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Island Independents announce alternative budget: ‘Care and compassion, not desks and pens’ (updated)

Leader of the Island Independent Group of councillors, Julia Baker-Smith, shares details of their alternative budget.

This follows the release of the proposed budget by the Conservative Alliance administration at the beginning of the month. Ed


Care and compassion, not desks and pens
Island Independents have developed and published a fully costed Budget proposal for 2017/18 which is legal and balanced and will be presented at full council on Wednesday.

This alternative budget, which is compassionate to the needs of the Island’s most vulnerable residents, reduces the cost of rising Council Tax bills, ensures that money is spent on care when severe cuts to Social Care are being implemented locally and nationally and slashes Conservative proposals to spend more money on running machines and refurbishments to County Hall.

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The Independent group are suggesting careful investments, a wider business working partnership, innovation and a number of well researched schemes that will increase revenue income over the next three to five years, through such means as property development and increased commercial activity.

Speaking today, Independent group Leader Cllr Baker Smith said:

“We have worked hard to develop this budget which reflects a responsible balance between financial reductions, maintaining essential services and protecting our old and vulnerable residents whilst still planning for the medium and long term future of our Island.

“The proposals concentrate on the interests and needs of residents rather that the slash and burn approach of the Con-Ukip administration, who have proposed cuts for Social Care that are dangerous, speculative and create serious risks for people in need.”

Independent proposals include:

  • Reduced cuts in adult social care protecting the most vulnerable elderly and disabled residents
  • Retaining current opening hours at Lynnbottom tip and Afton marsh
  • No charge for replacement bins
  • Protecting the youth offer
  • Saving short breaks fun-days for disabled children
  • Freezing floating bridge charges
  • Additional planning enforcement officer and development control officer

The Budget
Details for the alternative budget are set out below. Click on the full screen icon to see larger version.


Article edit
Budget papers added 15.52.

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Cactus
11, July 2012 10:17 am

Not sure that schools are obliged to distribute anything from an outside source? I can see why some schools do not want to be involved in what is essentially a political debate about education. I have not received this survey yet from my own child’s primary. It is possible that many involved in state education regard “community” schools as private ones by the back door, which will… Read more »

Better days
Reply to  Cactus
11, July 2012 10:22 am

Political? Doesn’t appear that way. Isn’t it just island parents trying to get some choice over where island children can be educated?

Crusty The Clown
Reply to  Cactus
11, July 2012 10:27 am

A “political debate about education”? How so? I haven’t seen or heard anything political about it – just parents not wanting their children educated in massive secondary schools. How is that political?

mark francis
Reply to  Crusty The Clown
12, July 2012 10:57 am

Everything is political comrade.

steve s
11, July 2012 10:37 am

Is it possible that this proposed small(er) secondary school might be in an area currently not well served in this regard? I’d vote for that!
Chris, are you able to supply details of the schools which have chosen not to cooperate? Have any of them provided reasons?

DodgyDidger
Reply to  steve s
11, July 2012 11:59 am

Surely that is like using another companies mailing list or distribution network?

Chris Welsford
11, July 2012 12:50 pm

The new school will be “mainstream” non-selective and will help to reduce the numbers currently attending the large secondary schools that have emerged from reorganisation. Sandown Academy, for example, is one of the largest schools in the UK with around 400 in a year group. The new school will be funded from the Government’s Free School programme, which is analogous to the funding stream available for Academies.… Read more »

C
11, July 2012 12:56 pm

Sadly, whilst supporting the consideration of a new school, I would agree with primary schools not forwarding this. From the linked website the survey sheet does not identify who is behind the idea, but seeks names, dates of birth, postcode etc. Looking at the website there are too many uncertainties to get any meaningful Yes responses. Whilst many parents may like the concept, starting this up sounds… Read more »

steve s
11, July 2012 1:19 pm

It comes as no surprise to me that those involved in this project (some of whom are, presumably, currently employed by Island Secondary schools) are reluctant to divulge their identities at this early stage. At the moment this is no more than a fact-finding mission. Is there a demand, on the Isle of Wight, for a 500 place secondary school? Shouldn’t all parents have the opportunity to… Read more »

Mitch
11, July 2012 1:45 pm

I must admit our school sent out the form but clearly stated that this did not mean they supported the idea, they were just giving it to us to make our own decisions. I partly agree that this could go political otherwise a press release “having a go” at the schools which have not supported would not have been issued. Maybe in the first instance, advertising instead… Read more »

steve s
Reply to  Mitch
11, July 2012 1:53 pm

@ Mitch.
What an eminently sensible stance your school took.

