Keith Fagan: Cllr Pugh’s Library Evidence ‘Misleading’

With Keith Fagan taking part in a phone-in on Vectis Radio from midday today, we thought it would be useful to give you some background.

Keith FaganBack at the end of February VB broke the news that as member of the Isle of Wight council’s Ethical Standards Committee, Keith Fagan felt so strongly about the evidence that Cllr David Pugh had given to the Parliamentary Select Committee looking into libraries closures, that he felt compelled to resign.

Two days later, the County Press chose to report the same story as “Campaigner resigns after libraries row” with quotes from Cllr Pugh labelling Keith Fagan’s actions as a “politically strong stance”.

VB spoke to Keith Fagan yesterday and it was clear that he was very keen to point out that he is neither a campaigner nor political.

Cllr Pugh evidence was “misleading”
“I am not a campaigner,” he started, “I just felt so strongly that the evidence given by Councillor Pugh was misleading and as such had no option but to resign as I had to bring this to the attention of the DCMS evidence committee and now the people of the Isle of Wight.”

Keith Fagan had served, for five months, as the Chair of Bembridge Library Users’ Group (BLUG) before stepping down in July 2011, so claims a closeness to the details of how the council had handled the library changes. Indeed, BLUG hadn’t been afraid to highlight problems with the council of the process.

His DCMS submission
VB asked for Keith Fagan’s submission to the DCMS, but he declined, saying that he didn’t think it was right to do so before the DCMS had concluded its findings.

We did persuade him to provide two sections – the Introduction and Summary, which we’ve put below.

INTRODUCTION

The Isle of Wight Council’s decision to cut frontline services, including popular, successful and rural libraries as a first resort has now been in the public domain for some time.

The purpose of this submission is not to debate the rights and wrongs of the decision. It is the responsibility of the committee to decide on those matters. However, it is the oral submissions of councillor Pugh to the Evidence Committee that is in question.

This report will present the facts as gathered by the Library Campaigners on the Isle of Wight which are at odds to those presented by Councillor Pugh.

This submission concentrates on the library in Bembridge where the facts were gathered and submitted here are first hand. However, this submission does contain vital facts presented to Keith Fagan that are relevant to the purpose of this Emergency Submission.

In the Summary, Keith makes the declaration his submission is about providing “access to clear and concise facts”, not a “personal or political attack” on Cllr Pugh.

SUMMARY

I, without reservation, confirm that this is not a personal or political attack on the Leader of the Isle of Wight Council or the Council’s Decision; it is to ensure that the Evidence Committee of the DCMS has access to clear and concise facts when considering the Library Closure Programme, particularly when reviewing the Isle of Wight.”

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daveq
20, March 2012 11:02 am

Despite Keith’s submission to the Select Committee and letters to the them from several Islanders, all poiinting out that the evidence they were given by Cllr Pugh was, to say the least, very misleading, the Select Committee have not recalled Cllr Pugh to question the veracity of his evidence. This looks as though, if you are of the same political persuasion as the majority of the committee,… Read more »

Stephen
Reply to  daveq
20, March 2012 1:02 pm

These are the members of the Select Committee that took all the Libraries evidence. What majority is there here? Member Party Constituency John Whittingdale MP (Chair) Conservative Maldon Therese Coffey MP Conservative Suffolk Coastal Damian Collins MP Conservative Folkestone and Hythe Philip Davies MP Conservative Shipley Paul Farrelly MP Labour Newcastle-under-Lyme Louise Mensch MP Conservative Corby Steve Rotheram MP Labour Liverpool Walton Adrian Sanders MP Liberal Democrat… Read more »

No.5
Reply to  Stephen
20, March 2012 1:23 pm

errrr!!! a government one 6/5

island wide
Reply to  Stephen
20, March 2012 3:30 pm

It is alleged that Louise Mensch and Damian Collins both welcomed Cllr David Pugh warmly before he gave evidence. Could this be because they know him personally, I do not know. If it is the case then perhaps they should not have been sitting on the body questioning Cllr Pugh. Openness and transparency are something that seems to have gone by the book these days from government… Read more »

daveq
Reply to  island wide
20, March 2012 3:35 pm

It was after he had given his evidence, he was hugged by one of them, this would lead anyone seeing it to conclude that they were far more than just acquaintences!
The labour MP who gave Pugh such a hard trime was Paul Farrelly, he was obviously well briefed and fully aware what he was facing!

Margie
20, March 2012 12:12 pm

Go Keith – the truth is coming out now!

