PughTube: David Pugh Swearing Video Now Public (Update 3)

The video has been published now on YouTube.

Well, the PughTube video is now out in the open and on YouTube.

PughTube: David Pugh Swearing Video Now PublicThe situation around the video are probably well-known by now. That story was the fastest-commented story in VB‘s 4.5 year history, with over 150 reader’s comments being added within a single day. It now sits at just under 250 comments.

The previous posting, that VB published last Tuesday is sitting at an additional 141 reader’s comments.

Posted on the Conservative’s Facebook
The video has been posted on many social media site, including the Conservative’s Facebook page (click ‘Just Fans’ near the top of the screen)

If it’s gone by now, you can see it in the screen grab at the bottom of the page.

Ethical standards committee tonight
The Isle of Wight council’s ethical standards committee will be meeting at council hall this evening.

It’s currently unclear if this matter will be raised either during the official discussions, or the open public question time at the start of the 6pm meeting.

The video
Be warned that this video contains strong language and some may find it distressing.

Link to video posted on National Conservative Facebook page
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Aghast

That’s a lot more shocking than I thought it would be.

playdough58

Cripes! The perils of mobile phones and You Tube!

Bachelor

Hmmm, not good for Pugh. He should have resigned last week, better late than never eh Dave.

wabbit

Aggresive. If a police officer was present at the time I feel that they would have intervened thinking it would escalate into a street brawl.

Margie

Not impressed with Pughs behaviour. It’s not the fact that he lost his temper and swore, but that he did it in public, didn’t apologise, seemed to be laughing it off from what some other commenters have said and perhaps mis-used public services to organise a cover up.

Wightwatcher

the misuse of the Council’s communications team seems to have been glossed over. Simon can you ask them why they were involved if it was a private matter?

Weary but Happy

There’s a public forum at the beginning of Shanklin Town Council’s meetings (next meeting this Thursday 25th February). Members of the public can speak during this part of the Town Council’s meeting.

Does anyone feel that David Pugh has let the town council and the town of Shanklin too?

Weary but Happy

Let them down I meant to say

Holy Moley!
David Cameron should be interested in this, seeing as he’s so keen on getting to the bottom of the No.10 bullying claims. Can’t local Tories see what a liability Pugh has become? I don’t hold The Sun in particularly high regard but liked this quote from a psychologist PEOPLE in powerful positions like Gordon Brown tend to be under huge amounts of stress and can fly off… Read more »
Rush

Shows Pugh lacks control.

hungry eyes, hungry ears
Hmm. Heaven knows, her (indoors) and me have had the odd dust up over the years, and it must be admitted that some of them might have involved the use of what one might loosely term the F-bomb. But none of them has taken place in a public place. And neither her nor me goes out of our way to pass judgement on how other people should… Read more »
No.5

Is that it!!!!!!!!!!!!

amphion

Is that it no 5 you clearly have no problem with people effing and blinding at women at the top of their voices in public places, must be a friend of Pugabe

N0.5

I suppose it comes of living and running pubs for 20 years

Addmanniw
To be fair, what has ‘X’ done. The women with Pugh sounds distressed so the women he is shouting at may in fact be the aggressor in this. Think about it, how would you react if someone came up to your partner and said/did something and brought them to tears. I’d tell them to F-off to and walk away. Exactly what he did. That he is head… Read more »
Matt

All it would take is one person who has seen the video to complain to the Police about it for a much more efficient review of his behaviour…..

No.5

The police would have intervened, made sure nobody was hurt/offended (and there has been no complaint) and sent them on their way….they would’nt want to waste their time.

Any way this is all just diversionary fom the real crime being commited by Pugh and his cronies…the destruction of the Island.

But maybe thats why this topic is still going ;-)

islebeseeingyou
Those that were there all say that the lady he was shouting at was not the aggressor. The girl who was distressed did not wish to leave the event with the leader of the council (she had been telling others this during the evening). The lady being abused and her partner were kindly going to give the young lady a lift home, (which she had accepted) and… Read more »
N0.5

wow..it’s almost as if you were there !!!

Wightwatcher

Ms X doesn’t seem very keen to go with Pugh – he’s almost dragging her along as she is crying and wailing. Watch her feet.

fat boy fat

As you said we have know idea what caused the Lady to be upset in the first place, Mr Pugh did leave the car park with his arm round his partner no wonder the other lady made no comment i wonder what she had done in the minutes before,

Wightwatcher

Apparently she was seen crying in the venue with Pugh earlier on and she didn’t leave the party with Pugh, but with the journalist.

terry p

this is such a non-story

Al

storm!!, tea cup!!, he is after all only human, all of you telling him to resign, have your halos never fallen off?????

