boy leaders Dad is (was?) a very respected McMillan Nurse who helped an awful lot of people – so no surprise really.

Pedant

I wonder what he thinks of the behaviour of his son, ashamed I should think.

Icarus

Yet more vulnerable people suffer at the hands of this unscrupulous council…ruthlessly defending the indefensible

could it get any worse
So it’s complete and utter coincidence that in the middle of the “Pugh/Busby/Jason” saga the Hospice has decided to turn down the £30,000 it has only been too happy to take from the Gazette in the past. Mmmm….let’s put it plainly people. Those entering the final stages of their life are £30,000 less well off cos Graham Elderfield says so. Snobbery, political favouritism and down right selfishness… Read more »
N0.5

absolutely and the fuelling of posts on here is also responsible..

Thats hysteria for you

sithy

Time, for Elderfield to go! Didn’t he make a right mess at St Mary’s as well? Is was only a matter of time before the [this part of comment removed by moderator] would cock-up again! Let’s get rid of this person for good this time.

Noraa
It was reported on Vectis Radio that Graham Elderfield is on Holiday, may be back now. There is a email link in the Contact Us section of Earl Mountbatten Hospice Website. Here is a list of the Management and Trustees taken fron there Website. Chief Executive – Graham Elderfield Medical Director – Ian Cairns Acting Director of Nursing and Education – Liz Arnold Acting Director of Communications… Read more »
hungry eyes, hungry ears
Note what these people are – Trustees. The thing about Trustees is that they owe a duty of trust – a legal duty – to the beneficiaries of the Trust. If the Trust is sloshing about with cash, then maybe – hust maybe -it might be reasonable to reject donations. However, if the Trust is undergoing ongoing fundraising activity, that would indicate that it does need to… Read more »
Shobba

Looks like a ist of the usual suspects. Seaview / Bembridge / Ryde School / Tory party placemen and women. The island elite clearly know what is best for us and the hospice. Anyone have Sue Ryder’s number?

Mo

He was let go by the hospital. Quite why the hospice then snapped him up at such a high salary is puzzling. A friend who volunteers there says they have bought a new building to house new admin offices. Mr Elderffield and the trustees seem to be turning it into a mini health service!

Big Chris
This is an absolute scandal and stinks of local political skulduggery. It’s got to be independently investigated and resolved. If there is the slightest whiff of political interference / pressure put on the Hospice by anyone, then not only must heads roll, people also need to be severely punished. This matter must now go national with no stone left unturned. We get fed on a daily basis… Read more »
Victor Meldrew

The sad fact is that they probably DO find it funny on the 4th. floor. All this administration is concerned about is balancing the budget and they will do that at whatever cost – apart from any cost to themselves or their chums of course.

hungry eyes, hungry ears
A disgraceful move on the Hospice’s part. The reason they give wouldn’t convince the winner of Gullible Idiot of the Year. The Gazette (which has brought me considerable entertainment over the last several weeks despite the quality of “journalism”) is doing nothing illegal (otherwise it would no doubt have had an injunction or law suit slapped on it by now – the boy king is more than… Read more »
hungry ears, hungry eyes
I’ve been thinking about this on and off during the day, and the following thought occurred to me. The monies paid over to the Hospice by the Gazette are not money from the Gazette – they are donations made to the Hospice by members of the public. I’m not sure the Hospice is allowed to refuse them, or to pick and choose which members of the public… Read more »
Jon

they are allowed to decide where they will put collection boxes. As I understand it they are not turning down money that has already been collected, simply refusing to allow their collection boxes to be associated with the gazette. It would be interesting to see if collection boxes remain in the shops, but located at a suitable distance from the gazette stands.

suzy

A charity with an £80,000 a year Chief Executive?

How can that possibly be justified, even if he hadn’t just made a blunder worthy of county hall themselves?
And how many people realised when donating their hard earned money that the £38,000 raised by the gazette would go towards paying this clown for six months?
Sickening!

Pete
Looking on the Charity Commission website for EM Hospice you will find `governance costs` listed in their latest return as £0.04million. So where is this £80,000 salary accounted for?. Without any personal knowledge of the charity myself excepting its profile on the island and the regard people hold it. I cannot comment upon its efficiency or not, so to speak. But, there does seem to be a… Read more »
Shobba

Governance aint management! Ring and ask them. I dare you?

Pete

Must be accounted for under `Charitable Activities` then………….