Vix
11, July 2012 1:51 pm

What a waste of money. There are enough secondary school places already – didn’t the great majority of students get their first choices for september? Big secondary schools have some drawbacks, but they are the most cost effective way to teach children. We don’t have a shortage of school places. We don’t need to spend money on making more school places. What if this new free school… Read more »

Steephill Jack
Reply to  Vix
11, July 2012 3:45 pm

If it was over-subscribed then that would prove the demand is there, so maybe start another one ?

Vix
11, July 2012 4:16 pm

So we’d pay for eight high schools not six? Whilst there was still vacancies available at other schools? I understand free schools being set up in areas where there are not enough spaces for pupils or where there is a religious or cultural need. But to ask the government to fund a new school in an area already with surplus spaces, just because you don’t like Big… Read more »

Ned
Reply to  Vix
11, July 2012 5:44 pm

Vix, as a parent of a child who is about to go to secondary school in September, I am extremely concerned at what parents whose children are already attending secondary schools on the Island have told me about behaviour within the schools and the mixed standards of teaching. You don’t need to be a genius, if you look at recent exam results for the Island, to realise… Read more »

Vix
Reply to  Ned
11, July 2012 6:22 pm

Ned, it is true that this academic year has seen massive changes in 11+ education and reports of declining behaviour and standards across the board. This does not necessarily correlate with the larger sizes of the school, but that staff and management were inadequately prepared and trained for the new schools. Middle school teachers were placed in environments which they hadn’t taught in for decades. Senior management… Read more »

steve s
Reply to  Vix
11, July 2012 6:25 pm

Are you teaching in an Island Secondary school at the moment, Vix?

Vix
Reply to  steve s
11, July 2012 6:28 pm

No Steve, am not. Too busy with my own smaller children!

steve s
11, July 2012 5:20 pm

Maybe there is a ‘cultural need’, Vix. Maybe some folks have a cultural antipathy towards a school with 2100 pupils.
Seriously, though. Why have six? Why not just one great big one with 8000 pupils?
The cash savings would be enormous, wouldn’t they?

Vix
Reply to  steve s
11, July 2012 5:35 pm

I thought we were in a period of financial tightening. Free schools *are* political. I’d rather the country spent its money on better facilities and more well trained staff in the schools we already have, than hundreds of thousands thrown at a handful of parents to set up their own hobby horse. We shouldn’t be spending vast amounts money on a lovely school which is limited at… Read more »

steve s
11, July 2012 5:41 pm

As a matter of interest, Vix, would you mind telling me where you live?

Vix
11, July 2012 5:50 pm

On the isle of wight, yes. And have three children, yes. If you have a specific problem with a specific school ie sandown? Then you need to take that up with the authorities or academy itself. Not ask for government money to set up another school with a limited capacity. That doesn’t improve education for the island as a whole.

Cath
Reply to  Vix
11, July 2012 6:39 pm

Sorry VIX, but I really don’t believe that you have three children! I actually don’t think you have any. I don’t think ANY parent ANYWHERE would rather their child went to a huge school with poor educational standards and an intake of around 400 per year rather than the chance of going to a better, smaller, local school. The only reason you’ve given for your view so… Read more »

Vix
Reply to  Cath
11, July 2012 6:46 pm

Cath, I am a parent. And it is not a choice between evil big school and good small school. It is a political choice, to spend more money on the few rather than the many. As a parent, you want the best for your children. But as an islander you should want the best for everyone. Free Schools and greater choice in education leads to divisions. Sure,… Read more »

No.5
Reply to  Vix
12, July 2012 1:58 am

If its the Vix I know she most definately is a parent of three…as am I. School size is not an issue to me because I went to a modern secondary comprehensive with 4000 others so expereinced first hand that class size, not school size made the difference

steve s
11, July 2012 5:53 pm

Sorry, Vix. I understood the Isle of Wight part. North, East or Central. ;-)