Martin
20, March 2012 1:15 pm

Well done Keith. It was painful listening to the presenters though they seemed pretty ignorant of what was being discussed.

daveq
20, March 2012 2:10 pm

It would be intersting to hear what DP has to say about this one. He will find it difficult to dispute what Keith has said as it was all 100% honest.

rose
Reply to  daveq
20, March 2012 3:14 pm

it has always been a one sided story from cll pugh, it has been a long time coming to get the other side told, and i know which one i believe in, there is much evidence which is being held , and hopefully will now come out, well done keith, we need more people like you …………

Mr Sandown Sally
20, March 2012 2:36 pm

No-one of sound mind could possibly think David Pugh tells fibs. Could they? I think actually calling someone a liar in parliament is not allowed? No wonder they all tell so many untruths!

daveq
Reply to  Mr Sandown Sally
20, March 2012 3:39 pm

I don’t know if you listened to todays interview but a newspaper report was quoted by one of the interviewers and I am trying to find a copy- from the description of DP given, whoever made the comment obviously knew him very well. If you didn’t hear it, I could not possibly repeat it here, Sally and Simon would ban me for life! But if I find… Read more »

Steve Goodman
Reply to  daveq
20, March 2012 11:23 pm

A quick check of VB provides us with the following: “+7 Curious of Shanklin says: 16, February 2010 at 6:20 pm I seem to recall that David Pugh is no stranger to public controversy; he was featured in the national press in 2003 after the public row on television (cut I believe), when he was accused of being a “cheating b…..d”, during election campaigning for the Young… Read more »

No.5
Reply to  Steve Goodman
21, March 2012 12:51 am

it was ‘Tory Youth’ rather than ‘Young Tories’ Pugh was part of that rebranding disaster

daveq
Reply to  Steve Goodman
21, March 2012 6:37 am

Thanks Steve, I need the actual cutting/s as I have a use for it/them. Anyone any ideas?

Steve Goodman
Reply to  daveq
21, March 2012 9:51 am

Just found this (by googling daily mirror david pugh): – December 6, 2009 at 1:01 pm 1 comment Very interesting article concerning our Council Leader David Pugh. Thought we would share it with you, as it gives an insight into why we should not trust David about his vision of the ‘Isle of Wight’ becoming an Eco Island . Daily Mirror, 11/9/03, p.20 – The Tory party’s… Read more »

Black dog
20, March 2012 4:11 pm

O. M. G. I just feel sorry for the people of Shanklin who actually voted DP in. How embarrassing for that beautiful Town and its people? Where now for the Island Conservatives? They will have to act soon if they are to remain in power, the next time around. I wonder if anyone amongst the Island Conservative the has the guts to invite Keith Fagan along to… Read more »

D'arcy
20, March 2012 4:46 pm

I’m not sure whether Vectis Radio presenters have a full grasp of the arguments, particularly in the light of their earlier cosy interview with DP a few weeks ago. These issues are so important, I would suggest that the BBC South Politics show on Sundays might provide a better forum for discussion.

Concerned
Reply to  D'arcy
20, March 2012 5:25 pm

D’arcy, perhaps someone should tip them off as this is a bit of a hot potato.

D'arcy
Reply to  Concerned
20, March 2012 5:48 pm

Down to Keith really as only he knows exactly what he has submitted and so would have decide whether he wants that level of exposure at this stage.

Concerned
Reply to  D'arcy
20, March 2012 8:14 pm

If you know of Keith you could ask him, he could only say no or he could welcome the opportunity.

Asite2c
20, March 2012 5:47 pm

In my opinion, career minded politicians like Pugh only think about themselves and seem to think lying, spin, dishonesty and misleading others is perfectly acceptable in today’s society. Sadly, it’s nothing these days to see politicians lie through their teeth and get away with it.

Concerned
Reply to  Asite2c
20, March 2012 7:33 pm

Pugh made the comment that the electorate will ultimately decide on Vectis Radio a couple of weeks ago. Well let us see if the people of Shanklin can get behind another candidate who puts Shanklin and the people of Shanklin first

Concerned
20, March 2012 8:08 pm

Does anyone know if I can listen to the interview? Do they have a replay section? Someone told me that sometimes they repeat interviews at 10pm

biggmarket
Reply to  Concerned
21, March 2012 10:28 am

I just heard Ian Mac say that a repeat of the interview will be on Vectis Radio tonight at 10PM and it will also be podcast.

Concerned
Reply to  biggmarket
21, March 2012 11:59 pm

Bl**dy Hell I have just listened to Keith’s interview on Vectis Radio. He has just said everything we suspected of Pugh’s tactics for a long time. Has anyone let BBC South’s Politics show know about this? It will make a great story and lend weight to regime change. Its is a shame that Blair and Bush Jnr are no longer in power – We could have arranged… Read more »

Island Monkey
20, March 2012 8:11 pm

Another example of young David caught being economical with the actualite again?

I hope the BBC politics show do follow this up.

Chris Wilmott
20, March 2012 9:00 pm

Good for you Keith: keep up the good work!

No surprises here, though – what would anyone expect of Cllr Pugh? Surely opennesss and transparency would be two of the least likely candidates!

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