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Rip Off Britain: Isle of Wight hits the TV screens next week

The Isle of Wight will be featured in a BBC programme next week. Unfortunately, it’s not due to our beautiful coastline or great arts scene.

Rip Off Britain, hosted by former news journalists Angela Rippon, Gloria Hunniford and Jennie Bond, will be focusing on the protracted closure of Cliff Path in Lake.

Closed due to safety reasons
The path was first struck during the heavy rain and flooding in January 2014 and was “closed due to safety reasons”.

Next Tuesday’s episode of Rip Off Britain speaks to residents affected by the prolonged closure of the access road. It airs on 15th September at 9.15am on BBC1.

IWC: “Look forward to seeing the show”
OnTheWight approached the Isle of Wight council (IWC) for a comment.

An spokesperson said,

“The producers of BBC’s Rip Off Britain approached the council earlier this year outlining they were filming a piece in relation to Cliff Path at Lake and requested an interview with the council.

“We provided an interview as part of the programme and look forward to seeing the show next week.”

We’re not sure the IWC will really be “looking forward to seeing the show”, but we expect the residents concerned will be.

OnTheWight has also requested an update on reasons for the length of the closure and will update once we hear back.

Image: lac-bac under CC BY 2.0

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nigel
9, September 2015 9:18 am

Did you know the iwcc housing can’t provide housing for the disabled well not in my case.offed unsuitable b/b for person who uses wheelchair if you want to look in to something.

Mark Francis
9, September 2015 9:56 am

I understood that the Cliff Path actually belongs to Seacroft Hotel & is used with their permission.

phil jordan
Reply to  Mark Francis
9, September 2015 8:36 pm

mark francis:

That is not the case…..

Newport lad
Reply to  phil jordan
17, September 2015 2:37 am

Your correct mr Fransis, I don’t know a sea croft in this area… The land was owned by the land owners to Mean High Water Springs. Many of the properties over the past 80 years have signed over their property, ‘Sea Court’ #3 does still however own the cliff path and the land all the way to the sea at MHWS. Island Roads/highways are contracted to keep… Read more »

cfmwh
Reply to  Newport lad
6, October 2015 10:15 am

I gather that at least numbers 2, 3, 5 and 6 had contracts drawn up with Sandown and Shanklin Urban District Council early last century. The properties owned the land right up to the cliff edge and also down to the high water mark. The contract allowed the council to create a public road across the properties on the understanding that access be maintained at the council’s… Read more »

Eddie
9, September 2015 10:46 am

What about the rip off ferry prices!! They should look into that too

76offset
9, September 2015 11:41 am

Access denied to coastal path routes. Is this a deliberate policy construed with the connivance of IW council authorities ? There seem to be so many official looking ‘PATH CLOSED’ signs mounted on elaborate structures devised to prevent access, at what must be considerable expense and planning. It appears more energy is devoted to ensure route closure than that assigned to path maintenance and encouragement to use.… Read more »

Caconym
Reply to  76offset
9, September 2015 12:51 pm

Get your tinfoil hats here.

phil jordan
Reply to  76offset
9, September 2015 9:08 pm

76offset: The Totland to Colwell sea wall ‘collapse’ happened before the 2013 elections and were not part of any consideration before, during or after those elections when the matter was agreed at the Executive meeting in 2014. Furthermore, no “shaming” of “Politicians” or the “authority” took place to get us to this place where next Sunday we will open the new footpath to the public. Instead, we… Read more »

Gordon the Green Engine
Reply to  Sally Perry
9, September 2015 10:39 pm

Is it not likely that the press office need to contact elected members before making statements? And that when they contacted Phil he simply decided to comment here directly? 24 hours for a reply on such a technical issue does not seem an unreasonable wait, even for the impatient press.

CB500
Reply to  phil jordan
10, September 2015 9:00 am

Phil. I’ve asked before. Have you looked at the movement occuring between upper and lower Ventnor. It seems worse daily. Is there a plan in place to permanently repair this problem road or will it be another link into Ventnor lost? Also, temporary traffic lights at Zig Zag road have been there about a year. Surely the hire costs to HSS will be more than the cost… Read more »

phil jordan
Reply to  CB500
10, September 2015 6:54 pm

CB500:

I wasn’t aware we still had temporary lights after such a period of time.