Rush

Pugh is the hypocrite?

Weary but Happy
The point is that people feel frustrated that they can’t do anything about the decisions being taken because they are not listened to. So they latch onto something which, in the scheme of things is not so damaging or important, but something which, if followed up, offers a possible chance to change the political set up on the IOW (and which gives them an opportunity to draw… Read more »
Weary but Happy

Also we have all had enough of hypocritical politicians.

Rush

What would happen if Andrew Turner behaved like that?

Wightwatcher
Can anybody imagine that he would? More to the point can anyone suggest what the sanctimonious Pugh would be like if he did? We have only to look at his various statements about the other Councillors taken to the Standards Board to have a guess. He believes so strongly in the Standards Board – why doesn’t he report himself so as to clear his name?
N0.5

I’ve met him..he’s quite a nice chap….just not qualified, educationally and mentally, to run a council

I Love My Cat

The only problem is you can’t take him at face value – why did he say that? what’s in it for him? etc.

I would never take anything David Pugh says as being the truth, I was beginning to think he was a robot until ‘the incident’, so at least we have had an indication that he’s human. Perhaps.

The widow's mite
He’s only human? No, humanity holds true to honesty, integrity, humility and self worth. Pugh has ambition, arrogance and cunning. If he were on a night out with mates, then the “street theatre” would have been dealt with by the police (assuming they heard it) He was at an official function as council leader. No one has compassion for a man who is happy to financially threaten… Read more »
muso-activator

I can imagine, The Turners may have played a part in winding the wonderboy up. This Tory head-off is not good for the party regardless, so neither of them win. I think the outrage is all merged into the fact that there is a catalogue of serious error under his reign that needs addressing.

Gruntled of Bembridge
It’s not just his behaviour in public that’s causing concern. Missapropriating money from Supporting People in breach of government grant conditions is a much more serious matter. Sources so close to the 4th. floor they’ve got carpet burns on their nose tell me that there is a letter circulating that proves they diverted £1.9m from Supporting People which they were not entitled to do. In my opinion… Read more »
muso-activator

This is my biggest anger point…False information….they have been doing it for forever! I personally know how bad they have done it to Ryde theatre, now I realise it’s just common practice.

jackie
At one of last years cabinet meetings DP announced that they had held back £3million from the childrens budget to go towards the re-organisation. Given that last year they cut the music service budget and this year they want to cut it completely (in fact that was the proposal last year too)The youth clubs are all under threat and are underfunded, targets for kids in care haven’t… Read more »
Norman
For those people who do think this is no big thing may I draw your attention to a County Press article in the 19 Feb issue, page 30, bottom of the page. A man was charged and found guilty to behaviour likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress after swearing at a family, Surely then Cllr Pugh’s BEHAVIOUR caused harassment, alarm and distress to the girl he… Read more »
DH
I believe this just goes to show the lack of experience and judgement Cllr Pugh has. In these times, we actually require a leader who has both of these. [comment removed by moderator] Any respect that Cllr Pugh had has gone (the way he struts around at my local gym like a malnourished cockrell he didn’t have much from me anyway). I’m hoping his local voters won’t… Read more »
Close But No Cigar

@ DH, you want to take care, he’s had at least one person I know arrested in the past on suspicion of harassment for posting similar comments on a social networking site, even though they were clearly made in jest. Of course, nothing ever came of it.

Ravenswood
This is on “U Tube” people (all over the world) Along with other classics such as run down Ryde & Sandown to the backing track of Dirty Old Town by the Pogues. So much for poster boy Dave with his toothpaste smile and Oxford rower haircut. If you empty your piggy bank Dave, you may just have enough to hire Max Clifford to clean up this mess,… Read more »
Wendy V

I moved here from London to get away from behaviour like that out on the streets late at night!

P45
I live and have done so for the last 7 years on Pan Estate. I fully understand the history and notoriety of my postcode. However, how times have changed. Pan is now a thriving community of mostly proud hard working people with a strong community spirit, excellent councillor, local school with an excellent Ofstead rating and several national awards and recognitions under its belt. I wonder how… Read more »
hacked off tax payer
i have read almost all off these comments. some seem totally irrelevant. wot does pan estate have to do with asking pugh to step down. and does nobody remember andrew turners ” partner” being in the paper for alledged bullying at work? there is no smoke with out fire. not one ruling council party has done anything good for the island. rubbish roads, decaying towns, same old… Read more »
Pedant

There are many hacked off taxpayers throughout the British Isles but it is the responsibility of the Isle of Wight Council to maintain the local public realm, not the responsibility of the MP and his partner/assistant.

