What does the Isle of Wight MP think of Boris Johnson suspending Parliament?

Boris Johnson’s request to suspend parliament has had a wildly varied reaction today. OnTheWight posed a couple of questions to find out what the current Isle of Wight MP thought about it. Here’s what he said

Bob seely on laptop

You won’t have been able to miss that Boris Johnson had asked the Queen to suspend Parliament. As has become normal these days, the reaction has been mixed.

Around midday, after Mr Johnson had made the request, OnTheWight dropped the following couple of questions to the current Isle of Wight MP, Bob Seely.

Can you let us/readers know your views on Boris Johnson wanting to suspend Parliament. 

What do you say to those, including the Speaker of the House, that say it is “an offence against the democratic process and the rights of Parliamentarians as the people’s elected representatives”?

Obv keen for a swift response.

Seely: “We have spent months debating Brexit”
A bit after 5pm he replied with the following:

“62 percent of Islanders voted to leave the European Union. We need to deliver on that promise. Boris is doing so.

“We should all be looking forward to a good Queen’s speech. We need to get on and deliver on a domestic agenda: delivering more police, improving healthcare, getting more resources for education – the things that matter to people on the Island and nationally.  We are getting there – the additional £48 million for the NHS in part of that – but there is more to do.

“Proroguing Parliament is perfectly normal.  It happens prior to a Queen’s Speech. This Parliament has been on the longest in our history.  In reality we are effectively sitting for a few days less in October. It may, however, make it more difficult for MPs to overrule the will of the people and block Brexit. I believe that it is important that we respect the mandate of the 2016 referendum and deliver Brexit.

“We have spent months debating Brexit. We now need to get on with it, and get on with governing for the people of this country.”

Twitter action
In the five-ish hours between us asking and him answering Bob had been on Twitter proclaiming

“Powerful facts here showing lack of balance. Media need to fairly report both sides. 👍”

The original twitter account Bob was RTing was @WeBackBoris who claimed the following to their ~1,500 followers 

“In the past 36 hours, broadcasters have had the following number of media appearances from second referendum supporting MPs, MEPs & Party Leaders:” then claimed the numbers of ‘Remoaners’ (their words) and Brexiteers who had appeared on BBC and Sky News were significantly different, ending with the hashtag #MainstreamMediaBiasedExposed

The numbers used in the tweet weren’t given a source.

Thumbs up from Bob
Prior to that he’d given an indication of the way he was feeling about it by Tweeting a ‘👍’ on an Iain Dale article headlined: “Calm Down, Calm Down, Prorogation is Not the End of Democracy As We Know It”

Wednesday, 28th August, 2019 6:44pm

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Steve Goodman

Channel 4 news has reminded us that not long ago Johnson and Gove and Rudd et al were, for good reason, publicly very much against doing what they have just done.

bones

Channel 4 news is so biased towards the Labour Party it’s not worth switching on.

peterj

Questioning and holding the Government to account is not the same thing as being biased towards Labour. It should be commonplace, but sadly the vast majority of the media now routinely fail to do this.

Another extremely depressing factor in our declining democracy.

Steve Goodman

Biased bones is so being a bonehead by choosing to display his/ her own unjustifiable personal prejudice publicly.

In contrast, Channel 4 news, and today’s Guardian newspaper, have both reliably reported the reminders of the recent public pronouncements of our mendacious tory ministers now being embarrassed by their unprincipled U-turns.

