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Live coverage of the IWC Full Council meeting

Sally Perry·

OnTheWight will be reporting live from the council chamber for the Isle of Wight Council’s full council meeting tonight.

For details of what’s being discussed, see the agenda embedded below.

The live updates that appear below from inside the chamber at County Hall will automatically refresh in the page. However, to see latest comments added to the article, you’ll need to refresh the page. Items in double brackets (()) indicate comment from the author.

Agenda: Isle of Wight Full council meeting April 2015[5]

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brendan65
1, April 2015 8:46 pm

OMG! This could go on all night with Cllrs Blizzard & Joanna Lumley going on with loads of nonsensicle stuff! Hope County Hall car park is still open? Won’t affect Cllr Giblet as he has parked outside, over 2 spaces!

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Observer
Reply to  brendan65
1, April 2015 8:47 pm

I think he is actually parked on the double yellows outside the police station!

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Observer
1, April 2015 9:03 pm

“20.59. Cllr Jordan asked to leave the chamber by the chair after he sought to find out which motion was being voted on.”

Another Independent councillor who obviously has difficulty in understanding what is going on!

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Don Smith
Reply to  Observer
3, April 2015 10:25 pm

INDEPENDENTS – Playing their Swan song.

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brendan65
1, April 2015 9:18 pm

Phil Jordan is up there with the public. Man of the people!

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retired Hack
1, April 2015 9:23 pm

Cllr Hollis accuses Cllr Lumley of being political. Now I’ve heard everything.

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Observer
Reply to  retired Hack
1, April 2015 9:25 pm

Has Lumley ever being anything other than the most politically partisan member of the Isle of Wight Council?

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Anon Again
Reply to  Observer
1, April 2015 10:33 pm

You say that like it is a bad thing Observer? He stands on a political ticket – he’s honest about being a member of a political party and supporting that party. Unlike so many “independents”. At least Labour and Conservatives and Reg Barry are being straight with people!

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Observer
Reply to  Anon Again
1, April 2015 10:40 pm

Not saying its a bad thing at all. In fact I entirely agree with you that people should declare their political allegiances. I was merely commenting on RH’s post that seemed to suggest that Lumley was somehow less political than Hollis. In fact both of them have the courage of their political convictions and for that they are to be commended even though I agree with one… Read more »

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Anon Again
Reply to  Observer
1, April 2015 11:03 pm

Observer – my apologies!

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Geoff Lumley
Reply to  Observer
2, April 2015 12:36 pm

I’ll take that as a rare compliment….

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Steve Goodman
Reply to  retired Hack
1, April 2015 11:12 pm

I’d like to thank Cllr. Lumley for suggesting that the island continues to avoid fracking damage & dangers, which is surely much more politically welcome than 1. recently rushing through a change in the law so that the government’s fracking friends no longer need permission to drill below peoples properties, but still leaving the owners responsible for any problems if the company folds, and 2. cutting grants… Read more »

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Vix Lowthion
Reply to  retired Hack
1, April 2015 11:54 pm

Yes. Big thanks to Geoff for tabling this motion and defending it well. I emailed every councillor to ask them to declare the island Frack Free in January, and only 4 councillors emailed me back. Geoff replied straight away that he agreed, and would table the motion.

Thank you.

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Anon Again
Reply to  Vix Lowthion
2, April 2015 11:48 pm

@vix – the mark of a good politician should be of someone who can graciously take credit for what they have done but also doesn’t try to claim everything as their own idea. To actually say “well done – that was a good thing” to an opponent is something you should be able to do. Instead you congratulate Geoff, but at the same time imply he only… Read more »

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fedupbritain
Reply to  Vix Lowthion
3, April 2015 11:11 am

if island is to beome ‘frack free’ would it mean that we could gett fossil fuels from elsehwre that had been fracked?

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Don Smith
Reply to  Vix Lowthion
3, April 2015 10:57 pm

You are a very busy BEE Vix – It must be all the greens in the meadows and hedgerows. You do believe in your cause, unfortunately, you are in a minority, life is more about saving a planet; nature will take care of itself, always will and always has. Stand for a Council (Or at the very least try!) You would get my vote (Not for being… Read more »

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Phil jordan
1, April 2015 9:24 pm

fortunately I understood very well what was going….. but the chairman did not….

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Anon Again
Reply to  Phil jordan
1, April 2015 10:36 pm

Easy to state that with no elaboration Cllr Jordan. Could you fill us in on the confusion please? In particular, the bits you understood differently from the Chairman of the Council. Thanks.

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retired Hack
Reply to  Phil jordan
1, April 2015 10:41 pm

Phil, had you considered the even more worrying possibility – that the chairman understood perfectly well what was going on; that he understood that there was about to be a very close vote; and that he saw the opportunity to influence it from the chair in a partisan way?

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Steephill Jack
Reply to  retired Hack
2, April 2015 8:15 pm

Quite right Retired Hack, Cllr. Jordan understood it all and was right to persist, for which he was banished !