I will ask about the proposals for this road and get back to you shortly…

CB500
Reply to  phil jordan
10, September 2015 8:27 pm

Thanks Phil. Ventnor tends to get forgotten about. Regarding the temporary lights I think they’ve been there long enough for a blue plaque! Also, why do the taxpayers have to bear the burden of the Ventnor Haven subsidy? ( 100K I think ).

phil jordan
Reply to  phil jordan
11, September 2015 7:15 am

CB500: I’m (having my regular) meeting with Director of IR next thursday… in the meantime I’ll email a question about the road. I have no detailed personal knowledge about Ventnor Haven. On the few occasions I have been in conversations where it was brought up I think I understood the issue to be that a long (legal) lease make changes very difficult or impossible….but, as I say,… Read more »

phil jordan
Reply to  phil jordan
23, September 2015 8:37 pm

CB 500:

I have been informed this work will be undertaken very shortly. Within weeks.
Hope this helps and the work gets done satisfactorily. Please let me know if not…?

steve s
Reply to  CB500
17, September 2015 6:07 am

CB
My contact details are readily available.

Newport lad
Reply to  phil jordan
17, September 2015 3:07 am

Could the new ‘private road’ at #1 & 2 not have just been made ‘as per the the original plans’ this would have allowed small cars to pass clear of the fallen cliff at the start of cliff path… By making the corner and private road at cliff path/cliff road as it now stands it has made It difficult (not impossible) to access cliff path. It’s frustrating… Read more »

phil jordan
Reply to  Newport lad
17, September 2015 5:57 am

Newport Lad:

That idea was investigated but could not be implemented due to a number of insurmountable problems. In fact, it was the first idea we looked at.
A scheme is being designed and costed currently that may provide a solution. I have no idea at this moment in time whether it will be affordable.

cfmwh
Reply to  phil jordan
17, September 2015 5:27 pm

Phil……what was insurmountable about the fact that the lady on the corner was apparently prepared to GIVE the corner of her garden up for free to selflessly allow people to have continued access to their properties?

Newport lad
Reply to  phil jordan
17, September 2015 6:05 pm

As Phil mentions, #1a was willing to give ‘for free’ the land to give access to cliff path. This was rejected??? This would have resolved the issue surly? There is only one area (that is about 10M) that has fallen, this is the area at the end of cliff road as it goes to cliff path that was neglected when the reinforcing was put in to suport… Read more »

cfmwh
Reply to  phil jordan
6, October 2015 10:34 am

A sensible solution was offered at the meeting at Sandown Town Hall, whereby a curved stretch of Armco barrier, starting on the Sandown side of the end of Ranelagh Road, and curving into Cliff Path (leaving enough room to get round the end for pedestrians and cyclists). If a car had inadvertently sped towards the cliff edge then, it would be guded round onto Cliff Path. I… Read more »

Stewart Blackmore
9, September 2015 2:08 pm

They might consider doing a follow up with Undercliff as the subject.

Philip Hawkins
Reply to  Stewart Blackmore
9, September 2015 7:25 pm

There isn’t even a footpath through here, after all this time – or not an official one! Add the fact that there are still no signs warning walkers that there is no way through and you have a most unhelpfull state. After the last slip, the first thing to be re-instated was a footpath. I’ve no doubt the ‘elf & safety’ brigade will cry “it’s an active… Read more »

Robert Jones
Reply to  Philip Hawkins
10, September 2015 12:08 am

I walked along Undercliff Drive last week, and it was open all the way through to St Lawrence & Ventnor – why, and how, I don’t know.

Lord Bermondsey
9, September 2015 2:49 pm

Great, a show going out on national television showing a load of old moaning fogeys whinging about living next to a cliff edge. It won’t show the island and it’s folk in great light.

People who live near cliffs, the clue is in the name. Cliffs and their surrounding areas are prone to falling and decaying. Just get on with it or move.

Caconym
Reply to  Lord Bermondsey
10, September 2015 9:31 am

Hmmmm.