Steve Goodman
From worthwhile factual reporting we know that the list of shameless dishonourable hypocritical tory Ministers who had so recently scorned suspending Parliament includes Hancock, Gove, Javid, Leadsome, Morgan, and Rudd, and we know that their boss Boris has a long history of lying (and being kicked out for doing so) to his family, his private employers, his political employers, his party, and his fellow citizens – so… Read more »
Steve Goodman
EG 1. Minister Nicky Morgan: (proroguing parliament) is “clearly a mad suggestion. You cannot say you are going to take back control…and then go ‘Oh, by the way, we are just going to shut parliament down for a couple of months so we are just going to drift out on a no deal'” (BBC Question Time, June 6th) When asked about her new contradictory position 3 days… Read more »
Steve Goodman

EG 1(1):

Malleable Minister Morgan responding to the rumours the day before the truth could no longer be denied and she changed her tune: “Downing Street have made it very clear that claims of any sort of prorogation in September are utterly false.” (BBC Radio 4, August 27th)

Steve Goodman
EG 2. Minister Matt Hancock: until recently a vigorous opponent of prorogation, who wrote pledging to rule out the option and urging other candidates to do the same (in a letter dated June 6th, during the tory leadership campaign). “To suspend parliament explicitly to pursue a course of action against its wishes is not a serious policy of a prime minister in the 21st century…A policy to… Read more »
Steve Goodman
EG 3. Minister Michael Gove told us on the BBC’s Andrew Marr Show in June that “Proroguing parliament, in order to try and get no deal through, I think would be wrong…I think it would be wrong for many reasons. I think it would not be true to the best traditions of British democracy.” But last Wednesday, when asked by the BBC whether the prorogation was a… Read more »
Steve Goodman
EG 4. Minister Amber Rudd (who raised eyebrows during the 2016 Brexit referendum campaign by describing Boris Johnson as the “life and soul of the party” but “not the man you want driving you home at the end of the evening”) in June described suspending parliament as “absolutely outrageous.” “To consider closing parliament is the most extraordinary idea I’ve ever heard… It’s a ridiculous suggestion. For a… Read more »
Steve Goodman

EG 5. Minister Sajid Javid was also formerly fiercely against shutting down parliament…”You don’t deliver on democracy by trashing democracy…we are not selecting a dictator of our country” he said, during the tory leadership campaign (which we now see was apparently won by dictatorial Dominic Cummings/ Nigel Farage/ the worst foreign secretary in living memory).

alisonjane

Oh bless you Bob!
How easily you forget that you, as the Islands MP went against the 62% of Islanders that voted to leave the EU on more than one occasion.
You seem to swing whichever way the wind is blowing.

bobseely
HI. I voted for Brexit in 2016 and have voted in Parliament every time in favour of leaving. This post appears to be part of a campaign which is trying to claim that I voted Remain or supported it. This is not true. I voted for Brexit in 2016 as a private individual and voted for the Brexit deal in Parliament. Please don’t make up false allegations.
prof
To be fair, what you voted for was Theresa May’s bad deal which was basically an 18 month extension of negotiations under poorer terms followed by an indefinite lock in under terrible terms once the backstop kicked in. Unless, of course, by some miracle we come up with a solution to the Irish border problem that has eluded us so far. (I know the EU say they… Read more »
wighty
Holy s***. St Bob, patron saint of Social Media Non-responders on has joined us from Oxford to accuse Islanders of being part of a campaign against him. Could an election be in the offing? Why not try responding to the people who contact you on your own FB & Twitter accounts Bob? Even if you start now we are not going to forget the years you have… Read more »
bobseely

I have never lived in Oxford in my life. This is another falsehood.

alisonjane

Where exactly would you class as your ‘main residence’ then Bob?

dujardin
Mr Seely, we are well aware that you not only voted for Brexit, but that you were one of it’s enablers, along with your former colleague Steve Tatham .After all isn’t that your only real proffession? Indeed just yesterday you published a paper on Russian Hybrid methods in destabilising Ukraine while at the same time most telling is your silence on the Russian money funnelled to UKIP,… Read more »
Steve Goodman

Parroting the pretence (“Proroguing Parliament is perfectly normal…”) fools nobody following this serious self-harming deepening constitutional crisis, because nothing’s been normal for ages now.

bones

John Major…..look up his history.

Steve Goodman

Also a reminder that for ‘needing to deliver on more police, healthcare, etc.’, read ‘now forced to reverse some of the savage harmful cuts we chose to impose since coming to power nine years ago.’