Pedant

To finish what I was saying; therefore it is also irrelevant to intimate a connection between the ‘bullying’ incident (the Carol Dennett one, not the David Pugh one) and the state of the Island’s towns etc.

Paul B

I think Andrew Turner would do a lot better in this election if he publically disassociated himself from the council. They are charmless, witless and seriously incompetent, things will only get worse. If he doesn’t do this, I doubt he can hold the seat even with weak opponents. I cannot vote Tory while David Pugh remains leader.

mp's mrs

There was a young man called Pugh
Who took his new bird to a do
She got cranky & tearful
He gave Carol an earful
I cant say any more, he may sue

intheknow

has this come out from the gazette how has this come out? where is the video every time I go on to pughtube the video says its busy

Island shocker
If I could ask Pugh one question it would be this: How can you justify spending over a million pounds on ‘communications’ (employing a staggering 25 people to spin the council’s news) when you can’t find the money to keep Westminster House, Riverside Centre, Haylands Farm going? Frankly that is of more interest to me than this childish outburst – although I do think it’s bad enough… Read more »
muso-activator
It’s a great point Island shocker. The Comms team could not even make a poster when Soul 2 Soul and Roy Ayers played the Island……2 fantastic names to endorse Island venues and tourism. I didn’t know it was a 1 million dept at the time…The posters had to be made on a mates photoshop! Imagine theaters without an even an A3 colour photocopier to plug their own… Read more »
Steve

What’s the bit about ” … don’t do it”. (from the person trying to help)?

Couldn’t make out a few of the earlier words. there.

Island shocker
I don’t think the ‘events team’ are part of the communications office – they don’t seem to do much these days as the council no longer ‘supports’ events! They do the walking festival of course, but who knows what else they exist for? I was just looking at the national news for today and saw this quote from Tory Eric Pickles ”VOLCANIC AND FOUL MOUTHED ERUPTIONS OF… Read more »
muso-activator

Ahh I stand enlightened, thanks shocker. :)

Wightwatcher

Let’s all e-mail Eric Pickles with a link to this story and see what he has to say. eric@ericpickles.com

If the Tories ignore this when you look at what they are saying about Gordon Brown it is hypocrisy – but who would be surprised?

bored-now

Just getting the teenagers to put a link on their facebook to this video saying this is your Leader of Council controls your parents rates, controls your schools, he makes the decisions do you want this. If you dont want your kids to watch it then it offensive – is it not ? – do you want your kids to hear this

subo
it was interesting to hear about that letter regarding the misappropriation of supporting people funds. Is there any more on that? What are the possible ramifications if it turns out to be true? Will there be an official enquiry of some sort leading to perhaps fines on the people responsible. Potentially, i think this could be very heavy and not something the Tories would want just before… Read more »
Victor Meldrew
It means they have to spend it on housing related support and not on anything else. If they failed to take proper advice before they took the decision – which might be determined as Wednesday or whenever the decision was taken, it might be construed as acting without due diligence which, if that were the case, could leave those who took the decision open to legal action… Read more »
naughtynaughty
so whose going to own up to putting that video on youtube then? jason kay apparently recorded it, but if you read the title it makes out as if its rachels ex.i find it very hard to believe he would do that.pugh probaly swore in frustration/anger/whatever but why has the video appeared now then? my money is on jason kay.he had his big chance last week to… Read more »
Pardon

Listen again, I think Carole says ‘Jay are you leaving?’ not ‘leave them alone’

naughtynaughty

re: pardon

think it says jay can you leave……im guessin the next bit says……us alone or please

Rush

Does the island want The Council Leader to resign?

Wightwatcher

If so somebody has to make a report to the Standards Board. Surely even Pugh couldn’t be so shameless as not to resign under those circumstances. Morale has never been so bad at County Hall and they have a culture of bullying. This just confirms what it is like under this regime – the mask has slipped.

Hazel wyld

I think it`s time we all put this one to bed.
If the Councillor is question has not offered his resignation by now it is unlikely he intends too.
I am far more concerned at the fate of my severely handicapped daughters day centre and the possible loss of her respite care, these are the really important issues facing us all right now.

Rush

Hazel, He should not have put you in this position the first place.

Rush

in the first place.

Hazel wyld

Well I can`t argue with that, it still seems unbelievable to me that in this day and age any council would target the most vulnerable people in their society..If I am struggling to budget and I have been in the past, my first thought is not what can I take from my defenceless daughter to make up the deficit!

N0.5

because people are much more upset about the word F#CK than they are about handicapped and mentally/physically/educationally challenged people.