Vix
Reply to  steve s
11, July 2012 5:56 pm

Central west I guess! But if you were hoping to canvass for positive opinion from all parents on the island, for a cause you few as only affecting the east of the island then I think you are starting from exactly the sort of limited and exclusive standpoint which I think all Free Schools suffer from.

steve s
11, July 2012 6:01 pm

I’m not canvassing but I’m interested in the discussion. We could certainly do with a secondary school in the South so our eleven year olds don’t need to spend two hours on the bus every day. I guess that’s the same case Ned was making for the West. :-s

Vix
Reply to  steve s
11, July 2012 6:13 pm

But with small schools comes increased expense, limited curriculum and reduced facilities. Travelling for an hour on a bus in a morning to work/school isn’t uncommon across the country. Sure, having smaller more local schools is a lovely idea, but it’s a luxury for some, and inadequate for others. There really isn’t enough of a need.

steve s
Reply to  Vix
11, July 2012 6:21 pm

The question of need is exactly what this survey was hoping to establish. We certainly agree about it being a lovely idea.

Vix
Reply to  steve s
11, July 2012 6:27 pm

It can be lovely for some children, but inadequate for others. Small schools cannot have the dance, drama, PE, science, SEN facilities that larger schools have. Small schools can be claustrophobic. Yes, some students may save some time travelling each day. Bt they would have less subjects to choose from and less choice of friends. Why do you think 16year olds travel over an hour to Brockenhurst… Read more »

steve s
Reply to  Vix
11, July 2012 6:34 pm

It’s a nice choice to have, isn’t it?
In fact, choice, per se, is a really good thing. :-)

Steephill Jack
Reply to  Vix
11, July 2012 6:32 pm

David Pugh has always said that the school re-organisation was about raising standards and not about reducing costs. So we wait to see the results. There will be a difficult transition period, of course, but after that….? Also, offering choice to parents is government policy, which is why they will fund a free school if demand for one is shown. David Pugh does not agree with parental… Read more »

Vix
Reply to  Steephill Jack
11, July 2012 6:37 pm

Saving money and ploughing it back into higher pupil:staff ratios, better facilities etc is what should be happening with reorganisation, not reducing costs per se. And I don’t think parents should be given a free choice with what is essentially public money. It should be used for the good of everyone. Selling parents the idea that choice in education leads to higher standards is rubbish. It leads… Read more »

Cath
Reply to  Vix
11, July 2012 6:48 pm

“There really isn’t enough of a need.” Excuse me, but who are you to say whether there is a need or not? Are you an expert on education? From your other replies I can say with certainty that you’re not. Let me turn your response on it’s head. Is there a ‘need’ for a huge school – one of the biggest in the country apparently – on… Read more »

Vix
Reply to  Cath
11, July 2012 6:52 pm

A need for a new school would be, for example, in parts of north london where there are not enough places for children to go to school. Or where the only choices are church/religious schools and those without faith are excluded. Or vice versa. Those are areas with needs. Luckily for us in the island, there are places for all our children to go to school. And… Read more »

steve s
Reply to  Vix
11, July 2012 7:12 pm

In matters of educational choice, Vix, need and desire are pretty much the same thing.
Otherwise it’s left to local politicians to choose on our behalf… and look where that’s got us. :-s

steve s
11, July 2012 7:15 pm

Your argument is all over the place, btw. You believe in choice in matters of faith and culture. Why? Surely that’s just a desire too, isn’t it?

Vix
Reply to  steve s
11, July 2012 7:21 pm

It’s a necessity for some people to not have their children instructed in religious mumbo, yes. Faith and culture are more important than choosing between a school of 2000 or 500. Either way, an education is provided for your child. If you want a smaller school, you can pay for it yourself. It is a luxury, not an essential. At the moment, we are told that the… Read more »

steve s
Reply to  Vix
11, July 2012 7:24 pm

Vix. I AM paying for it myself. Just as you are. I just want something different from you. What makes your need/desire more worthy of fulfilment than mine?

