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Isle of Wight 2010 Election Results And Speeches (Podcast)

Simon Perry·

The live video that we did of the reading of the election results by the Isle of Wight’s High Sheriff, Peter Kingston, dropped in and out a little, due to a lack of broadband in the hall.

Isle of Wight 2010 Election Results And Speeches (Podcast)To fill in the detail, below is the audio recording we took of all of the results and the speeches given by each of the candidates.

[audio:http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4663767/Audio/2010-election-results-being-announced.mp3]

The video is below too …

Image: Alex Varley-Winter

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all fingers and thumbs
7, May 2010 8:05 am

Ha ha Turner turns to shake hands…no one does. Billy no mates x They did clap mind you….all very polite on the Wight

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Island Shocker
Reply to  all fingers and thumbs
9, May 2010 10:25 am

The PR cry babies overlook one vital point. In any seat in the land there was a LibDem candidate. In fact the electorate had a good choice of candidates and they chose to elect more Tory Mp’s than any other. This simple fact means you get a Tory Government fairly elected. Only losers and minority party people want PR, ‘the tail that wags the dog.’ The easy… Read more »

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N0.5
Reply to  Island Shocker
9, May 2010 10:57 am

Again ..(and again) you get it wrong. You start ofok..the Tories gotmore seats andmore votes than any other single party. But this does notmake themthe winner. The Rules are very clear and have been for 150 years. You have to have a majority over the other parties to win. Currently that is 326. If you don’t reach 326 YOU HAVE WON NOTHING. A Tory government has not… Read more »

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Mr Justice
Reply to  N0.5
9, May 2010 11:56 am

I think you will find N05 that it is entirely possible for the Conservatives to Govern with as many seats as thy have. All they need is a little cooperation from a handful of Mp’s and that will be enough. They have won – it’s just you Tory haters can’t accept it:) A combined Labour – Lib Government would still not have enough Mp’s to get anything… Read more »

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Earl Grey
Reply to  Mr Justice
9, May 2010 2:29 pm

Mr Justice, I fail to understand how you are so accepting of the current electoral system that always allows a minority of voters to grab the majority of power? You would find it unacceptable if 36% of MPs was enough to force through all legislation in Parliament. I think you are angry with your leader for not delivering victory and with the voters for exercising their democratic… Read more »

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N0.5
Reply to  Mr Justice
9, May 2010 2:37 pm

You really don’t understand the electoral system do you…THEY HAVE NOT WON and will not win without finding allies..Traditionally that would be the DUP..but they lost a several shock seats to the Alliance.

All electoral systems have thereplus and minus points. FPTP is favoured because it suits constiuency politics the best..but has probably the most failings.

All the PR systems have failings too

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Catfink
7, May 2010 8:16 am

Just like to say (and i’m sure others will agree!) thanks to VB for all the election coverage. It has been very interesting and informative. Great job!

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Leonard
7, May 2010 8:51 am

Is anbody else frustrated by the poor turnout – 1 in 3 of those who were eligible to vote didn’t. I wouldn’t call that fair, even if some call it democratic…:(

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Mike
Reply to  Leonard
7, May 2010 9:05 am

I know its a situation that happens in all general elections but surely something has to change when the party with the most seats still only polls 37%(est) of the vote.What happens to the other 63%(est)who are in effect defranchised?

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N0.5
Reply to  Leonard
7, May 2010 9:37 am

Turnout was 63.9% – 70,264 voters…thats nearly two thirds

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Mr Justice
Reply to  N0.5
7, May 2010 4:49 pm

And almost half of them voted for Andrew Turner!

Congratulations – you rose above the nasty mutterings and nailed it. A good result. Unlike some of the Liberal Democrats I have met, I wish you well.

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N0.5
Reply to  Mr Justice
7, May 2010 4:53 pm

You can’t argue with the numbers…I expected AT to win by a couple of thousand.

Who will AT’s replacemnet be now the Tories have been returned?

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Mr Justice
Reply to  N0.5
7, May 2010 5:03 pm

Nasty Nasty. He’ll be there next time too is my bet, want to take it nasty man?

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Earl Grey
Reply to  N0.5
8, May 2010 1:33 pm

However worth noting that while the Tories enjoyed a 5 % swing nationally, AT had a swing of 2.2 % away from him to the Lib Dems. The AT magic may be waning!

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islebeseeingyou
Reply to  N0.5
8, May 2010 2:01 pm

@Earl Grey, I would not read too much into the swing of 2.2 to the Liberals on the Island. This may well have been caused by the tactical votes of No.5 and the like.

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Davey Jones
Reply to  N0.5
8, May 2010 2:05 pm

Maybe the tactical voting own goal or maybe debate 3 didn’t effect the island like it did everywhere else.Go figure.

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Don Smith
Reply to  Mr Justice
9, May 2010 6:17 am

The island and the CP have spoken – Well done.