Gruntled of Bembridge
The guiding rinciole in charity accounts is the SOFA which merely sets out broad headings to set out what the charity spends on “direct” charitable activities and what is spent on other things. Governance costs would include expenses incurred by the Trustees such as training, travel expenses etc. Elderfuels salary would be included in salaries. All charity accounts over £10000 have to be independently audited and any… Read more »
No.5

The hysteria on here is running wild.

Men with funny handshakes, secret meetings, people being got at

and now to cap it all idiots threatening to not donate to a HOSPICE FOR CANCER SUFFERERS because of this little game of chinese whispers, fantasy, distortions and lies.

Get a grip before we start burning crosses outside county hall

Starlite

I agree with No5 who seems to talk sense!

Noraa

No.5 and Starlight, what a world you must live in, I’m sure you will be wonderful together and have beautiful children. Where as the rest of us in the real world, have to put up with your rubbish!!

No.5

A world where idle gossip is considered only that

Noraa

Sorry to heard that you were born missing the part of the brain that can connect the dots and see what is really happening. I believe the only truth/facts we will get from Council or Hospice will arrive by the pigs of the winged varity.

Noraa

YAWN!!
I agree with Suzi. You’re not worth the energy required to type th….

Shobba
Remember Councillor Win Mc Robert? She was a Tory whose husband was suffering from cancer. If I remember correctly, she had a run in with Councillor Pugh soon after he took over. Her reward? She was removed, without prior notice at the first available full council meeting after she had been absent for just long enough to qualify. They didn’t warn her, she just got sacked because… Read more »
islebeseeingyou
She wasn’t a tory when they sacked her, she walked across the chamber over the schools issue. There’s more to this story than being sacked at the first available meeting, she wasn’t. She was sacked when the IWC did not have to call an election to replace her because the elections for the IWC were within six months. She was actually a few months over the time… Read more »
I Love My Cat

They are not the only ones who have had a good laugh at David Pugh. Unfortunately the circumstances are not funny and it seems to get worse with each passing day.

I used to believe in the Conservative Party but not any more.

hungry eyes, hungry ears

Are the Hospice accounts published? What level do their donations run at? Is this a decision by the full Board of Trustees? Was the decision minuted? Can we see the Minute? What do the other Trustees say – can we have quotes?

Victor Meldrew

Hospice accounts are published on charity commssion website

Type in the hospice charity number – 1039086 – and it will take you to the Hospice page where the accounts and other details are kept. Bear in mind they are historical – latest to year end 2009.

Also check out Hospice policy

Pedant

The Charities Commission should be able to answer any queries about the accountability of the hospice’s trustees and take any complaints.

suzy

Nobody takes any notice of you any more No 5, your little game simply isnt working and is quite frankly getting boring

No.5

what little game is that…countering hysteria.

Lets get back to reality and getting Pugh out of the council for the real problems he has created.

Not your rampant inaginations and fervent hate mongering

Pedant

Well said Suzy, I quite agree.

N0.5

The only thing boring is the ever increasing numberof victims of this witchhunt.

Mr T

The only victims here are those the Hospice helps who are now tens of thousands of pounds shorter in funding.

That was a decision made by a director on (by all accounts) 80K a year – frankly if he’s been swayed by this so called “witch hunt” he deserves to be sacked.

Jon

I dont agree with everything No. 5 says, but I do here. Suzy, some people do take notice of what he says. You did, otherwise you wouldnt have posted that personal jibe there. If you dont like what he has to say, then either ignore him or prove him wrong.

Mr T
I agree – he’s perfectly entitled to his opinion. The onus should also be on him to prove it right of course. Not really sure what his opinion is actually, other than masons are harmless and don’t adversely influence decision making on the island at all (if they don’t influence decision making on the island to help fellow members out, what do they do exactly?), political parties… Read more »
Jon

Thats a fair point, he should prove facts right really. But then, if its opinion, so as long as its stated as opinion then thats fair enough.
He shouldnt have people telling him his opinion is wrong though unless they can prove he is wrong.
And certainly no one should tell him his opinion is less valid or boring.

Mr T

Indeed.

Although I don’t think anyone can prove him wrong, in the same way as I don’t think he can prove himself right. There’s no such thing as a right or wrong opinion is there? In my opinion all of this talk about opinions is going nowhere… ;-)

Jon

Please prove your opinion right. In my opinion, an unproven opinion isnt an opinion at all, and I dont want to have to prove your opinion to be the wrong opinion.