Vix
Reply to  steve s
11, July 2012 7:31 pm

It wouldn’t be just your money to spend, it’s everyone’s. If you want to spend your money on a smaller school, there are already a couple of them on the island where you could buy that education. The state cannot provide a choice for everyone. It can provide an education which is cost effective and which is available to all. A Free School does neither.

Steephill Jack
Reply to  Vix
11, July 2012 9:33 pm

One size fits all = XL.

steve s
Reply to  Vix
11, July 2012 9:40 pm

But, Vix, ‘the state’ IS prepared to provide a choice for me. That’s why we’re having this discussion. It’s you that doesn’t like the idea.

Bluey
Reply to  steve s
11, July 2012 8:51 pm

Ah Steve, so you are a campaigner for free schools, despite the fact that they might make some excellent existing school less viable and resourced because of falling admission numbers

steve s
Reply to  Bluey
11, July 2012 9:31 pm

I like the idea of Human Scale Education, Bluey. If that makes me a campaigner then, yes, I suppose I am. I don’t recall commenting on making existing excellent schools less viable, though. I’d be interested to know which ones you’re talking about.

Mike
Reply to  Vix
12, July 2012 7:25 am

Mumbo Jumbo?is that a new subject?

mark francis
Reply to  Mike
12, July 2012 10:54 am

No, its called Religious Instruction.
It originates in the Middle Ages – or the other way round.

Vix
11, July 2012 7:17 pm

Need is a very real, tangible and practical thing. Desire is a belief that having the thing you want would personally improve your life. They are not the same. I don’t think the academies are accountable to local politicians anymore? I don’t think they are accountable to anybody… A free market in education results in less people taking responsibility for what goes on. Those running a free… Read more »

DP
Reply to  Vix
11, July 2012 7:37 pm

We need to look past the political issues and think about what’s really important here. As has been said earlier, we have some of the worst exam results in the country. Larger schools and larger class sizes will not solve this problem – it will just save us a few pennies. I know that there is bullying, drug problems, widespread smoking amongst 11year olds because they are… Read more »

DP
Reply to  DP
11, July 2012 7:39 pm

Sorry, pressed the return button too early! -just to finish, I’d like to know how many more pupils are being suspended now, how many have been arrested whilst at school and how many injuries there are at the new high schools. Bet these levels have all increased because the schools are just to big to manage now.

Ned
11, July 2012 10:05 pm

In response to DPs last post, I have asked some friends who are involved in education on the Island, they believe the figures for permanent exclusions from the secondary schools are over thirty and nearer to 40 pupils this year. Fixed term exclusions are well over a thousand.If I am correct, that’s a big increase from last year. I dont think that information is a sign that… Read more »

Vix
Reply to  Ned
11, July 2012 10:14 pm

but neither is it proof that large schools will always fail. We are only 10 months into reorganisation. We have to make a committment to the current system and let it be embedded and settled before we throw it all away. Again.

Vix
11, July 2012 10:12 pm

Steve, the state won’t provide a free school in the vein you outline (unique selling point being that it is small) because there is no necessity for it, and there is no overarching ethos that sets it apart, save for being a small school. Most Free Schools have a distinctive ethos (religious, cultural) or fill in a gap that the state have failed to provide (ie where… Read more »

Cefa
Reply to  Vix
11, July 2012 11:23 pm

Vix, the last paragraph of your last post actually made some sense. Sounds like you should start a survey to assess the need. You already have your mission statment. Otherwise lets just forget about schools and the evolution of education, give the kids pick axes and send em back down the mines that will save a buck in these hard times. You don’t need to tell any… Read more »

Vix
Reply to  Cefa
11, July 2012 11:39 pm

But it wouldn’t give your children anything. It’s not a real choice. Do you really believe your children would be one of the 500? You cannot support a free school on selfish reasons for your own family, you have to support it on principle. And supporting an expensive school where there are already surplus places is not a good principle. There are places and times for free… Read more »

No.5
Reply to  Vix
12, July 2012 1:55 am

I mostly agree with Vix….Education should be meet a minimum standard for all and encourage excellence in all. Small free schools establish a two tier education system which will benefit the rich or the religious. But …school size is not really an issue..its class size that is an issue. I don’t think a school with 10,000 kids would be any less or more efficient than one with… Read more »

