Andrew Turner Speaks Out About Isle of Wight Constituency In Parliament (Video)

You may’ve heard that Nick Clegg was pushing ahead yesterday with his plan to make constituencies across the UK of a similar size.

MP Speaks Out About Isle of Wight Constituency In ParliamentWhile announcing it to the House of Commons, he came into conflict with Isle of Wight MP, Andrew Turner, who has previously struck us as unrileable.

While Nick Clegg was announcing that there’d only be two exceptions in the UK – Orkney and Shetland, and the Western Isles, in Scotland, Andrew Turner shouted out, “What about the Isle of Wight?”

Video after the jump

The Speaker interjects
The Speaker of the House, John Bercow, was forced to interject, “Order. I am sorry to have to interrupt the Deputy Prime Minister, but Mr Turner must not, however strongly he feels, shriek from a sedentary position in that way. It is very unseemly and if, I may say so, very untypical of the hon. Gentleman, who is normally grace itself.”

Sedentary position
Most of Bercow’s words are easily understandable, but one part needs translating. “Sedentary position” is explained on TheyWorkForYou, as

“In the process of debate, members of parliament need to stand up in order to be recognised and given a turn to speak, and then they formally make a speech in the debate. “From a sedentary position” is Commons code for “heckling”.

“Very disappointed”
Speaking today, Andrew Turner commented on the situation, pledging that he will not give up the fight for the Island’s unique status to be recognised

“I am very disappointed that Nick Clegg has not yet recognised the unique status of the Isle of Wight. I will be fighting on to try to make him see sense. I fully support reducing the number of MPs – but not at the cost of losing long-recognized historic and geographic boundaries.

“I called a debate on 15th June about this issue – and was told then that no final decisions had been made. It seems now that Mr Clegg was prepared to listen to the arguments for the Scottish Islands, but not for the Isle of Wight – even though the Scottish Islands are much smaller constituencies than the average.

“I am contacting the Island’s Labour Party and Liberal Democrats and will be asking them to support me in fighting this proposal. A number of Islanders have raised this with me and they are all against it!

“If the Boundaries Commission increased the average size of constituencies to the 110,000 voters we have on the Island we would only need 413 MPs – that would be a very real saving!”

Image: Alan Cleaver under CC BY 2.0

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Joe Plumb
6, July 2010 5:30 pm

Andrew Turner is only ‘shreiking’ out because he worried about his job! If the island is forced to ‘split’ into two constituencies he will have to choose where to go to…

Mike
6, July 2010 8:30 pm

Perhaps if Mr Turner had been as robust attacking his partys ruling Council against the closure of vital services on the Island he mght get heard.

intentionally blank
6, July 2010 8:39 pm

He wont have to choose where to go if we are split, he will have to stand in a by election. If the lib dems get a yes on their referendum on voting reform, there will have to be a general election also. They cannot say that the majority of the country wants change in the voting system and then wait 5 years to implement it. As… Read more »

N0.5
Reply to  intentionally blank
6, July 2010 9:06 pm

They won’t win a referendum on AV anyway…The Tories and Labour will both vote against it.

The electoral reform carrot is well and truly leading the donkeys

Cameron is not supporting Clegg..its a free vote

The concellation will be an elected upper house and rid of the third estate

intentionally blank
Reply to  N0.5
6, July 2010 9:34 pm

well, its not the tories and labour that get to vote in a referendum, its the entire electorate. The tories must support lib dems on holding a referendum as this will have been a condition of the coalition. Labour wont oppose holding a referendum either if it helps oust the coalition government ahead of time. Of course theres no obligation for the politicians to actually impliment any… Read more »

N0.5
Reply to  intentionally blank
6, July 2010 10:13 pm

No…theres a vote on there being a referendum..which Clegg won’t win. Cameron has already announced it will be a free vote

intentionally blank
Reply to  N0.5
7, July 2010 10:28 am

and if clegg doesnt win it the coalition government will start to show cracks at the very least. the tories really have no option but to support the referendum if they want to stay in power. It might be a free vote, but the politics of the coalition push tory MPs into voting for a referendum.

