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Frank James developer denies knowledge of planning application for extra houses

The future of Frank James Hospital remains even more confused after developers, Charlemaine Estates, denied they had put in a planning application lodged in its name for two further homes on the site.

The documents accompanying the application stated the scheme to renovate the iconic East Cowes building would not go ahead without the revenue from the new homes, but this has been disputed by the developer.

Stalled due to lack of funds
The heritage statement attached to the plans said:

“These proposed additional dwellings are only being sought as a way of generating sufficient funds to complete the refurbishment and conversion works at the main Frank James hospital building.

“The current development has stalled due to lack of funds and without an additional injection of money, the development will not recommence.”

While the design and access statement says:

“The development has run out of money and cannot progress.”

Receiver believed to have made application
However, a spokesman for Charlemaine Estates said this week that the developer had not made the application and he believed the receiver appointed after the company had loan repayment problems, Hillco Global, had made the application in its name and without its knowledge.

Peter Madden, a former director and now agent for Charlemaine, said the company did have the finances in place to go ahead with the development without the new houses proposed.

Madden: ‘Untrue’ representations in the application
He said in a statement released yesterday (Wednesday):

“I only became aware that a planning application had been submitted by an agent acting on behalf of the receiver to develop part of the property owned by the company and a third party for the construction of four new houses very recently and only learned last Monday that in support of the application, the heritage statement and design and access statement contained representations that were untrue.”

He added that the suggestion the company had no money to progress the scheme was also untrue.

Application for extra houses
Currently, two houses have been permitted by the Isle of Wight Council but the new application is for a further two, two-bedroom homes.

According to previous planning applications, a total of 19 houses and flats have permission to be built in the hospital and around the site.

Love: Opposes extra housing
Isle of Wight Council ward member for East Cowes, Karl Love, however, is opposing the further development and has been asking others to do the same.

He said:

“The Frank James building requires a developer with deep pockets and putting its restoration at the very centre of the project.

“There is a lot remaining to be done on this building.”

Public opposition
Since attention was drawn to the application last week, 18 comments have been made to the Isle of Wight Council’s planning department, opposing the extra building works.

One commenter, who lives on the same road as the Grade II listed building, Adelaide Grove, said there is already parking difficulties.

They said,

“The access to the parking to these new properties would not only reduce parking places, but also with extra houses not having at least two spaces each, there would be even more cars trying to park actually on [the road].”

Another, also from East Cowes, said the whole approach to the restoration of the hospital has been flawed with errors and bad mistakes, strongly objecting the proposals and urged the planning department to reject the application.


This article is from the BBC’s LDRS (Local Democracy Reporter Service) scheme, which OnTheWight is taking part in. Some alterations and additions may be been made by OnTheWight. Ed

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Polka Dot
21, January 2011 3:07 pm

They were also asked why they didn’t return calls to at least 3 of these interested parties, who had been in touch with the council on at least a couple of occasions. They were told their calls would be returned. Have they ? The intersted parties, at the time of Wednesday’s meeting were still waiting for call- backs from the Council that, up until that point in… Read more »

hmmm
21, January 2011 3:54 pm

i do hope that the council will give favorable consideration to any planning application to replace the winter gardens with a property of similar usage, but one more fit for purpose. Especially since the council has failed to maintain the building, any planning application to replace with a larger theatre with more seating, better facilities, and perhaps more parking should be very favorably viewed. Unfortunately, due to… Read more »

Polka Dot
Reply to  hmmm
21, January 2011 3:58 pm

I doubt the building needs knocking down, its structuarally sound. Have their been surveyors reports to the contrary then ? I dont think there has.

BigEars
Reply to  Polka Dot
21, January 2011 4:06 pm

Yes. There has. Isn’t this common knowledge? Part of the building is on the water way of the old mill pond. The building is also on an unstable cliff top, which it is loading precariously.

