don't bomb syria

Island teenager organises peaceful protest against Syrian airstrikes

Seventeen year old Sebastian (Basti) Robert is hoping to bring Islanders together on Saturday (12th) afternoon for a peaceful protest against the Government’s decision to carry out air strikes in Syria.

He believes Andrew Turner’s decision not to vote on the issue left the Island unrepresented in Parliament. A Facebook event page has been set up and is doing the rounds on social media, inviting Islanders to join Basti and others outside County Hall, Newport from noon on Saturday.

He says,

This is a call for EVERYONE on the Island who is against the recent decision to bomb Syria. Our MP, Andrew Turner, made the decision NOT TO VOTE at all, leaving the Island unrepresented in parliament.

Bombing Syria has been portrayed in the media as just an ‘expansion’ or entering the ‘limelight’ this is a disgrace, showing such disregard for human life is itself inhumane.

Although ISIS needs to be eradicated, bombing a whole country is not the answer, as we saw in 2003 when Tony Blair’s government brought us to war in Iraq, where ISIS emerged and hundreds of thousands of civilians were killed.

Andrew Turner, who was unable to carry out his job, needs to be woken up. David Cameron, who continues to push his own ideologies into parliament, needs to hear our voice. Most importantly, we as an Island need to stop being idle and stand up for our beliefs!

For updates, visit the event page on Facebook.

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Richard
23, July 2015 1:55 pm

Typical government. promise you the earth in the run up to an election and as soon as they get in they. They u-turn on it

Wighton
23, July 2015 3:13 pm

Maybe the Tories in West Wight will now question whether it really was a good idea to vote in the Tories, and maybe instead of having something else and a wind turbine…

The Sciolist
23, July 2015 3:36 pm

I expect most will welcome this exciting new low cost energy, I can’t see a downside. Wind is expensive and rarely produces, solar is expensive and ugly.

Rod Manley
Reply to  The Sciolist
23, July 2015 5:12 pm

It isn’t low cost. It would even be cheaper to dig coal out of the ground and make coal gas. Easy technology, tried and tested.Fracking is bonkers.

lisaC
Reply to  The Sciolist
24, July 2015 3:30 pm

It certainly isn’t low cost. it is hugely expensive to produce, and government have admitted it will have no effect on UK energy prices. It is nothing more than a ponzi scheme, for instance Chesapeake have made a loss 22 out of the last 24 years. In the UK Cuadrilla ran at a loss although the bosses were of course still paid millions. Very few will benefit… Read more »

lisaC
Reply to  The Sciolist
24, July 2015 3:53 pm

I’d like to invite anyone with rightful concerns about fracking to join the facebook community page Frack Free Isle of Wight. With the government determined to frack despite the cost to the environment, human health and democracy, we need to do everything we can to educate ourselves and others. it is not only the anti-fracking community that is saying this. The government’s own Environmental Audit Committee concluded… Read more »

Rowan
Reply to  lisaC
24, July 2015 8:25 pm

Agreed. Amd they’re ignoring the cost to the climate.

ewald
Reply to  The Sciolist
25, July 2015 10:44 am

Investors could lose $4.2tn due to impact of climate change…

why not investing in a solar car producing more electric power than it uses?

Cicero
23, July 2015 4:10 pm

Politicians lie! Before elections they tell more lies than usual!

This is yet another example of the lies Tories told to get reelected- more u-turns emerge every week.

Cicero
23, July 2015 4:14 pm

Let’s see if they frack Undercliffe Drive SSSI! :-))

Hermit
23, July 2015 6:20 pm

They wouldn’t be able to if Thwart didn’t prevent the turbines going up, cheers Thwart you short sighted ******

Ali Hayden.
23, July 2015 6:41 pm

Lies, lies + more lies to get elected. The Island should follow Lancashire County Councils example at the end of June + say NO. With funding to local councils being cut to the bone, the government is offering cash incentives to those areas who agree to fracking. I have sent a link to OTW that shows graphically the effects that fracking has to residents , land +… Read more »