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Ron
Reply to  Don Smith
9, May 2010 9:52 pm

Earl Grey, Have a closer look at the figures and you will see that Andrew Turner increased his vote. The swing to the Lib Dem came solely from the Labour vote!! Clearly, Tactical voting by Labour supporters to keep No 10. Fortunately, it failed miserably!!

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Mr Justice
Reply to  Leonard
9, May 2010 7:35 pm

Yes, No5 is very frustrated by it.

Under the system we have enjoyed for 150 years WE WON!

Any alternative system is flawed, so best stick with what we have. All 650 constituencies offered a free choice, the Conservatives got the most seats and won.

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N0.5
Reply to  Mr Justice
9, May 2010 10:50 pm

…pleeeaaseee…To win you need 326 seats…did the Tories get them…NO

The Tories failed to beat the most hatedgovernment (man) in recent times.. and now have togo cap in hand to the LIBdems.

Mr. Justice…you are either continuing you spin on the sibject or are not very bright.

I think its your old spin

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Mr Justice
Reply to  N0.5
9, May 2010 10:58 pm

Sorry to Labour my point (geddit?) but we did win – we got the most seats.

We didn’t win a straight majority, but as I keep telling you N05, Gordon is leaving, call me Dave will be in Downing Street within 48hrs like it, or in your case, not! :)

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Anna
Reply to  Mr Justice
9, May 2010 11:02 pm

Under first past the post, no majority, no win. Legally, morally – you haven’t won. That’s why the news keeps saying “hung parliament” and not “Conservative win”. That’s why you’re having to chat up Nick Clegg, who’s proving alarmingly easy to please! The scent of leather in the ministerial car must be tempting.

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N0.5
Reply to  Mr Justice
9, May 2010 11:34 pm

Not a chance in hell

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zoiner
Reply to  Mr Justice
10, May 2010 7:07 pm

Half right!

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N0.5
Reply to  Mr Justice
10, May 2010 7:16 pm

keep watching..referendum on Electoral reform and a ministerial post for Clegg…For Labour that is

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Anna
Reply to  Mr Justice
9, May 2010 10:57 pm

I’m just wondering why if your slogan is “WE WON!!” you’re still sat arguing the toss now with the Lib Dems? Bit of a strange victory to be begging Nick Clegg for support – and strange for those poor deluded tactical voters who voted Lib Dem to keep the Tories out only to find their votes are keeping the Tories in! What a strange old world. And… Read more »

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Mr Justice
Reply to  Anna
9, May 2010 11:02 pm

Lots of bitter and twisted Socialists, now we have bleating Lib Dems too. Why not worry about your own failure to break through? Despite the hype you LOST seats. My advice; get rid of Clegg, ditch the immigration amnesty, the jealous taxation policies, the euro, and back trident, who knows, call me Dave may well let you play with the big boys. For a while at least.… Read more »

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Anna
Reply to  Mr Justice
9, May 2010 11:07 pm

It’s a rather confused response there – not sure if it is aimed at my reply to your comment or not. For the record, I am certainly not a Lib Dem!!! God forbid.

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N0.5
Reply to  Mr Justice
9, May 2010 11:33 pm

and what you advice to the Tories to enable them to win….because if they don’t plea bargain with the LIbDems…be sure Labour will…

AND THEN LABOUR WINS and you become a laughing stock

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Don Smith
Reply to  Mr Justice
10, May 2010 10:59 am

With all the press and other media supporting the Tory Party they could not lose. With wealth! Money calls the tune. However, they must be disappointed that they did not have an overall majority. Success! That is failure. Andrew got less votes than there were posters all over the IoW, at what cost? Clegg will sell his sole to the Tory Party and I feel it only… Read more »

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N0.5
Reply to  Anna
9, May 2010 11:34 pm

excellent post

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hazel wyld
Reply to  N0.5
10, May 2010 7:46 am

If the two losers end up running the country it will be a disgrace and we should all be demanding another vote…we are already the laughing stock of the world according to my USA and OZ contacts who just see Conservative winning and all the rest of the argument ridiculous.

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No.5
Reply to  N0.5
10, May 2010 9:56 am

well you know you can tell your American friends that they have the same FPTP electoral system as us.

Theres not two loosers there are Three..its just the Tories lost by less.

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John
7, May 2010 9:45 am

Well done Andrew Turner.