This story has bought out the very worst in people..its almost like working for the Daily Mail

Rush

How powerful is that!

Rush

Well done Hazel

Rush

The F#ck word is only the tip of the iceberg with this Leadership.

N0.5

actually its the last drop in the gutter

Rush

You could also say that.

Wightwatcher

Hazel, you have done agreat job of highlighting how cruel and heartless this council are. If Pugh doesn’t resign then he is also a first rate hypocrite – no surprise there then.

I will be thinking of you and your daughter tomorrow night – if those tories go ahead with the cuts they have announced they should all hang their heads in shame.

Gruntled of Bembridge
Hazel – All is not lost. People are still working to convince this council, not only how wrong they are but how flawed and corrupt is the information on which these decisions are made and that they have failed in their statutory duty in not carrying out an Equality Impact Assessment under the DDA. I am aware that Yvonne Hossack is taking an interest – it would… Read more »
Wightwatcher
County confused and depressed strikes again! Look at this story which says that Pugh apologised – when he very clearly didn’t. They are in the Council’s pocket – dependant on them for advertising income in these difficult times. It can’t be healthy A VIDEO of council leader Cllr David Pugh’s outburst outside a Valentine’s Ball has been posted on internet site YouTube. In the video Cllr Pugh… Read more »
lol

Well, maybe instead of focusing on what happened outside (as shown in the video), maybe you should think about what may have happened to lead up to the incident… ;)

bigg market
It always amazes me that our Political Leaders both national and local often only have to resign over incidents like this rather than on their competence in running whatever they are charged with doing. Like many here I am horrified by the proposed Budget Cuts but if Pugh resigns over the incident in Cowes will it make any difference? We had the chance last year to vote… Read more »
Rush

Pugh`s Leadership has got worse.

Rush

It is about Pugh`s conduct as Leader.

mojo
It does not matter what happened to lead up to this “incidence”. The fact is that Mr Pugh is the leader of the council (unfortunately) and should behave in a manner fitting to someone of this standing and not behave like a foul mouthed, hot headed, lout. He obviously does not have the self-restraint required and should resign. I heard him state that he regretted the incident… Read more »
I Love My Cat

Maybe he can redeem himself a little by showing some common sense and humanity at Wednesday’s full council meeting by listening to the alternative budgets put forward.

Any changes to the Conservative budget cuts proposals will no doubt largely be politically motivated but that is to be expected. There might even be mutiny in the Conservative ranks but I wouldn’t like to bet on it.

Matt
Jason@ Iwgazette.co.uk
Right, I want to get some facts on the record and explain the reason for not running this story and the personal attacks against myself. I have spent the whole weekend listening to what everyone has said. Personally attacking me, attacking Rachael and everything else. I have found it offensive and somewhat sailing very close to the edge. I was party to Friday night and I can… Read more »
Goose Island
I believe some people have been very harsh on both you and The Gazette.It’s probably out of frustration that the leader of the council appeared to be being protected by the press( apart from Ventnorblog,of course) and people were relying on The Gazette to cover the full story as you were there and knew the full facts. Reading this I can see you were too close to… Read more »
Victor Meldrew

Seems fair enough to me Jason. Regretably the blame is not being put where it belongs. I’ll still take the gazette – if nothing else the price is right – and it covers the important issues like the draconian cuts in social care and support.

Bear

That clears the air a bit. Well done Jason.

annonymous
Jason appears to say that he made a move on Racheal, or that he wanted to. Maybe he should have thought twice about doing that with someone elses girlfriend. and yes, girlfriend. David and Racheal have been seeing eachother for a while. it was not a first date, just a first public function. David clearly lost his temper which he should not have done. But then if… Read more »
islebeseeingyou

Jason I believe acted well after the event, he was there, perhaps involved, didn’t publish anything about, not even a photo in the paper. The girl was upset, Pugh acted badly. Leave Jason alone he has told you his side of the story which is more than Pugh is doing.

annonymous
as i said im not attacking Jason personally. Im simply questioning his role in events, just as many others are questioning Pughs role in events. Jason did publish a mock agony aunts letter in the Gazette which seems calculated to humiliate and antagonise. Just as david is in a public position, to a lesser extent so is Jason. He is the editor of a paper which is… Read more »
annonymous
just to clarify my first post, when i say it seems odd that Jason videoed the scene, it seems odd that he just happened to have his camera or phone out at just that moment, ready to record. He clearly says he was not there to report on the incident. In the video Jason appears to be leaving. He is stood next to a car. Maybe having… Read more »
Hazel wyld
I have only just read Jasons comment and have to say I agree with him, if he was, as he said personally involved in the events of the Valentines ball then of course he was absolutely right not to write a report of these events in the Gazette..he was in a very difficult position….incidentally I found the letters from the Ed to Baby face very amusing…Don`t let… Read more »
John

