‘Conservatives score massive own goal as they punish pensioners’ say Labour

The announcement that if Conservatives are voted back into government, pensioners will need to surrender the value of those homes to meet care costs could well have sent shock waves through the retired population of the Isle of Wight today.

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Isle of Wight Labour share this latest as part of the 2017 general election campaign. Ed


Labour Candidate on the Isle of Wight, Julian Critchley, said today that the Conservatives appeared to be trying to help Labour close the polling gap by attacking their own key voting group: pensioners.

As part of their manifesto, the Conservatives unveiled new plans to include the value of pensioners’ homes when deciding eligibility for help with care costs.

Surrendering homes to meet care costs
As 75% of pensioners own their own homes, this essentially means that far more pensioners will need to surrender the value of those homes to meet their care costs.

Mr Critchley said

“It really is remarkable that the Tories have announced this policy, which will hit the great majority of pensioners very hard indeed. It effectively means that pensioners requiring care support will no longer be able to pass the value of their homes on to their families.

“Coming hard on the heels of the Tories’ abandonment of the triple-lock on pension value, and their manifesto commitment to remove the winter fuel allowance from most pensioners, this is a concerted attack on pensioners as a group.

“Considering that pensioners have traditionally been a heavily Tory-leaning group of voters, this is either a catastrophic misjudgement, or remarkable complacency on the part of Theresa May. Frankly, I can hardly believe our luck. It’s a massive own goal by the Tories.

“This election is now the clearest choice this country has seen in decades, between a Labour Party which guarantees no tax rises for anyone earning less than £80,000, and a Tory Party which is squeezing young people, working people, and now pensioners, to pay for huge tax cuts for their corporate friends.”

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Thursday, 18th May, 2017 9:00pm

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Suruk the Slightly Miffed

What it will mean, in practice, is people making sure they blow everything over £100k before the Government get their grubby mitts on it.

Cruises, flashy cars, luxury holidays, etc.

You can’t take it with you, and now, thanks to Mrs May, you can’t pass it on to your kids, so you may as well enjoy it while you are still fit enough to do so.

Phil Jordan
sti: Actually, it doesn’t mean that and is, in fact far more serious. For the first time ever, your home will be taken into account for asset calculations during any financial assessment for social care provision (still not the case for ‘continuing – ie, health – care provision however). Until this changes, you home is excluded from financial calculations (if you or your partner/spouse live in it)… Read more »
Suruk the Slightly Miffed
I’m well aware that my home is up for grabs and I would, indeed, sell up. As for the bucket list thing? I fail to see what the Government can do if I sell my home and blow the lot on said “bucket list” before I require any care. You appear to be talking about “gifting” assets to descendents. I’m talking about blowing it on holidays. Good… Read more »
Phil Jordan

sti:

I really do urge you to research ‘deprivation of assets’.

Phil Jordan
Suruk the Slightly Miffed
**”Your local authority must show you knew that you may need care and support in the future when you carried out this action. It is therefore an evidence based test of foreseeability and intention. “*** In other words it would be very difficult for a fit an health person with no reason to believe they *may* require long term care who decides to blow their estate *in… Read more »
Phil Jordan
you missed out this bit: “For the Local Authority to take action, they would need to show that your intention at the time of disposal was to exclude the property from means testing to avoid care fees. **It is usually quite difficult to provide evidence of your intention** and in absence of adequate evidence, the judge may reach the conclusion that the transfer was to avoid means… Read more »
Stewart Blackmore

Sounds like you may be voting Labour, Phil? If so, welcome.

hermit
I just read this comment on IWCP about the Island Tory MP nomination, and thought it was brilliant. Here it is, cut and pasted. A tax on dementia sufferers, and a person who considers killing foxes for fun is normal and an enjoyable past time. The thousands of Tory voters on the Island will lap this up and vote him in anyway. They want the poor, the… Read more »
juliancritchley
I disagree. There are many, many people who vote Tory for a lot of reasons which aren’t about being “bad people”. Sure I disagree with Tory policies, and of course there are some things which are beyond the pale : bigotry, dishonesty or corruption. But such people are a minority of Tory supporters, and all parties have bad apples. The way to change the reality of a… Read more »
jamboree
I was thinking “what a sensible reply” and only then realised after the fact that it was our Labour candidate. It’s so very true. You only need to stumble onto Twitter to see that there is a fast-growing divide in opinion and fast-vanishing centre ground. Vocal Labour supporters shout “selfish, nasty, fascist, bigot” while the vocal Tories hurl “commie, scroungers, envy”. Whatever happened to debate? All I… Read more »
paludian

Amen.

hermit

Julian, I am torn between Labour or Green, and you’ve just scored a massive own goal of your won!

hermit

own, not won, stupid autocorrect

Geoff Brodie

You could at least tell us what the own goal was !

Don Smith

Yes! A typical own goal (So stupid) and with a large majority they will hit the venerable even harder in time.

This Mrs May is another Thatcher, obviously with less common sense. Labour will do well, even with Mr Corbyn.

Suruk the Slightly Miffed

She comes across as more Marie Antoinette than Margaret Thatcher.

Yes, I know the whole “let them eat cake” thing is apocryphal, but May repeatedly appears to be someone who doesn’t have a clue about the lives of normal folk.