Geoff Lumley
23, July 2015 6:42 pm

I bet some of my colleague IW Councillors who didn’t vote for my ‘Anti-fracking on the IW’ Motion to Full Council last April are now kicking themselves, particularly those from AONB and SSSI areas (marked with *): Against (8)- Councillors Paul Bertie, Ray Bloomfield, David Eccles, Richard Hollis, John Howe*, Stuart Hutchinson*, Daryll Pitcher, Ivor Warlow Abstentions (12)- Councillors Jonathan Bacon*, Julia Baker-Smith*, Reg Barry, Rodney Downer*,… Read more »

Wighton
Reply to  Geoff Lumley
23, July 2015 7:10 pm

Yes, Geoff, I am sorry that they did not have the smarts about how politics works that you have. You presented a preventive measure….

Ali Hayden.
Reply to  Geoff Lumley
23, July 2015 9:48 pm

To be fair Geoff, the Councillors who either voted against or abstained at April 8th Full Council didn’t vote that way about fracking on the Island. They voted that way because of the wording of motion that you put forward;The motion put forward by Labour councillor, Geoff Lumley, read, Council agrees to declare the whole of the Isle of Wight to be a Fracking Free area. Whilst… Read more »

Wighton
Reply to  Ali Hayden.
23, July 2015 9:53 pm

And yet Lancashire’s Council passed very similar wording. Maybe the officers et al advised incorrectly; it would not be the first time.

Vix Lowthion
Reply to  Ali Hayden.
23, July 2015 10:09 pm

I was at the meeting too. Councillors were given legal advice by the Council Leader in the chamber. I think that was an overlapping of roles which led to the confusion and abstentions.

Geoff Lumley
Reply to  Ali Hayden.
24, July 2015 9:32 am

Ali. Let that be your consultation then when an application is made in the Arreton valley.

Ali Hayden.
Reply to  Geoff Lumley
24, July 2015 10:11 am

Geoff, that is why our planning laws need changing! The whole planning process is geared in complete favour of all developers. With Appeals available, free of charge to them, many take up the offer. Please see the my post below that the Lancashire decision is also, now going to appeal. Every Council in the country should be working together to come up with a water-tight argument against… Read more »

Wighton
Reply to  Ali Hayden.
24, July 2015 10:26 am

Ali, I’m not arguing with you FYI, as you are right about the unfairness of the law. But the Council had a choice to stand up and say “no” then (like Lancashire) or not. Of course industry was going to appeal! They would appeal the vote from months ago, or appeal each and every individual planning application, costing councils lots of money either way. All of that… Read more »

Ali Hayden.
23, July 2015 10:30 pm

…..or maybe they realised the could not pre-determine a valid future planning application should it be put forward? This news 7 hours ago; The shale gas firm Cuadrilla is to appeal against the decision by Lancashire County Council to refuse permission to drill and frack at two sites in the county. The company wants to extract shale gas at Little Plumpton and Roseacre Wood on the Fylde… Read more »

Tanja Rebel
23, July 2015 11:24 pm

Quadrilla’s decision to appeal is bad news for Lancashire and potentially for this country as a whole. Sadly, our Government is hell-bent on pushing fracking through, whilst at the same time reducing subsidies for solar energy schemes. This tells you which way the wind is blowing… However, lets hope Lancashire Council stands firm! After all, they have shown real courage so far. And lets hope the Isle… Read more »

Steve Goodman
24, July 2015 12:04 am

More on the fracker’s latest, (from FOE) with a petition link to follow. Lancashire Council were under huge pressure from Cuadrilla to accept fracking, but they listened to the people and turned Cuadrilla down. It was a triumph for people power and democracy over corporate interests, and a victory for people everywhere fighting fracking and climate change. But Cuadrilla doesn’t like what Lancashire Council said – now… Read more »

Steve Goodman
Reply to  Steve Goodman
24, July 2015 12:08 am

Link to petition:

Please add your name, and ask David Cameron to stop this historic victory against fracking in Lancashire being overturned.

petition

vectainsulaman
24, July 2015 5:01 pm

Every one wants to keep the lights on and our houses warm.How do the NIMBYS propose to do it. NO to Navitus bay marine wind turbines,no to onshore wind, no to fracking.do you really want to go back to dark ages. Perhaps the wealthy English migrants would like to see the Nucler power station once proposed for Newtown back on the plans see what that does to… Read more »

Cicero
Reply to  vectainsulaman
24, July 2015 5:23 pm

“Imagine high paid high skilled jobs available to island people.”?

