Average speed camera sign at side of road

Mobile average speed cameras will ‘frighten people into obeying the law’ says Cllr Churchman

A motion calling for a business case to be developed for the Isle of Wight Council to help tackle speeding has been approved.

To try and sort out what it called the ‘horrendous’ speeding issue on the Island, the former Conservative Isle of Wight Council administration had previously put £300,000 aside in this year’s budget, to buy two sets of average speed cameras.

However the Conservatives lost control of County Hall at May’s election, so party leader Cllr Steve Hastings (Con) urged the authority’s new cabinet members, at last night’s (Wednesday) full council meeting (catch up here), to continue with the purchase of the cameras.

Amended motion
Instead, they voted to amend the  motion.

The Alliance Group agreed to continue to develop a business case to investigate the costs and effectiveness of the cameras.

Cllr Hastings said there was only so much the police and static speed cameras could do, particularly along the Military Road.

Dedicated road policing unit needed
Cllr Ian Dore (Alliance), said he was not convinced the mobile cameras would be a solution and it was only through cuts that the Island did not have a dedicated police road traffic unit.

Cllr Dore said he applauded the move to investigate cameras, saying speeding was clearly an Island-wide problem and more needed to be done to address it — starting with speedwatch campaigns, but also speaking to Hampshire Constabulary, to see what could be done to bring back the dedicated road policing unit.

Churchman: ‘Frightening people into obeying the law’
Cllr Vanessa Churchman (Con) said it was alright if speed limit signs were in place, but if you could not enforce that, it would be a waste of time.

She said the cameras would be effective as a traffic deterrent, ‘frightening people into obeying the law’.

Jones-Evans: Speeding would be seen in same light as drink driving
Cabinet member for business development and regeneration, Cllr Julie Jones-Evans (Alliance), who has previously been campaigning for 20mph zones to be installed in all towns and villages on the Island, said she hoped speeding would, in a few years, be seen in the same light as drink driving, as completely unacceptable behaviour.

As part of the approved motion – all in favour apart from Cllr Adams (Alliance) (against) and Cllr Pitcher (Vectis) (abstained) – the neighbourhoods and regeneration policy and scrutiny committee will advise on the effectiveness of the cameras.

This article is from the BBC’s LDRS (Local Democracy Reporter Service) scheme, which News OnTheWight is part of. Read here to find about more about how that scheme works on the Island. Some alterations and additions may have been made by News OnTheWight. Ed

Image: x1brett under CC BY 2.0

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Cynic
21, May 2012 6:53 pm

Another example of the fine art of the bureaucratic two-step to aid a “Preferred Bidder”.

Are we really to believe that the Preferred Bidder would go away from this juicy contract if there was a delay?

This is just another version of the old sales ploy “If you don’t buy it now, the price will go up!” used by doorstep salesmen the world over!

Chris Wilmott
21, May 2012 7:32 pm

Why don’t these people speak English? Can it be because they don’t want to be understood? There was once a Plain English movement, but clearly it has yet to affect the Council’s petty bureaucrats.

James P
Reply to  Chris Wilmott
22, May 2012 8:56 am

Agree entirely. You just know that when they use words like ‘disapplication’ that there’s a fudge involved. Why not just say it’s cancelled?

Ryde a Wight Swan
Reply to  Chris Wilmott
22, May 2012 9:13 am

Beware of any intiative that talks about “engineering solutions” or anyone who says “going forward”.

Steve Goodman
22, May 2012 8:59 am

For those who may have missed it, the proposed change to a discredited PFI road maintenance contract for 25 years is not yet a certainty. As I said to those responsible, in the days when it was still possible to ask awkward questions at public council meetings, when will this council start taking it’s duty to taxpayers seriously? Why should only a few here today, gone tomorrow… Read more »

Cynic
22, May 2012 9:34 am

I wonder what the National Audit Office’s view would be on a multi-million, 25 years contract being decided by “Delegated Decision” and avoiding scrutiny?

One notes that the “Business Plan” was not attached to the “disapplication” (sic!) decision.

daveq
Reply to  Cynic
22, May 2012 11:28 am

Telescope to blind eye job?

Island Monkey
22, May 2012 12:45 pm

This report clearly says ‘submit the final business case to the Department of Transport.’ Does this mean this is not yet a done deal, despite the previous claims of the council?

Steve Goodman
Reply to  Island Monkey
22, May 2012 2:54 pm

Yes.

playingthenumbers
22, May 2012 1:10 pm

A £1bn project, paid for by taxation & borrowing. Then more taxation to pay for the borrowing, more cuts to things like education or health & more disposal of assets whose revenue cannot keep pace with the repayments demanded of the taxation & borrowing. For what? Is it within the purview of any of the elected members to explain how, in the modern world this project can… Read more »

Paul Miller
Reply to  playingthenumbers
22, May 2012 1:53 pm

The concept of odious debt [which is repudiated later because it is deemed taken on without consent] – much like of vaunted ‘PFI’ is described in the case of Greece in the excellent documentary “Debtrocracy”

playingthenumbers
Reply to  playingthenumbers
6, June 2012 10:59 am

Does the chancellor of the exchequer read VB? The headline in the Independent online today ‘Osborne’s latest plan: ask Britain’s savers for money’ Treasury to fund infrastructure projects by selling us ‘growth bonds’ suggest he might. If we recalibrate the PFI deal, strip out the ridiculous finance costs the provider (us eventually) will have to stump up, bring the project back to something approaching excitingly large but… Read more »

adrian nicholas
22, May 2012 3:00 pm

Cynic said; This is just another version of the old sales ploy “If you don’t buy it now, the price will go up!” used by doorstep salesmen the world over! Well in this case, i’ll wager the price will go up regardless. Another case of neo-liberalist profiteering using private leveraged debt subsidized by public debt to ensures trebles all round for those involved in this ‘project’. Makes… Read more »

Cynic
22, May 2012 3:15 pm

Having run major multimillion projects in my former professional life, I know two things from experience. Firstly, central and local government are incapable of defining the project tightly enough, leading to inevitable contract changes that always increase the price. In fact, the negotiating strategy of some companies is to win the public service contract with a low price, knowing full well that they can make up the… Read more »

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