Jenny Smart

The Conservatives know they are a busted flush. If they don’t deliver a true Brexit they will be out of office in the next General Election. If they do, then their only hope is to bribe the electorate, but will their promises of jam tomorrow fool the electorate? Voters will probably say in the ballot box, thank you very much, now **** off

Steve Goodman
What can voters thank them for, after all these years of cuts, chaos, and crisis? Three divisive PMs in as many years? Promising strong and stable but providing weak and wobbly while the world has watched and waited to see what will remain worthy of respect in our once great nation? Replacing conservatism with a careless and reckless wrecking of what we could previously take pride in?… Read more »
Steve Goodman

It seems that the first to **** off will be Ruth Davidson, the leader of the Scottish Conservatives, who has announced her imminent resignation from her role as party leader, a move that could cost the PM a majority at the next general election.

Steve Goodman

Now we know that two torys have ****ed off; honourable grandee Minister and Whip Lord George Young has also gone in response to the dishonourable behaviour of Boris et al.

Steve Goodman
Continuing to count the cons ****ing off before further comment from voters quickly became part of this perilous pantomime, didn’t it? Dr Phillip Lee’s dramatic departure, leaving for the Liberals as our PM panto villain/ clown was trying to tell us how well things were going, marked the loss of the government’s majority (just the sort of thing which used to precipitate a PM resignation in the… Read more »
Steve Goodman

Keeping up with the count of cons ****ing off; Jo, the brother of Boris.

Also in the lunchtime news; Labour’s Luciana Berger has just became a Liberal…

and about 70 000 people in the Bahamas have become the latest fellow humans needing urgent help because of the global environmental emergency on our back burner because of the brexit b***s up.

Steve Goodman
Today we find that the latest domino to fall in this farcical **** off from the party part of the brexit s**tshow is prorogue u-turn Minister Amber Rudd. Today at one of the many mass public gatherings against the government’s mishandling of this matter I met principled MP Dr. Phillip Lee (who, for anyone new to this, left for the Liberals after 27 years as a conservative… Read more »
Steve Goodman

If evidently uncivil Bob genuinely wanted balanced reporting, in addition to his unnecessary insulting use of the fire-stoking remoaner label he should perhaps have also referred to brexs**teers.

Steve Goodman

Will of the people?

Nobody voted for this nonsense; it was never an option.

Nor, as we see, was the quick and easy transition to sunlit uplands promised by the snake oil sellers three and a half years ago.

Steve Goodman
What a costly distracting embarrassing prolonged s**tshow brexit is. We still don’t know what we should have known before being asked to vote on it (i.e. what would replace the existing arrangement). Mrs May said at least 108 times that we would go it alone by the end of last March. We don’t know if the latest PM’s promised date will be any more reliable. As Parliament… Read more »
bones

What a lot of bitter people.

I wonder what you will feel about a Marxist government ? Perhaps you should give it some thought.

Mark L Francis
i have always been told that the reason we have a queen is as a brake on dictatorial government. 65 years a queen (or however long) and this is her big chance and she blew it. So what is the queen FOR then? You had one job – & you blew it. Since 1688 the monarch has been the “King/Queen in Parliament ” and is in their… Read more »
Steve Goodman

If evidently uncivil Bob genuinely wanted balanced reporting, in addition to his unnecessary RT of the insulting use of the fire-stoking remoaner label he should perhaps have also referred to brexsh**ters.