No.5
Reply to  N0.5
7, July 2010 11:07 am

Heres hoping.

L PINKERTON
Reply to  N0.5
7, July 2010 3:42 pm

Cameron has already said he will vote against a referendum.

matt
6, July 2010 9:44 pm

You’re all wrong, Andrew is quite secure-he is simple defending our right not to have a mainalnd MP take over part of the Island! We are not part of Hampshire, but that is how Nick Clegg would prefer us to be. Get your facts right, and argue the relevent points!!

intentionally blank
Reply to  matt
6, July 2010 9:57 pm

andrew is quite secure? hes about as secure as any other MP. If i recall the voting figures correctly, turner had a 2% drop whilst the lib dems had a 2% rise. Had the lib dems gained another 10000 votes or 15%, Jill Wareham would be our MP. Whilst that may seem secure, compared to the previous election where Turners majority was around 17000 if memory serves,… Read more »

Don Smith
Reply to  intentionally blank
6, July 2010 10:56 pm

15.000 postal votes! I wonder who places the X in the box for the old dears?

islebeseeingyou
Reply to  Don Smith
7, July 2010 7:52 am

I would imagine you know quite a few old dears Don. I never ever considered helping any “old dears” put a cross in their box, now do you want to own up to something? You, after all did not want the tories in power. Well down AT for standing up for the Island and just a reminder Ms Wareham had a 2% swing because people like No.5… Read more »

No.5
Reply to  islebeseeingyou
7, July 2010 10:26 am

Probably the most shameful thing I have done in recent history…but I’ll make up for it

Don Smith
Reply to  islebeseeingyou
7, July 2010 10:53 am

Knowing old dears! Just my dear wife, and we are quite capable of placing an X on the ballot paper – But there are many who can’t. Some years ago I was distributing election leaflets in the Mount Joy area. I called at many OAP nursing homes and asked if I could leave a dozen or so for them to give to their residents. “No! They do… Read more »

Don Smith
Reply to  matt
6, July 2010 10:54 pm

I did not know that Andrew Turner MP was an islander.

We need less MPs and get rid of the House of Nod (Lords.) That’s all they appear to do is to nod off; by then however they have booked in for their daily allowances. It is a scandal of the highest order. Talk about jobs for the boys.

islebeseeingyou
Reply to  Don Smith
7, July 2010 7:55 am

Are you and Islander Don, or were you posted here by the Prison Service? Surely it doesn’t matter where you come from as long as you care about where you live and Andrew Turner does care so what more do you want? I would also add that Mark Chiverton and Jill Wareham do not come from the Island – perhaps we should have a new criteria for… Read more »

Geoff Lumley
Reply to  islebeseeingyou
7, July 2010 9:00 am

Get your facts right ! Mark is very definitely Island born and bred.

Don Smith
Reply to  islebeseeingyou
7, July 2010 11:01 am

I came to the island by order of the Queen. I can not move off; I do not get a moving on/off expenses.

Andrew Turner came over by order of the conservative party, knowing full well that he would be the next Tory candidate.

Which came first: the flat in Cowes or the invitation?

islebeseeingyou
Reply to  Don Smith
7, July 2010 11:50 am

In other words Don you are a mainlander transferred here by the Prison Service. I am sure the Queen had nothing to do with you coming to the Island but thanks for making me laugh. I do know a little about the Prison Service. You would have been able to refuse the posting and been able to request to go elsewhere. You could also have asked for… Read more »

Sailor Sam
Reply to  matt
7, July 2010 9:36 am

Is that why we have Hampshire police policing the Island?

L PINKERTON
Reply to  matt
7, July 2010 3:44 pm

But he was an MP from Oxfordshire himself.

Turner fan
6, July 2010 11:04 pm

Well done Andrew Turner, stuff the speaker, that’s exactly why Turner got my vote – he shoots from the hip! Keep yelling Andrew, splitting a chunk of the Island off to join the mainland, sounds like a bad April fool. Clegg hasn’t thought it through, does he know where the Isle of Wight is? This idea is daft, a non starter. We are a single Island, one… Read more »

N0.5
Reply to  Turner fan
6, July 2010 11:31 pm

are we…….I don’t think so

we have the have and have nots

The NIMBYS and the rest

The Tourist east and the Tory west

RTUC
Reply to  Turner fan
7, July 2010 1:05 am

The Trades Council is indeed in support of the call for a united front on the constitutional issue regarding representation on the Isle of Wight. We will do all we can to support the principle of two MP’s on the island.