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Don Smith
Reply to  John
10, May 2010 10:46 am

Yes! Well done Andrew. Andrew Turner received a resounding 10.000 + majority and one must admit that it was not the candidate that won, but his very wealthy and organized campaign; that majority is going to take some very hard work to overturn. However, the islanders have spoken and the result of the election must be respected. He received the same number of votes as there are… Read more »

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Island Shocker
Reply to  Don Smith
10, May 2010 10:55 am

Another sore loser? If you really think the roadside posters influenced an extra 10,000 people to vote for Turner you’re ……….. ……… (fill in your own words here.) The Tory party will never give Clegg PR, not even in the Lords. The Libs have been in the wilderness for 35 years and more, that is why they want PR. Cameron is not on his knees, Clegg must… Read more »

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Wendy V
7, May 2010 10:13 am

Why’s the Middle England party got a big ad in the CP today (p33), the day AFTER the election? (Scratches head.)

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Catfink
Reply to  Wendy V
7, May 2010 10:50 am

Maybe they are starting their next election campaign (groan!)?

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Shobba
7, May 2010 12:45 pm

Well done VB. Great election coverage – you made it far more interesting. Where do I send the cheque?

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Reply to  Shobba
7, May 2010 5:17 pm

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Steephill Jack
7, May 2010 1:15 pm

I hope the “girls” in Turner’s office appreciate the thanks they got, but maybe they’re all old enough not to notice that he’s in a time-warp.

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Kelly
7, May 2010 4:42 pm

Thanks to all of the yuppies & snobs who have landed us with conservatives again!!! Do enjoy your holiday homes while the people who acctually live here suffer!!!

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Mr Justice
7, May 2010 4:46 pm

Without the second home owners the economy here would be even worse than it already is. What exactly is a ‘snob’ dear? Gordon Brown is clearly going to need his fingers lifted as he clings on shamelessly to the keys of Downing St. This very sad man should return to Fife where they so obviously like him. He’ll have to accept that no-one else feels the same… Read more »

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Mr T
Reply to  Mr Justice
7, May 2010 4:49 pm

I think he’s gone too Mr J.

You were predicting a Tory landslide on here pre-election.

Given the amount spent (3X as much as other parties) and the majority of the media supporting Cameron, what do you think went wrong with the Tory campaign?

Too vague? Not vague enough?

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N0.5
Reply to  Mr Justice
7, May 2010 4:49 pm

and still spinning

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Don Smith
Reply to  N0.5
9, May 2010 6:20 am

Jolly good show – now let them sort out the mess.
A pay rise is now due:-)

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Mr Justice
7, May 2010 4:52 pm

Over 100 seats won, losses for Liberals and Labour, it was a great result, the best for 70 years. Sensible pundits knew it couldn’t happen in one go. The system does not favour Tory wins, but we will be the new Government.

I suspect Mrs Gordon has already ordered the tea chests and booked a lorry to Scotland.

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N0.5
Reply to  Mr Justice
7, May 2010 4:55 pm

I wouldn’t bet your house on it yet.

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Mr T
Reply to  Mr Justice
7, May 2010 7:26 pm

It was only the best Tory result for so many years because the Tory party itself had sunk to such lows. They spent more than ever, had more media support than ever, were apparently (according to them) up against the worst government ever, and still no majority? I asked you why the landslide you yourself predicted didn’t happen Mr J. I take it from your comments you… Read more »

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Kelly
7, May 2010 4:54 pm

Quote “Bye Bye Gordon. Thanks for the £23,000 of debt you left me and everyone else with.”

The debt isn’t all down to the government is it they bailed out the banks 1bn due to idiots spending money they couldn’t repay.

I don’t support labour but i would have prefered them to conservatives don’t you remember the 80’s???

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islebeseeingyou
Reply to  Kelly
7, May 2010 7:38 pm

Yes I remember the 80’s. We were broke but worked hard to keep our heads above water, pay the mortgage, pay the school fees and make 500g mince go 4 days. What did it teach me? Don’t expect others to bail you out, we had no holidays, didn’t eat out but it instilled values. My kids took on those values and have never claimed students grants, dole… Read more »

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Leonard
Reply to  islebeseeingyou
7, May 2010 9:39 pm

Islebeseeingyou… I must protest! You say that you remember the 80’s, but your account doesn’t fit with my memory: “We… …worked hard to keep our heads above water, pay the mortgage, pay the school fees and make 500g mince go 4 days.” I can’t believe you struggled to pay school fees AND make mince go 4 days! Most of us at school in the 80’s weren’t (un)fortunate… Read more »

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Davey Jones
Reply to  Kelly
8, May 2010 3:12 pm

Jesus wept Kelly, “don’t you remember the 80s”.If more of us concentrated on constructively backing a credible opposition (when we get one main streamed)to the Island Tories rather than fighting off the back of “I’ve always hated Tories, remember Thatcher etc” we might get somewhere. You might as well press a self-destruct button. A few of us remember the second world war but that doesn’t mean we… Read more »

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Ron
Reply to  Kelly
9, May 2010 10:03 pm

Yes kelly, I remember the 80’s when the Tories had to clean up the mess Labour always, always creates when it is in power. This is just history repeating itself. It will take the next decade for the Tories to clear up again and people like you will blame them for the difficult decisions!! Labour are just a disaster whenever they get into power.

