Letter: Why I want to leave the EU – a ‘deceitful organisation’

This reader explains his reason for wanting to leave the European Union. His decision dates back to 1972.

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As a Leave voter my reasons for that decision date back to our entry into the EEC back in 1972. We didn’t have the ease of the Internet to look up facts about the foundations of the European Project, we had to spend much time in reference libraries to find our information.

Today, unless you give everybody links, they generally can’t be bothered to research it for themselves.

This has been proven by anti-Brexit demo supporters who, when interviewed, come out with things such as, they like the EU because it gave them the NHS. Well that shows their level of knowledge regarding the EU! Heath had promised we would not enter without the full-hearted consent of the British people, but proceeded to do just that.

Entry was constitutionally illegal
For all the people who keep on about the referendum being not legally binding, our entry was constitutionally illegal. Ross McWhirter invoked the Bill of Rights 1689 to show that the government did not have authority to give away the rights and liberties of the people. Tragically, he was assassinated before the matter was decided.

The European project was being pushed forward by Jean Monnet, a Frenchman who had spent considerable time in America working with US politicians. It will continue to move forward to a federated state. Heath knew this, Heseltine admitted he knew it, but they didn’t tell the people. Anti-marketeers knew it, but the public believed their politicians.

Manipulating the project
It is no surprise that declassified US government documents show that the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) and later the CIA were financing and manipulating the project.

Another founder of the European project was Joseph Retinger, who also set up the Bilderberg Group in 1954, a group created for the interests of the political elite, banks and global multinationals.

Bilderberg managed to hide in the shadows until the coming of the Internet, anti EEC supporters knew of them in the 1970s, but got scoffed at by the equivalent of the anti-Brexit supporters now. Even now they still ban any press reporting at meetings and reporters have been arrested for getting too close. You can now find reports of their meetings even in the Guardian, (a rarity in the 1970s) but definitely no information on internal discussions or who spoke.

Attending Bilderberg meetings
Typical attendees over the years have included Edward Heath, Kissinger, Rockefeller, Bill Clinton, Peter Mandelson, Tony Blair and Manuel Barroso.

Other important attendees have been George Osborne and his IMF friend, Christine Lagarde, he campaigned for her second IMF term.

Bankers supporting Remain
Remain supporters were prepared to accept the same banks responsible for the 2008 crash as financial supporters of the remain campaign. Goldman Sachs (called the Vampire Squid by Rolling Stone magazine) brought out their Alumni in support, Mark Carney Governor of The Bank of England, Malcolm Turnbull Prime Minister of Australia, Anders Rasmussem ex-Prime Minister of Denmark, and the man whose campaign they financed, Obama.

Their Alumni have featured well in the so-called democratic EU, for example, Mario Draghi President of the European Central Bank. Regime change, EU/Goldman Sachs style, placed the un-elected Mario Monti as the new Prime Minister of Italy. Same thing in Greece, Lucas Papademos, though not a direct Goldman Sachs man, had worked with them to hide Greek debt.

Leaving a ‘deceitful organisation’
Well that’s just some of my reasons for wanting us out of, what is in my view, a deceitful organisation.

The result confirms the competence and common sense of at least 17.5 million people in this country. Most of the remainers who I have come in contact with haven’t got a clue what the EU is all about or what its final goals are.

The only remainers who really know the truth are the multinational corporations and banks that are moving it forward on their own agenda in their own interests. The people who voted to support those institutions will not be considered when they reach their final goal.

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Wednesday, 6th July, 2016 1:04pm

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Simon Haytack
That’s an awfully long read for something that doesn’t really say anything. Not one remain voter I’ve personally come across has claimed the EU founded the NHS. The arguments for remaining in are clear. The ability to freely live & work in 27 member countries at any time. Access to a $16.6 trillion market of over 500 million people for businesses of any size. The availability of… Read more »
Adam
It says a great deal. Most importantly regarding the illegality of the original legislation which took us in the EU. No British politician has the authority to sign away sovereign powers, yet they did it anyway. As for access to markets, we will soon be free to trade with the entire world, including the EU. There is zero chance of the EU not making a mutually beneficial… Read more »
Sarah

Didn’t we have a referendum to vote out 2 weeks ago? Not sure what the purpose of this letter is a fortnight after the event.

Sally Perry

The letter was sent in response to this one published earlier in the week

billy builder

Sarah, I suspect that the author knows that the Leave campaign was based on deceit and lies, so his trying to justify his vote on a jaundice view of history.

I suspect he also knows that this decision will be revisited in the light of the UK’s financial and economic collapse now in progress

Suona

What no Illuminati?

nico

This piece makes fascinating and all too credible reading.

I give billy builder’s comments a miss nowadays, because the needle is stuck. They give me a shiver of Goebbel’s repetiton of the same phrases in a dead and life-draining manner, a closed and dominating mind.

newman

Godwin’s Law strikes again!

nico

Godwin didn’t intend that reference to Nazis be excised from memory and discussion. Just that it not be used hyperbolically or flippantly. Quite right too.

Snapper
I look forward to the day when Billy Builder and his fellow Remain campaigners overturn the iniquitous result of the recent referendum and return Britain to the glorious EU partnership of countries dedicated to mutual harmonious co-operation. Perhaps he can be persuaded to stand for election as an MEP representing the Socialist Workers Party and join his fellow European Parliament members in bringing us to the Promised… Read more »
dave6
Simon Haytack a link for you, listen carefully to it but here is a girl that claims the NHS is one of her reasons for being in the EU. Look for other Graham Phillips videos at the demos he asks everybody he interviews about the EU, what they know about it and many struggle to even give the Commission Presidents name. Did the people that wanted out… Read more »
Suona

Of course the illuminati don’t exist. That was what we call A Joke, which is the only reply the letter deserves.