:-D

N0.5
Mr.T,it is not me making statements that have no basis in truth, only rumour, soI have nothing to prove I have made no statement whether I think they are right or wrong…to be honest I think this is all just a distraction away from the real problems the Island is having The truth will come out in the wash and then it can be properly discussed. As… Read more »
Mr T
I’m struggling to think of an effective trade union on the Island (let alone a chess group with such weight to throw around!) – has a trade union or chess group ever resulted in £30000 of charitable funding being refused on the Island before? Or in your opinion does this sudden distancing of the Hospice from the Gazette have nothing to do with the recent pressure it’s… Read more »
N0.5
As you wellvknow I wasvsimply making examples…I could make others more relevent, like Rotarians, Buffs, local councils etc. In my opinion the circumstances require investigating properly..not subject to guess work and fantasy. a mere week ago The Gazette editor was a victim of the witch hunt, with his ALLEDGED past being dragged up on here…now,the same people are his champions and somebody else has become the victim… Read more »
paper tiger
Ummm, the Gazette is a free paper (good job too IMHO) and the hospice money is donated directly by its readers. I am personally quite offended because the Hospice is not, in fact, refusing money from Martin Potter et al-but from us-the public donors!! The Gazette is simply offering a collection box for them-do they refuse to accept the service of well meaning volunteers to help with… Read more »
Mo
This doesn’t seem to be chinese whispers to me. The hospice has acted disgracefully. To think for years my family have walked miles to raise money for the hospice to pay for an £80,000 a year boss is shocking. Discovering they pick and choose from whom they collect donations is also shocking. This may please someone at the council but it will upsent a lot of hardworking… Read more »
Mr T
I think you’ve hit the nail on the head Mo. Whether or not people choose to acknowledge how much power the funny handshakers wield and abuse on the island (and, having had family members lose their jobs for opposing them in the past, I’d have to say it’s perhaps more than some seem to think) really isn’t the most significant thing here. If Graham Elderfield really is… Read more »
N0.5

Having just looked through several different charities advertising for directors £60-£80k as a starting wage seems very common

Mr T

Local charities?

Really?

Where?

Suspect many on here will be dusting their CVs down! ;-)

N0.5

No, national chrities (after all we are still in the UK) simple Google search of job vacancies for Chrity directors will show my source.

Shobba

The island hospice is a small local charity. You cannot compare Mr Elderflower’s £80,000 salary with national rates. In any case, couldn’t they manage without him? They seem to have quite a few board members who I would guess make the big decisions.

Noraa

Facebook PAGE has been setup, called “Please Take My Money Earl Mountbatten Hospice”. Well done to whoever did it.

Jon

Perhaps the money from the collection boxes could be donated to a different charity every year. Fair enough, the hospice do good work and it seems madness to turn down that cash, but there are lots of other charities just as worthy. Perhaps a different charity every year would spread the wealth a bit and help others out too.

hazel wyld
I am struggling with this one,my Mother died in a hospice and had received fantastic care (Not on the Isle of Wight) but I support and admire the work the hospice`s do…however if the Director is truly on that salary then those who walk the Wight do so to pay his salary, in addition as has been so rightly said here, we, the public make our donation… Read more »
Jon
Well I dont know much about the hospice and why theyve made this decision. I just think if the Gazette is going to continue collecting for charity and the hospice wont accept that money, maybe a donation to various charities is better than association with one particular charity. The hospice is a worthy charity but others are also worthy. The decision has been made and unfortunately probably… Read more »
Leslie
Fully agree with you Hazel. My wife passed away nearly 2 years ago at the EMH. The clinical and pastoral staff were excellent and we are still in touch today. Every Friday, my daughter (aged 12) go shopping and buy the CP and pick up a free copy of the Gazette. Why do we pick up the Gazette? Because we use it as an excuse to put… Read more »
Jon
why not simply post them a donation every week? or put it in a jar and post them a larger amount each month or year? Just because the hospice is no longer accepting money from the gazette doesnt mean people cant donate to them. And ok, a donation to the Donkey Sanctury might not cut it, but how about if the gazette donates to a disabled charity?… Read more »
Leslie
Jon. You are missing the point. Of course we could do what you say and, indeed, I have a direct debit set up to donate to the EMH each month. What my daughter does has become habitual. She feels like she is posting a note to her mum. It’s a physical act which helps her cope. Hope you can understand that? x
Jon
Yes I can understand that, and its a fair point. But unfortunately I very much doubt anything will change. Perhaps the hospice could put up independant collection boxes in the various shops they currently have the gazette stands, but they probably wont. Im simply trying to suggest what can be done now for people to continue to support the hospice and for the gazette to donate its… Read more »
Dubois

Surely anyone who feels they wish to continue making donations to the Hospice can do so without having to pick up a copy of the Gazette. This so called ‘paper’ has certainly shot itself in the foot now and I would be very surprised if it is still on the streets at the end of the summer.