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Anon Again
Reply to  retired Hack
3, April 2015 12:22 am

I may have missed it but did Cllr Jordan ever tell us what he understood but others didn’t? Not sure you can just drop in to a site and say “oh if only you knew what I know – you’d understand” and then drop out of site again. I know it he has a habit of this but he really should be challenged on it more often.

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retired Hack
Reply to  Anon Again
3, April 2015 12:40 pm

Well of course Phil doesn’t just “drop in” here any more than anyone else. Given the time and energy he needs to devote to his council duties, his record on public engagement is exemplary. Anyway, the argument at full council was a rather boring and technical one about whether what was about to be voted on was an amendment or the substantive motion. The fact that it… Read more »

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The Sciolist
1, April 2015 9:53 pm

Has Davina gone now? If so, who was advising the meeting legally?

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brendan65
1, April 2015 9:57 pm

OMG! Has Davina gone? Where? Our gain, someone’s loss!

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Observer
Reply to  brendan65
1, April 2015 9:59 pm

Yep, we weren’t paying her enough.

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The Sciolist
1, April 2015 10:16 pm

The post was worth at least £150,000 pa, but I don’t think we were quite paying her that much and I wonder what the new legal eagle is earning? Davina was made redundant, the post axed as part of the brilliant cost saving plan. It all sounds good, but someone has to be our top legal eagle and if they have the experience and expertise, they will… Read more »

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milly
2, April 2015 12:44 am

I’m going to have take my big fat hat off and bow to Geoff Lumley for this stand on Fracking.Why can’t you do this all of the time Geoff? We all admire the principle. This is what we want to see.

Well done!

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Cynic
2, April 2015 9:05 am

I note that Councillors frequently resort to promising a “Written response” In the interests of democratic transparency, are these written responses appended to the formal Minutes of the meeting or published elsewhere?

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Colin
2, April 2015 9:30 am

At least one councillor (Cllr Hollis)has the sense to ask relevant questions on the proposed car club.
Do we need to give public money to private enterprise which already meets a need for car hire? I realise that it is not local tax payers money, but money from central government sources, but then we all contribute to that too.

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Colin
Reply to  Colin
2, April 2015 9:56 am

Seeing as how some councillors read this site and continuing on the subject of giving money away, would any of them like to comment on the proposed community toilet scheme whereby the council proposes to give more of our money away, this time to any business providing public toilets. Effectively, anyone already with a toilet in store will get the money so we will now be paying… Read more »

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Tanja Rebel
2, April 2015 1:07 pm

The Isle of Wight Council yesterday had the unique chance to declare the Island frack-free. This chance has now been squandered due to legalistic scaremongering. Despite the fact that many other Councils in this country have dared make a stand against this risky and polluting energy source, the Isle of Wight Council has chosen to take the overly cautious route. This is a crying shame, for whilst… Read more »

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peaceful_life
Reply to  Tanja Rebel
2, April 2015 1:42 pm

@Tanja. With the fracking industry already facing it’s own bubble popping, coupled with the temporary cheap(er) price of oil and the more public company divestment from hydrocarbons on the whole, it’s fair to say that the council not only missed a political trick, but more importantly, fail to recognise the direction of the social zeitgeist. Declaring the island frack free would of only carried any symbolic merit… Read more »

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The Sciolist
2, April 2015 1:44 pm

Gesture politics Vix, are a waste of everyone’s time.

Almost no-one cares about fracking, plus it’s a great way to get low cost energy at minimal risk.

The council did the right thing, shame on those who abstained

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Don Smith
Reply to  The Sciolist
3, April 2015 10:43 pm

Fracking and other technical decisions should left to the experts – Far too much interference from unqualified (Although well intentioned)- Amateurs cost us £M. I’m getting sick to the teeth about/ regarding ‘Greens’, I never liked them [Greens] when a little boy, although I do understand the benefits one obtains from such food…However, p lease allow those who know what is best carry on Fracking. INDEPENDENTS –… Read more »

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Cynic
Reply to  Don Smith
4, April 2015 8:30 am

Yep! let’s not bother our pretty little heads about the effects of fracking on our property, health and lives but trust the PR from the “experts” employed by investment bankers promoting fracking.. After all their history shows that we can trust investment bankers doesn’t it? (It’s no good Don, frackers won’t install a drop kerb for you either- at least not on purpose anyway but subsidence resulting… Read more »

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peaceful_life
2, April 2015 1:49 pm

@Sciolist.

When you say…

‘Almost no-one cares about fracking, plus it’s a great way to get low cost energy at minimal risk’

Can you qualify one single word of your statement to be true?

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jackie
3, April 2015 9:18 pm

Hi Sally, is it possible to tell us who voted which way on the fracking issue please

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Geoff Lumley
Reply to  jackie
4, April 2015 10:01 am

The names will be in the Minutes of the meeting, posted on the Council website around next Thursday.

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jegpad
8, April 2015 4:48 am

Sign the petition folks, and get ready to rumble !

http://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/stop-fracking-in-the-isle-of-wight

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