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Catch up: Isle of Wight councillors debate Forest Road traffic lights, mental health services and declaring a climate emergency

Isle of Wight councillors last night (Wednesday from 5pm) met at County Hall for their July full council meeting.

Included on the agenda were two petitions and several motions from councillors, including a call for the Isle of Wight council to declare a climate emergency and a review of the current IW Mental Health transformation blueprint.

Follow our reporting of the meeting below and see the papers at the bottom for reference.

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fedupbritain
14, July 2020 7:09 pm

This is the bloke who said that ‘gays are the new Jews.’ Nice fella.

Mark L Francis
14, July 2020 7:34 pm

There are about 0.6% Trans in the UK which is about the same as the number of Jews.(according to Gov.uk) So why do Bob & the Terfs have a problem with them? Why is this any better than anti-Semitism? There has never been an incident of any one of them attacking women in a public toilet. Besides which, how would anyone tell without some weird body search.… Read more »

wellsm
Reply to  Mark L Francis
14, July 2020 7:40 pm

Probably because 0.6% of the population seems to occupy 90.6% of news coverage and articles.

Mark L Francis
Reply to  wellsm
15, July 2020 10:18 am

I think you are right, which loses all perspective when we think there are mobs coming for us in our beds (or outside the cubicles).

Mark L Francis
Reply to  Mark L Francis
14, July 2020 7:55 pm

National membership of the Conservative Party was 160,000 in the 2019. Let’s ban them from using public toilets. I seem to recall at least one of their councillors in the IOW alone was convicted of an offence in a public toilet a couple of years back. Am I right or am I right?

briev
Reply to  Mark L Francis
15, July 2020 7:15 am

Protecting the legal rights of women and girls to safe spaces such as public toilets,changing rooms and refuges is not anti-trans. Trans men and women rightly have equality in law and the UK Gender Recognition Act (2004) is one of the most liberal in the world, requiring neither surgery nor drugs for legal sex change. The proposed changes to the Gender Recognition Act would have allowed any… Read more »

laurashales
14, July 2020 8:17 pm

Karl Love taking offence to something where no offence was intended? Surely not. No one listened to his ridiculous ideas about Wight Trash when he tried to single handily destroy an Isle of Wight business. No one listened then and no one is listening now.

Steve Goodman
14, July 2020 8:19 pm

Didn’t MP Bob Seely’s admitted ‘Depending on what size of sausage they ate on that day’ comment about pandemic rule-breaking people also lead to complaints?

fedupbritain
14, July 2020 9:53 pm

Cue Seely bragging on about his ‘involvement’ (Spoiler Alert it was zero) in the UK Govt’s decision to exclude Huawei from 5G to detract from this. On the subject of Chinese ownership of IT he has expressed deep concern about the ownership of a dating site in case it exposes “sexual information relating to the 3.1 million people who date on it daily” – a very odd… Read more »

truth
14, July 2020 10:36 pm

I’m not normally a fan of Karl Love, but he’s right on this occasion. Bob Seely’s remark was clearly flippant, mocking and hurtful. It’s on the same level as Boris Johnson’s remarks. This behaviour is very disrespectful. I don’t think you could take a remark like this out of context, he was wrong to accuse of ‘grandstanding’.

Colin
15, July 2020 10:32 am

The easy answer for public toilets would be to build single occupancy loos which are becoming more common these days. Are there not some already at Cowes? The other point which has been made is suggesting a trans population of about 0.6% of the population. This would suggest approx 900 out of a population of 150,000 on the Island. Is this correct? How are these figures arrived… Read more »

Tamara
Reply to  Colin
15, July 2020 12:20 pm

Single occupancy loos are an excellent solution to this problem, Colin. They also help solve the problem of social distancing in a pandemic. Shanklin has award-winning toilets of this kind, both in the town centre and in the Old Village. No new-build is necessary – old toilet blocks were converted to house rows of these.

Chiverton Paul
15, July 2020 12:03 pm

Who needs Trump when we have Mr Seeley. Sausage gate – transgender toilets and his comments about gays being the new Jews.
His PR team must be on overtime trying to mitigate his blunders.. He is a liability and an embarrassment to the island.

fedupbritain
Reply to  Chiverton Paul
15, July 2020 5:04 pm

You would have to wonder what a Holocaust survivor might think of his comments. There is no doubt that the LGBT community have a very rough time in parts of the Middle East and Africa, but to the sheer horrific scale of the Nazis? I think not. To think the Labour party has a problem with Antisemitism – that’s nothing compared to Seely. David Irving went to… Read more »

newman
Reply to  fedupbritain
15, July 2020 5:24 pm

Blimey, I don’t think Seely has ever denied the Holocaust has he? Hardly in the same league as Irving. Does enjoy a sausage though.

fedupbritain
Reply to  newman
15, July 2020 6:22 pm

I think Irving went down for underestimating the scale of the Holocaust and denied its central planning. Seely has compared the current day treatment of gays (specifically) with the murder of over 6 million Jews. Either there are mass extermination camps for gays or the whole scale of the Holocaust was vastly overplayed and the death camps never existed according to Seely’s logic.

newman
Reply to  fedupbritain
15, July 2020 8:09 pm

Irving was tried for and convicted of Holocaust denial. HalfSausageSeely is not in his league in that regard and I reckon we’d do better to focus on his many other failings rather than liken him to a full-on hardcore Holocaust denier.

fedupbritain
Reply to  newman
15, July 2020 9:18 pm

I quite disagree Newman. Seely’s ‘gays are the new Jews’ comment is as anti-semitic as they come. Akin to Ken Livingstone’s remarks and Irving’s denial.

mariner58
15, July 2020 6:35 pm

The, admittedly few, trans people I’ve met are, generally, nice people and as fully equipped with intelligence, both good humour and a sense of humour, a sense of perspective and the ability to distinguish between genuine insults/prejudice and the occasional, perhaps ill judged, throw away comments as most people. Do they really need the likes of Karl Love leaping to defend them as witless, humourless, permanent victims,… Read more »

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