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Mr Justice
Reply to  Ron
9, May 2010 11:07 pm

Labour have no idea, the City smart boys ran rings around them just like they always do and Gordon couldn’t stop praising them. What a fool. ‘The worst PM in history’ – so said one of his own candidates. How we all chuckled. This was one of the many highlights of the disastrous Labour campaign. Labour out of office for 10 -20 years now, plenty of time… Read more »

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Anna
Reply to  Mr Justice
9, May 2010 11:16 pm

Vince Cable is (according to your post) a buffoon, Gordon Brown an idiot. Gosh you must be a clever chap!! I can’t wait for your views on the 12 year old George Osborne, the man who openly called for Northern Rock to be put into administration (without seeming to understand the legal impact that would have on its savers and mortgage holder let alone the markets. He… Read more »

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Mr Justice
7, May 2010 5:01 pm

Labour have ruled since 1997 with far fewer votes than the Tory party just got. You can’t have it both ways. Labours failures did for the banks – they are responsible for that and horrendous public spending and waste. It wasn’t just banks. We were first into recession and last out, look at the markets, they’re in panic mode, just in case Gordon stays put with his… Read more »

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Earl Grey
Reply to  Mr Justice
8, May 2010 10:46 am

A good arguement then for electoral reform, our system allows a minority of voters (either Tories or Labour) to run the show, that is not democracy. I hardly think the Lib Dems got ‘hammered’, ok they lost a few seats but the % of the vote went up. On the banking issue you seem to have a very short memory both Labour and the Tories had led… Read more »

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Earl Grey
Reply to  Earl Grey
8, May 2010 10:52 am

Forgot to add about panic on the markets has nothing to do with the election, the markets had factored in a hung parliament weeks ago. It is all about the Euro and the problems in Greece, Spain, etc.

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No.5
Reply to  Earl Grey
8, May 2010 1:09 pm

and the BNP lost every seat it was contesting in Local election.

It just proves that Labour in power at local level is the most popular…I hope we discover this for ourselves soon

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No.5
Reply to  Mr Justice
8, May 2010 1:02 pm

They were all so wrong….but it is Nick Clegg and the Liberal Democrats who will decisde who wins this election…so not such failures after all.

And when the LibDems realise that they cannot deal with Tories (who could) They will turn to Labour and it’ll be bye bye Cameron, bye Bye Brown hallo LibLab pact.

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Mr Justice
Reply to  No.5
8, May 2010 6:58 pm

No5 you are wrong again. Clegg isn’t a winner. His party will never let him do a deal with the Tory party without PR and that is impossible. He can’t do a deal with Labour either because they lost and have no mandate. He’s in an impossible situation, some victory! Cameron won, he WILL be PM, leading a minority government supported by a few small parties. Only… Read more »

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N0.5
Reply to  Mr Justice
8, May 2010 7:11 pm

I agree..I don’t think the Tories will play ball. But a Labour Party without Brown will..then its bye bye Tories until next time

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muso-activator
Reply to  Mr Justice
10, May 2010 4:56 pm

could be liblab yet comrade. heheh

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Earl Grey
Reply to  Mr Justice
8, May 2010 5:13 pm

Mr Justice, a slight correction to your statement the Tories have only managed to poll more votes this time than Labour in 2005. In both 1997 and 2001 Labour got more votes than the Tories.

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Don Smith
Reply to  Mr Justice
9, May 2010 6:24 am

The Tory Party won – Let them get on with it.
Nick Clegg for PM:-)

He must hold out for PR or he will get a hammering at the next election which is not far away – October 2010 mi thinks.

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No.5
Reply to  Don Smith
9, May 2010 11:22 am

The Tory Party did not win

Sigh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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islebeseeingyou
Reply to  No.5
9, May 2010 11:40 am

Nor did Alex Salmond but listening to him you would think he holds the balance of power. Why can’t this little scot keep out of it and let those that are trying get some stability into what is happening.

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Paul Randle-Jolliffe
7, May 2010 6:03 pm

It looks like electoral reform is on the agenda, with one bit being equal number of electors in each area, for the Isle of Wight this would mean the Island Being split and a part being linked with Hampshire, this will not work, I would propose the Island should instead have two MPs in one constituency. We each get two votes to choose two MPs. If we… Read more »

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Earl Grey
Reply to  Paul Randle-Jolliffe
8, May 2010 1:24 pm

Paul, a simpler option would be the two highest polling candidates getting elected.

How can it be fair that Jill Wareham polls more voters (in some cases 5,000 more) than many winning candidates in other constituencies?

It suits the Tories to defend the status quo.