Folk who don’t wear £1000 leather trousers and diamond studded shoes.

profoundlife

Better that someone aged 25 should pay a lot more tax so someone with a £1m house aged 75 gets free care? Really?

Suruk the Slightly Miffed

This isn’t really about people in £1 million houses though, is it?

Someone who can afford such a home will probably be able to afford their own care without breaking into their bricks-and-mortar assets.

This is about people of ordinary means with modest homes in the £200,000 bracket.

DebbieUptheRoad
The tax bill from the Tories last year – for a 25yr old earning eg £22,000 pa – increase of £112.00 income tax/ni PLUS council tax increase of 5%. Tories have been tight lipped about reserving the right to raise tax and NI again if they win… Compare with the 1p extra in tax to fund Lib Dems proposal – Equates to approx £100 extra tax per… Read more »
rossignol16
People often stay in their homes for decades. In that time they pay off mortgages and end up owning their properties outright. Equity release can help some people to get extra funds out of their property but it is not necessarily straightforward and there is no such thing as a “free lunch” as someone has to pay. People can and do end up living in homes worth… Read more »
Don Smith

Equity Release is a big con. Firstly they charge you about £700 just to set up the plan. They advertise to encourage the lender to spend the pittance on making alteration and improving their home – Just for the sharks to reap the benefit when you depart. Leave it alone.

johnr

Don, you are quite correct in saying avoid Equity Release if you possibly can, in my mothers case unknown at the time to myself the equity that was released actually doubled in 9 years.

ian123
The LibDem policy is the most sensible; up front, honest and transparent, and an extra 1p on income tax will clearly raise a significant amount of money without risking significant adverse effects on the economy. As usual the Tories are trying to find cleaver ways of taking money from people that they hope are too complicated for most people to understand. If they are re-elected we are… Read more »
Don Smith

The only Parliamentary Candidate on the Isle of Wight to support the legalisation of FOX HUNTING is BOB SEELY the CONSERVATIVE candidate DO YOU WANT THIS CRUEL BARBARIC PAST-TIME TO RETURN? Use your vote to retain the BAN.

tr2015

are you using capital letters to indicate that you are shouting?

what part of ‘free vote’ do you not understand?

what makes you so sure there will be more MP’s voting to restore the hunt than to retain the ban?

Suruk the Slightly Miffed

What part of “Seely supports fox hunting and will vote for its return” do *you* not understand.

The fact that it is a free vote is *irrelevant* as he will vote for the return of fox hunting if he is elected.

A vote for Seely is a vote for the return of fox hunting.

tr2015

so you’d rather bankrupt our children and our children’s children with Corbyn would you?

Suruk the Slightly Miffed
You’d rather see the NHS privatised and the police and prison services cut to the point that they can no longer fulfil their core roles, would you? Ask and doctor, nurse, paramedic, midwife, police officer or prison officer about the reality of serving in Tory Britain. Go ahead. Vote Tory, but don’t come crying to me when you call the police or an ambulance and none are… Read more »
Don Smith
Sorrytr2015 – Not shouting, my old fingers get confused:-) I do suspect, like many that Mrs May expects a large majority. This is why Mrs May has selected many Tory candidates to stand for election all over the UK,(including Bob Seely), who do what they are told to do. Bob Seely was selected by central Tory office and Mrs May, and not by the IoW CP. She… Read more »
tr2015
That’ll be a ‘yes’ then, no concern about balancing the books, spending only what we can afford, just swallow the labour guff about throwing borrowed money around like confetti and hang the consequences on our grandchildren. insult me all you like, but face up to the truth. labour have never left this country in anything but debt, then when the conservatives try to reduce that debt they… Read more »
Suruk the Slightly Miffed
And your initial “what part of” epithet to Don Smith wasn’t insulting? You dish it out but don’t like getting it back, eh? The *truth* is that the Tories have had 7 years to put the books right. They failed, and give no indication that another 5 years of “we’re all in it together” austerity will benefit any other than their rich chums. And *do* try to… Read more »
dujardin
Every Post war government has left a deficit. The only difference between Labour and Conservative governments is that Labour have always decreased or at least maintained the deficit during their tenure, while the Conservatives have ALWAYS increased it, they took over a 1k billion pound deficit from Labour in 2009 and have managed to increase it by 90% to 1.9K billion at the same time as cutting… Read more »
Billy Builder

Whereas the Toies have spent the last 40 years (when in power) selling off the family silver to enable them to cut taxes for the rich and reduce support for the poor. And when there is no family silver left to give to the rich, run austerity programmes to hit the poor harder whilst maintaining cuts for the very rich.

tr2015

no dear, I think you’ll find that was Gordon Brown – my phrase for him was ‘at least Dick Turpin had the decency to wear a mask’

Billy Builder

silly me, I thought that it was Maggie Thatcher that sold off British Telecom, British Gas, the Water Boards, the Electricity Boards, closed the mines to import coal from Australia, closed the Shipyards, sold off/closed British Steel, sold off/closed British Layland. And it was John Major who sold off British Rail. The list could go on and on and on

Don Smith

Bob Seely is Mrs May’s puppet. Why else would a civilised person support legalising fox hunting once again
?

Subsistence hunting is acceptable, but hunting (killing) for fun and trophies is disgusting and barbaric.

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