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Extension of the current Isle of Wight railway moves to the next stage

Isle of Wight Conservative MP, Bob Seely, is reported as having submitted expressions of interest to the Department for Transport last week to reopen two rail branch lines on the Island.

Isle of Wight Radio reported the MP was seeking a feasibility study to look in detail at:

  • Extending Island Line from Shanklin to Ventnor
  • Providing regular passenger services through Smallbrook from Ryde to Newport

The second option would be dependent on collaboration with the Isle of Wight Steam Railway (IWSR), who own the track.

Mr Seely said that most of the money needed for the feasibility study would come from the DfT, but that some extra would be needed to be put in.

IWSR: “No plans to extend westward from Wootton”
In response to the news the Steam Railway said,

“We note with interest the suggestion, put forward by Bob Seely MP, of connecting Newport to Ryde via the Steam Railway and Island Line. Whilst our Strategic Vision contains the long-term ambition to extend our line to Newport, this has significant financial and technical challenges.

“For the foreseeable future we, therefore, have no plans to extend westward from our current terminus at Wootton.”

IWSR: “Significant changes would be required”
Although they remain supportive of the development of public transport on the Island, they went on to add,

“Current safety legislation makes shared usage of our line challenging. Modern faster trains needed to operate a viable public transport link would not be able to operate alongside our historic wooden-bodied carriages which currently run at a maximum speed of 25mph.

“Significant changes would also be required to the infrastructure and signalling.”

The Steam Railway, do however, say they’re open to discussions with Bob Seely and the Dept for Transport to establish whether these challenges could be overcome.

Support for Island Line investment
The Steam Railway say they have a strong working relationship with their neighbours at Island Line and fully support their recently announced investment in new track and rolling stock.

Image: davidcjones under CC BY 2.0

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eddo
2, March 2020 2:47 pm

As the existing proposed works to use the new trains is at present One Mil underfunded, as the additional works at Brading had been the subject of an oversight I some how doubt and further rails to other towns

Rhos yr Alarch
2, March 2020 2:52 pm

Hopefully any feasibility study will not take pre-suppose the impractical idea of a huge viaduct over Fairlee Road and steep gradient down to Newport Quay….

Rhos yr Alarch
2, March 2020 2:52 pm

Hopefully any feasibility study will not pre-suppose the impractical idea of a huge viaduct over Fairlee Road and steep gradient down to Newport Quay….

chartman
2, March 2020 3:16 pm

Newport Railway Station? Who’s been smoking the Wacky Backy ?

Colin
2, March 2020 3:20 pm

Might be a little tight at Wroxall? No?

Tim
2, March 2020 4:03 pm

The track bed has been built across at Wroxall, there is a high pressure sewer main in the old tunnel and an industrial estate at the Ventnor end. Quite apart from that everywhere else is converting old branch lines to busways & cycle tracks but good old Bob’s vision of the island seems to be stuck in the 1950s somewhat like a slightly more recent version of… Read more »

Dalek
Reply to  Tim
2, March 2020 4:55 pm

Usual old twaddle from Tim. Trains are the future, not the past. Most of the old branch lines that could be converted, have been. I don’t think anyone is still doing that now (could be wrong though). Extending a railway, if possible, is a commitment to the future, not clinging on to olden days. I am not a supporter (in any form) of our MP, but this… Read more »

Benny C
Reply to  Dalek
2, March 2020 5:21 pm

Absolutely agree with that, if this is real and not just fantasy padding to fill the day and claim some more expenses then it’s very welcome and . But from the local knowledge shared below the challenges sound severe.

Tim
Reply to  Dalek
3, March 2020 5:04 pm

Usual low IQ infantile ignorant comments from Dalek, but in all seriousness wouldn’t it be simpler just to reinstate the No.39 bus?

marchowland
2, March 2020 7:36 pm

Any Extension … Re-Opening …. of the IOW Rail network is most certainly welcome. But, I’m always puzzled as to why the COWES-NEWPORT line is never up for Re-Opening Discussion, given the Cowes Catamaran passenger hub ….. AND the Universally agreed premise that one simply can’t move about freely on the Island ….

Rockhopper
Reply to  marchowland
3, March 2020 2:05 am

@marchowland – the railway would never get to the centre of Cowes or near the Red Jet terminal, as most of the old route has been built on up to where the cycle track starts now…

Mark L Francis
Reply to  Rockhopper
3, March 2020 12:47 pm

I should think the problem is the big tunnel under the Downs from Wroxall and making it safe.

railwayphil
2, March 2020 7:50 pm

Guys, I was at the January IOWB&RUG meeting when the SWR Sponsor gave an update to the upgrade and new trains’ plans project. I’ve had news articles on this published in every railway trade press publication except RAIL whose circulation has dived, written from the recording I made t that meeting. Ventnor extension was specifically ruled out. Newport was specifically ruled in as an aspiration. Note the… Read more »

wellsm
Reply to  railwayphil
3, March 2020 1:13 am

Did they say why Ventnor is ruled out, the return of the railway would work wonders for the town I am sure. Wroxall could be by-passed if necessary and I recall reading years ago that a small platform could be built at the Ventnor entrance to the tunnel. The new trains are I think only in two car sets, and they can be driven from either end… Read more »

prof
2, March 2020 10:43 pm

Presumably Bob has access to top secret plans that can travel through buildings and operate safely alongside the heritage rolling stock of the IWSR in total compliance with all legislation. Unfortunately, much as I would like to see the railway network extended, I think the two routes mentioned will prove totally impractical without a massive injection of cash and some pretty extensive demolition work. The old Ventnor… Read more »

micksey009
3, March 2020 8:03 am

Great initiative by Bob Seely. Well done!
Let’s have more can-do ideas rather than all the negative comment from the usual brigade.
A feasibility study would surely provide us all with an informed appraisal.

Tamara
3, March 2020 4:36 pm

For the sake of future generations and all life on Earth, we need to think of the best ways to tackle our transport problems. Currently most Island residents and visitors travel about the Island by diesel or petrol car. And all too often there is only one person in that car. We need to weigh up the transport options, find the least polluting solutions. Currently many people… Read more »

railwayphil
3, March 2020 7:20 pm

If the line was reopened back to Ventnor how convenient would it be for the town? Not very at its altitude. And a new water treatment station has been built across the tunnel mouth adding to the cost. I walked through the tunnel 10 years ago and it now houses water and other services which would need to be relocated. This is ignoring the Wroxall trackbed issue… Read more »

loveeveryone
4, March 2020 5:01 pm

To be effective in reducing car use needs very high turn up and go frequency without needing a timetable, and to get as close to where people want or need to go as possible. This can be achieved for the Isle of Wight Looking at impact rail improvements, often they have a great socio-economic benefit e.g. when the train service was improved through West Sussex in 2007… Read more »

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