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Shobba
7, May 2010 6:13 pm

Double the Mp’s double the cost surely. Why not make every constituency the same size as ours? PR not for me I’m afraid. First past the post serves us well, we need to know who were voting for. If we want ’em out we have a way of doing it. I also hate the idea that 50 odd Liberals or 10 Scots Nats will keep calling the… Read more »

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steve s
Reply to  Shobba
8, May 2010 8:55 am

Well, they’re going to. And that’s with a first past the post system which ‘serves us well’!

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Mr Justice
Reply to  steve s
8, May 2010 9:42 am

But two things are clear; That the Conservatives won more votes and seats than any other party by far. That PR would mean this confusion and behind closed doors dealing was what happened after every election. I think call me Dave needs to be tough on the Liberals. If they cannot agree, then he should insist on another election. Perhaps then people would come to their senses… Read more »

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No.5
Reply to  Mr Justice
8, May 2010 10:38 am

The Labour offer will be better. Brown goes, Millichip becomes PM, Cable become Chancellor

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Mr Justice
Reply to  No.5
8, May 2010 7:06 pm

Cable is a buffoon. He has no idea how to run an economy. Have you seen his Capital Gains Tax ideas? No-one would ever invest in anything, they would move their money offshore. Thankfully he wont ever get the chance. George Osbourne will be Chancellor next week, with Ken Clarke helping behind the scenes.

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Zoiner
Reply to  No.5
8, May 2010 8:04 pm

George thingy couldn’t run a whelk stall (even if he knew what one was) Clark has to be the puppet master if the are going to get anything right.

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hazel wyld
Reply to  No.5
8, May 2010 9:25 pm

You seem to be overlooking the simple fact that a Lib/Lab pact would still not have a majority!!

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N0.5
Reply to  No.5
8, May 2010 10:12 pm

But Brown (or whoever) is still the PM he could choose to run with a minority government, or bring in the Alliance, PC or SNP

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No.5
Reply to  Mr Justice
8, May 2010 1:06 pm

It wil never happen…but PR would not mean this confusion everytime. Parties would already know who they would work with in all eventualities before the vote. Parties like the Tories and teh DUP and possibley the SNP would have this all sorted out in advance and Labour, libDems, would and Greens etc would also already be allied. But it will never happen The voting reforms will not… Read more »

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Earl Grey
Reply to  No.5
8, May 2010 9:43 pm

Mr Justice, I can not believe you think that George Osborne, someone who has never had a proper job outside politics is better qualified to run the economy than Vince Cable, a trained economist and someone who has actually had a life outside politics.

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tick the box
7, May 2010 8:54 pm

Did you catch channel 4’s Dispatches on the election? All about how much your vote actually counts when factors like number of constituents, safe and marginal seats are looked at. In a very safe seat like IOW your vote is less than 0.5% marginal seats were worth over 3% in deciding over all results. I may be a little slow on the up take but it isn’t… Read more »

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Island Shocker
7, May 2010 9:56 pm

Sorry tick the box, this is not a ‘very safe’ seat, it was a Lib seat until Andrew Turner took it from the unpopular Peter Brand. Any fair minded individual would conclude that a decent offering from Nick Clegg and a better local candidate may well have taken it back again. Knowing they didn’t have either, some local Lib’s were reduced to rubbishing Turner, by trying to… Read more »

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fat boy fat
7, May 2010 10:49 pm

Am I on my own in thinking some of the independents made a lot of sense,and why did the B.N.P poll over a 1000 votes help!!!!!!!!!!!

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The Big O
Reply to  fat boy fat
8, May 2010 12:06 pm

I wouldn’t worry too much about the BNP – looking at the weird lot of them that turned up on the night they wont get nowhere near as much again.

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No.5
Reply to  The Big O
8, May 2010 12:57 pm

don’t worry at all about the BNP, they polled about 2% which is the national average.

And Unilever will bankrupt them next week.

Following their awful awful election results they may very well end up clearing out all the deadwood and could possible have the basis or a real national party

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Earl Grey
Reply to  No.5
8, May 2010 1:19 pm

I agree with you No 5, this election will be seen as the high water mark of the BNP.

They don’t impress the voters at national level and their record at local level has seen them pushed right back.

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Nothing to lose
Reply to  The Big O
8, May 2010 1:28 pm

Yes BNP had its chance but lost all 12 local seats at the Barking election. And their Leader was snubbed too. I did read they gained 2 local seats else where but can’t remember where! However they did poll more voted than I thought they would get. Interesting to see what happens now, road to nowhere for them I think. The Big O – I’m uncomfortable with… Read more »

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N0.5
Reply to  Nothing to lose
8, May 2010 4:04 pm

NO ..they won no seats anywhere a big fat zero. The only BNP councillors left are thos in seats that weren’t contested, 22 of the nationwide

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Nothing to lose again
Reply to  N0.5
11, May 2010 8:15 am

I did say I couldn’t remember where I had heard it so its quite clear that I was a little unsure. Typing in CAPITALS was really helpful No5 and not patronizing nor unnecessary at all. Gee thanks, if only we were all as wise as you…..