Jack The Hat

How has the Gazette shot itself in the foot exactly?

By pointing out Pugh and his croonies are useless and not fit to be in positions of power?

Because a hidden handshake somewhere has resulted in a charity effectively having £30000 of funding withdrawn?

I’d politely suggest it’s not The Gazette that’s shot itself in the foot – quite the opposite in fact…

Jack The Hat
I’d also point out that it’s the paper everyone’s talking about (whether the CP or the IWCC like it or not). You might snobbishly consider it a rag, but at the moment it’s a red rag to a bull that’s been allowed to run amok and unopposed in our beautiful Island china shop for far too long. I’ve actually caught myself checking The Gazette front page before… Read more »
Leslie
So 38K of, mainly, spontaneous donations to the EMH should not be put down to “having to pick up a copy of the Gazette”. Get real…it was a hook, and a bloody good one! It drew one’s attention to a fantastic cause. Having collected for the the Red Cross for many years, the average collection box on a bar at your average pub, collects about 30 quid… Read more »
Gruntled of Bembridge

It has been suggested to Jason that the Gazette set up a Trust Fund administered by the “great & good” that could make donations and grants to “desreving causes” Island wide. That would seem a fair way of doing things in my eyes.

Jon
that sounds like a good suggestion, but who would be administering it and would that be voluntary or would they take a salary? I honestly think a better way to do it would be to donate all the donations to a different charity each month or year. Perhaps Jason could set something up on the Gazette website so people could vote on and suggest which charities to… Read more »
Dubois

Jack the Hat – time will tell!!

Leslie
I, for one, am dropping out of this debate. Whether or not you like or dislike The Gazette, the bottom line is, that it has raised over £38k for the EMH. Yes, I agree, this is less than half of what Elderfield is being paid, but that is something, unfortunately, we will have to live with. Or do we? Perhaps there is someone out there who could… Read more »
Jon
Id do it for £15-20k per year. Cant afford to do it free, but I dont need any more than that to live on. I doubt they would accept anyone offering a freebe or a cheaper wage though. They probably wouldnt have the ‘experience’ needed to run a charity. You get what you pay for apparently. Or maybe that only works up to a point, then your… Read more »
Victor Meldrew
That is the nub of the problem – “the going rate” how often do we hear that as the justification. Bankers, council chief executives, housing association chief executives and now charity chief executives.It just snowballs with people moving and hicking up their salary. Joe Duckworth a prime example. It’s obscene and it is just plain wrong. Bear in mind the Elderfield, if he’s paid £80,000 also has… Read more »
Mr Justice
Pension – bound to be a generous NHS gold plated job isnt it? And of course the employer must pay his N.I contributions, insurances etc. I would assume Sue Ryder Hospices have bosses too, but I would seriously doubt our one little hospice needs a top gun costing this kind of cash. I hope people write to the trustees and express their disgust. I also hope the… Read more »
Jack The Hat

I wonder if The Gazette will now ask questions about the Hospice chief execs salary?

Make a great headline…

Jon
Unfortunately I suspect they now will. They wouldnt question that salary whilst they were associated with the hospice for fear of alienating the hospice and by extension the advertisers that pay for the gazette as Im sure many of those know their adverts are worthwhile due to the increase in circulation the gazette used to get from the hospice association. Now they seem to have alienated the… Read more »
Pete
The question of the Chief Executives pay is for the trustees to decide. IF the pay is in line with salaries of similar sized charities with similar incomes then OK, if not then perhaps they are not offering values for money. BUT, it is their decision. However, the question over the severing of links with the Gazette is clumsy at best and politised favouratism at the expense… Read more »
Shobba

How about

£80,000 a year Chief Exec says ‘we don’t need your money’

Yes, that would be a good one.

Braveheart

To those who were requiring information about ‘Sue Ryder Hospice’ here are some links:-

Sue Ryder Care, 114-118 Southampton Row, London WC1B 5AA
call: 0845 050 1953 email: info@suerydercare.org

http://www.suerydercare.org/pages/fundraising.html

http://www.suerydercare.org/pages/support_us_online.html

Amused

The thing is though Jon…..All this sensationalism mr Jay kay is bringing to the emerging paper would actually get a lot of advertisers thinking quite the opposite. Think how many extra editions were pressed for the Pugh Saga. I know I for one picked up a copy more eagerly.

