Pressure builds on Pugh as UKIP decide not to stand in Shanklin South

It’s currently a straight race between David Pugh and Richard Priest.

shanklin-old-village-davidshortAnother political party has made the decision not to run a candidate in the same ward as current leader of the Isle of Wight council, Cllr David Pugh.

Deliberate decision
UKIP, who are fielding their largest number of candidates to date in an Isle of Wight county election, told OnTheWight that they took the deliberate decision not to run a candidate, leaving the field open for Richard Priest to run against David Pugh.

At the end of March, the Labour candidate, Peter Coleman, made the decision not to run citing a ‘ground swell’ of support for Richard Priest.

Strong disappointment expressed
Many people have contacted OnTheWight expressing strong disappointment with the way they feel the council has been run under the the control of David Pugh.

With the candidates from the main parties declared (as yet, the Lib Dems, haven’t delivered their candidates list to us), it’s currently a straight race between David Pugh and Richard Priest.

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Friday, 5th April, 2013 9:43am

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RJC

Run rabbit, run rabbit run, run, run.

Just make sure Pugh does not get co-opted and gets in by the back door.

wightywight
Hmm….. I would prefer, on balance to have UKIP pulling the votes from conservatives…for it is they, largely, that vote for the UKIP nonsense. So, both nonsense votes ukip or conservative… but let them struggle for the same people to vote for them….as it is, Richard has to confront head on for votes…which I think he will successfully do but….the headline is wrong…. it’s not more pressure… Read more »
Cynic
@WW ” I would prefer, on balance to have UKIP pulling the votes from conservatives…for it is they, largely, that vote for the UKIP nonsense.” I agree with WW. It would be would be beneficial to the unseating of David Pugh if UKIP drained off some of the more right-wing, anti-immigration,anti-EU, Daily Mail reading Tory voters. I wonder why UKIP is not putting up a candidate in… Read more »
Robbo

There is little doubt that the absence of a UKIP candidate here will let Pugh back. The two parties fish in the same pool for votes. A cosy backroom deal?

Cynic

@Robbo “A cosy backroom deal? ”

Doubt it- what’s in it for UKIP?

Unless of course, DP threatened to join that party! :-))

Bystander

“Doubt it- what’s in it for UKIP?”

Perhaps Pugh has secretly offered to pull the Island out of Europe.

At least the whether might improve then, here’s hoping we become part of the Seychelles

willieswildworld

so Cicero judging by your comments i’m guessing your part of the guardian reading intellectuals that have so wrecked this country over the past forty years ….. maybe the reason you so hate the daily mail is it exposes you for what you are a pro mass immigration pro eu left wing bigot

Cynic
@WWW :-)) …. and presumably you yourself wouldn’t be, by any chance, a diehard member of the hang’em, shoot’em,flog’em blue-rinse brigade that believes everything said by the Daily Mail, CCHQ and Grant Shapps? [BTW, I haven’t read the Guardian for many years as it became too far left-wing as the Daily Mail is too far right-wing for my political tastes.] BTW why is the Daily Mail (one… Read more »
wightywight
cicero can speak for himself…and no doubt will… However, I’m not a Guardian reader but I equally detest the DM for the overbearing obsessiveness based upon innate fears and inaccurate insistence on certain matters…immigration is one…health is another. There is more. It is a raging anti-immigration newspaper that concatenates legal and illegal immigration together. Having said that, more importantly for the Island and its residents, UKIP will… Read more »
playingthenumbers
willieswildworld, your comments are priceless, comedy gold, I hope to see more of them. It wasn’t the intellectuals or the dwindling readership of newspapers that ruined the country, (even those who, as Freud would refer to as having fascination tendencies, gawp over nice pictures of duchess something-or-other in the DM). It was those who failed to heed the warnings of Joseph Schumpter, or recognise what Kipling was… Read more »
willieswildworld

what a load of leftist claptrap ….. you make me laugh with your waffle …. next you’ll be extolling the virtues of Stalin

playingthenumbers
willieswildworld – And you don’t disappoint. Such generosity to share your deep, deep feelings & profound ignorance with the world deserves reciprocation, so here goes. Firstly, employment – the Telegraph are looking for a new blogger, maybe you should apply. Their latest reactionary, dog whistling, scare mongering loon didn’t last a day. Apparently he didn’t get the memo about the differences between the new traditional working class… Read more »
Will
PUGH-WATCH ~ Thursday 4th Boy blunder was busy lobbying in Shanklin yesterday and was getting short shrift from a number of the business and tourist operators who had the cheek to have RP/JG posters displayed! At one cafe in the Old Village he was very much on he backfoot when given a terse business message, that relates to the real world and not Nania Land! Will this… Read more »
wightywight
@Will: Maybe it’s another example of how off target this man is……. Why on earth would you *waste* time canvassing for electoral support amongst businesses and shops in your Ward when it is highly likely that the people involved with those businesses and shops live OUTSIDE the Ward…indeed, somewhere else on the Island. Especially Shanklin… which attracts Tourist related business people from across the Island. It seems… Read more »
playingthenumbers

Oh poo, those romanticists at UKIP have denied me the opportunity of coming up with jokes, which rhyme with third, come May.

