Freshwater Library

Freshwater Library celebrates its 75th year

This in from the council, in their own words. Ed


Freshwater Library celebrates its 75th birthday this year and is holding a celebratory garden party later this month.

Library staff and the Friends of Freshwater Library have organised the party for Tuesday 24 June between 2 and 4pm at the library.

Refreshments will be available, with all funds raised going towards supporting the library.

History of the library
The library first opened in November 1939, and to recognise this, 1930s and 40s music will be played. Visitors will also have the chance to write down their own memories of the library, which will then be included in an exhibition about the library’s history. This exhibition will be displayed in November.

There will also be the chance to hear about the activities and events the library and the Friends group have organised over the last year, and also take the opportunity to look through scrapbooks of press cuttings from the last few decades and also read a short account of the library’s history.

Image: © Google Streetview

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Hermit
21, December 2015 6:08 pm

Thwart are very quiet on this, I would of thought at least some kind of statement from them as being against turbines they would surely be against fracking, ( maybe not as they might be right keen on fossil fuels to turn down turbines )and they have a large database of sheep, sorry followers, who could be used in a campaign.

ThomasC
Reply to  Hermit
21, December 2015 8:03 pm

This isn’t fracking, it’s conventional drilling.

LisaC
Reply to  ThomasC
21, December 2015 8:22 pm

The type of drilling has yet to be defined. The licences are for all forms of extraction. UKOG have always avoided using the F Word as they are well aware that it is bad for public relations, and there are no restrictions whatsoever on fracking in Arreton, so why wouldn’t they? A well which starts off as conventional would need to be fracked as reserves become more… Read more »

kamineko
Reply to  ThomasC
21, December 2015 10:37 pm

I’ve read the well logs from previous testing and it would be impossible to produce sufficient quantities of oil without fracking. The description of the play was “muddy”.

kyits
Reply to  ThomasC
22, December 2015 12:39 pm

This is Tight Oil, it will require fracking. From UKOG’s statement – “The Licence adds significantly to the Company’s conventional and tight oil acreage portfolio in the UK… We are also pleased to extend our pioneering Weald tight oil focus into the similar geology of the Isle of Wight… ” From Wikipedia “Tight oil is petroleum that consists of light crude oil contained in petroleum-bearing formations of… Read more »

A.Pugin
21, December 2015 6:48 pm

Let them drill on council owned land wit the proviso that the IW community gets 7% of the barrels. We might be in with a chance then. Think how we could transform Sandown etc, social care and everything else we need with a few hundred million quid. Solar farm idea is very nice in principle, but will never be able to inject the cash we need at… Read more »

LisaC
Reply to  A.Pugin
21, December 2015 10:14 pm

At exploration stage, £100,000 would be paid IF wells are hydraulically fractured (fracked). Island Roads could gobble that up in 2 days! 1% of revenue at production stage has been promised, but if it came to fruition it would not be for years and then possibly over a period of 25 years, so no speedy cash injection and certainly no where near ‘a few hundred million’ even… Read more »

Frank James
Reply to  LisaC
21, December 2015 11:34 pm

It’s costing the earth; so what?

Frank James
Reply to  A.Pugin
21, December 2015 11:55 pm

Or, with a little tinkering: “Stop drilling. We might be in with a chance then. Think how we could transform everywhere and everything else we need with a few hundred million quid spent wisely. Solar is very nice. As are able to inject the cash we need at the speed we need it for fracking, Trident, HS2, tax breaks for the wealthy, corporate welfare, etc., we could… Read more »

kyits
Reply to  A.Pugin
22, December 2015 12:46 pm

It is not a matter of drilling one neat little vertical well. The point about new drilling techniques is that they can be drilled horizontally out from a well. The problem with recovering oil/gas from tight oil sources is that output rapidly drops even after fracking and so requires more wells to be drilled to maintain out put. From wikipedia article on tight oil “…as tight-oil development… Read more »

Frank James
21, December 2015 6:54 pm

Our ‘blue crap’ government is clearly determined to harm us all by ‘cutting the green crap’ as Dave put it, just after Dave and the rest of the world’s leaders told us all that they would go green to stop harming us.

Is it fair that we still aren’t allowed to kill everyone trying to kill us?

A.Pugin
21, December 2015 6:58 pm

It is unfortunate, but if you want to invest in green energy…this is where the money comes from.