oldie
OK ThomasC: You asked so here goes: Our great country is the fifth largest economy. Our Parliament with its unwritten British Constitution is the oldest in the world; our legal system is the most renowned in the world. In 2016 I just voted to leave because I thought U.K. sovereignty was compromised by foreign, unelected masters, and that we were compelled to give away our fishing grounds,… Read more »
ThomasC
There is a cascade of lies in this post, that you’ve swallowed these, from the tabloid press is not the saddest part of it. The saddest part of it is that I asked you to provide a benefit of leaving the EU. You don’t seem to have provided a single one. For someone who claims to be ready to celebrate leaving the EU, you should understand that… Read more »
davimel
Very well said Oldie. I note a great many fellow leavers are remaining quiet, perhaps giving the vociferous few the opinion that they are winning some strange competition, but the truth is that democracy has broken down in the UK. It doesn’t matter if you think Boris has broken an unwritten law or that a democratic election result is being overturned, the fact is that as a… Read more »
peterj
An alert sound goes off in my head whenever I see the term ‘true facts’, it usually means the opposite. Your impressive sounding opening is almost entirely wrong. We are not the oldest democracy (it’s Iceland), we have the most draconian libel laws in the western world (for example), oldest *unwritten* constitution (really? It’s embarrassing it isn’t codified) and we are almost certainly not the 5th richest… Read more »
peterj

Okay, so you didn’t make the claim about being the oldest democracy, my brain edited that in somehow. But the rest stands obviously.

peterj

Is it Friday? It must be Friday – I said democracy but meant parliament. You did make the claim for being the oldest parliament and it still isn’t. It is still Iceland.

Steve Goodman
Question update: What does the Isle of Wight MP think of Boris Johnson’s closest adviser, Dominic Cummings (famous for fake news, for his disdain for Whitehall and the way the entire system of British government works, and for being ruled to be in contempt of parliament after failing to appear before MPs investigating fake news like his), and No 10’s director of legislative affairs, Nikki da Costa, and… Read more »
Steve Goodman
Thanks to yesterday’s BBC TV and other reporting, constiuents do know a bit about what (‘we’re all obsessed by brexit’) Bob thinks of the present parallel situation in Hong Kong, where he has gone to ‘observe and understand’ some foreign ‘growing authoritarianism’ and the reaction which is ‘clearly an indiginous protest coming from the people’. To help Bob’s stated ‘need to better understand the big changes happening… Read more »
Steve Goodman
Over the past year millions of schoolchildren around the world have demonstrated an increasingly ‘better understanding of big changes’ and the increasingly urgent need to respond by making the big system changes needed to halt, and if still possible, reverse the suicidal damage, following the example of the then 15-year old Greta Thunberg. While Bob was busy aggravating our existential emergency by flying away from breaking Britain,… Read more »
the auditor
Well it’s an unholy mess. As a Scottish resident, it appears to me that Scottish Independence from the robber barons of Westmonster is now inevitable. I wonder how the Treasury will cope without all the whisky duty, VAT and oil revenue from Scotland? The Tories have systematically plundered Scottish resources and contrary to popular belief, Scotland is not subsidised by England, rather the reverse is true. Bring… Read more »
Tim

With all due respect the Scots have already had their referendum, their democratic majority view was to remain within the UK. Perhaps now they could respect the democratic will of all of the UK to leave the EU?

Barry

Are they able to think.
At least they all have a holiday now.
Maybe they will come over here on their heavily discounted ferry fares!

davee

Well, there is some good news!! For the first time since Maggie Thatcher, there is a pair of cojones in 10 Downing Street.

Steve Goodman

The parliamentary petition in response to the increasingly damaging divisive dictatorial government’s latest outrage seems to be gaining a couple of thousand signatures a minute; link below

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/269157

Steve Goodman

For fellow insomniacs, the petition also provides an option to count something other than the traditional sheep: already much more than a million since the midday embarrassment by BJ, and still rising fast.

Tim

If Bob was that interested in majority opinion on the island he would be vigorously pursuing the fixed link, not obstructing it!

oldie

God Bless our Dear Queen for proroguing Parliament. The people love our Queen.
The majority of Islanders voted to Leave the EU.
God Bless Boris. The majority of Island Conservatives support him. Thankyou Island MP Bob Seely. At last we will be leaving the EU on October 31st. What a celebration it will be on November 1st.

ThomasC

What will you actually be celebrating? The loss of citizen’s rights? The trashing of our manufacturing industries? New tariffs on our daily shopping?