DiscoDave
7, July 2010 9:50 am

Does Mr Turner speak for the Island? Everyone I have spoken to supports the idea of two MP’s on the Island. As long as and this is the important bit, there is a local election for the second post. Obviously the selection of people I have spoken to doesn’t necessary represent the Island as a whole then again Mr Turner might not. I feel on such an… Read more »

intentionally blank
Reply to  DiscoDave
7, July 2010 10:45 am

I suspect we will stay exactly the same. Remember, Clegg is mentioning exceptions, but he also clearly says that no constituency will be larger than the largest one now. The island is the largest constituency. I read that to be saying we will remain the same, and other constituencies willbe amalgamated to bring them up to the size of the island. It will be interesting to see… Read more »

No.5
Reply to  DiscoDave
7, July 2010 10:48 am

We won’t get two MP’s..the number is being reduced, they will not make a special case of the Isle of Wight. So if this goes ahead (and it should because Cameron wants it) then the only option is to merge part of the Island with mainland constiuency. To my mind the obvious choice would be part of the West Wight with the New Forest….thats why AT is… Read more »

No.5
Reply to  No.5
7, July 2010 10:58 am

Clegg has confirmed that equal size will take precedent over all othe considerations ( with the three exceptions in Scotland – Firstly the Western Isles, secondly Orkney and Shetland (as at present) and thirdly, a geographical cap on the maximum size of a seat, which will be capped at the size of the largest current seat.This is Ross, Skye and Lochaber with a size of 1277947 hectares… Read more »

L PINKERTON
Reply to  No.5
7, July 2010 3:46 pm

So the West Wight joins with the New Forest.

bembridgeboy
Reply to  DiscoDave
7, July 2010 4:22 pm

A couple of years ago there was a boundary review on the Island at local council level. Bembridge always had two Island Councillors representing the village. The Boundary Commission recommended changes and that Bembridge, Brading and St Helens should be represented by two councillors in total, thereby cutting the representation at County Hall by one. The conservatives fought this recommendation hard. I am told this included Mr… Read more »

Matt
7, July 2010 3:51 pm

As has been pointed out the boundary review is to reduce the number of MPs, not create another seat out of the Isle of Wight. We won’t get an East Wight/West Wight MP, we will get an Island MP and the excess will become part of the New Forest! This situation would be a disaster for the Island and we need to support him by writing letters… Read more »

N0.5
Reply to  Matt
7, July 2010 6:18 pm

Why would it be a disaster?

Jackie
7, July 2010 6:12 pm

There won’t be electoral reform…they plan to count the non votes as no votes and lets face it , more people don’t vote than vote…fait de compli

N0.5
Reply to  Jackie
7, July 2010 6:18 pm

This isn’t electerol reform…thats a different plan, which as I see it will never happen..the LIbDems carrot of electoral reform is a non starter.

But these boundary reforms are fully supported by Cameron and will almost certainly happen over the next five years ( basically the term of this government barring meltdown)

Oldie
7, July 2010 10:02 pm

Andrew Turner did the only thing he could by shouting out “What about the Isle of Wight?” from a sedantry position. How else was he supposed to make the point! Does anyone seriously think that he could have caught Speaker John Bercow’s eye and been allowed to say it the conventional way when Cameron obviously doesn’t want it. There’s none so blind as those who won’t see.… Read more »

N0.5
Reply to  Oldie
7, July 2010 10:12 pm

Whats the difference between that and the Island being AT second home? Are you saying that AT can get to see all 100,000+ voters better than an MP from the New Forest with only 70,000 voters to see I had themisfortune of listening to one of AT late night rambles on the Parliament channel. He highlighted the plight of the Scottish Island very eloquently and accuratly described… Read more »