He could, of course, have got someone else to research and write the story if he felt too compomised to do it himself. The BBC do lots of stories about people and parts of the BBC, but they are not written by the people the story is about.

annonymous
yes the letters to babyface were amusing. but they were also calculated to humiliate. The gazette has gone down significantly in my estimation. The County Press published an article which discribed what they knew, with a statement from Pugh. maybe they should have investigated further before publishing, but at least they didnt just try to be clever by writing a stupid letter. Jason seems to have been… Read more »
amused

Is this the same Jay that got done for photographing Heather Mills? 137 counts of deception? This situation would be a corker to stir up if you were in a position to do so and had a bit of ambition.

annonymous

yep thats the bloke. and while he says all that was 15 years ago, so what. its still on record and leopards never change their spots. they just disguise them a bit

annonymous
I say thats the bloke, but then he is also called James Purkiss apparently. 5 mins on google shows he uses various names, Jay Kay, Jay Kaycappa, Jason Kay, Jason Kaycappa, and James Purkiss which is probably his real name. Hes also been convicted of tresspassing during the foot and mouth crisis and spreading the infection. I know lots of people have said leave him alone, but… Read more »
YouPughbe

Having read the spiel I am still left wondering why the gazette isn’t providing a service to the community, given the amount of community service its editor has done.

YouPughbe
Well Jason or Jay or James, fair play to you for publishing your account in this weeks gazette, what the Island needs is a paper that is willing to speak out and isn’t afraid of the council. But as to your motives for doing so, I fear they are hardly in the spirit of what is good for the Island. In your post above you describe Rachael… Read more »
gruntled of Bembridge
Well well well, the bad behaviour and bullying appears to be catching! An e-mail from a council officer is blaming the providers for daring to inform their clients of the councils plans to remove their support. I suppose the officers concerned would much prefer to keep their plans secret and for providers not to tell staff their jobs are at risk. I can only assume that they… Read more »
jackie

Blimey, talk about a brass neck, is he totally oblivous to how people feel about him??? He is probably the most hated man on the Island right now. What can we do to get through to these people that we want him to go and that we consider his ‘misdemeanours’ far worse than Suttons.

Bluebird
comment following Gruntled of Bembridge’s…. Emails from officers were sent out to staff 2 weeks ago when they found out that staff had informed service users of the implications of what the budget proposals would mean to them. They were warned not to speak to service users and their families and made insinuations of leaks, this was AFTER the papers were made publically available. This in my… Read more »
Jackie

My previous comment was in response to Matt’s not Jason Kays

Mo

Time to go David. Once Jason’s additional information becomes more widely known he will be forced to resign?

Those at County Hall who have worked so hard to protect him will only allow this reluctantly, but as Jason says, they all made their choices. He won’t be the first man to lose his job because of a woman and error of judgement, he won’t be the last

Kerri Trickey

Why doesn’t everybody here who has ever said the “F word” in a momentary outburst of anger resign their jobs too?

Davey Jones

Maybe because our “office of appointment” isn’t in a high public profile where we also deem ourselves to be the arbitrator of all things moral??

Mrs A

Maybe also because swearing in a momentary outburst of anger and using it in an aggressive manner are completely different things. Ask yourself,Kerri,how would you feel if a man shouted obscenities at you in an aggressive manner,how shocked you would feel.

Jackie

Because as Davey Jones points out we don’t all have high profile jobs but more importantly David Pugh takes a high moral stance on everyone else and he should abide by his own rules otherwise he would be a hypocrite.Which is exactly what he is proving to be.

Wendy V

Pugh’s “these things happen” explanation just makes me think, Where? When? Is that how Tory councillors address each other in their spare time or something? I’ve never shouted at anyone like that, and no-one’s yelled at me like that. I come from a working class background, and I’m not claiming to be an angel, but seriously, I would never talk to anyone like that, publicly or privately.

Mrs A

Same here,Mary.Shouting at anyone,let alone swearing at them is totally unacceptable behaviour.

Island shocker

If they were in partially charge of law and order then they would Kerri. Don’t you read the papers? This sort of behaviour is worthy of an asbo or a court date. You and I are not public figures in positions of responsibility.

Den Clare
Having just returned from two weeks holiday I was extremely perturbed to see the “media frenzy” in the County Press and elsewhere about David Pugh’s recent colourful use of language at a private function. I know David as a near neighbour and although I am a non political animal, I have never heard David raise his voice in anger or show any signs of temper loss whatsoever,… Read more »
YouPughbe

So if you were there how about answering a straight question. Was he drunk?