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Benny
8, May 2010 3:54 pm

You lot must your heads examined. Vote for Change so why keep that loser Andrew Turner. Cant think what he does for the island . Lines his own pocket with expenses and gets back in. Oh well doom and gloom again.

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Davey Jones
Reply to  Benny
8, May 2010 4:22 pm

Yawn………….

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Ron
Reply to  Benny
9, May 2010 10:13 pm

Doh Benny, We had these silly comments days ago, please try to keep up.

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N0.5
8, May 2010 7:09 pm

Well I’m looking forward to spinning some records tomorrow at the Winter Gardens to get over the politics

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No.5
9, May 2010 11:25 am

An explanation of our voting system and the various PR systems (there are about 9 of them) are on my site at

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&ref=nf&gid=111750632182397#!/topic.php?uid=111750632182397&topic=87

Which is now called Politics on the Isle of Wight

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gordon and david
9, May 2010 4:47 pm

Gordon yes David am I going to be Prime Minister.No David only if Nick says so.

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Benny
10, May 2010 5:08 am

Who is this Mr Justice bloke. Sounds like one of those i’ve got nothing better to do people that used to go go on the Alex Dyke phone in. Slate the Libs all you like but its the Conservatives who are crawling all over them to get their much needed seats to win this election. Unfortunately for me it means a Labour vote next time if thats… Read more »

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Mr Justice
10, May 2010 9:26 am

You know call me Dave is going to promise Nick very little for an awful lot. How amusing that you party member types are so unhappy about it :) It proves to me that you are ME ME ME types not willing to put Country ahead of narrow selfish party politics. This makes you unfit to Govern, not that you ever will. This is a crisis, someone… Read more »

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Earl Grey
Reply to  Mr Justice
10, May 2010 7:15 pm

Let’s be clear when Mr Justice refers to national interest or the Country he is refering to the Tory Party. They have always been the party of the Me Me Me types. This new politics is about inclusion and compromise, it is about talking and negociating with political opponents, something that Tories feel is below them, but something the voters demanded last Thursday. Finally let us not… Read more »

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hazel wyld
Reply to  Mr Justice
10, May 2010 9:30 pm

Although my first re-action to a possible lib/lab deal was fury that the two losers could form a goverment and I quote John Reid himself a labour man here number five, my second thought is bearing in mind Labour have left the country in such a mess maybe they deserve to clean it up! Then next time the tories can have an overwheming majority instead of having… Read more »

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Don Smith
Reply to  hazel wyld
10, May 2010 10:00 pm

I am sure that Cameron wants to be PM more than anything else, he will give the Lib/Dems even more concessions. PR for sure. and a referendum on it as well. Watch this thread!

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N0.5
10, May 2010 5:19 pm

I love it when a plan comes together.

Brown is out…now for the Lib Lab pact.

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Daniel Clarke
Reply to  N0.5
10, May 2010 9:11 pm

About time to. He should of resigned on friday and david cameron should be PM by now!

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zoiner
Reply to  N0.5
10, May 2010 9:50 pm

Tories bricking it – starting to negotiate in public with offer of Referendum on AV!

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Victor Meldrew the 1st.
Reply to  N0.5
10, May 2010 9:54 pm

Suggest you listen to his statement. He is not out but says he will not stand in the leadership election.

Constitutionaly he remains Prime Minister until someone can command the support necessary to form a government and neither Conservative or Labour are in that position. If you don’t believe me perhaps you’ll believe the ex Cabinet Secretary who put the constitutional position on Radio 4 Today.

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N0.5
Reply to  Victor Meldrew the 1st.
10, May 2010 9:59 pm

Your statement is absolutely correct

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Earl Grey
Reply to  Victor Meldrew the 1st.
10, May 2010 10:13 pm

Your statement may be correct but it is the politics of the decision that is more important. First Brown was a barrier to the Lib Dems and Labour talking, it is well known that Clegg and Brown did not get on. Secondly Brown no longer controls the process of negociation that has passed to an alliance of Mandy, a certain Mr Campbell and the Milliband brothers. How… Read more »

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hazel wyld
Reply to  Earl Grey
10, May 2010 10:52 pm

When did I miss Mandelson being a member of parliarment and thus able to make political decisions…who voted him in? I thought he got fired twice.

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Earl Grey
Reply to  hazel wyld
10, May 2010 10:58 pm

Mandy is a Lord so in our broken political system he is allowed to participate in Government. Roll on the day we get an elected upper house.

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N0.5
Reply to  hazel wyld
10, May 2010 11:15 pm

Brown will be a lord soon

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hazel wyld
Reply to  N0.5
11, May 2010 6:54 pm

Clearly not!!!