A TV Show portraying the IW as being populated by moaning old fogeys?

Well, they got that bit right, didn’t they. Can I suggest another protest group?

KIFCAP (Keep the Island Free of Consumer Affairs Programmes)

Newport lad
Reply to  Lord Bermondsey
17, September 2015 6:19 pm

Lord B, you should be ashamed! The residents can’t sell their houses because the highways have closed off access to them. The value is hugely reduced! ‘The Old Moaning Fogeys’ are only asking the island roads to maintain their contract that was agreed 10s of years ago. “The cliff path shall be maintained for all of time” If you could imagin the access was removed from your… Read more »

Steephill Jack
9, September 2015 8:20 pm

Yes, but Rip Off Britain was made ages ago and they will not know about the recent deal done with the Wildlife Trust to swop some land and get the road sorted out before the winter.
This will just do damage to the Island’s reputation and titillate the TV viewers who will remain ignorant of the facts.

milly
Reply to  Steephill Jack
9, September 2015 8:36 pm

Will they be mentioning the Ferry prices, the bus fares or parking passes?

Lord Bermondsey
Reply to  Sally Perry
10, September 2015 10:45 am

Did you supply the tea and biscuits for them on their visit?

Lord Bermondsey
Reply to  Sally Perry
10, September 2015 1:51 pm

I know Angela Rippon is very partial to a custard cream.

bones
10, September 2015 9:23 am

Regarding Undercliff Drive I would like to ask when Winter begins. The BBC did a short bit about the landslip last year. It would be a waste of their time to do another as nothing has changed.

Snapper
10, September 2015 4:43 pm

Phil Jordan tells us that repairs to the Cliff Path are constrained by the Council’s lack of cash,a statement that might have some credence if the IWC wasn’t prepared to splash out 125grand a year on a new chief executive when the job’s only worth half the money they’re offering.

Lord Bermondsey
Reply to  Snapper
11, September 2015 9:24 am

If they don’t offer a decent salary though, we’ll end up with someone from within County Hall currently.

The island needs new blood in charge of our council, not another mate of Burbage with a funny handshake.

phil jordan
10, September 2015 6:52 pm

Snapper: You misrepresent my comments. The main problem derives from physical restraints and technical problems at the failure point of the barrier. Financial constraints are impacting ALL issues that require funding. I’m not at all convinced that a £60,000 salary would attract the level of experience and capability that a £265M business requires. Our research indicates that a CE with the necessary ability to manage such an… Read more »

GarageElfinIOW
Reply to  phil jordan
10, September 2015 8:42 pm

At the risk of sounding picky Phil whilst you are correct about the budget at £256 million its NOT a business – If the IWC were a business it would be run in a business like way and not with the long running history of poor management, waste etc etc etc that is detailed in these pages regularly. I am another believer in the when it comes… Read more »

Terry Connelly
19, September 2015 3:11 pm

The Cliff Path is a road……. “CALLED CLIFF PATH” It was adopted by Sandown Urban District Council “FOR ALL TIME” to be maintained as a road. QUOTE “The owner was seized of strips of land thereinafter mentioned in unencumbered free simple possession”. By the Council of the day on the 19-2-1927. The relevant document is not suitable for this vehicle, I will gladly forward any information requested… Read more »

Newport Lad
Reply to  Terry Connelly
19, September 2015 4:16 pm

Its really interesting to read Terry’s facts and quote from the council contracts rather than just opinions!. It will be even more interesting to see if the council/island roads will honor their contract OR continue ignoring the situation. I have to agree its a real shame it took a TV show to get people to start asking questions and give the Cliff Path residence the access they… Read more »

TerryConnelly
20, September 2015 1:08 pm

With all this “speak” about Cliff Path Unsafe. I beg to observe, that the actuality of the two loses of Cliff Top material were not actually on our Cliff Path’s Adopted Tarmac Road at-all. The 2009/10 fall site is on Council owned land in front of No7, and the 2014/15 fall was directly in line with the centre of the “unrestricted” Ranalagh Road access to Cliff Road.… Read more »

Terry Connelly
23, September 2015 6:52 pm

Newport Lads Comment 17-9-15. Yes, Newport Lad You are so right. However, the first planning permission for the new private road was stamped and passed in July 2014, and the detail on the corner that you refer to. The road access apron from their “New Road” access, blended into the existing Ranalagh/Cliff Path junction, leaving sufficient space for vehicles from the eight other properties from the west,… Read more »

Newport Lad
23, September 2015 11:11 pm

Wow!. So the ‘free’ (or almost free) solution has been presented and rejected?!?. Is there an ulterior motive or is there a clever plan that the powers that be have not shared with us?
Thanks for all the info, I’ll convey to my family. Fingers crossed for a fair solution to this situation soon.