Mason Watch
Pughs core support comes from the ladies who lunch and generally a “blue rinse” electoral base. This support would exist regardless of his inability to organise a good drink in a brewery….. In fact he would have brought in a new brewer at a vast salary and then sold off the building. A two horse race is probably the best way to deal with the issue but… Read more »
tryme

When did you last see a ‘blue rinse’ Mason Watch?! Don’t blame Tory support on a stereotype, please, and give older women a hard time. There seem to be a lot of older Tory men around too, some of them even have lunch!

wightywight

…and belong to clubs!!

WW

Black Dog
Here are Ten things you will not find on Councillor Pugh’s Election Flyers. However you will find them on his CV if he is “honest” – Oh there’s that swear word again – NO not the one he screamed, at the top of his voice, in public 1, Damming report shows care of Island Children as inadequate. 2, Cowes Enterprise College, “Grim Catalogue of Failures” 3, Council’s… Read more »
Crouchie
“BE AWARE MR PUGH,BE VERY AWARE”. The days of the “Pughreich” are numbered as Political ideology on the Left and Right join forces so that the electorate of the Shanklin ward have no distractions on polling day. Will the legacy of a “Scorched Earth” policy your Generals and foot soldiers have provided Islanders over the past 5 years not be noticed? Black Dog’s comments reflect the mood… Read more »
wightywight

@crouchie:

….you’re not a Cllr Pugh supporter then, Crouchie?

;0)

WW

tryme

I don’t know, WW, why not ask him what he really thinks?

Crouchie
@wightywight Well observed Wightywight ,perhaps I need to be a bit more subtle with words I post!! So Here Goes, The Blitzkrieg attack by the Pughreich on Tourism,the disabled,Children,young people and families whilst making “Delegated descisions” to sell of the Islands heritage with no democratic debate ,Oh the list goes on and on and ONNNNN. Anyway it’s a scandal the Truth will come out eventually. I just… Read more »
wightywight

@crouchie:

Hmm… no, still not sure where your loyalties lie… can you be a bit clearer…

;0))

best

WW

tryme

Mincing your words again, Crouchie…

Don Smith

I will lay odds on that Mr Pugh get re-elected.

This is Tory Island.

All bets to Bet Fred.

However, I have been wrong before (with a bit of luck.)

GET OUT AND VOTE!

Cynic

@Don Smith “This is Tory Island.”

Maybe no longer as about 41% of Island electors are OAPs. They (we) are being penalised bycurrent government policies and already have condemned to being second-class pensioners in 2016.

Let Tories beware the fury of Grey Voters!

phil jordan
@cicero: I’m meeting a whole range of ages and there’s a common thread… Here’s one I had earlier today. I dropped a leaflet in Ryde – was out of the house about 2 hours – by the time I got home there was a message left on my answer phone. I called it back. I won’t disclose too much but it was an elderly (her description) woman,… Read more »
sam salt

@Phil, I once was very concerned about a person living near me who supposedly had carers going in. Their wellbeing was of concern to me and others so I alerted the member responsible for social services. I received a prompt reply telling me to keep my nose out. The member was a conservative councillor.

phil jordan

I’m ashamed Sam…that’s all I can say really. Not overly surprised….just ashamed.

Phil Jordan
Independent Candidate for Ryde North West

tryme

Possibly the councillor confused the necessity not to give out confidential info to a formally unauthorised person, with being able to say that the matter would be looked into. People can’t expect to get feedback after that contact, as it is regarded as important to keep the privacy of the vulnerable person concerned.

sam salt
Not like that at all tryme. I will not go into the matter further but I can assure you when I contacted the member I was not a “formally unauthorised person”. I knew the councillor, had worked with them previously and was in a position of some authority. I did not expect feedback on the outcome but did not expect to be told to B—er off because… Read more »
tryme
Absolutely not, sam salt, that is an appalling response. Whatever your position of authority, unless the vulnerable person had directly given their permission to the cllr that they could share confidential info with you, you would not have been given any. But you should have been assured it would be looked into. It sounds as though you had grounds to make a complaint. People should not be… Read more »
tryme
Every vulnerable and islolated person on the Island needs to have at least the phone no.of Age UK, (name change from Age Concern), tel.525282. They provide some free services as well as some with nominal payment; and general advice & signposting. Very friendly & helpful people. They would certainly make a phone call to social services on someone’s behalf, if necssary. Due to the effects of cuts… Read more »
tryme

‘Older’ person, I should have made clear, re. Age UK.

phil jordan

@Tryme:

Yes..very good point about Age UK Thanks for putting that out here..

In addition, they have some funding from the Council for this very activity you mention.

phil jordan
Independent candidate for Ryde North West

tryme

Just to add that if phoning IWC Adult social services, (there is some fancy name), to make a fresh contact with them, the number is 814980.

Cynic

@Phil Well done with the old lady.