N0.5
Reply to  N0.5
7, July 2010 10:19 pm

Don’t get me wrong..I’m in favour of 2 island constituencies..just can’t see it happening

Oldie
Reply to  N0.5
7, July 2010 10:43 pm

I just think it’s unrealistic for an MP whose constituency is split between the mainland and the Island will have his second home cut off from Westminster stuck on an Island. Just as we never see our Euro MEPS because they are living it up in Europe, the people in West Wight would never see their MP because he’d be living it up on mainland Britain. The… Read more »

Turner fan
7, July 2010 10:48 pm

At present if you want to see your Mp you go see him in Newport. Do you really want to go and see your Mp in Lymington, or Portsmouth, Southampton perhaps? Will he or she reimburse your ferry fare? This idea is daft. We are a community, we only need one Member of Parliament. Let’s face it, no-one knows who our Mep is nor how to contact… Read more »

N0.5
Reply to  Turner fan
7, July 2010 10:59 pm

I would guess that the New Forest MP would hold a weekly surgery over here, after all AT lives in London.

The Isle of Wight is already shortchanged by only having one MP for 110,000 voters

Turner fan
7, July 2010 11:01 pm

Only to comply with the silly expense rules, he’s here Friday Saturday Sunday and Monday, when the House is sitting and seems to be here at all other times when it’s not. Who wants a one day a week mainland Mp? Not I.

N0.5
Reply to  Turner fan
7, July 2010 11:45 pm

hmm!!! best to avoid the word ‘expenses’.

How many people see their MP once a week…most will make a telephone call and make an appointment…90% just don’t bother.

I suspect that we would get amuch better service from our MPs if there were two of them..the fact is that neither of them would live on the Island and with smaller constituencies, a fairer system would ensue

Turner fan
8, July 2010 10:08 am

Why avoid the word expenses? Despite having more constituents than any other Mp, Turner is mid table with his expenses, staff costs are of course the largest expense. Turner stuck to the rules, that’s why he declared his London flat his ‘home’ It is very obvious to all that the bloke lives in Newport, he stays in London for work, ie us, a few nights a week.… Read more »

No.5
Reply to  Turner fan
8, July 2010 10:19 am

why not? What difference does it make. The West Wight has more in common with the New Forest than it does with the East Wight. You would be able to see (personally) your MP as much as you do AT and of course email and telephone make distance irrelevent. It could be that the WNF MP lives closer to Freshwater than a second MP based in Sandown.… Read more »

Turner fan
8, July 2010 10:44 am

What about the people who couldn’t afford the ferry? What about the New Forest Mp who opposes the Lymington Yarmouth ferries? Who would he back? His yachties or Islanders? And would a mainland Mp really understand the Island’s problems? I doubt it. How often do we see our MEP’s? I never hear a word from them, nor do I think they even have an office here. No-one… Read more »

No.5
Reply to  Turner fan
8, July 2010 12:30 pm

what ferry….the MP would be on the Island..they would make up some 20,000 of his constituants so he would have a surgery over here. No worse a service than the East (tourist) Wight gets from our pro-hunting current MP..Does AT support the larger ferries and the damage done to the Yarmouth coast line? AT is a Mainland MP…he moved here ( well rents a second home here)… Read more »

Turner fan
8, July 2010 5:34 pm

You really do need to get your facts straight No5. Turner is an island resident who stays part-time in London to do his job. He was never an Mp elsewhere.
There is no way we would get a better service from a part-time mainland Mp.

N0.5
Reply to  Turner fan
8, July 2010 5:42 pm

you are correct he lost the Bye Elections in Birmingham and Hackney,which is why I said nearly. He first contested the Island seat in 1997 which he lost winning in 2001. If he is an Island resident, why does he not list his property here as his home? I very much doubt anybody would notice the difference..A mainland based MP in the New Forest could easily spend… Read more »

Don Smith
Reply to  N0.5
9, July 2010 6:58 pm

I was always under the impression that we already have two MPs. My correspondence would substantiate this fact.

No.5
15, July 2010 12:00 pm

At least he’s not to busy to join the Political and Constitutional Reform Committee.

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/8272412.Two_south_MPs_on_influential_committees/

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