Anonymous
10, October 2015 7:59 am

I can’t understand why a one way system wasn’t adopted that requires a less dramatic complicated expensive barrier? Depending on the likely angle a barrier would be impacted, would determine the instalment structure (expense) of the barrier requirement! Making this cliff path a one way system would illiminate the chances of a head on collision and if the council combined this with a height restriction barrier at… Read more »

bigj
Reply to  Anonymous
12, October 2015 10:57 am

What is an “over weighted vehicle”?

Martin from Shanklin
10, October 2015 12:30 pm

Has this issue now been ignored and spun long enough that the council have brushed it under the rug? It would unfortunately (wrongly) make our council and workers appear incompetent if there is not a solution realised. It’s a shame it got to a stage the residence had to seek assistance from a television reporter, but now the problem has been so publicly aired we should show… Read more »

phil jordan
Reply to  Martin from Shanklin
10, October 2015 1:06 pm

martin from shanklin: Nothing has been ‘spun’ about this problem martin and the problem still rests in a physical answer… not any other. I won’t go through the whole history here but, essentially, we are faced with a problem of fixing a barrier to a cliff edge that would prevent and withstand the impact of a vehicle hitting it and continuing over the cliff edge. To move… Read more »

Martin
Reply to  phil jordan
10, October 2015 2:03 pm

Hi Phil, Very helpful! Thanks. I noticed nothing was done last week on route to #5 so thought I’d ask. Is there a time line for the process? I understand there is only so many options and then a decision. So like all managed projects I would imagine the team have a time line? Thank you again for all the information, it’s nice to know it’s being… Read more »

Daniel Stump
11, October 2015 3:21 am

Hi all, mentioned above was a ‘one-way’ system. Would this be implemented going South-east on Currie Rd, South-west on Cliff Road. leaving cliff path 2 way? presuming the corner of number one was excepted (i read above this was offered FREE of charge) and the curb lowered, can/could/should this be our solution. We have all seen the speed island roads are capable of working when needed. This… Read more »

phil jordan
11, October 2015 10:17 am

Martin/Daniel: We are trying to get a solution as soon as we can. There are very limited solutions here because of the width of the road at the entrance (and along) the Cliff Path (not Cliff Road). The access road work to the first houses was carried out (and funded) privately by the residents and utilising their own private property. (Planning was sought and granted, btw) The… Read more »

Terry Connelly
11, October 2015 8:35 pm

LAKE CLIFF PATH STUFF Design Solutions! Unfortunate Problems! Possibility! Feasibility! Limited Solutions! Actuality! “We are working !” “Doing our Best!” … Hog-Wash! An oversized vehicle entered Cliff Road through the un-restricted, Western Ranalagh Road Cliff Road access, damaging the railings and triggering a very small amount of Cliff Top surface, with a much larger amount of bushes, plus some previously abandoned Cliff Road Railings there, whilst it… Read more »

FJB
Reply to  Terry Connelly
12, October 2015 7:27 am

Sorry to hear that you’re still having problems Terry

bigj
12, October 2015 10:38 am

Council bashing is not the answer. A workable solution is, and if it takes publicity to get one, so be it. Wooton Bridge now has a weight restriction to prevent further damage or closure. Too much bad publicity if that closed. I am not alone in thinking that the massive weight of the numerous construction vehicles that used Undercliff Drive contributed to the demise of the road.… Read more »