You, the other Independents and other party candidates should ensure that your election material (written and oral) remind OAPs just how much the Tories are stitching them (us) up!

phil jordan
One thing that Martin Bell (helpfully) encouraged us Independents to do was to NOT campaign negatively… always be positive about your own views and idea and policies… It stuck in my mind very firmly. It’s a great temptation, I can tell you, to list the whole log of the past 4 years…you only have to read On the Wight to get an idea of the number and… Read more »
tryme
I can perhaps see why MB would have said that. People hear and themselves express complaints about the council all the time. But what they DON’T hear is the positive vision, how things could be very different. In the short time you have with someone when canvassing, it’s vital you get that unfamiliar picture across, and don’t just do the same old same old mud-flinging – I… Read more »
Cynic

@Phil “One thing that Martin Bell (helpfully) encouraged us Independents to do was to NOT campaign negatively.”

But surely that advice does not advise candidates to advise electors to ignore “Beware of the Dog!” notices. :-))

Mason Watch

Strange but true…… That is a definition that was lifted straight from a quote by a Pugh supporter commenting on the voter base in Shanklin thought to be the Boy Blunder’s saving grace. So I’m afraid the blue rinse is simply an acknowledged area of support. This gives so an indication of how they are regarded……..

tryme

I think we are a bit adrift from the position of your original remark & my response, Mason Watch! I know ‘blue rinse’ is a term that is used, but I’m saying I don’t think it is fair to do so, in whatever context, really.

Stewart Blackmore

I thought that this thread was about Priest -v- Pugh?

Chris Welsford

Stewart, The Bell Principles distinguish Richard from David:

“treat political opponents with courtesy and respect, challenging them when we believe they are wrong, and agreeing with them when we believe they are right”

That’ll be an interesting debate!

Stewart Blackmore

I agree, Chris, that it’ll be interesting. The problem is (as you know) that Pugh respects no one. The way he speaks to opposition Councillors in the Council Chamber is nothing short of disgraceful; it’s a combination of Cameron & Osborne with the sneer and the curled lip.

I honestly hope that Richard bursts his bubble.

Helen Benjamins
How utterly refreshing to read the comments by Phil Jordan, as a would be politician, he seems to rise above the bickering and playground back stabbibing usually displayed by election candidates. What party does he stand for? Party for common sense? A word of warning from a mainlander. When looking to see where the future lies for the Isle of Wight, please take a look at the… Read more »
Cynic

Another UKIP-ish anti-immigrant rant?

diogenes' barrel

I think you should go to Croydon before you make rash judgements Cicero.
From my observations this lady is simply telling the truth and giving cosy folk like you a warning.
Don’t forget Rome fell only a couple of hundred years after your namesake was around.

Cynic
Presumably then all the West Croydon miscreants described are non-Caucasians only? Crime figures suggest that Croydon is the 10th safest out of the 32 boroughs in London. Crime is lower in Croydon than it is across the whole of London. There are 95 Total Notifiable Offences per 1,000 population, which is below the London average of 120 offences. ……………………… BTW the decline of Rome was caused by… Read more »
diogenes' barrel

Not at all Cicero ; how did you deduce the ethnicity of ‘the people we have welcomed from overseas?’

So pleased you believe in crime statistics based at best on those people not too intimidated to report crime; soon be time for Santa.

Cynic
So unless she was talking about the Jewish community, non-Caucasian stereotypes were implied in the anti-immigrant rant e.g. “They do not mix, have their own shops, schools and places of worship.”…”no concept of rubbish collection, choosing to leave their waste in the street, the men treat women as inferior”…”after virtually ridding the country of T.B., the local hospital has now had to fund a new department to… Read more »
Robert Jones

A pretty unpleasant post from Helen Benjamin, tacked on to a long-expired thread, and totally irrelevant to the Isle of Wight which, for all its problems, doesn’t have an issue with race. And most of us would like to keep it that way. Making derogatory remarks like these about all races other than one’s own isn’t appropriate, and frankly I find it offensive.

martin william wareham

Robert I agree but it’s an ill wind that blows no one any good. On the Island UKIP Daryll Pitcher removed Conservative Edward Giles thank goodness and at least I wont have to listen to Giles droning on for the next four years.

tryme

Well said Robert & Cicero. When we start calling other racial groups a dehumanising ‘They’, we know we are in trouble. This is someone trying to impose some sentimental view of olde england onto the Island,and the fevered energy behind it is quite scary. And far too long each time!

Helen Benjamins
I am sorry that you find what I write offensive. Being of mixed race heritage myself it wasn’t specifically racist or aimed at any one ‘type’ of person. Back in my youth, England too was like the Isle of Wight and suffered little from race issues. [part of comment removed by moderator] It is a sad state we are in, the very fabric of our society is… Read more »
woodworker

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I think this sums up your poorly disguised bigotry. It is not the Chinese race who do all those things, it is the Chinese government. Generalising about a race is not on. I intend to report your comments, and I hope others do to.

Cynic
@HB ” Being of mixed race heritage myself it wasn’t specifically racist” Sociologists suggest that each wave of immigrants, once settled and integrated and reaching the second and third generations, object to later waves. The French Protestant Huguenots objected to Ashkenazi Jews escaping pogroms: in turn they objected to the influx of Irish who objected to the wave of Caribbeans who objected to Indians and Pakistanis after… Read more »