Vix Lowthion
Reply to  A.Pugin
21, December 2015 8:11 pm

What a crazy statement. Investment in Green energy is paid back over the long term – as the ‘fuel’ is in fact free. Initial start up and development costs come from a host of different sources: a combination of private investors and shareholders and government loans and grants. If oil companies are investing in renewables then that goes to show how worried they are for the longevity… Read more »

ThomasC
Reply to  Vix Lowthion
21, December 2015 8:32 pm

They’re energy businesses these days, not oil businesses.

They’re just spreading their risk – why keep all of your eggs in one basket when there are shiny new baskets to put eggs into, which might deliver many more eggs in the long term?

Frank James
Reply to  ThomasC
21, December 2015 11:42 pm

They’re still breaking eggs to make oily omelettes, when it’s time to stop being toxic.

A.Pugin
Reply to  Vix Lowthion
21, December 2015 9:39 pm

Its not free Vix-take a look at the cost of rare earth mineral mining…there would be no wind or solar without it.

kamineko
Reply to  A.Pugin
21, December 2015 10:54 pm

True, but that being said, regulation of rare earth mining is down to the places where it takes place. Unless you are willing to sign up to worldwide regulation, what you are criticising is a sovereign country’s right to exploit their resources in the way they see fit. In this particular place, I.E. the Isle of Wight, exploiting petroleum resources would place an undue burden on all… Read more »

A.Pugin
Reply to  kamineko
23, December 2015 4:11 pm

The oil reserves in Dorset (which have been in operation since the 1970s) operate in SSSIs and nature reserves, have proved to be a success with little impact on the areas that you mention.
Why should the IW economy be deprived of this industry?

Cicero
Reply to  kamineko
23, December 2015 7:52 pm

Not a good comparison to Arreton. Firstly Wytch Farm is an 18 hectare site and of the 199 wells drilled at Wytch Farm not a single one is classified as either Coalbed Methane or Shale Gas Secondly part of the Wytch Farm facilities are on Furzey Island in Poole Harbour and by definition nowhere near any residences. Other onshore facilities are surrounded by water on three sides… Read more »

ThomasC
21, December 2015 8:06 pm

It’s about every 10-20 years that someone gets a bright idea that there might be oil under the IW. They drill a hole. They then have it pointed out that the IW’s geology is several sorts of nutjobs. They go home. Only a complete idiot would frack the IOW (and I think the same comment could be levelled at those drilling), the geology is too crazy and… Read more »

Frank James
Reply to  ThomasC
22, December 2015 12:02 am

Only a complete idiot (or a dangerous greedy git) would frack after all that has just been agreed at the climate crisis talks.

A.Pugin
Reply to  ThomasC
23, December 2015 10:32 pm

Cicero, are you a geologist, historian and political savant….because that is how you portray yourself! Your frequency of postings suggests an overactive use of wikipedia and perhaps a touch of…well I just don’t know!

Ma Parting
Reply to  A.Pugin
24, December 2015 1:35 am

a touch of … cut and paste

perhaps?

Cicero
Reply to  Ma Parting
24, December 2015 10:12 am

You are probably both right! Sorry about that! :-)) I blame it on a lifetime in academic groves inculcating in me an enquiring mind and a love of research – so much easier these days with the web for a disabled person who knows how to ask the right questions. Still perhaps trying to find the truth about something is perhaps a bit better than hiding under… Read more »

A.Pugin
Reply to  Cicero
24, December 2015 1:18 pm

I rather enjoy them-keep it coming! Much better than ill informed pseudo babble.

Vix Lowthion
Reply to  Cicero
24, December 2015 1:28 pm

I’m not sure that inciting people to make personal attacks is really in keeping with the spirit of this site.

jeff
21, December 2015 8:18 pm

Oh God. Another story where Vix is going to get her soapbox out and give us all a lecture.

A.Pugin
Reply to  jeff
21, December 2015 9:49 pm

She doesn’t get the automatic support that she used to enjoy, and she is committed to five years of forensic scrutiny on here…therefore unelectable at the next election.
You and others have comented om her school mistressly lecturing of the mainstream.

A.Pugin
21, December 2015 9:15 pm

We live on blue slipper…when I walk my dog and its been raining and the ground is churned up, you can actually see the oil coming out of the ground.

Cicero
Reply to  A.Pugin
24, December 2015 2:11 pm

Not a geologist, but my impression from reading Soton Uni’s geology reports is that the frackable oil-bearing layer (Kimmeridge Blackstone?) lies several hundred metres below the Island’s Gault Clay (‘Blue Slipper”) layer.

milliard
21, December 2015 10:45 pm

200 sq km is about 60% of the Island. The image does not reflect this. Is there an offshore component?