No.5
Reply to  Vix
12, July 2012 2:00 am

oh and if you want to encourage bullying put kids in small schools in the same town as big schools and see what happens…when it is perceived that the kids at the small school are ‘special’ their lives really will be hell

cefa
Reply to  Vix
12, July 2012 1:18 pm

You’re right my children may not be included in the 500, equally they might! Hopefully there may be more free schools on the Island by the time my children are ready to enter secondary education and then not only a few would benefit. I do agree that there should be access to quality education to all children but we all know this isn’t currently a reality. With… Read more »

steve s
Reply to  cefa
12, July 2012 1:26 pm

You look pretty articulate to me, Cefa.

DP
12, July 2012 7:34 am

I agree with some of your points, particularly With regards to smaller class sizes. Class sizes have grown on the island meaning that children are treated more as groups or numbers rather than individuals. Vix, just to reply to your point, I was vice chair of the governing body for several years recently and was forced to give this up after putting up with years of spin… Read more »

Vix
Reply to  DP
12, July 2012 7:42 am

You can fight for an independent/ free school, but that’s not guaranteed to admit entry to your child, and it will not help the other 9000 children on the island. It’s a waste of energy which could be better directed.

James P
Reply to  Vix
13, July 2012 11:29 am

So where would you direct it, Vix? I agree that it’s not going to benefit a lot of children directly, but it will be hard to ignore if it gets good results. The free schools movement could and should (IMO) make a long-term difference to secondary education in the UK which, largely thanks to educationalists and town hall bureaucracy, has rather lost its way in recent years.… Read more »

DP
12, July 2012 7:36 am

To continue no 5, I think you’re over reacting about. Children being bullied for going to a different school. The kids in the new school won,t be special, they will just have chosen a different option and I would love this to be available on the iow

No.5
Reply to  DP
12, July 2012 9:10 am

I did not say they would be special….I said they would be perceived as special and, as in my day, where we battered the grammar up the road, they would become targets.

steve s
Reply to  No.5
12, July 2012 9:21 am

You battered people because they were different, Kev? Is that really an announcement you want to make here?

No.5
Reply to  steve s
12, July 2012 9:27 am

Royal ‘we’ as a typical secondary modern school in the late 70’s…to us our school uniform was a badge of honour. I’m a great beleiver in the benefit of uniforms, but it does also have its negative ‘pack’ element I was involved in loads of fights as a kid, they taught me very many valuable lessons, especially the futility of violence. There were loads of things I… Read more »

steve s
Reply to  No.5
12, July 2012 9:32 am

I had the odd altercation, Kev. They weren’t of the Lord Snooty and his pals vs The Gasworks Gang variety though. ;-)

No.5
Reply to  No.5
12, July 2012 10:15 am

some of mine were :)

Chris Welsford
12, July 2012 8:23 am

I agree with much of what Vix and No.5 say. If there was a realistic choice I would not be doing this, and that goes for most if not all of the people involved, many of whom are working in the current secondary tier at fairly senior levels. They know first hand what the issues are and how they can be tackled but they are not being… Read more »

playingthenumbers
12, July 2012 10:42 am

I find the idea of a utilitarian, basics only education an anathema. I fails to inspire & will end up costing more in the long run. A quick reflection on how small, focused institutions have revolutionised performance, not just in education but across all aspects of life bears out that the formula works. Whether it is the impact of lottery funding on elite athletes, academies in soccer… Read more »

steve s
Reply to  playingthenumbers
12, July 2012 11:56 am

@Playing
I wonder if you’d be good enough to contact me. 855595. Thanks.

Steephill Jack
13, July 2012 7:22 am

Free schools in the news today:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-18819391

Intrerested
13, July 2012 8:21 pm

Initially,I was against the idea of a Free school.However,having heard of the difficulties former Middle School teachers have had in Secondary schools[Teaching out of subject expertise,no opportunity for Investigative work,given all low sets with major discipline issues because no-one else wants to teach them etc.]I think that it would be an opportunity to preserve the ethos of the Middle Schools and combine it with the ethos of… Read more »

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