And what would they be after the fracking sites have been built and left to operate mainly automatically? Would they compensate for the increase in Island property insurance rates due to higher risk of subsidence in t he already unstable Island geology, removing contamination of water resources and land etc?

Steve Goodman
Reply to  vectainsulaman
24, July 2015 6:11 pm

Imagination is the only place where that is going to happen, because the frackers use their own skilled people for as long as they are needed at each drill site before moving them on to the next. A few locals might just get some temporary security and driving work, because there has to be a lot of heavy lorry movements (however un/suitable the rural roads may be… Read more »

LisaC
Reply to  vectainsulaman
24, July 2015 6:33 pm

How many highly skilled highly paid jobs do you imagine for Island people? According to Cuadrilla’s Lancashire proposals, they would employ a total of 11 people for those sites. It is not a labour intensive process, most of the manual work being done very quickly during the exploratory phase. We do not have vast expanses of bare land requiring new roads and pipelines as in the US.… Read more »

jackie
Reply to  LisaC
24, July 2015 7:57 pm

please don’t use vestas as a good example. They sacked 600 people, still another 400 jobs to go before they even come close to making up that loss

LisaC
Reply to  jackie
24, July 2015 9:48 pm

I hear that Jackie, but all the more reason for our government to fully commit to renewables now and build for the future. Offshore wind receives a lot less opposition than onshore in the UK, so I would like to think Vestas would make up those jobs and more. We can all help a little by switching energy suppliers to those who only produce or source 100%… Read more »

Ali Hayden.
24, July 2015 6:55 pm

Let us not forget the reason why Lancashire Council actually objected to fracking in the first place, we need to go back to 2011. In April, a tremor measuring 2.3 on the Richter scale was felt in the Lancashire seaside resort, followed by an event in May that measured 1.5 on the scale. “It is highly probable that the hydraulic fracturing of Cuadrilla’s Preese Hall-1 well did… Read more »

Wighton
Reply to  Ali Hayden.
24, July 2015 7:03 pm

Exactly! There are many risks, from explosions of the methane to polluted water supply to subsidence…. fracking has consequences. It is not a “renewable” energy but yet another consumable that an energy company wants to make money from. As long as we are in the market for an insatiable appetite for consumables that need to be bought recurrently, the energy companies will do anything to sell you… Read more »

Rowan
24, July 2015 8:36 pm

Our government, chosen by only 25% of voters, want fossil fuels and don’t like renewables. And we probably won’t get a chance to vote for a better-informed, more decent government for another five years. (I’m still hoping for lots of resignations and bye-elections until they lose their tiny majority, but we can’t count on it.) So we will probably be forced to accept fracking. But that doesn’t… Read more »

Rowan
24, July 2015 8:51 pm

They SAY they want to tackle climate change and then they do the opposite!

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/combatting-climate-change-a-vital-safety-net-for-families-and-businesses

Oh, and don’t you just luuuurve the way they categorise us all as belonging to only two possible groups: families or businesses. People can’t just be people. If we don’t live in families and work for businesses then we don’t actually exist as far as our government’s concerned!

Rowan
24, July 2015 8:54 pm

One thing we can still do to stand up for wildlife sites is get in our views to the European Union about their threat to remove or weaken the Birds Directive and Habitats Directive. The consultation closes this weekend. Fracking and the Habitats Directive don’t go together.

http://www.wildlifetrusts.org/news/2015/07/24/don’t-undermine-laws-protect-nature-say-nearly-half-million-europeans

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