Tanja Rebel
21, December 2015 11:18 pm

Vix has a keen eye and a bright mind and what she writes makes utter sense. So why attack her? Is it out of spite or just plain ignorance? Our planet is burning and these fat cats come here to drill every drop they can get out of the ground or frack the living daylight out if it – is that sensible or just plain ignorant? I… Read more »

Oldie
Reply to  Tanja Rebel
22, December 2015 10:08 am

How will you resist it Tanja?

jeff
Reply to  Tanja Rebel
22, December 2015 12:08 pm

Tanja. I am a sensible, well educated person and am quite capable of researching and making up my own mind on a number of topics. Whilst I may / may not agree with a number of items of the green party agenda I am completely turned off by the constant barrage of ‘broken record’ comments from Vix. She, of course, has her democratic right to add her… Read more »

Vix Lowthion
Reply to  jeff
22, December 2015 8:27 pm

How many times have I posted in the last week? ‘Constant barrage’? I would take your point if I was hammering on about Green issues on several threads and shouting into the ether. In reality I have commented once on this thread about oil in Arreton, as is my right and anyone else’s right to do so. Feel free to take issue with the content of what… Read more »

yjc
22, December 2015 11:30 am

Hermit – THWART stands for THE WIGHT AGAINST RURAL TURBINES.

Therefore the clue is in their name. Not fracking, not oil, not gas, but TURBINES!

Tanja Rebel
22, December 2015 11:47 am

To Oldie,

Through peaceful protest, non,-cooperation, petitions, demonstrations and above all the spreading of information. Or did Paris mean nothing at all?

It would also help if this Council dare declare the Island frack-free. Others Councils have done so, it is possible. They had a vote, but as many Councillors abstained, I suggest they hold one again…

Geoff Lumley
Reply to  Tanja Rebel
22, December 2015 3:03 pm

Tanya. Get your local councillor to propose it

bigj
Reply to  Tanja Rebel
23, December 2015 10:10 am

Correct.
Paris (global warming summit)did mean nothing.

Do remember that the less we use the more that is left for America to burn.
Then check out the fossil fuel usage per capita.

Cicero
22, December 2015 1:10 pm

“What is very important for all of our stakeholders to fully appreciate is that UKOG takes a holistic view of the costs and benefits of Britain’s onshore oil and gas resources. We will always respect the views and opinions of our community stakeholders. We welcome these opinions and will aim to take them into account as best we can.” (per UKOG website) Yep! Right! Like we can… Read more »

Iona Jelf
22, December 2015 2:08 pm

This news is shocking. Would others be up for taking action?

LisaC
Reply to  Iona Jelf
22, December 2015 10:15 pm

Frack Free Isle of Wight are holding a public meeting on Saturday 16th January, 10am-2pm at the Unitarian Meeting House, 9a High St, Newport (Opposite County Hall) All welcome so feel free to attend.

bigj
Reply to  LisaC
23, December 2015 10:08 am

Bring a candle – prevents the need for electric lighting, powered by fossil fuels. Wear a coat – the heating will be off, in order to preserve the fossil fuels. Please only attend if you are able to use fossil fuel free transport – your two feet. Alternatively stay at home and speak to your reflection in the mirror. Oh and do make sure your Christmas lights… Read more »

Vix Lowthion
Reply to  bigj
23, December 2015 11:18 am

I don’t think you get it. Progressive generation of energy isn’t about fossil fuel or nothing, or renewables or nothing. It’s about a gradual move towards more renewable sources – which this government is failing to invest in.

Everyone is welcome at the drop in to find out more – however you are able to get to Newport.