What actual material benefit can you name that we should celebrate as we lose control of our parliament to an unelected prime minister managed by unelected bureaucrats?

Really interested to hear…

Tim

Liberation from a remote authoritarian EU that spends our taxes on major infrastructure projects in foreign lands but not on the Isle of Wight perhaps? It may have escaped your notice but we have two of the most dangerous roads in the country on the island, nothing that J-C Juncker has shown any interest in!

richardshanklinite

Don’t forget we are not an island according to the pen pushers at Brussels

newman

JCJ hasn’t paid any attention to our roads because it’s nothing to do with him or the EU. It’s solely the responsibility of our government. More leaver lies.

Tim

More remainer lies!
Applications for funding under the call should be submitted (in electronic format only) between 8 January 2019 and 24 April 2019. The indicative call budget is €100 million. A virtual information day on the call will take place on 17 January 2019. Since 2014, 689 transport projects have already been supported under CEF with around €23 billion of EU funding.(source EU transport commissioner)

newman

It’s our government’s responsibility to provide the funding and it’s up to them where they source it and how they prioritise projects. The IW has been under tory rule for decades, ask your MP why the roads haven’t been fixed, not JCJ. Next leaver’s will be blaming the UK government’s immigration policy on the EU, oh hang on…

Tim

Where on earth does immigration come into it? The matter in hand is the island being starved of public funds whilst overseas nations benefit from our taxes?

ThomasC
Are we talking about the cost of EU membership, or the overseas aid budget? You seem to be confused here. Our EU membership cost enables hundreds of billions of £ of trade across the EU. Our overseas aid budget helps secure contracts for British firms around the world. Both are a tiny proportion of government spending and deliver significant economic benefit to the UK. The UK Government… Read more »
ThomasC

12 hours and no one’s presented any benefits worth celebrating associated with leaving the EU. Come on, Oldie – what actual tangible benefits are you going to be celebrating on 1st November?

Steve Goodman

As the pound continues to plunge in value and the markets rightly remain jittery in reaction to our reckless government action, the only people to benefit are the likes of hypocritical Royal holiday interrupter Jacob Rees-Mogg, who was effortlessly able to move much of his money-making from Britain to the EU (Dublin) ahead of the damage he’s doing.

Tim

There might be funds available to make our roads safer?

Steve Goodman

As reported here OTW thanks to Mike Starke we know that the Island’s con councillors quietly chose to stop using available road funds ahead of lumbering everyone with the flawed pricey PFI scam which, on the plus side, twice made some serious funding available to the scam’s expensive expert consultant for fun essentials like flaunting his personalised number plate on our unsafe roads.

ThomasC
A lot of EU money has been spent in Cornwall and Wales improving the road infrastructure. If our government is not applying for funding from the EU to improve the IW’s roads, that’s an in-country issue, not an EU isse. However, if the only reason you can think of for leaving the EU is to make our roads safer, then your justification for leaving the EU, which… Read more »
Steve Goodman
Some of our famously confused con councillors might fit in well in Cornwall, where many people unaware of how much money they were getting (as the only local authority in England covering what qualifies under EU rules as a less developed region) voted to leave before having to then fund a post-vote bid for a Cornish Brussels office in a desperate attempt to maintain that essential money… Read more »
Steve Goodman
Some of our famously confused con councillors might fit in well in Cornwall, where many people unaware of how much money they were getting (as the only local authority in England covering what qualifies under EU rules as a less developed region) voted to leave before having to then fund a post-vote bid for a Cornish Brussels office in a desperate attempt to maintain that essential money… Read more »
Tim

ThomasC If you look at EU funding policy we are unfortunately deemed to be part of the prosperous south east with no consideration whatsoever being given to the very well documented isolation & separation from the mainland issues.

oldie

I did reply ThomasC but for some reason my answer to you has been inserted higher up in this thread.

Mark L Francis

We sorted out your lot at the Battle of Naseby.