Of course Bilderberg exists.

So does the former National Association for Freedom (NAFF)– a mob of rightwing nasties set up by the McWhirters [letter para 4] now known as the Freedom Assn, and associated with UKIP.

nico

Children say all sorts of things Dave6, (“a girl”). Any evidence about the NHS being linked with the EU would need to be about an adult – say, a ‘woman’. Or a ‘young woman’ …

I.Reader
From PE 1422, p.10 (Brussels briefing): “If you thought the EU referendum debate was ill-informed, demeaning, and divisive, get ready for talks on the UK’s continued access to the single market; there is much more to come. “Even if the Tory wish-granting fairy does eventually allow Britain to limit the unfettered freedom of movement guaranteed by the rules of the single market, other rules – on standards… Read more »
newman

Who knew the CIA was behind the EU all along, obviously not even the Leave campaign!? (dons tinfoil hat)

Roydini
Incredible isn’t it. 17.5 million people wanted out. I wasn’t brainwashed into that decision. I owned a substantial international trade and freight business for 25 years until 2008 and am well aware of the implications of Brexit. Here are some facts. 2000 staff in Brussels and Strasbourg earn more than our PM! in the past 20 years the UK has vetoed 55 EU directives. In every single… Read more »
dave6
Suona, the point was about constitutional law and the fact that Heath trampled on it. I was never a great fan of Tony Wedgewood Benn or the Labour Party, but I remember him saying that if we went into the EEC a lot of British industry would be destroyed . He made many other points on the EU that proved right. I can only say that because… Read more »
Stewart Blackmore

Dave, You have a loose grip of history if you believe that the EU destroyed industry you’re deluded.

Have you forgotten what the Thatcher & Major governments did to our industrial and engineering heritage? It was mass privatization that was responsible, not the EU (remember Maggie in her EU jumper extolling its virtues?).

dave6

Newman, do remainers never do any research. Do you really think that politicians even on the leave side were going to antagonise America by saying that they started all this. Well here is a couple of links, sorry they are not the Guardian.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/1356047/Euro-federalists-financed-by-US-spy-chiefs.html

https://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/pais/people/aldrich/publications/oss_cia_united_europe_eec_eu.pdf

Mark Francis
The major effect of the 1689 Bill of Rights was to establish the Sovereignty of Parliament. Never mentioned referendums if course. The NHS is nothing to do with the EU & it was the Leave camp that suggested the £350m a week would fund the NHS. However due to the impending recession, all that money is not saved; its just gone. In fact we are still paying… Read more »
dave6

Point taken Nico, I should have said young woman, but she definitely fits the snowflake generation requirements. If she had been at University I would have been sure she was doing Bob Geldolf studies, on why he doesn’t like Mondays.

nico

:) but we don’t get ‘boy’ used in the same way.

You’re not the only place in my life where ‘girl’ is used with no thought of the casual devaluation of being an adult woman, (no matter what studies), and sometimes I snap!

DaveIOW

That’s not strictly true, I’ve been called boy, lad and nipper in the last month alone.

I’m a 40-something bloke!

I’ve never seen it as an attempt at “casual devaluation of being an adult man”. It’s just a turn of phrase.

I’ve been called much, much worse!

nico

It depends on the relationships and situations involved. For example, if Cameron referred to a ‘girl’ on the shadow front bench, if a mature black man was called a ‘boy’ by a stranger in the street or by his mother, and a group of women going out and calling themselves ‘girls’…. I’m parking this one here now!

Man in Black

Hmm, going slightly off topic here, but Nico is sounding more and more like a former commenter here who hasn’t been around for sometime.

I’ll Try and see if I can remember their name ;-)

Colgate 90

Dear writer of this letter. Please ask someone trusted to explain confirmation bias to you.

dave6
Stewart Blackmore, Yes I do remember her pro EU stance, I also remember a rare (for the 1970s) report of her attending a 1975 Bilderberg meeting in Turkey. How much she followed her own policies or those of EU/Bilderberg, is a matter of personal opinion. One thing was certain, once she rebelled against the EU going too far she was finished. There has been a tendency for… Read more »
billy builder
Dave6, with the greatest respect the selloff of Royal Mail was the last of a long line of national assets sold off by the Tories over the last forty years as a means of balancing their books without asking the rich to pay their fair share. As an aside, did you notice the hypocrisy on the Daily Mail front page today, whingeing about the currency exchanges under… Read more »
nico

I certainly agree with you about the Tory sell-off of RM, though if an EU directive had something to do with it too, so be it.

Bit tired of your mantra “lies and deceit”, but I can see you’re very committed to it.

nico

I came across this article, entitled

“Brexit regrets? Yes – I wish I’d voted Leave”

from a Spectator writer.

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/07/brexit-regrets-yes-wish-id-voted-leave/

billy builder
I suspect that for every Remain voter who wished he/she had voted Leave there will be at least 5 Leave voters who wished they’d voted Remain and at least 10 non voters who wished they’d voted Remain. Lets recap the BREXIT achievements to date:- Pound fallen 15% against the Dollar and about 11% against the euro. With due to the fall being because the foundation of the… Read more »
shadow

get over it it was a fair and democratic vote as i sad before if you dont like it move to Iceland

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