Tim
22, December 2015 5:08 pm

Green Energy needs to be treated with caution, particularly if you input a greater amount of fossil fuel just to receive a lesser amount of renewable energy in return. Especially when related infrastructures such as sub-stations, power cables etc. are taken into account. It would be a terrible shame if all those feed tariffs that we consumers are compelled to pay resulted in environmental cost rather than… Read more »

kyits
Reply to  Tim
22, December 2015 5:43 pm

The point about ‘green energy’ is that the ‘fuel’ costs for wind, wave, tidal and solar are zero and there is zero CO2 output from the fuel. Yes it costs to build the infrastructure to go with it, as does any energy source, but at least there are none of the deferred costs of global climate change caused by the CO2 out put of all fossil fuels.… Read more »

Tim
Reply to  kyits
22, December 2015 10:57 pm

I think that you may have missed the point. Without FIT’s green energy probably wouldn’t exist in this country. This rather implies that without the positive inputs of fossil derivatives you won’t get anything out. I would be much happier to see green energy stand on its own merits in a free market place, then at least you would know that you really are addressing the CO2… Read more »

Tanja Rebel
22, December 2015 11:31 pm

To Jeff: Vuvuzela’s do indeed make a whole lot of noise. Vix’s comments, however, are sensible and far-reaching in that they take into account the long-term consequences of our actions. As this is not the case with modern-day politicians, I believe it is warranted that the message be repeated until it finally sinks in… Having said that, Vix’s comments are not an “endless barrage” – they are… Read more »

bigj
Reply to  Tanja Rebel
23, December 2015 10:13 am

Vuvuzelas are out of date and so are some of the comments that you support.
We NEED electricity, unless you have a pedal powered P.C.?

Brian N
Reply to  bigj
23, December 2015 12:50 pm

I dont think anyone has claimed that we dont need electricity. What people are saying is that renewable electricity is preferable to using fossil fuels. Wind up PCs are actually used in some areas without electrical distribution networks (or ‘wires’ if you prefer…) There is no reason why most people cant have solar panels on their roof, which reduces reliance on the grid and fossil fuel electricity.… Read more »

Tim
Reply to  Brian N
23, December 2015 2:36 pm

I agree, there is no need to travel to conferences such as COP21 when video conferencing is a viable environmentally friendly alternative. E
specially if it involves travelling by aircraft which dump CO2 in the worst possible place, the upper atmosphere.

Cicero
Reply to  Tim
24, December 2015 3:27 pm

Nice idea but perhaps ignores human nature. Many decades ago, I was involved in an experiment to cut down staff travelling between two sites a couple of hundred of miles apart by installing CCTV and video conferencing suites. It failed- people still travelled for social reasons and to have an excuse to get out of the office for a couple of days. This is even more likely… Read more »

Cicero
Reply to  Tim
24, December 2015 7:57 pm

Let;s test CCTV vs actual presence.. :-)’ You need to attend a conference on, say, Setting up and Running and Alternative Energy source. You have three choices: A. Just observe it from your desk via CCTV/Skype. B. Attend the conference in (say) Hull and arrange your own accommodation. C. Personally attend the conference in Hotel Don Carlos in Marbella on the Costa del Sol. How many OTW… Read more »

bill
Reply to  Tanja Rebel
24, December 2015 2:55 pm

So to summarise.
Vuvuzelas are annoying
We don’t all agree with Vix and Tanja.
We have 600 plus politicians who disagree with the green party.
We are going to be bullied by the green party spokespeople until we agree with them.
Vix’s ramblings are to the point.
We should all be clones of Vix.

Dans le tours le poisson dans le luge.

A.Pugin
23, December 2015 2:45 pm

This will end up being a decision of central government based on national security. Yes green energy is needed, wanted and available but over the years, campaigning groups such as our very own thwart and the like have hampered our chances to get the % share in renewables that we require. Energy use has sky rocketed during the digital age amd will continue to rise even further.… Read more »

Tanja Rebel
24, December 2015 7:11 pm

And I say chill: It is true that energy use is an issue, but that is where we all need to start taking more responsibility. We need to urge our Government to put back subsidies for house insulation, solar and cooperate energy schemes. Above all, we urgently need a Carbon Tax. That would wean us off fossil fuels pretty quickly and turn out attention away from methods… Read more »

Tanja Rebel
24, December 2015 7:16 pm

To Bill: Not clones, but thinking people who look well beyond this generation and who take into consideration non-human species. If the 600 or so poor bullied politicians that you refer to did this, then we would have a system where every economic decision takes into account the ecological impact. What a change it would be…

bill
Reply to  Tanja Rebel
24, December 2015 8:27 pm

Yeah right. I’m going to give up my electricity so someone’s cat can have a better life.

Brian N
Reply to  bill
24, December 2015 11:36 pm

I’ve had enough of this.

Everyone, try exercising some common sense.

No-one is suggesting you give up electricity.

No-one is suggesting you must agree with everything they say.

Grow up, and try realising that other people have opinions too, and they are just as valid as yours.