Jon
12, October 2015 12:17 pm

The information above that states there is only one house with out access is incorrect. I live along cliff path with my young family. Since the road has been closed my property has had no vehicle access. I also know of several other properties that have had their access taken away by this road closure, it has caused not only huge amounts of stress but also many… Read more »

jamie
12, October 2015 11:53 pm

BigJs.. At the end of curry road they have put a width restriction in place so larger ‘heavy goods’ can no longer pass. BUT in the past they could however go around, going along Ranalagh rd, going left (against the one way system) on to Cliff Road. this is an easy fix with a width restriction as somebody mentioned above. I recently learned two things that are… Read more »

phil jordan
Reply to  jamie
13, October 2015 5:51 am

Jamie: The issue is NOT about width restriction, or one way. They *may* assist the overall solution. The problem remains which is a technical engineering one. That is, to safely fix an Armco barrier around the area of failure in such a way that it is not going to further damage the cliff edge at that point nor give way in the event of a vehicle of… Read more »

jamie
Reply to  phil jordan
13, October 2015 11:35 am

Phil thanks again for your patience with us disgruntled residence and thank-you for sympathising with the frustrating situation we are in. I sadly do not know all the residence of cliff path but among the few I do is a surveyor, geologist and an engineer who I am sure will gladly give time and energy to help you reach our mutual goal. So… if there is a… Read more »

phil jordan
Reply to  jamie
13, October 2015 2:48 pm

Jamie: I am dismayed and frustrated and haunted by this problem. I absolutely agree that the period of time is unnacceptable and have said so on a number of occasions. I have been shown a number of solutions during the recent past only for that to be ultimately not deliverable. The latest news is that IR have spoken with owner of first property and we believe we… Read more »

Jamie
Reply to  phil jordan
23, November 2015 2:50 am

Hi again, any news Mr Jordan?. Could you advise what you would suggest we do to speed this up?.it seems you have been the person that has enlightened the readers of this blog and myself on matters from the councils side so far, I wonder if you could help a little more? I have been asked from a few of the residence ‘how’ this it such a… Read more »

Terry Connelly
13, October 2015 11:39 am

I Note that there is a I.W.C.C. PFI Liaison Department. So I telephoned County Hall inquiries, asking for a personal interview. At this point info became a little distant, and I could not be put through! I asked where This office is, the operator did not seem to know well enough where exactly in the industrial estate, I should go!! But kindly gave me the Post Code.… Read more »

Terry Connelly
13, October 2015 4:39 pm

T.C Sandown We have an I.W.C.C. Public Funding Initiative Liaison Department (PFI). Wishing to understand this process more fully, I telephoned County Hall inquiries to request a personal interview at the (PFI) department there. At this point, information became a little distant. I could not be put through! Asking where the office was, the operator did not seem to know it well enough to explain where exactly… Read more »

bigj
15, October 2015 2:09 pm

Excellent detective work Terry In the introduction it says “ It was planned to re-open the path and restrict the width so that a maximum vehicle weight of about 3.5 tonnes could be accommodated” Can you please tell me how the weight limit is enforced or monitored, otherwise this will only be a temporary fix. Cliff Road is likely to be the next victim of heavy vehicles.… Read more »

Terry Connelly
15, October 2015 5:41 pm

I wish to address: Phils Little Comment…….”There’s only One Left”. There were originally twelve ‘Cliff Path’ properties with a guaranteed “for all time” right of way over their own land, on the “Vehicle Right of Way” to Cliff Road. Nos.1a and 2 have given up their right of access to their Cliff Path, there are now ten properties affected. THE No 3 Cliff Paths COD-MOUTH, at the… Read more »

Fmg343
15, October 2015 6:40 pm

A solution as soon as we can………. As I recall the public meeting at the town hall was well over a year ago and we were advised that the council & island roads would be having a meeting the week after to discuss the matter further and would advise residents on the matter. No further information on progress or plans seems to have been disclosed to residents… Read more »

Jon
16, October 2015 11:13 am

Is there a reason we cant Add our votes any more?????

Jamie
24, October 2015 4:02 am

I just read Terry’s ‘Daws’ report. having just been up to the cliff path (frustratingly by foot) the barrier/Armco stops before the failure point…. This is the only place on the cliff path/cliff road/ranalagh rd that needs it and for some reason it’s been left in protected?…. Why?

