Island Lib Dems Disappointed With Referendum Result

Smear campaign against Nick Clegg clouded real issues says IW Lib Dems

Following the referendum on change to the parliamentary voting system last week, the Isle of Wight Liberal Democrats have released the following statement. Ed

Jill WarehamIsland Liberal Democrats are very disappointed but not surprised at the outcome of the Referendum.

Jill Wareham commented that, “The real issues being presented by the Referendum were rarely heard as the smear campaign against Nick Clegg gained momentum.

“It is unlikely that we shall have such an opportunity for electoral reform any time in the foreseeable future.”

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14 Comments on "Island Lib Dems Disappointed With Referendum Result"

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Lido

It could be that people realised that there is already a Tory party & that we don’t want another one! Association with the conservatives is as toxic as debt.

A glimmer of hope, less than 30% of the potential electorate voted to keep FPTP, the rest wanted electorial reform, but not a miserable little compromise.

Next time, fight on a platform you believe in, the people might follow.

daft old duffer
What I find indefensively arrogant about the yes campaign mob is their assertion that they lost a) because we silly no lot didn’t understand the issues,b) that we were misled by the attacks on Clegg into not thinking for ourselves and c) that we are all,unlike those who wanted the yes answer really all rather stupid. You lost the argument,you ‘yes’ people because the nation either are… Read more »
playingthenumbers
What I find indefensible is the mockery of democracy that leaves the majority of people unrepresentative in parliament. Most general elections are fought & lost in a number of key marginals, leaving the hegemony of the current system, occasionally made interesting by gerrymandering or boundary changes. Who was the key demographic that newsnight suggested during last year’s elections – motorway man? What good is that to me?… Read more »
playingthenumbers
What I find indefensible is the mockery of democracy that leaves the majority of people unrepresentative in parliament. Most general elections are fought & lost in a number of key marginals, leaving the hegemony of the current system, occasionally made interesting by gerrymandering or boundary changes. Who was the key demographic that newsnight suggested during last year’s elections – motorway man? What good is that to me?… Read more »
daft old duffer

Exactly the sort of lib-fascist arrogance I was talking about.Summing you up – if anyone doesn’t agree with your enlightened views they are ipso facto stupid.
Thank you for translating that phrase with the long words though

Vix

Statistics which I viewed today broke down the AV vote into which constituencies voted YES and NO. The result – the vast majority of the country voted no, but Oxford and Cambridge both voted yes.

I am more than happy to be associated with the people who live and work there.

playingthenumbers
By your own admission you say you’re old & daft, but in case you missed it, the headline article was ‘Island Lib Dems disappointed…’ The article contained an assertion from their former PPC that there was a smear campaign against Nick Clegg, which she said frustrated the No campaign. Obviously I tried to address my comments around the article – doh! Secondly, I proud to say that… Read more »
Lilly
I appreciate how supportive of various campaigns and hard working Jill Wareham is as a Lib Dem councillor but I think Nick Clegg made the wrong decision going into coalition with the Conservatives, simply because ‘he couldn’t work with Gordon Brown’, politics should be about more than personalities and he let his personal ambition and prejudices get in the way of his party. Now he’s entered into… Read more »
adrian nicholas
Shame about idea of AV- yet hardly suprising given popular public perception of public schoolboy and banking family Clegg being essentially same as Tories. Timing of AV debate & referendum suited tories and obscured real debate about threats to ethos and practical nature of real committment to Public Seervice as manifest expression of individual worth commonsensely enhanced by community and share. The implicit notions of trust and… Read more »
James Arrow

Clegg talks about “re-building trust”, No chance! You had your opportunity and you blew it with this coalition. No-one will ever trust the Liberals again,so prepare to go into obscurity.

Daveq
Being an ex Liberal (not Lib Dem) I was sorry that the Yes campaign was not more robust. I find it a little surprising that Jill Wareham is critising the so called smear campaign against Nick Clegg, he deserves all he gets, in many constituencies (including the IW) there were many thousands who voted Lib Dem to keep the tories out, what happens, we have David Cameron… Read more »
Radonel
The overwhelming No vote was a victory for good old British commonsense. That the losers are still trying to blame ‘dirty tricks’ and ‘smears’ shows just how far removed from reality they are. Winston Churchill, a Liberal MP for 20 years, said about AV in 1931 that it took account of “the most worthless votes of the most worthless candidates”. That still rings true 80 years on.
Texlahoma
Daft Old Duffer – I thought it was the NO campaign that said we were too stupid to understand AV (it’s too complex, they said). At the end of the day the NO campaign was better run and better financed – even if the majority of their adverts were full of misleading info. Radonel – careful about quoting Churchill. He also didn’t like FPTP, saying, “The present… Read more »
daft old duffer

Point taken Texlahoma.I was responding to the tenor of the morning after comments on the Blog.
I suppose some people on both sides found it easier to throw mud rather than reasons.