Or carry on being a complete p****, I dont really care.

bill
Reply to  Brian N
26, December 2015 11:48 am

You must have known you were getting new toys for Christmas seeing as you’ve thrown your old ones out of the pram.

Brian N
Reply to  bill
26, December 2015 12:17 pm

What exactly do you gain by trying to wind people up?

Go be a troll somewhere else. Or stop being a troll altogether – you’re not very good at it.

BRIAN
Reply to  Tanja Rebel
25, December 2015 7:52 am

I note your post is timed at 7.16pm. I assume therefore you are typing by candlelight having charged your device by daylight earlier. Perhaps you have a windmill on your house converting DC current into AC.

On the occasions when you travel to the mainland, I assume you row across rather then encourage the fuel consumption of dirty diesel ferries.

Tanja Rebel
25, December 2015 10:28 am

To the Brian who thinks I wrote by candlelight: By the time of writing I had no light on at all. We use far more electric light than we need, to the point that it has almost become an addiction. When travelling to the mainland I either go as a pedestrian or with a bike and them train, very rarely by car. However, it is not about… Read more »

Cicero
Reply to  Tanja Rebel
25, December 2015 11:01 am

Candles eh? What is the EROEI on killing sperm whales to make candles from their spermaceti give the carbon cost of catching, killing and processing the whales??

The nearest UK Green policy on whale preservation seems to be AR409 but is not specific.

A.Pugin
Reply to  Tanja Rebel
26, December 2015 5:53 pm

You are actually trying to convince us that you sit in the dark? Wow
Corbyn and Lucas will be walking across the Solent, held aloft by God’s left hand soon to save us all.

Help us all

Tanja Rebel
25, December 2015 11:44 am

Candles can be beeswax.

There is a carbon cost to everything. That is why it needs to be taxed. It is the only effective way to get us to use more responsible sources. Above all, whatever it is we use, let’s use it sparingly.

Cicero
Reply to  Tanja Rebel
25, December 2015 2:09 pm

…. among other things..

Common Characteristics of All Types of Candle Wax

Regardless of whether the origin of the candle wax is petroleum, animal or vegetable, all candle waxes share several common characteristics.

Basically hydrocarbons have chemical compositions that are similar but different

Cicero
Reply to  Cicero
25, December 2015 2:13 pm

The most popular type of candle wax used today is paraffin wax.

A.Pugin
25, December 2015 9:51 pm

I use ear wax

Cicero
Reply to  A.Pugin
26, December 2015 9:17 am

Doesn’t the flame hurt your ear and set your hair on fire? :-))

A.Pugin
26, December 2015 10:03 am

Not any more!

Cicero
Reply to  A.Pugin
26, December 2015 11:10 am

Yep! My hairdresser is has threatened to charge a search fee in future as well! :-))

Tanja Rebel
26, December 2015 6:11 pm

To A.Pugin, what I am trying to say is that I didn’t need more light than from my device as it was more than sufficient at the time. In other words, we should only use light/energy when we need it. This way we show solidarity with others who have less and we show consideration towards the planet. Win-win!

A.Pugin
26, December 2015 7:21 pm

A few months ago you were complaining about the wrong type of light after IW council finally went energy efficient and installed led street lighting….are you photophobic?

Tanja Rebel
26, December 2015 10:38 pm

Dear A.Pugin: Energy efficiency is good, installing the wrong colour spectrum is not. As I have explained again and again, the lights need to be warm-white, not cool-white. Cool-white LED is blue-rich and upsets our circadian rhythms, wildlife and the view of the night sky as the white lights give off glare. Finally, it is less good for road safety. Kindly study the subject a bit further… Read more »

Tanja Rebel
26, December 2015 10:43 pm
simonnicholas
26, December 2015 11:27 pm

Dear A.Pugin. Whilst there is nothing inherently wrong with using LED technology for lighting, the problem for residents and the wider environment on IoW is that IWC’s PFI partner Island Roads have chosen to install the most environmentally-toxic blue-rich LEDs with a Cool White CCT of 5700K. As Ms Rebel rightly says, there is an increasing body of peer-reviewed scientific research which shows that blue-rich LED lighting… Read more »

CERS121
27, December 2015 11:40 am

I am nowhere near as informed as Tanja or Simon on this subject so I’m speaking from my own personal experience and that of some of my neighbours, I tried to stop these glaring bright LED lamps from being installed close to my house, as I’m aware enough to know they are a danger to health. We used to have a lovely golden glow light that lit… Read more »

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