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N0.5
Reply to  hazel wyld
11, May 2010 6:57 pm

Haig will replace Cameron

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Ryde Queen
10, May 2010 6:08 pm

I believe Mr Justice, it wont happen. Good news Gordon’s got the message at last.

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Don Smith
Reply to  Ryde Queen
10, May 2010 10:02 pm

Balls for PM. Watch this thread!

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Earl Grey
Reply to  Don Smith
10, May 2010 10:19 pm

No, it has to be David Milliband!

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N0.5
Reply to  Earl Grey
10, May 2010 10:21 pm

It will be Milliband. There will now either be a Lib Lab pact or a second election

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Earl Grey
Reply to  N0.5
10, May 2010 11:02 pm

I should have said that Milliband will be the next Labour PM but only after a minority Tory government (amusingly being called a Mini-Con by the media).

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N0.5
Reply to  Earl Grey
11, May 2010 12:27 am

which one…I would prefer Cruddas, but I don’t thinkhe stands a chance

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N0.5
11, May 2010 12:11 am

Tebbit calls on Cameron to Resign

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Benny
Reply to  N0.5
11, May 2010 12:47 am

Not sure Cameron can be trusted with this deal with Clegg. Time will tell. Something needs to happen thats for sure and not worried to see the back of Brown either to be honest. Hey ho countrys up the crapper anyway. It cant get any worse.. Can it ?

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islebeseeingyou
Reply to  Benny
11, May 2010 8:54 am

Time surely for a decision, the dithering of the Lib Dems is going to damage this country. As for Cameron not being trusted can anyone trust the labour party? They are running around like headless chickens chucking whatever they can at the Libs to get a deal. How can they agree to electoral reform, surely this is a decision for all MP’s and more importantly the people.… Read more »

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No.5
Reply to  islebeseeingyou
11, May 2010 9:28 am

DC to NC….’Pleeeeaaaaaaaaaaassseeee’

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zoiner
Reply to  islebeseeingyou
11, May 2010 10:01 am

Both Lib/Dems and Labour had electoral reform in their manifestos and more than 50% of the population voted for them.

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zoiner
Reply to  islebeseeingyou
11, May 2010 10:12 am

I cannot believe these Tory muppets, I bet most of the world’s statesmen are rubbing their hands with glee at the thought of negotiating with them. At the slightest whiff of a problem Hague comes on outlining their final negotiating position publically (where is Cameron in all this by the way?). When I was involved in an organisation and given negotiation training you certainly never said that… Read more »

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hazel wyld
Reply to  zoiner
11, May 2010 6:51 pm

I asked the same questiona about Mandelson, who him in charge! At least hague is an elected Mp with a clean record!

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hazel wyld
Reply to  zoiner
11, May 2010 6:51 pm

sorry should have read who put him in charge!

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Davey Jones
11, May 2010 9:56 am

Interesting quote from Rifkind: “The idea that the two parties that suffered most in this election, that were rejected by the electorate, that in the case of the Labour party lost a hundred of its seats, should put together an illegitimate government, this is the Robert Mugabe style of politics,” says Conservative MP and former Foreign Secretary Sir Malcolm Rifkind. “It’s exactly what Mugabe did you know,… Read more »

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No.5
11, May 2010 12:22 pm

No decision today The Irish are meeting to hash out an already agreed block vote for the favoured option of a LibLab pact. will not be resolved until tomorrow. This would provide the required votes..Its what the Alliance wants in Ireland and would avoid the sticky situations with the SNP and PC. My money is still on the Con-Lib (the answer is in the title) pact,especially now… Read more »

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Mr Justice
Reply to  No.5
11, May 2010 9:26 pm

wrong again No5. You seem to be wrong more than you are right.

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No.5
11, May 2010 2:49 pm

an addition

Maybe the Labour party will drop out of the contest to force the Lib Dems into alliance with the Tories, in that it will be a disaster for the LibDems and the Tories

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Leonard
Reply to  No.5
11, May 2010 2:56 pm

I’ve just realised that ‘cameron-clegg’ is a perfect anagram of ‘acne germ clog’…

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Davey Jones
Reply to  Leonard
11, May 2010 3:16 pm

I’ve just realised that ‘milliband-clegg’ is a perfect anagram of ‘Mad Lib Cling Leg’….cool

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Davey Jones
Reply to  No.5
11, May 2010 3:07 pm

Good grief lol

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Davey Jones
Reply to  No.5
11, May 2010 5:07 pm

Cameron will be PM tomorrow

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N0.5
Reply to  No.5
11, May 2010 10:53 pm

was thiswrong Mr. Justice

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Mr Justice
11, May 2010 5:47 pm

Yep, Goodbye Gordon, Hello Dave, just as I predicted. Mr Brown has looked increasingly ridiculous – and don’t get me started on Mandelson & Campbell.