T Connelly
27, October 2015 3:43 pm

First these two foliage root drops are both in Council owned Cliff Edge and stimulated by, the authority failing to do what they are there for. Looking after our right of access, to our roads/Ambulances/fire brigades/Policemen etc. 18 Months to date, and two years in the pipeline of Barrier Hire,= 3.5 Years?. Nice work if you can get it!! How does that stand up against a few… Read more »

Jamie
11, November 2015 12:34 am

Does anyone have an update on a time line for this yet?. Is there any plans to fix the access issue? Or is it still at the ‘talking about’ putting up the Armco stage? I’ve not been to visit my family for a few weeks but understand still no progress has been made?. So… The change of plans months ago to give a wider entrance for the… Read more »

Jamie
20, November 2015 1:40 am

Phil Jordan, do you know what is the next step? Or do you know if there is any time line on the access being opened up? It might help just to know who is ‘The Person’ in control (clearly not the residence). who can I/we talk to? (Please say whoever is ‘in charge’ doesn’t expect us to do another winter like this?) Phil, it would be really… Read more »

Terry Connelly
17, November 2016 11:34 am

REF: Lake Cliff. I recently heard through the grape-vine that “they” are about to publish another “Good Idea”. With the £3500-00 that I have spent with Daws&co and the I.W.C.C. spending at least another £3500-00 separately on the correctly Qualified Daws&Co’s. “Lake Cliff Stability Statement” I presume that all County Councillors particularly the directly concerned local Members Have read the their specially prepared short offering without graphics… Read more »

Terry Connelly
2, January 2017 6:31 pm

As we haven’t had any intelligent management of this section of “On The wight” since Sally Perry 16th Oct 2015, following “The little Glitch”, and the only management comment has been “offensive comment”. This democratic platform has failed “to be”. May I suggest that instead of making yours the only opinion to be valid. A single line of type with numbers fore or against at regular intervals.… Read more »

Jodie Richards
2, January 2017 10:51 pm

Sally, I too am unaware of any vote fixing, but to be honest this is such a low profile OLD story I wouldn’t notice if there were!. Perhaps this is why the IWCC have done nothing for the access to the properties on the cliff path, the ‘small number’ of residence (including TC) who are no longer able to park THEIR car in THEIR drive of THEIR… Read more »

Terry Connelly
3, January 2017 12:47 pm

Hi Sally. comment yesterday was a totally valid observation . . . . . I called it like it is and Not meant to be aggressive or personal in any way Simply stating that if a person in a democratic public debate, makes a point, then another makes a “contra point” both of their points should be allowed to show on the score board . . .… Read more »

Terry Connelly
3, January 2017 5:05 pm

Hi Sally. with all respect to you personally. “Offensive Comment,” is Offensive, when the input source is an at arms length professional response to a technical question from a third party.
particularly when there are here a number of properties involved all being marked down in value without a legitimate reason.

Geoff Lumley
Reply to  Sally Perry
3, January 2017 7:28 pm

My colleague and your local councillor Alan Hollands has spent a great deal of time pressurising Island Roads over this problem. Ian Stephens’ predecessor Phil Jordan was also very supportive. Island Roads have constantly been the problem. I understood some progress was being made recently. Alan will be able to update you if he hasn’t already. Contact him at:
E-Mail: Alan.Hollands@btinternet.com
Mobile: 07967 365424

terrycon
4, September 2017 6:19 pm

STOP PRESS!!!! It’s about time for An Update on CLIFF PATH . . . . Over the last several years, the right of vehicular access, accident/emergency . . .Parking! has routinely frequented this column. COLIN BLYTH, with his disabled wife at No10 Cliff Path are still land locked, together with all the rest of the properties to the west of No4. This is due to No1. Cliff… Read more »

bigj
6, September 2017 11:31 am

Terry, sorry to see that your problems have not beene resolved. I do accept that there are rules and regulations, and as Phil Jordon previously stated, the worst case scenario (cars crashing into the barrier) have to be considered, but surely there is a workable solution to be made – a barrier with keys for the very few people affected – for instance. Your road problem is… Read more »

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