Shobba

I find most men wouldn’t want to be photographed out with another mans wife. And definitely not if you are a christian council leader with a room booked nearby.

Anna

Ah, Shobba. You have a very bad mind. There’s a perfectly innocent explanation I’m sure…. And I’m sure the Standards Board will hear it.

Davey Jones

David,look into my eyes, the eyes, the eyes, not around the eyes, don’t look around my eyes, look into my eyes, you’re under.
You are an arrogant,incompetent,scheming,bullying foul mouthed b****d….oh, and you have a girlfriend at last.
Three, two, one…you’re back in the room.

Davey Jones

Mmmmm…has the master of the “one off unfortunate turn of phrase” been putting the pinch on Elaine??
Three, two , one…you’re back in the labour exchange.

Council Employee Too Scared To Be Named
I welcome those who support Cllr Pugh, as it is important to hear all voices, especially from eye witnesses. We have had plenty from those who are aggrieved at the situation. However Den, I think you are wrong in your attitude, definition of the role of those involved and oblivious to the public upset and trauma caused by Cllr Pugh and the council which is currently under… Read more »
Anna
The Council Chairman’s charity ball is never a “private function”. Anyone can buy a ticket and tickets are advertised publicly. That may make people feel a bit less special for having attended but it is true. If the Leader of the Council attends the Chairman of the Council’s event he is from everyone else’s point of view (including the invited press), attending an official function. This is… Read more »
wightwatcher
David, look into my eyes, look into my eyes, the eyes, the eyes, not around the eyes, don’t look around my eyes, look into my eyes, you’re under. Rachel is going to go and sit on Jason’s knee, she knows she is the editor of the Gazette because you have just introduced her to him in front of Den and Elaine but you have been very clever… Read more »
YouPughbe

Perhaps she did in fact want to go to the hotel but she just didn’t realise it.
If Dave had had his wits about him he could have anticipated this and got Den to persuade her that this was her role,and destiny, earlier in the evening. And that her sacrifice would have been for the greater good of the Island.

hungry eyes, hungry ears
David is a consummate politician, by which I mean that he knows how to play the political game and sell the smooth polite exterior, and one would not expect him to do anything else during a function like this – to expect anything different would be an act of naivete on a par with believing that there are no losers in a pyramid gifting scheme such as… Read more »
Another One Too Scared To Be Named
Sorry Den, you can’t just air brush this one out, dismissing it as a minor discretion or a media frenzy. All of this mess is of David’s own immature hand. A stroppy hissy fit of temper, because he couldn’t get his own way or a girl of his own on that fateful night. I’m sure he’s a very nice charming young man when he’s sat there next… Read more »
Curious of Shanklin
You say you think that David Pugh’s political career is dead and that you think it is a tragedy. Many people have far more to deal with in life AND through no fault of their own, unlike DP. Why do you consider it to be a tragedy? If things go wrong for him now, he will just have to think again about the direction he is heading… Read more »
No.5

Does this mean God works in the Media…we are all in trouble

Curious of Shanklin

Presumably the meaning is that God works through the media as He obviously doesn’t work IN the media. Nitpicking again.

Emma

Haha, yeah right, half the Island would be out of jobs!! :)

Norman
We all know that Pugh is ambitious for a political future, he will stop at nothing and not bother who he tramples on to reach his goal, he will take on any opponent and win even if by foul means. But look only 20+ people put him in this position of power the hangers-on, the frightened, the ambitious, the power crazy and the weak. He will report… Read more »
Black Dog

I for one have emailed David Cameron at CAMEROND@parliament.uk

annonymous
Jill Wareham is the prospective parlimentary candidate for the Liberal Democrats. Mark Chiverton is the same for Labour. David Pugh is not up for re-election this year, but without the support of a conservative MP for the island, he would find his job quite a bit harder, with more opposition. The MP is something we can change at the next general election, this year. Lets get a… Read more »
leftie

tories are split three ways The council Tories The council Independent (Tories) and the Andrew Turner Tories “a house divided”

annonymous
then divided they fall…. lets vote out the tory MP first. Then in a couple of years we can do something about the council. Lets have a non-tory united council and MP. If this story has shown us anything, its that the tories are not to be trusted and should not be allowed to remain in office. The first stage of getting rid of them is to… Read more »
mrs james

Well if any of you listen to Vectis Radio and the VR Phone In we should all be getting behind Peter Harris (EnglishPete as hes fondly known)and and helping him get ellected this time…
http:www.vectisradio.com/ go to their FaceBook page or the site discussion Board you can also get the Ohone In on Listen Again its worth listening to and may help people to decide…