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N0.5
Reply to  Mr Justice
11, May 2010 6:44 pm

hahahahahahha very funny that you were quiet yesterday when it looked like it was going the other way.

NC has decided to bail out the Tories…at what cost???

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intentionally blank
11, May 2010 8:20 pm

it was never going the other way. lib dems were always going to support the torys, they just used labour to get some concessions from the torys. Hopefully within the year Clegg will get the referendum on PR, that referendum will be acted on, and we will have another general election using a fairer system.

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hazel wyld
Reply to  intentionally blank
11, May 2010 9:16 pm

Why is it on VB although you always answer beneath the comment you are answering, if you see what I mean, it often turns up later and thus makes no sense, my “Clearly not” was supposed to be in answer to NO5`s statement we were going to see a Lib/Lab government. Did anyone else notice that Gordon Brown got out of his car and walked off and… Read more »

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Anna
Reply to  hazel wyld
11, May 2010 11:03 pm

Whereas I, also a woman, just think David Cameron treats his wife like she can’t walk out on her own without his help. Out in public? Hold my hand dear, that traffic looks tricky and her attitude is just to smile and let him do it. Sarah Brown’s attitude says, that’s ok, I’m all grown up and can open a car door and find my way out,… Read more »

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Mr Justice
Reply to  Anna
11, May 2010 11:07 pm

Glad I’m not your partner. Feminist nonsense, real women like being treated well, they love good manners.

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steve s
Reply to  Mr Justice
12, May 2010 6:53 am

I don’t know, but I’d hazard a guess that that’s entirely mutual. ;-)

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Jackie
Reply to  Mr Justice
12, May 2010 8:28 am

“real women”…..how chauvinistic is that??? How dare you?? I almost pressed ‘offensive comment’ You’ve got me going now Mr. Justice….exactly what constitutes a ‘real woman’ then?

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Davey Jones
Reply to  Anna
12, May 2010 7:58 am

She’s pregnant you numpty

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Perlease
Reply to  Davey Jones
12, May 2010 8:35 am

Err she’s hardly ready to pop and was perfectly able to stand in those ridiculous high heels whilst Dave shakily made his speech.

I think Sarah Brown would have appreciated that her husband had more on his mind than considering the patronising act of opening her car door for her.

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hazel wyld
Reply to  Davey Jones
12, May 2010 8:46 am

I have to say that some women do feel as I do, grateful when a man opens a door for me, and when he offers me his seat and generally treats me like a lady to be respected and cared for, I do not see it as patronizing, I am more than capable of arguing my corner and I think I am a strong woman with def… Read more »

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Mr Justice
Reply to  intentionally blank
11, May 2010 9:25 pm

Nonsense, the Libs wanted power, there will be no election. Under this arrangement the Libs have influence but are locked in to support the Government. The Conservative party will prove it is compassionate once and for all and the Libs next time will slip into oblivion because why would anyone vote Lib when you have no idea what they actually stand for. Sounds great to me. The… Read more »

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N0.5
Reply to  Mr Justice
11, May 2010 10:57 pm

You haven’;t even seen what the Tories have conceeded yet

Best money just went to Oct 15th for the next election on the rumour that Clegg is deputy Prime Minister

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Mr Justice
Reply to  N0.5
11, May 2010 11:05 pm

You underestimate the intelligence of the Tory plot. They have tied Clegg & Co into a binding agreement – possibly for three or four years. The Lib Dems are doomed. They sold out for some privilege and meaningless cabinet posts. The Lib £10,000 tax policy is a good idea and a vote winner, Cameron won’t introduce the £1 million inheritance tax break but can blame that on… Read more »

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Anna
Reply to  Mr Justice
12, May 2010 12:03 am

Shame that the Tory ability to intelligently plot didn’t extend to being able to plot getting a majority.

Don’t disagree with the analysis of the Lib Dem fate though – but suspect that the Bank of England Governor was right – that this was the hospital pass….

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intentionally blank
Reply to  Mr Justice
11, May 2010 11:05 pm

of course theyre saying that. nicely turns attention away from what they really did, which was use labour negotiations to pressure the torys into agreeing to PR. as for the torys proving theyre compassionate, hows that then? we already know theyre planning spending cuts. and how could anyone take them seriously if they agree to a referendum on PR and then dont act on the results? If… Read more »

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Don Smith
Reply to  Mr Justice
12, May 2010 12:06 am

Victory! When they had to bargain for a coalition. Cameron would sell his mother just to be the PM. Lib/Dems should have let the Tory party try to rule as a minority. Yes! The should have formed a government – More seats and more votes – But to form a coalition with Clegg – The mind boggles! If (And I do not wish it to happen) Cameron… Read more »

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Mr Justice
11, May 2010 9:20 pm

Breeding Hazel, breeding.

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