Jon
your right in the short term. Advertisers may well look at current distribution and see a good opportunity. But I dont think thats sustainable in the long term. I think the distribution will fall off and advertisers will start to wonder why they bothered. Jason cant have a sensational headline every week, and I think he will start to feel the pressure now that the initial story… Read more »
Amused

For sure, it is almost daily sport but I’m sure the Newport strip club could get a few ads in, how about the IW Jazz festival for good measure.. heheheh. lol

Shobba

Funny how some of you think this is about the gazette when it so obviously is about the stupidity of the hospice decision maker.

Jon

Its surely about both. There must be some reason behind the decision and the gazettes articles are probably relevant to that. I would say that given the headline includes both the gazette and the hospice, comments on both are relevant.

Jack The Hat
It’s about both. I really don’t think The Gazette has done very much wrong at all though, and it certainly hasn’t run anything another local paper in a similar vein wouldn’t have published! Jon makes a valid point about how some businesses will withdraw from advertising (although smarter advertisers will no doubt take advantage of its recent surge in popularity/notoriety – I’ve actually seen the Pughnoccio pics… Read more »
N0.5

Does anybody think that the Hospices actions may be a precursor to future actions against the Gazette and its Editor and they they have been very sensible in distancing themselves at this time?

Just a thought…not even an opinion

Starlite

yes that is what I would presume too – pending libel case or something similar

Jon

its possible… There clearly is a reason, and it seems to be one the hospice cant publicise for some reason. That would fit with a possible legal action.

Jack The Hat

How would they know that, if things hadn’t been discussed internally somewhere?

It’s a good point though, although I’m not sure they’ve printed anything libellous.

Put it this way – if anyone sues, I hope they use their own money not the councils to pay their fees!

Shobba

If anyone was going to sue the gazette we would have heard about it by now. This is a red herring.

Jon

I doubt you would hear about it if it was a pending case. Until it goes to court it wont be publicised, and court dates can take ages to come up. Its not a red herring at all, its a possibility. Incidentally, why do people say red herring? Why the hell would a herring be red, and how does that translate into a misleading piece of information?

Jack The Hat

Yes but if no one knows until it goes to court Jon, how would the Chief Exec at the Hospice know???

Shobba

Oh yeah, Jay Kay and the gazette would really keep it quiet if Pughnoccio was taking legal action!

Jon
Jason may not have a choice. There may be a gagging order already in place to prevent him publishing more. I was expecting an article with Busbys statement in, but it never materialised. Pugh wouldnt have such an impediment and if he happened to mention it to someone, and it happened to get back to the hospice then, whoops, sorry, his mistake, but all he did was… Read more »
Jon
Charitys can refuse donations from organisations or people that may lead to adverse publicity. If Playboy donated, and the hospice refused, I dont think people would be questioning it so much. As for pressure from county hall, I dont think there really is that much. But some advertisers will choose to withdraw their advertising simply to save their reputations. A lot has come out about Pugh in… Read more »
Jack The Hat
I think, at present, the refusal is FAR worse publicity than anything Mr Kay may or might not have done in the past. Not basing that on anything other than what I’ve heard on the street mind – my mum and her friends (who have friends the Hospice has helped) is disgusted with them turning their nose up at charity. Our phone call today was about how… Read more »
Shobba
I would – what’s wrong with playboy? It’s a respectable magazine that happens to feature nude women. The hospice cannot point to the gazette’s content as the cause of its decision without saying what it actually took issue with. As it hasn’t they don’t actually have an excuse. The only suffering will be the people the hospice raise money for, certainly not the boss on 80 grand… Read more »
Gruntled of Bembridge
Jon – to put your mind at rest: The idiom probably originates from an article published 14 February, 1807 by journalist William Cobbett in the polemical Weekly Political Register.[7] In a critique of the English press, which had mistakenly reported Napoleon’s defeat, Cobbett recounted that he had once used a red herring to deflect hounds in pursuit of a hare, adding “It was a mere transitory effect… Read more »
Noraa
In my opinion Jon, you clearly share the same feeling towards the Gazette and its Editor as Starlight and No.5. In my opinion it is clouding your judgement on this matter. Which is unfortunate as normally you talk a little sense. But on this matter, it won’t matter how many times you knock the Gazette and its Editor, I think most people can see what is going… Read more »
Jon
as ive said many times before, I do not work for the council in any way, and I am not associated with any members of the council. Im sure people will beleive their own paranoia though so I wont bother saying it again. As for the Gazette, no i have no ill feeling towards it or its editor. Im simply pointing out that others may have ill… Read more »
Amused

We’re just looking at the broad picture Shobba. It’s all relative and contributes to the discussion.