Shobba's teenage son

English Pete? Is this the bloke who was always on da alec dyke show years ago. Great joker. Sheep no more, that was is catchfrase

Island shocker
Pugh seems to have been very economical with the actualite in his statement. Where was his apology to Carole Dennett? If we believe Jason the journo Pugh’s claim that she was his ‘girlfriend’ appears to have been untrue. The fact appears to be that his was indeed a new relationship that didn’t get beyond the first night out (can he get the dress back?) What seems to… Read more »
annonymous
The facts appear unclear, and why would anyone beleive Jason over David? it seems Jason had a vested interest in what went on. He was certainly involved in what happened. I think speculation should stop as to what happened, its clearly no ones buisness except those who were a part of it. David Pughs behaviour is the issue. However provoked he may or may not have been,… Read more »
Norman
Cllr Pugh will not resign nor will he be pushed, he and the rest of the set of cards are untouchable, calling for his resignation is not going to do a thing, the Tories are fully behind him. A petition stating the public are signing a vote of no confidence in him might shake them. Not voting for Andrew Turner at the next election (which I will… Read more »
mrs james

What about starting one of these then…
Surely we could get heard that way…
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/

Mr T

The ball really is in the Tories court now.

I don’t have a lot of faith in their ability to deliver on any of their electoral promises, if they can’t even apply their anti-bully proposal to party members contradicting it whilst in official capacity.

This is a spectacular own goal!

John
I’ve been looking at the issue of whether he can be brought before the Standards Board and I think he’s in the clear. Case law comes from Ken Livingstone’s jibe about a reporter being like a Nazi concentration camp guard. Ken was suspended for four weeks by the Standards Board, but appealed to the High Court. It was quashed as he was not on duty at the… Read more »
annonymous

i dont think it matters if he was on duty or not. he is a high council official. he should be forced to resign, and if the standards boards hands are tied, the voters should do it. A mass mail campaign to county hall would get it done. or protests. lets face it people protest for other things, why not this

Davey Jones
If we wait for him to do the decent thing , we’ll be waiting for a very long time. You prompted me to have a look at this case. It makes it clear that he is acting in an official capacity at all times when including “anything done in dealing with staff”. Rachael works for the council. Anybody who has seen the video and thinks he has… Read more »
Kerri Trickey

He’s the leader of a council, not ruddy Ghandi…we’re all only human.

annonymous
yes, he is only human. but i think for most people this is the straw that broke the camels back. Pugh should resign simply because hes rubbish at his job and inconsistent in his policies. This incident proves that he is not mature or in control enough to run a council. And as to the excuse that he may have had a drink, if this is how… Read more »
Goose Island

But he expects everyone else to behave like ruddy Ghandi.

mrs james

Kerri
Ive seen you on FaceBook are you a professional Objector to everything people object to…???
I can see you are a young girl but maybe you are very misguided about a lot of Island Issues…
I wish you Well…

No.5

Don’t you just love condesending people

Wendy V
Be a bit dull if we all held the same views, Mrs James. I first came across Kerri when she formed the ITAG group in support of wind turbines on the island. I admired her courage and gumption. She’s a very bright young woman who knows her own mind, and I really like the way she’s not scared to voice her opinion, even if it’s going against… Read more »
Den Clare

Hey Kerrie
One of the most sensible comments and you actually give your name. Well done!!
Den :)

Mo
Mr Livingstone was in his front garden wasn’t he? Pugh was attending the Chairman’s Ball as Council Leader. It was an official function and his foul mouthed abuse was directed at the Mp’s partner. Does that not make it official business? Repent David – I think you’ll find that the bible says you can only do so if you are genuinely sorry. In my opinion as a… Read more »
Arthur Sultan
Mr Livingstone was actually leaving a publicly funded event held at City Hall. However, in the case Mr Justice Collins said that acting in an ‘official capacity’ would include “when representing the Council” (see paragraph 29 of the judgment in the case). It is a question of fact and plainly does not just cover actions that will be carried by someone who has an official capacity. In… Read more »
Norman

I have heard that there is going to be a candidate on the Island standing in the forthcoming general election, he is well known and many have said if he stands they will vote for him, these are Andrew Turners’s voters but they are saying they will vote for anybody rather than suppost the Tories whilst Pugh is Leader of the council.

Mrs A

I think it would be a shame if Andrew Turner was voted out because of the actions of Pugh.He is an honest man which is pretty rare in politics and a credit to the Island.
He’s the only Tory I’d ever vote for.

leftie

what has he actually ever delivered on for the Island, ask the Vestas workers

Mr T

We had a review of ferry prices – which achieved nothing.