Polka Dot
Reply to  BigEars
21, January 2011 4:16 pm

Then i stand corrected. I was unaware of this, but still i doubt the whole building needs bulldozing.
My point being, if it can be bulldozed then built on for flats, it can be worked on and made sound for the running of the WG.

hmmm
Reply to  Polka Dot
21, January 2011 4:29 pm

not flats. it must be retained as a venue. but a new building would be better than trying to fix the wreck thats there now.

hmmm
Reply to  Polka Dot
21, January 2011 4:27 pm

who needs a survey? just look at the way the doors are warped. Thats not because the doors have moved, its because the building around it has moved. Frankly, even if the building was in excellent condition I would knock it down and build something larger. Thats the whole reason the winter gardens doesnt attract groups and acts, and the reason why it is in debt. A… Read more »

No.5
Reply to  hmmm
21, January 2011 4:33 pm

new building with apartments to finance it on top floor….

Polka Dot
Reply to  No.5
21, January 2011 4:35 pm

So they can complain about the noise and get it shut down ? Flats on top of pubs and clubs , unless soundproof, dont make good bedfellows, at least not the calibre who can afford luxury penthouse apartments with stunning sea views.

hmmm
Reply to  No.5
21, January 2011 4:45 pm

well, soundproofing is very effective. But personally, i would rather see a few dozen rooms on top that could be run as a hotel, not flats. but also i see no reason why a purpose built venue could not work on its own if it was run correctly.

No.5
Reply to  No.5
21, January 2011 4:54 pm

hotel rooms would work…modern building of this type have no porblems with soundproofing…its what they are designed for.

The venue would need income in the winter and after the honeymoon period when Ventnorians go back to never going there

brunio mccallister
Reply to  hmmm
22, January 2011 4:57 pm

WOah !!! what is it about knocking things down on the island. Why cant we celebrate and restore the building back to its Art Deco original best. If you want a cineworld or wetherspoons style building there or the rex/kingsview which is lame attempt at deco then go ahead. As soon as it is knocked down – like the Grange in sandown, some grubby developer will use… Read more »

hmmm
Reply to  brunio mccallister
22, January 2011 6:52 pm

well, if the building were structurally sound and large enough to attract acts which demand a minimum venue size, I would be the first to say keep it. But its neither of those things. It suffers from subsidence and is not big enough to attract big acts. So, knock it down, stabilise the land, and build a new venue worthy of the name. Instead of keeping a… Read more »

Polka Dot
21, January 2011 4:56 pm

That top room would make a stunning restaurant, sea views, that window wall opens up completely, what a place for a high class restaurant.
There is a lot that can be done, lets hope the councils involved are open to ideas.

Disillusioned
Reply to  Polka Dot
21, January 2011 6:01 pm

Hotel rooms would not provide an income during the winter – ask any Hotelier, especially in Ventnor.

hmmm
Reply to  Disillusioned
21, January 2011 7:01 pm

in winter i would imagine any venue will only be open part time anyway, so i would put a cinema screen in there too. It could provide maybe half a dozen showings per week. A restaurant could also be run using an outside area enclosed with canvas with patio heaters, and obviously the inside areas. Also, theres no reason why shows cant continue over the winter is… Read more »

Polka Dot
Reply to  hmmm
21, January 2011 7:25 pm

If we were all doing nothing, this section wouldnt have any comments and the meeting last week would have been empty. If you generate enough interest for the average person on the street to take an interest, and that usually involves something they can get enthusiastic about, then you will be onto a winner. If its self serving and for the benefit of rich fat cats or… Read more »

No.5
Reply to  Polka Dot
21, January 2011 7:29 pm

shame all the money went to a concession who underpaid the rent.

The building in the future must be treated as a whole (holestic) and not have bits hived of for local profit

hmmm
Reply to  Polka Dot
21, January 2011 8:08 pm

the not bothering comment was aimed at disillusioned. From his comment, it seems he is saying why bother. My comment had just a little sarcasm

bes
22, January 2011 7:55 am

methinks there’s a developer in the midst of these comments! I’ve noticed one of the old ‘Bunbury’ crowd around the WG of much lately! Let’s face it, Ventnor had town meetings about the WG years ago, and for the public’s suggestions for its use. How about all the Other town meetings to save the public property along the Esplanade (paddling pool) and look what happened…the council let… Read more »