After two years of investigation at enormous cost to the tax payer, Mr Turner told us all to forget about the Undercliff scandal and move on.

Then there was the expenses affair… that embarrassing email from his partner… and now DP screaming abuse at her in a car park.

Some good headlines there at least.

Garth
I’d never thought I’d say it but I’ll be voting Lib Dems this time round – Andrew Turner is a nice, decent chap but had a minimal impact on the Island. And when the time comes when I need to vote in a councillor, I’ll be voting Independent and recommend others to do so. I want someone to represent my interests on this Island, the Tory administration… Read more »
peoplewatcher
|I don’t want to enter the discussion on Mr Pugh’s behaviour,(enough has been said about that already), but I want to defend Andrew Turner. It would be hard to find a more compassionate, principled and hard-working MP in the House. He is a constituency MP through and through and actually cares about people. No, he can’t wave a magic wand and solve all of the Island’s problems,… Read more »
annonymous
he may well care about the people, but i agree with the previous comments that he hasnt actually done much. Whatever the reasons for that, i would rather have an MP in place who can get things done. Andrew Turner always seems to have a good go at things, but doesnt quite get there. Im sure his heart is in the right place and he is a… Read more »
Jackie

Under a tory government the vast majority of us will be second class citizens. Especially if you’re a single parent. Not that labour has done a great deal to help single parents. The vilification of single parents has continued under them.

Garth
I agree with some aspects of what you’re saying, but the danger we’ve got with our Tory council is that it will have an affect on how people perceive our local Tory MP. Many of my friends and voters feel the same way. I’ve met Andrew on a couple of occasions. Yes, he’s a decent man but I believe he should be responsible for sorting out that… Read more »
george jeffries

According to a letter in last weeks County Press Andrew Turner didn’t vote against the Iraq war he abstained page 38 .

ebod

@ george jeffries
I don’t buy the CP, do you mind letting me know who wrote the letter and what it said?

It seems Andrew Turner actually voted “moderately against” the invasion:
http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/mp.php?mpid=1654&dmp=1049

This is how he voted for other things:
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/andrew_turner/isle_of_wight

MrsS
Mr Turner maybe a decent man, however I have contacted him several times re youth (future voters) related matters , he has never gone further than an inital response – although he did manage an electronic christmas message! In my work capacity I have seen several letters written to other departments within the IWC demanding they answer queries/complaints from constituents and do so in a way that… Read more »
mrs james

The only hope of saving Andrew is if Mr Pugh goes and goes quickly now…
I like Andrew to but he will have to loose my Vote if Pugh stays Sorry Andrew …

Mr Pughniverse

I have just found this video called Pugh Monday on YouTube!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsBs-Dl91dE

Jackie

Mr. Pughinverse that was so funny, who ever put that together well done very clever and thanks for the laugh

I Love My Cat

Mr Pughniverse, athough some might find this new video offensive, it is an effective way of underlining what is happening. Humour is a great way of communicating. Good on you.

watchdog17
Lets hope that someone on this website picks up a pen and reports Mr. Pugh for a breach of the code of conduct (treating others with respect) While all concerned appear to be treating this appalling behaviour as a private matter it is now well and truly in the public domain and must be actioned. You have a Standards Committee on the Island who will look into… Read more »
annonymous
the standards committee have looked at it, and they take the stance its a private matter. At the end of the day, its unlikely this will be investigated properly, although i suspect it may have been dealt with internally to avoid embarrassment for the island torys. We should move on to something that really matters like the budget whilst keeping in mind the apparent character of the… Read more »
islebeseeingyou
How do you know what the Standards Committee are doing or what they are thinking? If anyone from this committee has spoken to you about the case they themselves are in breach. Ethical standards please comment on this matter – comms and legal are supposed to be looking at this blog. Now is the time for a comment. The boy was at an official function, in an… Read more »
Bass is Best

Hope this helps?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornet

Funny, I don’t see his name towards the bottom of the article !

YouPughbe

This is the same standards committee that considered a councillor spitting in the street too trivial to warrant an investigation. And the same police in the cozy little Safer Neighbourhoods Partnership with the council, to tackle anti social behaviour!!
Pugh is setting an outstanding example in that respect isn’t he? Double standards methinks, just like the (Double)Standards Committee

Agent59200_5

i have received information from hawthorne to suggest this is not over yet.there are some conservative councillors who are very unhappy with his behaviour.the matter will not rest.message ends.

watchdog17

I sincerely hope so. As the man clearly has a problem